And then you have example of your idea in V. Was it worth it? Was countryside really that great and did R* really did something great with it?
It's all well and good saying, "lets have more countryside in a GTA game, it's cool to have", but it's not so cool when there is not much going on, or when there is not much interesting and fun to see or do. This was the case in V - lovely to look at, nice to drive around, but for most part it was useless and empty.
Afterward, it had me thinking that Rockstar should have concentrated first on making Los Santos a most immersive and engaging environment by creating many interiors, many decent side missions, buying safehouse properties, better gang and ped AI (random shootouts, and violence), make LS feel like a place where something is always going on and always something to do. If LS had been like that, I'd not have been too bothered about the near-useless feel of the countryside and wilderness in V, it would have been just a nice place to get away from city life. Instead, we got a double whammy of disappointment - a city greatly lacking in-depth immersion and interaction, and a countryside and wilderness that largely empty and useless.
You may not enjoy the countryside in GTAV but I do. There are so many fun things you can do outside of the city. Things that are not possible in LS. Adds a lot to the gameplay. It is far from empty and useless in my opinion.
Having a more immersive and engaging city is nice and all but you can't convince me that Liberty City felt livelier or more detailed than Los Santos. I do agree that Rockstar could add all the things you mentioned to make the city better but honestly I would not trade the countryside for that. I hope that Rockstar will do both in the next GTA. You guys happy, I'm happy
Maybe you should read my earlier posts to understand me better on this subject. I do like having the countryside and wilderness in V, it looks beautifully detailed, and it is always nice to have a drastic change of scenery in an open world, free roam game like GTA. I respect you happen to find fun things to do in V's countryside and wilderness, but I'm still gonna say I fail to see what you can do there that's so much fun and interesting. I'm not talking about the silly, mundane stuff that involves casual messing around. I'm talking about things to do that have substance and meaningfulness. You may be right on one thing - there is not much to do in LS anyway, so if you claim that there is a lot of stuff to do outside of LS not possible to do in LS, then I can believe that.
To me, I just think the countryside and wilderness was largely empty and useless where fun and interesting things to see and do are concerned, Aside from seeing animals (which of there is still not enough), I cannot see much what else is there. A few random events dotted here and there, that's pretty much it. Not enough decent side activities to do with crime that could be integrated into it, to make it more fun and interesting - like some cross-border stuff, drug trafficking, human and contraband smuggling etc, not that lame drop the box from a plane stuff that Trevor did for arms trafficking. Doing some vigilante missions where you go into remote places and deal with crazed killers, psychos, and modern bandits in unlimited random events. Maybe even buy safehouse properties out in the countryside, buy and manage a farm estate and defend it from modern-day rustlers, ride horses, just more decent stuff. Sorry, I just think Rockstar made very little good use of the countryside and wilderness, and for most part it was a huge waste.
Relax, no one is trying to convince you or force you to agree with them, it's just a discussion, the essence of what a forum is for. Both LC and LS are more or less on an equal level when it comes to detail and liveliness on the streets, except that LS looks more polished simply because V is much newer than IV. However, LC just felt much more 'alive' because of the deeper levels of interaction and immersion provided by a decent number of interiors, something important which LS lacked. Combined with EFLC, LC wipes LS with the floor for feeling more alive and vibrant.