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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:15 AM

 

HONOLULU — A police officer shot a 17-year-old runaway in the wrist Tuesday morning at a Hawaii high school after the teen cut one officer with a knife and punched two others, authorities said.

 
State Department of Education spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said the boy showed up at Roosevelt High School near downtown Honolulu, and officials there recognized him as a runaway and called police. The boy had been a student at the public school before but wasn't registered for classes there this semester, she said.
 
Honolulu police Maj. Richard Robinson said officers arrived at the school and tried to take the boy into custody, but he lunged at them.
 
The teen attacked one of the officers with a kitchen knife, leaving him with a minor cut on his torso, Robinson said. He also hit two other officers, but neither suffered serious injuries.
 
One of the officers then fired two shots, hitting the boy once in the wrist. The teen was taken to a hospital in serious condition, EMS spokeswoman Shayne Enright said. His injuries were not life-threatening.
 
The incident prompted a lockdown at Roosevelt, which has an enrollment of nearly 1,400.
 
The officer who fired is administrative leave during an investigation, Robinson said.
 
Tenari Maafala, president of the statewide police officers union, said the knife posed a clear threat and officers are trained to stop a threat, regardless of the suspect's age.
 
"They didn't come here looking to shoot somebody," said Maafala, who went to the school as part of the Honolulu police peer support unit.
 
Noah Powell, a 16-year-old junior, said the shooting happened in a school counselor's office. Powell said he was in a nearby office and heard the struggle and shots but didn't see the 17-year-old or know who he was.
 
Powell texted his parents afterward to let them know he was OK. He said he also posted on Facebook that he was fine and got quick responses from people saying they were praying for the school.
 
Kealii Akiona-Soares, a junior, was in a social studies class when he heard a faint shot at about 8:20 a.m.
 
Then a school bell sounded and students were kept in their classrooms, the 17-year-old said. He said his class continued with a politics lesson, and everyone kept mostly calm.
 
"I guess it happens a lot in mainland schools, so it's not surprising," Akiona-Soares said.
 
Several parents, including Carolyn Richardson, gathered outside Roosevelt after word of the shooting spread. Some were visibly upset, and many texted or called their children, who were still on lockdown inside.
 
"This is really freaking me out," Richardson said.
 
She said she learned about the shooting around 9 a.m. through a text from her son, CarDarow.
 
CarDarow, a sophomore, texted her that he heard shots had been fired at the school but he was all right. Richardson then used her cellphone to video chat with her son.
 
"I gotta hear your voice," she screamed at him.
 
Faith Kalamau said she rushed to the school as soon as she got an automated call saying the campus was on lockdown.
 
"I'm very worried," she said. "I heard on the news there were some people shot."
 
After reuniting with her son, freshman Kahaku King, she said officials took too long to provide details about what happened.
 
"I was frustrated," she said. "I thought maybe more information should have been told to the parents or at least to the media. This is the first time I've been in this situation."
 
School was let out for the day at about 10 a.m., and a steady stream of students filed off the campus, near the National Memorial Cemetery of the Pacific known as Punchbowl. Classes were to resume Wednesday.
 
"Incidents like this are very rare in Hawaii; however, our partnership with the Honolulu Police Department on safety drills played a major role in the success of today's lockdown," Schools Superintendent Kathryn Matayoshi said. She commended staff and students for following safety protocols and thanked parents for their patience and understanding.
 
Hawaii is one of 12 states that have not had someone entering a campus with the intent to shoot, state Education Department officials said.
 
In 2011, a handgun that a 14-year-old student brought to Highlands Intermediate School in Pearl City went off, narrowly missing one student and leaving another with minor injuries.
 
"I'm really shocked it happened here in Hawaii of all places," said Angie Estrella as she was picking up her son, a freshman, and her daughter, a senior.
 
The incident comes amid a string of violence in recent months involving students at U.S. schools.
 
On Monday, a 16-year-old boy set himself on fire at a suburban Denver high school in an apparent suicide attempt. And earlier this month, a seventh-grader opened fire at a Roswell, N.M., middle school gym, wounding a 12-year-old boy and 13-year-old girl.
 
In Philadelphia, a boy and a girl hanging out with fellow students this month in a high school gym were shot and wounded.
 
Last month, a student gunman in Centennial, Colo., shot and killed a 17-year-old classmate before killing himself — a day before the one-year anniversary of the Newtown, Conn., school shooting.
 
