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Posted 28 March 2014 - 06:19 PM Edited by Svip, 28 March 2014 - 06:21 PM.

That's pretty f*cking cool! How much did it cost? (I'm fine with DKK here)

 

According to this from the Danish tax agency, a regular set of number plates costs 1180 DKK (in addition to the registration fee, which depends on the car).  Historical accurate number plates cost 2480 DKK.  The site also state, that regular plates can be bought from any registered number plate operator, whereas historical accurate number plates must be obtained from the agency's offices (of which there are 3 in the whole country).

 

They warn that they take 8 weeks to make, but it took 6 weeks for mine.

 

Edit: If you are interested, they also list the historical designs for the number plates here.  Yes, any of these designs are available to you, if your car was first registered in their period.

 

I love it, and I have to say that Copenhagen is my favourite European city. So clean and beautiful, and also Christiania :p

 

Actually, the picture was taken at DTU (Denmark's Technical University), near Kongens Lyngby, which is just outside Copenhagen (although considered part of the Greater Copenhagen area).

 

It isn't much fun driving around Copenhagen I'm afraid.  Maybe when it really becomes summer.


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Posted 28 March 2014 - 06:59 PM Edited by Marwin Moody, 28 March 2014 - 06:59 PM.

Man I'm envious of that, and it makes your car even cooler. Here in Norway we don't get historical plates. Here's an example of how wrong it can go:

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 07:20 PM

Oh my.  I joked with Chris CJ Jakobsson in the "Post a picture of your car" topic, that his Swedish number plates was ruining the look of his car.  I still stand by that, but I can look past it in most cases.  But that number plate really is ruining the look.  It's like a huge boil on the car screaming, "look at me, I'm ugly!"

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Posted 28 March 2014 - 09:03 PM

Do you have a rear shot with the black plates?


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Posted 28 March 2014 - 09:46 PM

Not yet, I'm afraid.  But I am planning a drive in it tomorrow and the day after.  And I will make sure to bring my camera.

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Posted 29 March 2014 - 08:22 PM Edited by Svip, 29 March 2014 - 08:25 PM.

Here is a picture I took today of the car from behind:

 

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Also took this picture:

 

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I plan on taking some more interior shots tomorrow.

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Posted 30 March 2014 - 06:19 PM

Those plates look pretty decent. They dont leap out at you and seem to blend nicely with the colors of the car. They remind me a lot of the old french ones too, silver letters on a black plate. Gives it an authentic look :^:


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Posted 28 April 2014 - 08:58 AM

So I finally got my fingernails dirty with motor oil and what else hides inside a car.

 

My DS had a strange defect, that when the car was lifted, it would not lower itself back.  But only on the front wheels, the back wheels would always lower like they should.  This was quite frustrating, because it meant the ride became rather uncomfortable when the car was stuck in its highest position, and also had the potential of damaging the car as a too stiff suspension makes the chassis rattle far more.

 

We tried replacing the height regulator for the front wheels, but it did not work.  It was not until we tried placing a test pipe from the height regulator's pressure release directly to the LHM container, that it worked normally.  We concluded that the pipe from the height regulator to the combiner (which combines the pipes from the front and back wheel's and leads back to the LHM container) was the problem.  And sure enough, inside it we discovered a piece of rubber.  And a thick wire hidden inside the pipe, likely with the intent of regulating the speed of which the car lowers itself.  Although, some Dutchmen learnt years ago that this wire effectively had little to no real effect.  Sure, without it, the car did lower itself less elegantly (read: faster), but not in a way that was dangerous for the chassis or suspension.

 

We remove the wire from the pipe (which we at this point had to cut over to reveal the wire) and replaced it with a new pipe.  This rather unorthodox solution worked.  So now my car's suspension finally feels like it should.

 

Beyond that, the hydrodynamic suspension works incredibly well.  The rumours that it was usually the thing to fail on these cars are nothing I can confirm.  So it was all in all a good day yesterday.  I had a lot of fun de-assembling and re-assembling my own car.

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Posted 02 May 2014 - 12:09 AM

It looks so lovely, my favorite French car by far.


