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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:18 PM Edited by F4L?, 21 February 2014 - 07:28 AM.

Please, no comedians in here guys, not the place for it.

My girlfriend found out today from another girl (Call her Jen) who is friends with the guy (Jack) that did it that somewhere on the internet, there is a video of her being f*cked from two years back (She was underage at the time making it child porn), Jen said that Jack took it down, but he probably still has the video on his computer, we have no idea how many people have seen it, or of Jen is telling the truth.
My gf was paralytically drunk and was passed out and some guy took advantage of her two back, she couldn't say no, according to this girl who saw parts of the video, she said that my girlfriend was clearly unconscious, she was just lying there not moving and this guy just decided to have his way with her, then put her in his car afterwards and dumped her in a carpark somewhere where she came to her sense some time later and called an ambulance, f*cking maggot.

My girlfriend said she doesn't really want to do anything about it because if she does she'd need to go to her parents for financial support for lawyers and such, and she doesn't want them to know. The problem is that this guy started going to the same Uni as her now, so she has seen him like daily, and it's really, really, really bugging her, you know, seeing your f*cking rapist everyday, knowing he still has the video, as if you wouldn't be bothered by it (The video isn't going around btw)

What should she do? She said the guy is fairly small and that I could easily beat him to death, and as much as I want to, it seems like a bad idea haha, I don't need an assault charge on my record, should she go to the police? She really just wants the video to be gone forever, do you think the cops could seize his computer? I mean she was under the age of 18 (Maybe under 17 at the time) at the time so it's actually child pornography, plus she was raped.

What is the best course of action here?
 


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:38 PM

I think she should take the legal way and report it to the police, even if she doesn't go through a trial and at all.

In any case you shouldn't beat, harass or threaten him as you could be the harmed one.

At least that's how I see it.
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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:39 PM

Go to the police - the fact that it can be classed as child pornography, and that the person still has the video, means they're in possession of child pornography, not just a charge of rape (as serious as that is).

 

Trying to do anything yourself will not help the situation in any way - don't act on your emotions. 

 

The video has a higher chance of being removed without spreading if you tell the police, as trying to do something yourself, they may try to spread the video as revenge. 

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:42 PM Edited by The Odyssey, 20 February 2014 - 12:42 PM.

Jesus.

First off, rape is a crime. So is child pornography, and as far as I'm concerned, filming porn without permission. (Which is pretty much the same as rape, but whatever. )

Secondly, I know a guy who did that. I'm not naming anyone. But he did what "Jack" did, besides the filming part. Unfortunately I have no idea what his punishment was, all I know is that he's walking free. There's a lot more I know about this story, but I choose not to express it.

I did a bit of research and apparently in Australia you can get a sentence of up to 10 years for rape. Getting cops involved would probably have a good effect, but then again you should really discuss with your girlfriend about it. Have a long discussion, and come to a decison. Then take action. (Or not)
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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:43 PM

I don't support rape in any shape or form and I can't stand the fact people are so un-human to do something like that, but that aside, maybe she needs to stop f*cking drinking.. at all. If she was that ''partially'' drunk that she couldn've even said no, then she might wanna question her own actions too.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:45 PM

I don't support rape in any shape or form and I can't stand the fact people are so un-human to do something like that, but that aside, maybe she needs to stop f*cking drinking.. at all. If she was that ''partially'' drunk that she couldn've even said no, then she might wanna question her own actions too.

Yes, I see what you're saying, this was something like 4 years ago, she was young, and stupid, and was being fed drinks by a guy...


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:47 PM

Have you or your girlfriend actually seen the video? The first paragraph was a little unclear to me, but it sounds like neither of you have seen it. I'd say first thing you need to do is establish whether or not it exists and what the content of it is. You don't want to start accusing people when you don't know all the facts. But if the video exists and she was under age, regardless of whether it was or wasn't rape, then I'd say go to the police and try get it removed.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:52 PM Edited by theadmiral, 20 February 2014 - 12:54 PM.