Goddamn, all these goddamn school shootings are getting on my goddamn nerves. Pretty soon, school shootings are gonna be so frequent, we're gonna stop reporting them since they seem to be happening every third week at this rate.

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:17 AM

'Murika.

 

Sadly this is getting pretty routine over there.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:18 AM

Let's just save a lot of time in this thread and say that guns are bad except for when they're not.

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:20 AM

oh sh*t man

 

and hawaii is a calm place as i've heard

 

things are getting pretty bad

 

the world is f*cked man, for real.. :( 


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:21 AM

Let's just save a lot of time in this thread and say that guns are bad except for when they're not.

I'm all for gun control. By gun control, I don't mean "hand over ever single weapon you have so we can melt them down into rebar", I mean gun control as in "you really don't need that assault rifle with a 60-round magazine and red-dot sight"

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:25 AM

Hold on, guys, this isn't a school shooting. This is a police altercation with a troubled kid.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:29 AM

Hey in reference to the OP and in defense of Philadelphia. The two kids that took small wounds weren't being shot at. A few kids were trading some guns and one of the guns fired. Kids here know to do their shooting off school time.
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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:31 AM Edited by Nale Dixon, 29 January 2014 - 12:31 AM.

Hold on, guys, this isn't a school shooting. This is a police altercation with a troubled kid.

God damn it, now I have to admit I didn't read the original post.

 

NICE JOB OTTER.

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:31 AM

Thanks for the title change, much more relevant.

 

Well at least everyone's ok this time. But I'm sick of all this real life violence, instead of killing we should be chilling. :(

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:32 AM

I dont care about who shot who, I am more concerned about the fact otters are cute. Nah in all seriousness, they atleast should of had used a tazer on him, if they werent carrying atleast their nightsticks.

 

However I do think it was justified as he could of had killed one of the officers with the knife.

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:34 AM

I dont care about who shot who, I am more concerned about the fact otters are cute. Nah in all seriousness, they atleast should of had used a tazer on him, if they werent carrying atleast their nightsticks.

 

However I do think it was justified as he could of had killed one of the officers with the knife.

I know some cops are brutal like that. My dad tried to surrender to some cops once, but they ended up shooting him because he was holding a revolver and he didn't let go of it when he was raising his arms to surrender.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:42 AM Edited by Limitless, 29 January 2014 - 01:02 AM.

Hold on for a second.. did this kid not use a knife instead of a fire arm? So where are y'all are getting this "Yet, another school shooting"? If y'all are talking about the officer who shot the kid and is pointing the school shooting at him then what the f*ck! I don't even understand how gun control applies to this situation. Now you all want cops to stop carrying fire arms too?

 

The officer shot the kid in self-defense, since he posed an imminent threat to that officer and to every single student on that school's campus. Then he even stabbed another officer before getting shot, so I don't blame the officer one bit for shooting the kid in his wrist. But still, I do not understand this whole school shooting thing here. Can someone please explain this to me? From what I understand a school shooting means an active shooter used a fire arm towards students or faculty, with the intent to cause mass casualty. If anything, this should be called a school stabbing or altercation with police. Also, otters are cute.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:49 AM

WHERE ARE THE DAMN OTTERS

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:51 AM

WHERE ARE THE DAMN OTTERS

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:51 AM

WHERE ARE THE DAMN OTTERS

Nostalgia trip.

 

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:56 AM

Hold on for a second.. did this kid not use a knife instead of a fire arm? So where are y'all are getting this "Yet, another school shooting"? If y'all are talking about the officer who shot the kid and is pointing the school shooting at him then what the f*ck! I don't even understand how gun control applies to this situation. Now you all want cops to stop carrying fire arms too?
 
The officer shot the kid in self-defense, since he posed an imminent threat to that officer and to every single student on that school's campus. Then he even stabbed another officer before getting shot, so I don't blame the officer one bit for shooting the kid in his wrist. But still, I do not understand this whole school shooting thing here. Can someone please explain this to me? From what I understand a school shooting means an active shooter used a fire arm towards students or faculty, with the intent to cause mass casualty. If anything, this should be called a school stabbing or altercation with police. Also, otters are cute. 
 
