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Posted 25 February 2014 - 02:16 AM

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 02:17 AM

 

 

Why do you want communism?

 

 

I don't want to derail this thread, so I will just say that I want communism because it provides us with the upmost possible freedom.

 

Except for private property and creativity.

 

I am of the opinion that Private Property has diddley squat to do with freedom. As for the creativity thing, well that's pure horsesh*t. Excluding the fact that the vast majority of creative artists have socialist/communist leanings, most communes in the world are heavily involved in creative projects and ideas. As previously stated, the USSR can't be called a Communist state with a straight face. State Capitalism would be more accurate, same goes with China. Same goes with the US to a large extent. The creative vacuum in Russia was caused by mass authoritarianism and widespread corruption along with the cult of personality enforced upon the Russian people by Stalin.


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 04:36 AM

FDR, however I did like the previous mention of Macho Camacho, "I know sh*t's bad right now"

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 05:02 AM Edited by Joe Chip, 25 February 2014 - 10:53 AM.

Jimmy Carter. Not for reasons political, but he certainly isn't my least favorite modern president in that way. I drew a picture of him for an art project in high school a few years ago, and since then I've known his facial structure pretty well. He was also in an episode of King Of The Hill. :)


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 05:45 AM

This motherf*cker 

 

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 05:58 AM

favorite US president for me is a 3-way tie.

 

Teddy Roosevelt

Franklin D. Roosevelt

Woodrow Wilson

 

I guess I could say Lincoln, too.

but that's too easy.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 07:33 AM

Bill Clinton was cool.


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 07:59 AM

Coolidge.


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 08:22 AM

James K. Polk, because you f*ckers have already forgotten about him.


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 09:15 AM

 

 

 

Why do you want communism?

 

 

I don't want to derail this thread, so I will just say that I want communism because it provides us with the upmost possible freedom.

 

Except for private property and creativity.

 

 

As I said, I do not want to derail this thread. If you want to discuss communism with me, why don't we do so in the General political discussion thread? :)

 

 

I don't agree with you, but I have to say thank you for reviving my thread.

 

 

 

 

 

Why do you want communism?

 

 

I don't want to derail this thread, so I will just say that I want communism because it provides us with the upmost possible freedom.

 

Except for private property and creativity.

 

I am of the opinion that Private Property has diddley squat to do with freedom. 

 

Can you say that wholeheartedly? Would you feel free if you could have your stuff taken and used for the common good at any time?


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 09:22 AM

 

 

 

 

Why do you want communism?

 

 

I don't want to derail this thread, so I will just say that I want communism because it provides us with the upmost possible freedom.

 

Except for private property and creativity.

 

 

As I said, I do not want to derail this thread. If you want to discuss communism with me, why don't we do so in the General political discussion thread? :)

 

 

I don't agree with you, but I have to say thank you for reviving my thread.

 

 

 

 

 

Why do you want communism?

 

 

I don't want to derail this thread, so I will just say that I want communism because it provides us with the upmost possible freedom.

 

Except for private property and creativity.

 

I am of the opinion that Private Property has diddley squat to do with freedom. 

 

Can you say that wholeheartedly? Would you feel free if you could have your stuff taken and used for the common good at any time?

 

I don't own private property, I own personal property. If I were a billionaire owner of 3000 miles of land which could be used to grow crops or build houses, but is being sat on to increase land value, then I'd be mighty pissed off if that happened. I'd also have probably blown my brains out at my empty life by that point though, so it wouldn't matter.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 09:25 AM

From what I've read, FDR was a very impressive figure, so I guess him.


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 09:29 AM

 

 

 

 

 

Why do you want communism?

 

 

I don't want to derail this thread, so I will just say that I want communism because it provides us with the upmost possible freedom.

 

Except for private property and creativity.

 

 

As I said, I do not want to derail this thread. If you want to discuss communism with me, why don't we do so in the General political discussion thread? :)

 

 

I don't agree with you, but I have to say thank you for reviving my thread.

 

 

 

 

 

Why do you want communism?