There is probably a statute of limitations on this, and reporting it 4 years later is not going to go well for her credibility. Just let it be, don't get involved, and don't let yourself be manipulated into doing something stupid. Let her call the cops to get the video removed if it does exist.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:58 PM Edited by F4L?, 20 February 2014 - 12:59 PM.

Have you or your girlfriend actually seen the video? The first paragraph was a little unclear to me, but it sounds like neither of you have seen it. I'd say first thing you need to do is establish whether or not it exists and what the content of it is. You don't want to start accusing people when you don't know all the facts. But if the video exists and she was under age, regardless of whether it was or wasn't rape, then I'd say go to the police and try get it removed.

Nah well this girl Jen who my friend knows said she had the link for the video sent to her and this guy told her what it was, the girl said she never clicked the link though, and supposedly the guy deleted it after a some backlash from a few people.

Also my gf just told me, it was two years ago when it happened, not long before she was 18.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:04 PM Edited by Vlynor, 20 February 2014 - 01:08 PM.

For it to be child pornography, I believe she has to have been under the age of consent, although I could be wrong. It might be the age of majority. Check your laws. Don't touch the guy. If you're going to do anything, report it to police. If you and/or your girlfriend haven't actually seen the video and you don't have evidence of it, you probably won't be taken seriously.

 

 

 

filming porn without permission. (Which is pretty much the same as rape, but whatever. )

 

What? No. It's not pretty much the same. If you want to say it's wrong, sure, I agree. But it's nowhere near the same thing as rape.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:07 PM Edited by Killerdude8, 21 February 2014 - 02:15 PM.

Take the whole thing to court, Don't go and beat his ass, you may end up getting Charged yourself.

 

 

Child Pornography + Rape + Statutory Rape = Being bubba's bitch in the big house.

 

 

But for real, No ass beatings, It could end worse for you.

 

 

EDIT: Oh, It all happened 2 years ago? Well, there isn't much you can do.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:11 PM

What is this?

 

Since when do you get punished if you happen to beat someone up in college.

 

You might get a 5-day suspension.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:14 PM

That's f*cked up.

 

Go to the police and inform them let him rot in prison and get raped.

 

But before you do that make sure that he does not know about it so that when the cops come knocking he would not have time to delete it to try and free himself.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:20 PM

What is this?

 

Since when do you get punished if you happen to beat someone up in college.

 

You might get a 5-day suspension.

 

Most college students are old enough to be charged as an adult for assault. 

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:22 PM

For it to be child pornography, I believe she has to have been under the age of consent, although I could be wrong. It might be the age of majority. Check your laws. Don't touch the guy. If you're going to do anything, report it to police. If you and/or your girlfriend haven't actually seen the video and you don't have evidence of it, you probably won't be taken seriously.
 

 
 
filming porn without permission. (Which is pretty much the same as rape, but whatever. )[/size]

 
What? No. It's not pretty much the same. If you want to say it's wrong, sure, I agree. But it's nowhere near the same thing as rape.
Well don't you need permission to film pornography? If you don't agree with it, then isn't filming porn against your will technically rape?

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:24 PM Edited by Vlynor, 20 February 2014 - 01:24 PM.

 

For it to be child pornography, I believe she has to have been under the age of consent, although I could be wrong. It might be the age of majority. Check your laws. Don't touch the guy. If you're going to do anything, report it to police. If you and/or your girlfriend haven't actually seen the video and you don't have evidence of it, you probably won't be taken seriously.
 

 
 
filming porn without permission. (Which is pretty much the same as rape, but whatever. )[/size]

 
What? No. It's not pretty much the same. If you want to say it's wrong, sure, I agree. But it's nowhere near the same thing as rape.
Well don't you need permission to film pornography? If you don't agree with it, then isn't filming porn against your will technically rape?

 

 

Well, no. You can't compare them. Rape leaves people traumatized, if you film someone without them knowing but you're having consenting sex, and don't distribute it (if we're talking distribution, we might be close.) you can't compare that to rape at all.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:29 PM Edited by stu, 20 February 2014 - 01:29 PM.

