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#1

Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:22 AM Edited by cp1dell, 19 February 2014 - 08:23 AM.

I don't know how to describe it, but since GTA V's release, to me, the weapons don't have much...I don't know, weight?

 

I don't know if it's the textures, the sounds, or what, but they all feel pretty much the same. By default, they're completely gray. Even with the color tints the rest of the weapon is pretty bland. Compared to IV or even Max Payne 3 the weapons don't seem that detailed this time around. Or maybe they do, I'm not sure.

 

Or it could be the sounds. The firing, the reloading sounds, the cocking clicks - all those seem "off?"

 

I don't know, I just can't describe it but I was hoping someone else would have a similar idea or feeling. I mean when playing IV I could feel a big difference when using the AK-47 or the M4. Or when I used to Glock or the Desert Eagle. But between the AK-47, M4, and that third machine gun, they all practically look and feel the same. The models, textures, and colors are pretty bland looking in-game.

 

Still, I'm not sure if that's it. Something about the weapons just doesn't seem right in V. This has been on my mind for a while, but I just haven't been able to put my finger on it.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:31 AM

I don't know how to describe it, but since GTA V's release, to me, the weapons don't have much...I don't know, weight?

 

I don't know if it's the textures, the sounds, or what, but they all feel pretty much the same. By default, they're completely gray. Even with the color tints the rest of the weapon is pretty bland. Compared to IV or even Max Payne 3 the weapons don't seem that detailed this time around. Or maybe they do, I'm not sure.

 

Or it could be the sounds. The firing, the reloading sounds, the cocking clicks - all those seem "off?"

 

I don't know, I just can't describe it but I was hoping someone else would have a similar idea or feeling. I mean when playing IV I could feel a big difference when using the AK-47 or the M4. Or when I used to Glock or the Desert Eagle. But between the AK-47, M4, and that third machine gun, they all practically look and feel the same. The models, textures, and colors are pretty bland looking in-game.

 

Still, I'm not sure if that's it. Something about the weapons just doesn't seem right in V. This has been on my mind for a while, but I just haven't been able to put my finger on it.

It's not just the weapons, to me I feel like it's everything. The cars for example, apart from a handful of cars(Futo, Pheonix, Dominator, Coquette etc...), the rest just feel like all the same, just tweaked. I know what you're saying about the guns too though. There's only a handful of guns that feel true, the rest just feel like a tweaked copy n' paste job.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:33 AM Edited by Blood-Is-in-Diamond, 19 February 2014 - 08:36 AM.

Oh Lord here we f*cking Go again.What with every complaint threads in 2 seconds
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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:33 AM Edited by Cutter De Blanc, 19 February 2014 - 08:35 AM.

Too many weapons that fire bullets quickly, not enough flamethrower.  

 

Might be cuz everyone dies so fast it doesn't really matter what weapon you use as long as you hit the guy you're aiming for. I like duking it out with NOOSE; those guys can take a few shots without instantly dying and really give me a better sense in the differences between guns and of what works well and in what situations. 

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:35 AM

Maybe Rockstar was too f*cking Lazy i guess.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:36 AM

Oh Lord here we f*cking Go again.What with every complaint threads in 2 seconds.what next,Why do we have Cars? Tbh this thread should be lock this instant.

Shut the f*ck up, you never have anything worth while to read and you always put down people who have legitimate problems with this game. This game isn't what fans thought it was going to be. It was dumbed down for the casual gamer, so for things like this to be a problem is pretty major. Seeing your posts makes me truly wonder if you've ever actually played any Grand Theft Auto games pre-SA.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:40 AM

GTA 5 is a masterpiece,i love the game but now seeing everyone is nitpicking i guess i will join the bandwagon for once ;)
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If you didnt raise your f*cking expectation high maybe you will enjoy the game,instead of making threads to complain just for the sake of it,did you even bother reading my post before you say any crap.
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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:46 AM

Oh Lord here we f*cking Go again.What with every complaint threads in 2 seconds.what next,Why do we have Cars? Tbh this thread should be lock this instant.

