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Posted 22 February 2014 - 11:56 AM

What are your thoughts, honestly?
I got accused of being gay at the pub for talking about it. But I want to see a.future where a photo of a Ford owner is posted with two guys in bed and people say

"I don't get it"


What are your thoughts, I'm drunk haha, might as well ask.

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 12:17 PM

I don't really care if a guy is gay or not while they're not putting the moves on me or putting the moves on each other around me to the point where it's seriously over the top.

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 12:19 PM Edited by Justin.., 22 February 2014 - 12:22 PM.

I don't have a problem with it. What I have a problem with is people who question it. Live and let live for f*ck sake.

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 12:27 PM

I think people think about it way too much and spend way to much time and effort worrying about it
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Posted 22 February 2014 - 12:29 PM

People can be gay if they want to be I don't care, but I hate people who are against it. 

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 12:32 PM

My most hated opinion is that I believe that for SOME(A MINORITY!) homosexuality is a choice

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 12:51 PM

I as a conservative have nothing against if people are allowed to be gay and to show it in public. I used to be friends with two lesbians and one queer. But I'm against gay marriage and gay adoption of children.
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Posted 22 February 2014 - 12:51 PM

Homosexuality is a non-issue made into an issue by straight (and probably sometimes gay) people.

 

What would the response be if this was a topic about a certain race, gender or religion? It would be shot down for being prejudice in the first instance, but talking about homosexuality seems to be classed as an issue we need to talk about and classify with our own opinions and issues, which goes back to my original point above.

 

Anyone who is against something for a certain group is discriminating, no matter what validation you think you can blanket it with.

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 12:59 PM

I don't understand why people consider sexual orientation to be the most important aspect of a person. It isn't, unless you want to f*ck children. Live and let live. No one should care.

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 12:59 PM

I as a conservative have nothing against if people are allowed to be gay and to show it in public. I used to be friends with two lesbians and one queer. But I'm against gay marriage and gay adoption of children.

Why?


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 01:01 PM

Non-issue for me, but what is an issue is how it's made an issue. Gay people should be left alone and not stigmatised, personally I'll never understand it, and I dislike extrovertly gay people who push their sexuality in your face.  

 

But it's wrong when a footballer announces he is gay,and it makes headlines.

 

Watch this video, because I think this guy put's it perfectly . 

 

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 01:05 PM Edited by epoxi, 22 February 2014 - 01:06 PM.

a Ford owner is posted with two guys in bed

 

Wait, what?

 

Anyway, there is no actual substantial argument anyone can make against homosexuality, all the reasons people give against it are purely a result of their culture/upbringing.

 

The only disadvantage I see to being homosexual is being prejudiced against, and that's not the fault of the homosexual person, it's the fault of the people around them for not being rational and secure about themselves.

 

On a light-hearted note: I am pro gay marriage because it's only fair that gay people should suffer the miseries of a civil partnership like everyone else!

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 01:33 PM

But I'm against gay marriage and gay adoption of children.

I'd presume you were against homosexuality in general with the above quote and the use of the word "queer".

I've got nothing against homosexuality. I've got quite a few gay friends (female & male) and they're all cool people who I get along with. I honestly don't see why some people are against homosexuals. I'm sure any of you (straight or gay) who have been to a gay bar will agree that gay people are more fun to party with and hang out with. Gay people are usually better friends, in my experience, too.

I'm not saying I've never made a joke about homosexuals in the past. Most people end up joking about homosexuality and what not in life, but that doesn't mean you have to go over the top and act like a dick - I even joke about it with my gay friends and they tend to joke about being straight!

And in case you're an idiot and didn't read properly, yes, I'm straight myself.
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Posted 22 February 2014 - 01:36 PM

Ford owner .


That right there is a clear indication of being in the closet.
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Posted 22 February 2014 - 01:43 PM

 

a Ford owner is posted with two guys in bed

 

Wait, what?

 

I think it's some weird southern hemisphere joke, like that "Nekk minnit" thing. They have a lot of this bizarre quirky sh*t. Being all on their own down their, it does stuff to their brains.

 

Homosexuality isn't an issue for me, it shouldn't be an issue for anyone. It's just two people loving each other, and they should be entitled to the same marriage rights and the same adoption rights as everyone else. 