Edit: @Tenxax: In the United States, officers have the right to defend them self's or someone else's life if they believe you can cause great bodily harm to them. Now depending on the threat, some officers may choice to use a teaser, or another non-lethal weapon, but in this case the kid did have a kitchen knife so the officer had the full right to shoot him. Like I said also, he stabbed an officer beforehand; this is another reason to skip to lethal force. If someone will stab a law officer, what makes you think he will listen to another officer when he's asked to put the knife down? This is a justified shooting in my eyes. Now some officers empty the clip, do a tactical reload and get ready to shoot again and some will shoot to wound or at least disable the suspect from using the weapon, like in this case. So just because the officer did't use non-lethal force doesn't mean he had the intention to kill.  


One person didn't read the OP the other simply mentioned violent attacks schools.

Anyway, good job to the officers, shot the knife from his hand! That's some skills.

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 01:01 AM Edited by boxmonster, 29 January 2014 - 01:21 AM.

Wow, how dandy are things in Hawaii that some kid stabbing people gets shot and now that state has become the self proclaimed leader in school shootings overnight with just with one non-fatal defense shot delivered by the proper authorities?

 

Am I missing something or are news days slow in Hawaii?

 

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 01:01 AM

Anyway, good job to the officers, shot the knife from his hand! That's some skills.

 

I tell you, real skill would of been if that officer used his force and jedi mind powers to pull the knife out of his hand. 

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 01:08 AM

If someone attacks a police officer with a deadly weapon that officer or his colleagues has every right to use force against the offender. That will be all. Dont see why this is news

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 01:14 AM

Man I was just about to post this since I live here.
Crazy stuff be happening here.


Man this reminds me of a time last year were one of my army buddies went crazy driving drunk and on the wrong way through the heavily crowded Waikiki strip. Cops chased him and then set up road blocks. He rammed the cop cars and bAcked up and rammed the cops again and then the cops shot the f*ck outta him. HPD Don't play!

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 07:30 AM

The HPD done the job right. They shot him in self-defence, and the kid was disarmed before things got worse.

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 08:47 AM

WHERE ARE THE DAMN OTTERS

http://gtaforums.com/user/28470-otter/ ;)

 

OT: Damn. Another school shooting? These are becoming very frequent lately. :/ 


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 09:34 AM

WHERE ARE THE DAMN OTTERS

 

I thought the purpose of that was to get Otter to reply to this thread.

 

And it worked:

 

Hold on, guys, this isn't a school shooting. This is a police altercation with a troubled kid.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 12:41 PM

I was going to ask, what news has to do with Otters being cute?

Thanks Svip.

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Posted 29 January 2014 - 01:09 PM

Hold on, guys, this isn't a school shooting. This is a police altercation with a troubled kid.

Yes and it's also about how cute Otters are.

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By the way, that kid must have some balls to take on those cops. Sh*t, I wish I was him.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 01:22 PM

'Murika.

 

Sadly this is getting pretty routine over there.

Its been routine for a while now.


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 01:55 PM

 

'Murika.

 

Sadly this is getting pretty routine over there.

Its been routine for a while now.

Which kind of routine?

Kids being shot by Overly fearful Police?

Or people generally being shot by Police, who for a brief period used their batons on knife wielders?

Looks like we're moving back to 1920s with gun violence by Police.

Remember Handguns aren't allowed in the Islands (for citizens), they are afraid the Cannibals will use them.

 


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:13 PM

 

 

'Murika.

 

Sadly this is getting pretty routine over there.

Its been routine for a while now.

Which kind of routine?

Kids being shot by Overly fearful Police?

Or people generally being shot by Police, who for a brief period used their batons on knife wielders?

Looks like we're moving back to 1920s with gun violence by Police.

Remember Handguns aren't allowed in the Islands (for citizens), they are afraid the Cannibals will use them.

 

 

I'm usually the first to call out over zealous cops, but the kid lunged at him with a knife. What did you want the cop to do?


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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:26 PM

I'm usually the first to call out over zealous cops, but the kid lunged at him with a knife. What did you want the cop to do?

Used to be (1960-80s) A crack across the body with the baton, then it was Wash his face with Mace, lately give him the shock of his life.
Use of the gun was for 'life threats'.
The only good side of a gun in a knife fight is that the Anti-Gun people get to use the stat. "Child involved Shooting" don't matter if the kid get the shot by the Police.
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Posted 29 January 2014 - 02:31 PM

Since when was someone trying to stab you not an imminent threat to life? If this were an ordinary citizen rather than a police officer who fired you'd be extolling the virtues of an armed populace being able to defend themselves from violent aggressors. Remember the statements you made in the Trayvon Martin thread? He wasn't even armed.

If there's anything that typifies your responses in threads of this kind, it's a complete and total lack of consistency in your arguments.
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