 

 

Maybe Rockstar was too f*cking Lazy i guess.

So can you make up your f*cking mind on what side you're on, or are you just going to keep relying on other people to post your thoughts for you?

 

And contrary to this one thread I've made about an issue I have with V, most of the time I'm actually enjoying it. But god forbid someone has one issue with a supposed perfect game. I guess it's either sh*t or perfect around here, huh? At this point I'm starting to think you're just a troll with how you exaggerate everything and backtrack yourself.

 

I'm just trying to have a discussion here. I'm not mindlessly complaining about some trivial thing in the game. If you're not going to contribute to the discussion and just generalize everything while blowing off the thread, you should get the hell out. Or do you need someone to make that decision for you like always?

 

 

It's not just the weapons, to me I feel like it's everything. The cars for example, apart from a handful of cars(Futo, Pheonix, Dominator, Coquette etc...), the rest just feel like all the same, just tweaked. I know what you're saying about the guns too though. There's only a handful of guns that feel true, the rest just feel like a tweaked copy n' paste job.

Yeah, with the new handling a lot of the vehicles feel the same since you can easily turn with all of them. There's a slight difference between offroad vehicles, but other than that most are just faster or slower.

 

But the weapons - it seems like most just have a different skin and model, and do more or less damage. I think it might be the models and textures though is what I'm noticing a lot. Each one is mostly gray compared to IV where each one had a unique look. The Glock with it's black sleek design, the Desert Eagle with it's matte and slight chrome finish, the AK-47 with the wooden stock etc.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:47 AM

GTA 5 is a masterpiece,i love the game but now seeing everyone is nitpicking i guess i will join the bandwagon for once ;)
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If you didnt raise your f*cking expectation high maybe you will enjoy the game,instead of making threads to complain just for the sake of it,did you even bother reading my post before you say any crap.

It's not that we raised out expectations, it's R* that raised them. They said this and that about this being their most ambitious and best GTA yet, and yet what we got was a watered-down San Andreas. I do enjoy the game, and I love it but just because I enjoy it doesn't mean I don't have my problems with it. The problems in this game, are quite major in some areas too, so don't even try to go around acting like this game is perfect. This game is FAR from perfect, and it's gameplay is pretty basic too. I'm sorry if you enjoy simple things, but for me Grand Theft Auto was never about simplicity. You need to realize that this game has flaws, and you have to accept, especially on a specific-game forum, that these flaws are going to be put into the light.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:52 AM

Yeah i understand i played gta 4: the lost and damend today and the weapons feel better then they do in gta 5, the guns in gta 4 feel like they have more weaight and more power


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:55 AM

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I love GTA 5 and in my opinion it the best openworld game i have ever played.yeah it has it flaws and i can admit to it but it a near perfect game to me,i dont give a f*ck about GTAO.I was joking when i said "Rockstar was f*cking Lazy".tbh i am not in a good mood at the moment and seeing alot of complaints thread in 2 seconds i just imagine what wrong with this great game that just getting nitpicked for no reasons? yeah there have to be threads like this but it already too much.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 08:59 AM

I swear it's the health of everyone that's the problem. You can just punch most people in the face and they'll die. 

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 09:02 AM Edited by Blood-Is-in-Diamond, 19 February 2014 - 09:07 AM.


GTA 5 is a masterpiece,i love the game but now seeing everyone is nitpicking i guess i will join the bandwagon for once ;)
@Blingy
If you didnt raise your f*cking expectation high maybe you will enjoy the game,instead of making threads to complain just for the sake of it,did you even bother reading my post before you say any crap.