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Posted 24 June 2014 - 08:20 AM

The front of your car screams COME AT ME BRO
Awesome.

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Posted 25 June 2014 - 12:47 AM

Nice car OP


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 04:12 PM Edited by Svip, 02 August 2014 - 04:13 PM.

So in June, I decided to do something daring for an old car like this.  I drove it to Provence.  That's a trip of about 1.700+ kilometres.  That was the least exhausting drive I've had down there.  But it wasn't without problems.

 

Somewhere around Luxembourg/Belgium, the hydraulics began to leak.  While I could still drive the car, I had to keep refilling LHM+ fluid on it until I found a Citroën DS specialist in Tournus (just south of Dijon), who fixed it.

 

But that wasn't too bad spending an unexpected day in Tournus, because the specialist had quite interesting cars.  He had this very rare Tissier DS, of only 10 were built.

 

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And before you ask; yes, the three back axles are also powered by the same hydrodynamic suspension, effectively creating the most comfortable car transport.

 

In his exhibition rooms, which was primarily full of D-models, a HY and an Ami, he also had a Lamborghini Miura, because... why not?

 

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But after a day in Tournus, he had my car fixed, so we drove onward to Provence.

 

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And all was good until... the rubber tube from the fuel pump (that pumps the fuel from the tank to the engine) hop off, and petrol began pouring out on the street.

 

And unlike the leaking hydraulics, this meant I couldn't drive the car.  But I'm a man, and I don't see why I can't fix this myself.  I had access to tools and another car to get necessary parts.  The most difficult part was explaining the part I needed in French.

 

But once that was accomplished - through a lot of hand gestures - I attached the new part to the fuel pump and the leak was over.  Fortunately, this was just in time for driving the car back home, so I didn't get to drive it a lot around Provence.

 

But it really drives well.  Despite the noise, you never really get uncomfortable after hundreds of kilometres.

 

I have decided to replace the ignition with an electronic ignition because it improves performance and requires no maintenance.  I know some purists would probably oppose that.  But the fuel pump is a Chinese knock-off for a Citroën CX, so it's hardly 'pure' anyway.

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Posted 02 August 2014 - 04:19 PM

That sounds like a great way to spend a summer month, what was the budget like? I've always wanted to drive south in europe, but I'm afraid of the gas cost for an old car. Were there any obstacles aside from the car?


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Posted 02 August 2014 - 04:23 PM

I think I ended up spending between 400 EUR and 500 EUR on petrol.  But there were really no other obstacles.  Driving on black Danish plates abroad is not a problem.  In fact, I mostly got thumbs up from everyone else.  Motorcyclists and sports cars would slow down on the motorway to give me a thumbs up, police cars would give way in cities and lorries would sound their horn when overtaking.

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Posted 09 August 2014 - 01:36 PM

What went wrong with the suspension?


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Posted 09 August 2014 - 06:55 PM Edited by Svip, 10 August 2014 - 09:41 AM.

What went wrong with the suspension?

 

A tiny hole/leak in the rubber pipe where the LHM+ liquid returns to the container.

 

My go to mechanic suggested it was simply wear on the rubber pipe, and he said that it usually has to be replaced every 100k kilometre.  And my car is now up above 140k kilometre, so I assume the rubber pipe was probably still original.  But once it began leaking, I had it replace in Tournus.


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Posted 11 August 2014 - 10:15 PM

Have you checked it for bombs?
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Posted 12 August 2014 - 04:57 AM

Beautiful car! I love the Citroens, and I'm pretty jealous.


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Posted 12 August 2014 - 08:02 AM

 

Have you checked it for bombs?

 

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 02:53 PM

Well, unlike the United Kingdom, bombs are not commonly rigged to cars in Denmark, so I didn't check. But more importantly, it certainly hasn't blown up yet. But as much as I have been looking through the machinery, I haven't spotted anything unusual yet.
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Posted 12 August 2014 - 06:34 PM

So you got to make your important speech at the UN?

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Posted 12 August 2014 - 10:49 PM

So you got to make your important speech at the UN?


I do not believe a speech at the UN is important. But the speech was spoken to a 1970s crowd. We will find a way to avert disaster from this oil crisis!




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