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 01:43 PM

Total non-issue IMO, though I've never understood what people are actually complaining about when they talk about gay people who are "in your face" about their sexuality. I presume it must be based on a false image created by media exposure because in all my years I've never really seen it in the real world. Personally I think it's just an excuse for people to complain about a lifestyle they disagree with in a way that implies it isn't just their own opinion and therefore has some kind of merit.
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Posted 22 February 2014 - 03:23 PM

I don't like the "gay culture", as in overly camp people.

However, I honestly couldn't care less what another guy does with his dick, as long as no one's hurt, why would I?


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 03:25 PM

But I'm against gay marriage and gay adoption of children.

I'd presume you were against homosexuality in general with the above quote and the use of the word "queer".

If the word queer has a negative meaning I take it back. Didn't know this. English is not my mother tongue.

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 03:28 PM

I don't really care if a guy is gay or not while they're not putting the moves on me or putting the moves on each other around me to the point where it's seriously over the top.

this and I don't care what others think about me because i don't think about them at all.


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 03:34 PM

The current debate on homosexuality is a non issue concocted by bigots who hate gays and anyone who is in a relationship, where it is not woman-man.

 

But yeah gays should not be ostracized by the world for being gay.


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 03:41 PM Edited by Fireman, 22 February 2014 - 03:44 PM.

The problem I have with it is that some people say they were born gay, that's so crazy. Or the "I was born in another body"-bullsh*t as if it's isn't a choice you make.

 

Because it is a choice, you can even switch back to being straight or bisexual afterwards. Unless you're going for the "but they aren't REAL gays, HUPADURPAUDHARUPDAPURUP".


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 03:47 PM

The problem I have with it is that some people say they were born gay, that's so crazy. Or the "I was born in another body"-bullsh*t as if it's isn't a choice you make.

 

Because it is a choice, you can even switch back to being straight or bisexual afterwards. Unless you're going for the "but they aren't REAL gays, HUPADURPAUDHARUPDAPURUP".

People can be born gay. but its still think its a choice, I'm straight because that's my choice and if I wanted to, I could choose to be gay. But if someone grows up attracted to the same sex they were born gay.

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 04:05 PM

The problem I have with it is that some people say they were born gay, that's so crazy. Or the "I was born in another body"-bullsh*t as if it's isn't a choice you make.

 

Because it is a choice, you can even switch back to being straight or bisexual afterwards. Unless you're going for the "but they aren't REAL gays, HUPADURPAUDHARUPDAPURUP".

I disagree, surely if you have find yourself attracted to a man, you already have that in you.

It's not like a straight guy who one day decides he's gonna be gay and starts having sex with men. Straight people aren't attracted to other men.

I will agree, it might be a choice to act upon these tendencies.

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 04:07 PM Edited by Waldie, 22 February 2014 - 04:13 PM.

1. A persons sexual orientation really isn't of any interest to me.

2. I would disagree with someone who said "homosexuality is unnatural" but considering how much of a minority they are, I'd also disagree with anyone claimed it was "normal".

3. Simply being gay and getting together with other gays doesn't justify a parade.

4. Lesbians are hot (provided they are good looking of course). Great fapping material.

5. I find the thought of guys f*cking and sucking each other off rather disgusting quite frankly. But then I find a lot of things people do to be disgusting. I think licking arseholes is disgusting but that doesn't mean I hate people that do it.

6. I have no objection to gay marriage. I don't think I have a problem with them adopting kids.

7. I have difficulty understanding those who can appear to be straight and be in long term hetero relationships only to one day come out as "gay". Surely bisexual would be more accurate?

8. I have no hatred towards homosexuals, yet I have no problem using words like queer, dyke and fa**ot. As far as I'm concerned, they are just words and it's the context that's important. If you're offended by them then that's your problem, not mine.


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 04:17 PM

Queer isn't an offensive word.


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 04:26 PM

The problem I have with it is that some people say they were born gay, that's so crazy. Or the "I was born in another body"-bullsh*t as if it's isn't a choice you make.

 

Because it is a choice, you can even switch back to being straight or bisexual afterwards. Unless you're going for the "but they aren't REAL gays, HUPADURPAUDHARUPDAPURUP".

I don't know if it is a matter of being born that way, but homosexuals only feel attracted to their own sex much like heterosexuals feel attracted to the opposite sex. The causes for their orientation are irrelevant. They can't choose to be attracted to the opposite sex the same way you can't choose to be gay.