It's not that we raised out expectations, it's R* that raised them. They said this and that about this being their most ambitious and best GTA yet, and yet what we got was a watered-down San Andreas. I do enjoy the game, and I love it but just because I enjoy it doesn't mean I don't have my problems with it. The problems in this game, are quite major in some areas too, so don't even try to go around acting like this game is perfect. This game is FAR from perfect, and it's gameplay is pretty basic too. I'm sorry if you enjoy simple things, but for me Grand Theft Auto was never about simplicity. You need to realize that this game has flaws, and you have to accept, especially on a specific-game forum, that these flaws are going to be put into the light.
I get your point bro,being a GTA 5 fan,i know it has alot of flaws but you should know it wasnt just developed by Rockstar North,other Rockstar studios also helped.plus the Hype wasnt Rockstar fault,GTA is a Popular franchise what do you think gamers will do when they heard a new GTA is coming out? Yeah There were interviews etc but at some stage alot of things dont make the cut.I can bet my life that the same thing will happen for future GTAs.Alot of Ridiculous Hypes and exceptations.If the game was unfinished or flawed 33ml people wouldnt have bought it or 70% of gamers wouldnt be playing GTAO art we speak.GTA 5 is still the only game that makes alot of people still have their PS3 and Xbox360.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 09:03 AM Edited by SmoothGetaway, 19 February 2014 - 09:04 AM.

RDR and Max Payne 3 had superior gun effects/animations/feel. Yeah, I can't pinpoint it either but it is there...this is coming from someone who has spent a lot of time around firearms both civilian and military grade.

I don't know why, but it seems to be the case with every GTA, same with car sound effects. It's still a step up from GTAIV's pop guns though.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 09:49 AM Edited by Lazyboy., 19 February 2014 - 09:51 AM.

GTA 5 is a masterpiece,i love the game but now seeing everyone is nitpicking i guess i will join the bandwagon for once ;)
@Blingy
If you didnt raise your f*cking expectation high maybe you will enjoy the game,instead of making threads to complain just for the sake of it,did you even bother reading my post before you say any crap.

It's not that we raised out expectations, it's R* that raised them. They said this and that about this being their most ambitious and best GTA yet, and yet what we got was a watered-down San Andreas. I do enjoy the game, and I love it but just because I enjoy it doesn't mean I don't have my problems with it. The problems in this game, are quite major in some areas too, so don't even try to go around acting like this game is perfect. This game is FAR from perfect, and it's gameplay is pretty basic too. I'm sorry if you enjoy simple things, but for me Grand Theft Auto was never about simplicity. You need to realize that this game has flaws, and you have to accept, especially on a specific-game forum, that these flaws are going to be put into the light.

I get your point bro,being a GTA 5 fan,i know it has alot of flaws but you should know it wasnt just developed by Rockstar North,other Rockstar studios also helped.plus the Hype wasnt Rockstar fault,GTA is a Popular franchise what do you think gamers will do when they heard a new GTA is coming out? Yeah There were interviews etc but at some stage alot of things dont make the cut.I can bet my life that the same thing will happen for future GTAs.Alot of Ridiculous Hypes and exceptations.If the game was unfinished or flawed 33ml people wouldnt have bought it or 70% of gamers wouldnt be playing GTAO art we speak.GTA 5 is still the only game that makes alot of people still have their PS3 and Xbox360.

 
Wow, it's been a long time since I've read such sh*te.
 
What the f*ck has other studious got to do with this? 
 
The hype was exactly R*'s fault. You don't need "high expectations" to assume that when R* say it's their most ambitious game, it should be their most ambitious game.
 
How about all the sh*t Rockstar say is in the game, to generate hype which end up being some lazy thrown-in feature or not there at all?
 
Let's see.
 
 
- Rockstar described their engine being able to run more physics, and that the new driving would not be dumbed down. That's completely bullsh*t. No, this isn't an opinion, it's a fact. It is a plain simple fact that GTAV's driving is dumbed down.
 
- All the pre-release screenshots that were touched-up. If Rockstar post a picture of their game involving a hugely detailed area with lots of trees, do you not think it's fair we should, you know, have a hugely detailed area with lots of trees?
 