 

 

I don't want to derail this thread, so I will just say that I want communism because it provides us with the upmost possible freedom.

 

Except for private property and creativity.

 

I am of the opinion that Private Property has diddley squat to do with freedom. 

 

Can you say that wholeheartedly? Would you feel free if you could have your stuff taken and used for the common good at any time?

 

I don't own private property, I own personal property. If I were a billionaire owner of 3000 miles of land which could be used to grow crops or build houses, but is being sat on to increase land value, then I'd be mighty pissed off if that happened. I'd also have probably blown my brains out at my empty life by that point though, so it wouldn't matter.

 

 

I don't know. I quite like my metal rectangle.


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 09:43 AM

Ronald Reagan.

 

He survived the great depression. He did real, backbreaking work before doing the Hollywood scene.

 

He was a true American Hero.

 

Bill clinton, on the other hand, sucks big time. The man is a tit. A brilliant example of a brainless career politician.


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 10:39 AM

Ronald Reagan.
 
He survived the great depression. He did real, backbreaking work before doing the Hollywood scene.
 
He was a true American Hero.
 
Bill clinton, on the other hand, sucks big time. The man is a tit. A brilliant example of a brainless career politician.


Aren't I right in saying they Clinton presided over one of the longest periods of steady US economic growth in modern history?

I find it very hard to think of anything he bungled aside from the intervention in Somalia. He's certainly one of the best recent presidents IMO
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Posted 25 February 2014 - 10:49 AM

Arnold Schwarzeneggar.

 

Oh wait.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 10:56 AM

Concerning Reagan, I figured we needed a modern day equivalent to the question posed by the Disney Version of The Hunchback of Notre-Dame, who is the monster and who is the man?

 

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 11:00 AM

 

Ronald Reagan.
 
He survived the great depression. He did real, backbreaking work before doing the Hollywood scene.
 
He was a true American Hero.
 
Bill clinton, on the other hand, sucks big time. The man is a tit. A brilliant example of a brainless career politician.


Aren't I right in saying they Clinton presided over one of the longest periods of steady US economic growth in modern history?

 

 

Possibly. Reagan (not saying I like the guy) had a higher average GDP growth per year, though. 

 

8.812857% compared to 6.575714%


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 11:03 AM

 

 

Ronald Reagan.
 
He survived the great depression. He did real, backbreaking work before doing the Hollywood scene.
 
He was a true American Hero.
 
Bill clinton, on the other hand, sucks big time. The man is a tit. A brilliant example of a brainless career politician.


Aren't I right in saying they Clinton presided over one of the longest periods of steady US economic growth in modern history?

 

 

Possibly. Reagan (not saying I like the guy) had a higher average GDP growth per year, though. 

 

8.812857% compared to 6.575714%

 

The Reagan also massively increased government spending, taxes, federal income etc etc


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 11:10 AM


 


 

Ronald Reagan.
 
He survived the great depression. He did real, backbreaking work before doing the Hollywood scene.
 
He was a true American Hero.
 
Bill clinton, on the other hand, sucks big time. The man is a tit. A brilliant example of a brainless career politician.

Aren't I right in saying they Clinton presided over one of the longest periods of steady US economic growth in modern history?

 
 
Possibly. Reagan (not saying I like the guy) had a higher average GDP growth per year, though. 
 
8.812857% compared to 6.575714%
 
The Reagan also massively increased government spending, taxes, federal income etc etc

If you look at the Barro misery index (that is the conventional misery index with GDP factored in) they're very evenly matched. But as above really, the long-term effects of Clinton's presidency are arguably better.
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Posted 25 February 2014 - 11:11 AM Edited by Vlynor, 25 February 2014 - 11:12 AM.

 

 

 

Ronald Reagan.
 
He survived the great depression. He did real, backbreaking work before doing the Hollywood scene.
 
He was a true American Hero.
 
Bill clinton, on the other hand, sucks big time. The man is a tit. A brilliant example of a brainless career politician.