Nah well this girl Jen who my friend knows said she had the link for the video sent to her and this guy told her what it was, the girl said she never clicked the link though, and supposedly the guy deleted it after a some backlash from a few people.

 

It sounds to me like you're basing this whole thing on what one person heard from another person, who themselves heard it from someone else. Like I said you need to actually establish the facts yourself, you can't go to the police or beat someone up just based on gossip or because you think they've done something wrong. 

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:39 PM Edited by TEoS, 20 February 2014 - 01:40 PM.

As your lawyer, I would highly advise you not seek legal counsel on an internet based video game forum that comprises largely of 13-25 year olds from different nations around the world who will be unable to give you any serious, legitimate advice. Instead I'd advise calling up your local police department and directing your questions there, if you're at all serious and not attention baiting.

 

In my expert opinion though, it doesn't sound like much of a case. Heard it from a friend of a friend about something that happened 2 years ago. Shaky grounds.

 

(seems a bit inappropriate to call it a video of her "being f*cked" if she is someone you care about)

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:50 PM

 

Nah well this girl Jen who my friend knows said she had the link for the video sent to her and this guy told her what it was, the girl said she never clicked the link though, and supposedly the guy deleted it after a some backlash from a few people.

 

It sounds to me like you're basing this whole thing on what one person heard from another person, who themselves heard it from someone else. Like I said you need to actually establish the facts yourself, you can't go to the police or beat someone up just based on gossip or because you think they've done something wrong. 

 

That's true, that's true. I'm not going to beat anyone up, but he did still rape her, regardless of the video, that much is true, she said she'd gotten over that though, it's just this news of the video seems to really have shaken her up again and brought back bad memories and she is really concerned that other people have seen it. The girl, Jen, who told her said that the video was sent to her some two years ago, and she assumed my girlfriend already knew of it, hence not saying anything until now.

 

 

As your lawyer, I would highly advise you not seek legal counsel on an internet based video game forum that comprises largely of 13-25 year olds from different nations around the world who will be unable to give you any serious, legitimate advice. Instead I'd advise calling up your local police department and directing your questions there, if you're at all serious and not attention baiting.

 

In my expert opinion though, it doesn't sound like much of a case. Heard it from a friend of a friend about something that happened 2 years ago. Shaky grounds.

 

(seems a bit inappropriate to call it a video of her "being f*cked" if she is someone you care about)

Look, there are definitely some smart people here, as well as idiots, it's good to get perspectives from everyone.

But anyway, she got raped, that much she is sure of, she was unaware of her being filmed in the process though, and that is what is concerning her, you're right though, it might not even exist. And tbh, I'm talking about her being raped here, I don't think it's really inappropriate to describe it like that, because that's basically what happened, it describes it better than "Had sex with" because she didn't, she was all but unconscious.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:59 PM

steal the pc and find the evidence, and then anonymously tip the cops about it. If not for rape, I'm certain he could be pinned for underage pornography?


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 02:25 PM Edited by TEoS, 20 February 2014 - 02:26 PM.


 

As your lawyer, I would highly advise you not seek legal counsel on an internet based video game forum that comprises largely of 13-25 year olds from different nations around the world who will be unable to give you any serious, legitimate advice. Instead I'd advise calling up your local police department and directing your questions there, if you're at all serious and not attention baiting.

 

In my expert opinion though, it doesn't sound like much of a case. Heard it from a friend of a friend about something that happened 2 years ago. Shaky grounds.

 

(seems a bit inappropriate to call it a video of her "being f*cked" if she is someone you care about)

Look, there are definitely some smart people here, as well as idiots, it's good to get perspectives from everyone.

But anyway, she got raped, that much she is sure of, she was unaware of her being filmed in the process though, and that is what is concerning her, you're right though, it might not even exist. And tbh, I'm talking about her being raped here, I don't think it's really inappropriate to describe it like that, because that's basically what happened, it describes it better than "Had sex with" because she didn't, she was all but unconscious.