- "Rockstar's most deep and ambitious game". Yeah, no. I don't see anything ambitious about it. Driving mechanics are shallow, the story is shallow, the map is shallow and actually quite dead, the radio station music is shallow, and Online which was hyped us as being the ultimate online GTA experience, was just bullsh*t. It's GTA IV MP stripped of all competitive mode, with some copy-paste safehouses and a "community" experience that is not in the game. And if racing wasn't bad enough, they even added "Catchup"!
 
- How about NPC interaction? Rockstar shoehorned NPC interaction in all of their pre-release demos, with all of their NPCs doing different things at different times of day, with a litte more emphasis on date and time, such as traffic building up at rush hour. 
 
No, I don't give a f*ck about whatever excuse you'll churn out. "Console limitations". That's like a restaurant serving this delicious meal, hyping it up to have everything, you go in expecting high class cuisine, and it ends up being cheese on toast. The chef's excuse is "Yeah the oven broke". No that's not a f*cking excuse, we paid full price for this meal and you're giving us cheese on f*cking toast. That's not how it works, Blood-Is-In-Diamond.
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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:02 AM

I'd like to be able to hit someone like 3 times with the melee weapons... that would be a start. There's no challenge when it comes to weapons it's just whoever shoots their gun first. The lack of chainsaws, flamethrowers and nail guns makes me sad.


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:31 AM

The guns feel way better than in IV for sure.  

 

/flamesuit on.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 11:44 AM

We need MOAR semi automatic rifles!!

That power of the Mini-14 in Max Payne 3 was awesome. Hell throw some red dead classic rifles in there if you want.
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Posted 19 February 2014 - 11:55 AM

GTA IV's AK and M4 are amazing. Not only do they have great secondary zoom, but they sound menacing too. GTA V's guns sound and feel like cap guns by comparison IMO.
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Posted 19 February 2014 - 11:59 AM

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So you are telling me that Rockstar are the only game company that get interviews before releases? or they are the only ones that take off features before a release date? Let alone we didnt get much info before the game release,Lol just the Gameplay trailer hyped the sh*t out of millions of gamers.Like i said GTA is Extremely Popular,that if Rockstar said a new GTA is coming out next year you would have seen alot of hype on the internet.
Most People just raised their exceptation so high that the problem.Unfortunately same thing will happen with GTA 6/7 and other future GTAs.we just have to live with this great and beautiful game for another 5 or more years.
Tbh i dont give a f*ck anymore sick off all these Complain Threads.and if you think i am saying that just to leave the arguement,Fine that your opinion.at the moment i am just FEDUP.and yeah provide me with articles on how Rockstar hyped the game,if not you are just saying crap.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:05 PM

Tbh i dont give a f*ck anymore sick off all these Complain Threads.


No offense, but why you keep posting in them if they bother you so much? It's a discussion forum. What do you expect?
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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:07 PM

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So you are telling me that Rockstar are the only game company that get interviews before releases? or they are the only ones that take off features before a release date? Let alone we didnt get much info before the game release,Lol just the Gameplay trailer hyped the sh*t out of millions of gamers.Like i said GTA is Extremely Popular,that if Rockstar said a new GTA is coming out next year you would have seen alot of hype on the internet.
Most People just raised their exceptation so high that the problem.Unfortunately same thing will happen with GTA 6/7 and other future GTAs.we just have to live with this great and beautiful game for another 5 or more years.
Tbh i dont give a f*ck anymore sick off all these Complain Threads.and if you think i am saying that just to leave the arguement,Fine that your opinion.at the moment i am just FEDUP.and yeah provide me with articles on how Rockstar hyped the game,if not you are just saying crap.

Did you read Lazyboy's post? He named a bunch of things that Rockstar said that didn't happen/was dumbed down feature. Did you read right past that? Even the gameplay trailer lied in some places.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:17 PM Edited by Blood-Is-in-Diamond, 19 February 2014 - 12:15 PM.