 

I also don't think that it matters if sexual orientation is a choice. As a comparison, monogamy is a choice but some people choose to be polygamous and they shouldn't be faulted for that. It's something consenting adults choose to partake in. Homosexuals should be treated as people with differing—but all the while valid—opinions, nothing more.

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 04:35 PM

I'm a bisexual 20 year-old who is attracted to people of all ages, from children to the elderly. Does that make me a pedophile? I suppose that may be the correct definition, but in my eyes, I just don't have any boundaries. Difference being, I acknowledge the fact that sleeping with somebody underage is a terrible act, and would never act on that specific sexual interest. I just happen to find them equally as sexually arousing as say, somebody of my own age. Obviously I have preferences when it comes to sexuality, on the whole I prefer chubbier people over slimmer people, certain hair colours over others, and so forth. I think I slightly prefer men over women, but by no means does that make me exclusively homosexual.

 

Oh, and if anyone says sexuality is a choice, you are an idiot. I know a lesbian who's sister told her she simply hasn't found the right man yet. How do you know you're not sexually attracted to animals, statues, or even a piece of f*cking paper? You just know. I discovered I liked men as well as women when I was fourteen. I decided to watch gay porn for a change, and found that it very much turned me on.

 

For the people who think sexuality is a choice, why don't you try watching gay porn? Don't like it? Keep watching, surely you will find a certain video that arouses you? Do I hear you saying no? The same applies for homosexuals. Straight porn doesn't appeal to gay men for instance, and the thought of sleeping with a woman is just as alien as a heterosexual man trying to enjoy the thought of sleeping with another man.

 

Open your eyes.

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 04:39 PM


The problem I have with it is that some people say they were born gay, that's so crazy. Or the "I was born in another body"-bullsh*t as if it's isn't a choice you make.
 
Because it is a choice, you can even switch back to being straight or bisexual afterwards. Unless you're going for the "but they aren't REAL gays, HUPADURPAUDHARUPDAPURUP".

I disagree, surely if you have find yourself attracted to a man, you already have that in you.
It's not like a straight guy who one day decides he's gonna be gay and starts having sex with men. Straight people aren't attracted to other men.
I will agree, it might be a choice to act upon these tendencies.
There's nothing to suggest any kind of sexual attraction is voluntary. Of course, acting on that attraction is a completely voluntary decision but the actual attraction, that's subconscious. Plenty of genetic indicators and markers involved.

It's also worth making the distinction between sexusl arousal and sexual attraction. Something can be sexually arousing without being attractive. Best example of this is amongst rape victims; the fact they may be (in fact are quite likely) to be aroused during the act doesn't mean that they enjoy it or find it attractive.

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Posted 22 February 2014 - 05:04 PM

I'm a bisexual 20 year-old who is attracted to people of all ages, from children to the elderly. Does that make me a pedophile? I suppose that may be the correct definition, but in my eyes, I just don't have any boundaries. Difference being, I acknowledge the fact that sleeping with somebody underage is a terrible act, and would never act on that specific sexual interest. I just happen to find them equally as sexually arousing as say, somebody of my own age. Obviously I have preferences when it comes to sexuality, on the whole I prefer chubbier people over slimmer people, certain hair colours over others, and so forth. I think I slightly prefer men over women, but by no means does that make me exclusively homosexual.

 

Oh, and if anyone says sexuality is a choice, you are an idiot. I know a lesbian who's sister told her she simply hasn't found the right man yet. How do you know you're not sexually attracted to animals, statues, or even a piece of f*cking paper? You just know. I discovered I liked men as well as women when I was fourteen. I decided to watch gay porn for a change, and found that it very much turned me on.

 

For the people who think sexuality is a choice, why don't you try watching gay porn? Don't like it? Keep watching, surely you will find a certain video that arouses you? Do I hear you saying no? The same applies for homosexuals. Straight porn doesn't appeal to gay men for instance, and the thought of sleeping with a woman is just as alien as a heterosexual man trying to enjoy the thought of sleeping with another man.

 

Open your eyes.

Now that I think about it I might just be bisexual, I thought being gay was a choice because I'm attracted to everyone and could choose to be gay if I wanted to, I don't even know how long i've been like that but I thought it was normal for everyone.


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 05:12 PM

I'm a bisexual 20 year-old who is attracted to people of all ages, from children to the elderly. Does that make me a pedophile? I suppose that may be the correct definition, but in my eyes, I just don't have any boundaries.

No, I suspect that you're just a sex deprived creep.

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