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Posted 06 August 2014 - 12:59 PM

If you look at the stats guys you'll see that the special carbine is the best rifle. Same damage as advanced rifle, better accuracy. The carbine rifle got less damage.

Best rifle in the game is actually the special carbine.

I have LSPD tints for both the carbine and advanced rifle, so I have experience with them too.

Fire rate though?


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 01:06 PM

Npcs can take 20 bullets anyway, and all guns can get 1HK's anyway so who cares?

Hell, that sh*tty Chinese knockoff of the GLORIOUS AK47 could easily beat a special carbine user due to how easy it is to headshot :/

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 01:21 PM

Shame it is so oversized. If it wasn't 40% bulkier than an actual G36 I would use it.
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Posted 06 August 2014 - 01:34 PM

It's great for low level players who have earned some money but don't have the Assault Rifle unlocked.

Good for low lvls yes but unfair to all of us whom have started from the beginning with pistols then uzis. I think it should be a lvl 50 or 60 unlock in all fairness.

 

I used the special quite extensivley but have now reverted back to the normal carbine rifle. I prefer it because (to me) it has better accuracy at ranges that are further than the auto aim.

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 02:10 PM

 

It's great for low level players who have earned some money but don't have the Assault Rifle unlocked.

Good for low lvls yes but unfair to all of us whom have started from the beginning with pistols then uzis. I think it should be a lvl 50 or 60 unlock in all fairness.

 

I used the special quite extensivley but have now reverted back to the normal carbine rifle. I prefer it because (to me) it has better accuracy at ranges that are further than the auto aim.

 

That's exactly why the normal carbine is better, you can auto lock and adjust to the head, or free aim from a longer range than the special carbine. So you just need the heavy sniper, combat mg, carbine, auto shoty and you are done for guns at any range while on foot. Well.. I did use the mini gun last night for the first time in a long time to shoot down two jets that were dogfighting each other and hadn't noticed me on the ground. They flew out from over a hill, low to the ground and were heading out to sea, I strafed the mini gun from the rear chasing jet across to the front one and blew them both up within 2 seconds of each other, it was probably the most epic kill/s I've ever had. I was going to use the carbine but because they came in so low I was able to switch to the mini.


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Posted 06 August 2014 - 03:02 PM


If you look at the stats guys you'll see that the special carbine is the best rifle. Same damage as advanced rifle, better accuracy. The carbine rifle got less damage.

Best rifle in the game is actually the special carbine.

I have LSPD tints for both the carbine and advanced rifle, so I have experience with them too.

Fire rate though?

Thats not as important imo. A few bullets fired is enough to bring the enemy down.

In FA which I play alot atm the special carbine is the best, but in AA it wont make much difference what rifle you use, since you just press a button and the game aims by itself.

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 03:28 PM

There's a whole lot of placebo in this thread....

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Posted 06 August 2014 - 09:36 PM

The noticeably shorter range is what makes it useless for me. Ill give up the power to hit my targets from a little further away as I use silencers on my AR's anyway so my power is already nerfed.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 10:12 AM

 

 

If you look at the stats guys you'll see that the special carbine is the best rifle. Same damage as advanced rifle, better accuracy. The carbine rifle got less damage.

Best rifle in the game is actually the special carbine.

I have LSPD tints for both the carbine and advanced rifle, so I have experience with them too.

Fire rate though?

Thats not as important imo. A few bullets fired is enough to bring the enemy down.

In FA which I play alot atm the special carbine is the best, but in AA it wont make much difference what rifle you use, since you just press a button and the game aims by itself.

 

Yeah but the few bullets will hit the target faster from the advanced.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 10:17 AM Edited by gizmonomono, 08 August 2014 - 10:17 AM.

 

 

 

If you look at the stats guys you'll see that the special carbine is the best rifle. Same damage as advanced rifle, better accuracy. The carbine rifle got less damage.

Best rifle in the game is actually the special carbine.

I have LSPD tints for both the carbine and advanced rifle, so I have experience with them too.

Fire rate though?

Thats not as important imo. A few bullets fired is enough to bring the enemy down.

In FA which I play alot atm the special carbine is the best, but in AA it wont make much difference what rifle you use, since you just press a button and the game aims by itself.

 

Yeah but the few bullets will hit the target faster from the advanced.