@up (no offense name is so long and i dont want to drag the thread)

Yeah i did,that why i said he should prove what he says with articles if not then what he said isnt true.tell me how GTA 5 Gameplay Trailer is a lie,when everything we saw is in the final game?unless you are talking about GTAO trailer or the console limitations of trees etc.

@LazyBoy
I am ready to prove what you said it wrong with articles,but i will wait until your reply.

Tbh i dont give a f*ck anymore sick off all these Complain Threads.

No offense, but why you keep posting in them
if they bother you so much? It's a discussion forum. What do you expect?

Yeah i know it a forum,and i love it that why i post comments.I said i was fedup with Complaint Threads.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:22 PM

TBH, I think the problem is the health of the peds.

 

It doesn't matter what guns or weapons you use, they'll always die in the first 5 shots or 3 hits if you're using melee weapons.

 

 

Oh Lord here we f*cking Go again.What with every complaint threads in 2 seconds

Blood, I've been holding myself to say this, but this is waaaaay too much. I try to be nice and polite to you, but this time, I have to let this out:

 

What the flying fu*k. Seriously. Your posts are all very boring and predictable. ALL of your posts tell us about how GTA V "Revolutionized stuff, bro" or how GTA V "Popularized the series bro". I'm getting sick and tired of these posts.

 

Trust me, in EVERY thread, you come in, say R* and GTA V are your gods, and get out. Sometimes you even send us links to reviews of the game. You DO know that R* paid the companies to say all that stuff don't you?

 

Oh, and you think that there are flaws in the game? HAH! No, you don't. That's a lie. You need to get out of your mummy's basement and grow some brains. Please do that soon, Blood.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:26 PM

I agree with the OP


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:38 PM Edited by Blood-Is-in-Diamond, 19 February 2014 - 12:44 PM.

 

 

how GTA V "Revolutionized stuff, bro" or how GTA V "Popularized the series bro". I'm getting sick and tired of these posts.
 
Trust me, in EVERY thread, you come in, say R* and GTA V are your gods, and get out. Sometimes you even send us links to reviews of the game. You DO know that R* paid the companies to say all that stuff don't you?
 
Oh, and you think that there are flaws in the game? HAH! No, you don't. That's a lie. You need to get out of your mummy's basement and grow some brains. Please do that soon, Blood.

LOL Damn you totally misunderstand all what i post tbh,Note when i start a thread about GTA 5 sometime it get move to (GTA Series Chats) why?because i never use "GTA 5 Revolutionised the Openworld Genre" excep for 1/2 threads etc I use "GTA Revolutionised the Genre" Yeah there is no arguements there.But i dont want to start that again.I you seen any of my recent threads? Even i that love GTA 5 knows that it has flaws but i dont have to nag about it all the time.and i dont if Rockstar pay reviews or not but i am sure they dont.Plus I also send link of any article to prove my points (not just reviews).You know i dont really care what 90% of people think of me on this forums afterall we dont know each other.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:39 PM

So? You're still a GTA V fanboy.

 

Even you admitted it. 


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:46 PM Edited by Blood-Is-in-Diamond, 19 February 2014 - 12:49 PM.

So? You're still a GTA V fanboy.
 
Even you admitted it. 

Yeah i am GTA 5 fan :) but unfortunately all these threads make the game look worthless.So you can expect me to be like OP when GTA 6 comes out Lol but i am not someone like that,no matter anything a game is a game and we play then foqt fun that includes "Clones","Rip-offs" etc.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:47 PM

Guys, just ignore Blood's posts. I know he won't ignore complaint threads, but this discussion isn't moving because you keep replying to him. Ignore him, report him, and post whatever is relevant.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 12:50 PM

Guys, take it to PM. It's "Complain about weapons" not "Complain about everyone and everything" thread.

 

 

 

What bothers me about weapons in game is that the melee ones are basically reskins of each other. Baseball Bat, Golf Club, Nightstick, Crowbar and Hammer are the same thing but with slightly different stats, models and textures.

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