 

Generally, the terms "sexually assaulted" or just "assaulted" would be the more respectful way of wording it. Would you like your girlfriend to hear you referring to it as "being f*cked?" 

"Wait, there's a video of you being f*cked?" sounds pretty crass. "Wait, there's a video of your sexual assault?" displays a mite of tact in towards the sensitive nature of the subject.

 

You are, of course, free to pursue whatever course of action you'd like. I was just saying that the only real ways to know what your (legal) options are by either getting in contact with the police or consulting with a lawyer. I know you stated it is outside of your financial means to hire one, but there are a few websites out there where you can ask questions to lawyers for free.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 02:34 PM

You seem pretty nonchalant considering you just found out your girlfriend was supposedly raped.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 03:06 PM

Go to the police there, as far as I know there is no statue of limitations for sex crimes against children. Don't do anything yourself. You do not need to LAN our self in prison freaks like him usually don't make it out of prison anyway becase of what the guy did.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 06:08 PM Edited by RentedH1tm4nBen, 20 February 2014 - 06:08 PM.

Go to the police, the punk will get a couple years considering he recorded raping an under age girl plus you said that the Jack guy toke the video down, does he have it? You even have proof then.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 06:08 PM

Go to the police, so the guy's life is ruined. That's what he deserves the least.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 07:23 PM Edited by lol232, 20 February 2014 - 07:41 PM.

I'd definitely beat his ass to the pulp, reporting it to the police is a better option, but that's just me, I'm calm, but if something like this happens I become very, very aggressive.
I don't care if I get myself charged, I would beat him to a pulp (I have some history with beating some peoples' ass for messing around with me).
I suggest you to beat his ass, please do it for me, and I'm not even joking.

P.S. After this thing gets solved, tell us (at least tell me) what happened. :p

E: Destroy his laptop, and just kick his ass a bit, make sure that he shouldn't f*ck with you.
But yeah, destroy his laptop, DO IT, f*ggot!

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 07:37 PM

I'd just talk to your girlfriend about it, it happened a while ago, and as understandable as anger is on your part, it will ultimately achieve nothing, that's not to say doing nothing is the right course of action to take, but as TeoS wisely pointed out, there are many ways of speaking to professionals on this touchy subject, who won't charge and will know a whole lot more than your average GTA gamer. 

I hope all works out well, and that scum get's what is coming to him, best of luck. 


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 07:52 PM Edited by El_Diablo, 20 February 2014 - 08:00 PM.

honestly?

 

let it go.

move on with both of your lives.

 

if you pursue this legally, then you're just going to load up baggage for her to carry around for the rest of her life.

these cases are extremely difficult to win (even with purported video evidence) and the only guarantee you'll get from the whole process is that her name and her reputation and her story will be dragged through the mud; there's no guarantee that anything tangible will come from a criminal suit that could benefit your girlfriend. maybe some feelings of vengeance if the guy received jail time (highly unlikely given that time has passed since the incident and was not reported in the immediate aftermath when a Rape Kit could have been administered), but that's about it.

 

what does she hope to accomplish?

move on. you only control your future when you learn to put the past down and just walk forwards.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 07:56 PM

http://www.legaladvice.com/

 

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 08:04 PM

As your lawyer, I would highly advise you not seek legal counsel on an internet based video game forum that comprises largely of 13-25 year olds from different nations around the world who will be unable to give you any serious, legitimate advice. Instead I'd advise calling up your local police department and directing your questions there, if you're at all serious and not attention baiting.

 

In my expert opinion though, it doesn't sound like much of a case. Heard it from a friend of a friend about something that happened 2 years ago. Shaky grounds.

 

(seems a bit inappropriate to call it a video of her "being f*cked" if she is someone you care about)

 

^This. Also, just curious but did your girlfriend give you permission to tell a bunch of people on a forum board that she was raped? 

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