 

And that's why the minigun kills you so fast. :)

Also, in AA when going for the headshot, the bullets fly to the side of the head. The faster the fire rate, the faster you get the headshot.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 10:30 AM

Thats because youre not using it the correct way. You should wear a helmet when youre using it.
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Posted 08 August 2014 - 10:33 AM

Thats because youre not using it the correct way. You should wear a helmet when youre using it.

A mustache also helps.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 11:25 AM

This rifle seems to drop players faster than any other rifle. The only downsides are it's not very good to suppress, and it gets outranged by the other rifles (that is considering they are also unsuppressed).

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 12:10 PM

It sounds to me as if Rockstar is out of names already...

 

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 12:19 PM

I've found the normal Carbine to be slightly better overall than the Special. I don't really care about weapon stats either. Looking at stats and seeing how good the weapons are by actually using them in combat are two different things.

In my opinion the Carbine has longer range and is more accurate to the furthest extent of it's range (though it may not be at short range). I always get more headshots with the normal Carbine too...

headshots > damage.
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Posted 08 August 2014 - 12:24 PM

headshots > damage.

Exactly. Doesn't take a lot of bullets to the head to take someone down. So higher rate of fire is a good thing.


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 02:30 PM


If you look at the stats guys you'll see that the special carbine is the best rifle. Same damage as advanced rifle, better accuracy. The carbine rifle got less damage.

Best rifle in the game is actually the special carbine.

I have LSPD tints for both the carbine and advanced rifle, so I have experience with them too.

Fire rate though?
Thats not as important imo. A few bullets fired is enough to bring the enemy down.

In FA which I play alot atm the special carbine is the best, but in AA it wont make much difference what rifle you use, since you just press a button and the game aims by itself.

Oh look a free aim supremacist how nice. You do realize rockstar doesn't like you guys right? In fact they pick on you guys right in the open Inside their game you are playing. Have you heard the righteous slaughter commercials???

Theyre aimed at morons like you.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 02:43 PM

 

 

 

If you look at the stats guys you'll see that the special carbine is the best rifle. Same damage as advanced rifle, better accuracy. The carbine rifle got less damage.

Best rifle in the game is actually the special carbine.

I have LSPD tints for both the carbine and advanced rifle, so I have experience with them too.

Fire rate though?
Thats not as important imo. A few bullets fired is enough to bring the enemy down.

In FA which I play alot atm the special carbine is the best, but in AA it wont make much difference what rifle you use, since you just press a button and the game aims by itself.

Oh look a free aim supremacist how nice. You do realize rockstar doesn't like you guys right? In fact they pick on you guys right in the open Inside their game you are playing. Have you heard the righteous slaughter commercials???

Theyre aimed at morons like you.

 

LOL where did that come from? I'm a moron because I like to aim by myself instead of having the game do it for me? Stop being so lazy and hateful you prick.

 

I played a lot of AA until I realized how much more fun it is in FA, where you don't get shot down for driving past someone in a car or on a bike. Where a random rank 30 with a rifle can't kill you in 2 seconds, where players aim by themselves.

 

However it sucks that the FA lobbies are broken now.


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 03:53 PM

Youre a moron because you said auto aim does all the work and therefore gun selection doesnt matter.

Its a moronic statement. You made it and I called you on it. Nothing more

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 04:35 PM

only thing i halfway like about the special carbine is the sound of it. just give me the reg. Carbine any day.


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 04:48 PM Edited by Dewbauchee88, 08 August 2014 - 04:50 PM.

Youre a moron because you said auto aim does all the work and therefore gun selection doesnt matter.

Its a moronic statement. You made it and I called you on it. Nothing more

 

Auto-Aim does do the vast majority of the work for you, common knowledge there bub; Also he never stated so broadly that gun selection didn't matter, if you read it properly he said it doesn't make much difference what 'Rifle' you use, in which case it doesn't as they are all fairly balanced and similar with a few minor differences here and there. If he was comparing an Assault Rifle to say a Combat MG, then fair enough, but he wasn't. 

 

 

 

 

 

If you look at the stats guys you'll see that the special carbine is the best rifle. Same damage as advanced rifle, better accuracy. The carbine rifle got less damage.

Best rifle in the game is actually the special carbine.

I have LSPD tints for both the carbine and advanced rifle, so I have experience with them too.

Fire rate though?
Thats not as important imo. A few bullets fired is enough to bring the enemy down.

In FA which I play alot atm the special carbine is the best, but in AA it wont make much difference what rifle you use, since you just press a button and the game aims by itself.