Aren't I right in saying they Clinton presided over one of the longest periods of steady US economic growth in modern history?

 

 

Possibly. Reagan (not saying I like the guy) had a higher average GDP growth per year, though. 

 

8.812857% compared to 6.575714%

 

The Reagan also massively increased government spending, taxes, federal income etc etc

 

Yeah. Never said I liked the guy, just thought I'd put it out there.

 

 

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 12:21 PM

Franklin Delaware Roosevelt. Revived the economy after the Wall Street Crash, although his new deal was actually kinda starting to falter before war broke out. He also navigated the War, did a good enough job to get elected not 2, not 3 but 4 times. There are blots on his record like the treatment of Japanese-Americans in WWII which can be likened to the Bush administration's treatment of those of Middle-Eastern descent and practising Muslims, except FDR did it in time of war, a true war, GWB used "the war on terror" which is not a real war, no formal declaration was made with the Joint Chiefs of staff, they just used the word "war" as an emotive buzzword, the word "terrorism" has also become this way. But I digress. My personal favourite is FDR because he navigated the USA through 2 crises (yes he might not have survived to see the VERY end of WWII but he still navigated the US through it) He had the war-time ruthlessness of Churchill but the out-of-wartime leadership that Churchill lacked.

 

However, if i could go back in time and meet any president while in office, it would be Clinton.

 

I don't really know much of the US Politics, but I think his name is Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Delaware is an American state.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 12:46 PM

 

 

 

 

 

Why do you want communism?

 

 

I don't want to derail this thread, so I will just say that I want communism because it provides us with the upmost possible freedom.

 

Except for private property and creativity.

 

 

As I said, I do not want to derail this thread. If you want to discuss communism with me, why don't we do so in the General political discussion thread? :)

 

 

I don't agree with you, but I have to say thank you for reviving my thread.

 

 

 

 

 

Why do you want communism?

 

 

I don't want to derail this thread, so I will just say that I want communism because it provides us with the upmost possible freedom.

 

Except for private property and creativity.

 

I am of the opinion that Private Property has diddley squat to do with freedom. 

 

Can you say that wholeheartedly? Would you feel free if you could have your stuff taken and used for the common good at any time?

 

I don't own private property, I own personal property. If I were a billionaire owner of 3000 miles of land which could be used to grow crops or build houses, but is being sat on to increase land value, then I'd be mighty pissed off if that happened. I'd also have probably blown my brains out at my empty life by that point though, so it wouldn't matter.

 

Why would you be okay with the government taking your personal property away?


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 01:08 PM

Private property and personal property aren't the same thing.
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Posted 25 February 2014 - 01:16 PM

Private property and personal property aren't the same thing.

Correct, but hardcore commies see private and personal property as the same thing.


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 01:24 PM

Private property and personal property aren't the same thing.

 

Not exactly. They're fairly similar, though.

 

http://www.princeton...l_property.html


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 01:26 PM


Private property and personal property aren't the same thing.

Correct, but hardcore commies see private and personal property as the same thing.
In some Communist theories, yes. But that's simply false equivalence because we aren't discussing a specific Communist theory but property rights.

And we shouldn't he discussing either because this is a thread about US presidents.
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Posted 25 February 2014 - 01:53 PM Edited by AceKingston, 25 February 2014 - 01:54 PM.

Ronald Reagan for his economic reforms and Lincoln for abolishing slavery.  FDR was impressive during WW2 as well.

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 01:58 PM

Lincoln for abolishing slavery.

 

This would be great if it were true, but it's not. The Emancipation Proclamation made slavery illegal in the South (which was a morale boost, more than anything). Slavery didn't end in the United States until December 6/18 of 1865, after Lincoln's assassination.


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 04:25 PM

 

Lincoln for abolishing slavery.

 

This would be great if it were true, but it's not. The Emancipation Proclamation made slavery illegal in the South (which was a morale boost, more than anything). Slavery didn't end in the United States until December 6/18 of 1865, after Lincoln's assassination.

 

John Wilkes Booth, a true American hero!





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