Oh look a free aim supremacist how nice. You do realize rockstar doesn't like you guys right? In fact they pick on you guys right in the open Inside their game you are playing. Have you heard the righteous slaughter commercials???

Theyre aimed at morons like you.

 

LOL where did that come from? I'm a moron because I like to aim by myself instead of having the game do it for me? Stop being so lazy and hateful you prick.

 

I played a lot of AA until I realized how much more fun it is in FA, where you don't get shot down for driving past someone in a car or on a bike. Where a random rank 30 with a rifle can't kill you in 2 seconds, where players aim by themselves.

 

However it sucks that the FA lobbies are broken now.

 

 

^ This, I ride motorcycles mainly, so not having some pre-teen jackwad shoot me off while I'm driving by at 100+ MPH is a godsend. 

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 05:15 PM

His post did imply that it doesnt matter. Its totally wrong i cant get kills with an ak at all, im ok with the special carbine unsilenced but with a silencer again I cant kill anyone. Regular carbine silenced im good aa or free. Advanced im pretty good with. Obviously in aa you can just use a combag mg and own any gun.

But to say auto aim negates gun selection is stupid. If you agree with him your stupid too. Theres a reason why everyone isnt running around with combat mgs in aa lobbies. Its because there is a difference.

This is all letting go of the fact that the post I quoted was oozing of a free aim superiority complex.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 05:41 PM

His post did imply that it doesnt matter. Its totally wrong i cant get kills with an ak at all, im ok with the special carbine unsilenced but with a silencer again I cant kill anyone. Regular carbine silenced im good aa or free. Advanced im pretty good with. Obviously in aa you can just use a combag mg and own any gun.

But to say auto aim negates gun selection is stupid. If you agree with him your stupid too. Theres a reason why everyone isnt running around with combat mgs in aa lobbies. Its because there is a difference.

This is all letting go of the fact that the post I quoted was oozing of a free aim superiority complex.

 

No it didn't, he said Rifles specifically (also seeing as its a thread discussing Assault Rifles), not guns in general. He wasn't hinting to Shotguns, Pistols, SMG's etc, he said Rifles. If you can't get kills with an AK, then clearly your 'lock on' skills aren't up to par, it only takes a slight nudge of the analog stick upwards to get a headshot, which can be achieved with pretty much any Assault Rifle in the game; things like higher damage, fire rate, magazine capacity are factors that don't come into the lock on distance (which is the same for all weapons in the same class e.g. Assault Rifles).

 

Also; If I agree with someone I have the same level of intellect as they do? Do you have any idea how childish you sound? Gta4thewin may have some beef with Auto Aim, but it's well placed in my opinion; instead of applying a counter argument like an adult in defence of AA you made yourself look like a colossal asshat by calling him a moron right off the bat, not to mention tarnishing all Free Aim players with the same brush; I'm a Free Aim player, and have no problem with those that use Auto-Aim, it's an aiming PREFERENCE, nothing more. So stop acting like an immature muppet and offer something constructive rather than spewing the same old recycled verbal diarrhoea.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 06:11 PM

It would make no sense to make a weapon that gives a player an unfair advantage and renders all other weapons useless. You're paying for the personal preference. I'm glad that the AK isn't left in the dust and is still a formidable weapon because it looks and sounds great.

the AK is a go too gun for me in FR, along with my heavy sniper.


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Posted 08 August 2014 - 06:42 PM

In AA I see the combat MG an auto shotty, almost always, you don't need 200 rounds when you don't have to actually aim at anything closer than 30 yards or so.

OT: I prefer the Carbine better range, an playing in FA fer awhile helps kills folks outside lock range, which is whut people rely on a lot of the time.

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Posted 08 August 2014 - 07:46 PM

Youre a moron because you said auto aim does all the work and therefore gun selection doesnt matter.

Its a moronic statement. You made it and I called you on it. Nothing more


You're a moron if you think it does matter which rifle you choose when playing AA. Almost all rifles are the same, with small changes to the performance. Advanced rifle, special carbine, bullpup rifle, carbine rifle. All of them will get the job done when you dont need to aim, but can auto lock instead.

Weapon choice matters, what doesnt matter is which of the rifles you choose. Different types of weapons of course work in different situations, but it wont matter what rifle you use.

Maybe you're upset because I said that you dont aim by yourself in AA?




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