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Posted 23 January 2014 - 10:05 PM

No. Killing a historical figure who changed the course of the world because of selfish personal butthurt reasons is outright foolishness. You might as well assassinate Nero, King Leonidas and Elizabeth Báthory.

 

And, as others have said, most modern technology we have today is because of the Nazis.

 

The Nazis really don't get enough credit for their brilliant scientists and engineers they had.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 10:11 PM

No. Because then it would mean that the world right now would be dramatically different and I doubt it would be better than it is now. Without Hitler Stalin would've probably controlled most of Europe instead of only half of it.


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#63

Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:02 PM

This thread has got me thinking- can anyone think of a single historical figure whom the entire removal of from the annals of history would have a solely positive impact? 


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:08 PM

This thread has got me thinking- can anyone think of a single historical figure whom the entire removal of from the annals of history would have a solely positive impact? 

 

How about that guy who buggered a monkey and contracted AIDS.

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:13 PM Edited by DeafMetal, 23 January 2014 - 11:19 PM.

Would rather do Hawthorne in. That asshole ruined 10th grade English for me.

 

 

This thread has got me thinking- can anyone think of a single historical figure whom the entire removal of from the annals of history would have a solely positive impact? 

It's impossible to tell. Everything is connected if you think about it. It's like an infinite line of dominoes. I'd say no.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:16 PM

This thread has got me thinking- can anyone think of a single historical figure whom the entire removal of from the annals of history would have a solely positive impact? 

Jesus?

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:17 PM

This thread has got me thinking- can anyone think of a single historical figure whom the entire removal of from the annals of history would have a solely positive impact? 

 

There is no way to answer that question with any shred of credibility. It would just be pure speculation. What about Genghis Khan though? Or Caligula?


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:24 PM Edited by DeafMetal, 23 January 2014 - 11:24 PM.

 

This thread has got me thinking- can anyone think of a single historical figure whom the entire removal of from the annals of history would have a solely positive impact? 

 

There is no way to answer that question with any shred of credibility. It would just be pure speculation. What about Genghis Khan though? Or Caligula?

The problem with that is that they may have inspired something or someone that, whether directly or indirectly, inspired someone or something to do something positive. For example, killing Ghengis Khan would erase a really large chapter of history... and you'd likely be killing off millions of other people (via all the kids he fathered) who are very likely to be good people. There's good and bad in everything.

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:26 PM

 

The problem with that is that they may have inspired something or someone that, whether directly or indirectly, inspired someone or something to do something positive. For example, killing Ghengis Khan would erase a really large chapter of history... and you'd likely be killing off millions of other people (via all the kids he fathered) who are very likely to be good people. There's good and bad in everything.

 

 

You would have also saved the innocent victims though, not only from his own conquests, but from those of his sons. You'd probably save more than you would kill by erasing his bloodline.

 

But still it is a silly argument to have because it is entirely speculative. There could have been a worse guy there that would have taken over if he never existed. Who knows.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:31 PM

 

This thread has got me thinking- can anyone think of a single historical figure whom the entire removal of from the annals of history would have a solely positive impact? 

Jesus?

 

he said historical figure.

not legend.

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:32 PM

 

 

Jesus?

 

 

he said historical figure.

not legend.

 

There was a guy that existed. That much is widely accepted by most scholars. Everything else is up for interpretation.

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:34 PM

I probably wouldn't. Think about it, if Hitler gets killed as a child, what if Hitler's DAD blames his son's death on the Jews and continues history as it should?


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:38 PM Edited by DeafMetal, 23 January 2014 - 11:38 PM.

What if we bring Hitler back to the future, and he becomes a stereotypical Millennial? Throw him to Liberal Arts General Studies degree and $40k debt, give him a bong, slide him an xbox.


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:39 PM

I think I've developed a hemorroid while reading this Hitler debate

It wasn't this thread that gave you hemorrhoids, it was the Icehouse beer. :D

Lmao.. probably right.
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Posted 23 January 2014 - 11:43 PM

I don't think enough people are aware of the butterfly effect. One thing changes; everything changes. If Hitler didn't do what he did, you might not even be here in this world. If Hitler never did what he did, you might not even have met some of the people who mean a whole lot to you, the people you're grateful for.

 

I'm not commending Hitler for what he did. I'm just saying great things come as a result of bad things thanks to the butterfly effect.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 12:02 AM

can anyone think of a single historical figure whom the entire removal of from the annals of history would have a solely positive impact? 

Easy. Mussolini. Spirali pasta would've had more spirals had he succeeded.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 12:35 AM

This thread has got me thinking- can anyone think of a single historical figure whom the entire removal of from the annals of history would have a solely positive impact? 

Emperor Constantine.


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 01:37 AM

 

This thread has got me thinking- can anyone think of a single historical figure whom the entire removal of from the annals of history would have a solely positive impact? 

Jesus?

 

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 02:04 AM

This thread has got me thinking- can anyone think of a single historical figure whom the entire removal of from the annals of history would have a solely positive impact?

Jesus?

This derailment of the topic goes unnoticed?
Anyway, Jesus Christ would be the one 'person' (if not a person the idea) would be the most significant deletion in all the worlds history. Think of it, no inquisition, no KKK, et al.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 02:19 AM

Nope, While it Brought bad sh*t, WWII brought some pretty amazing Technological advancements, Jets, Nuclear Science, etc...

 

I don't think I'd feel right robbing the current world of such discoveries.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 03:15 AM

What if we bring Hitler back to the future, and he becomes a stereotypical Millennial? Throw him to Liberal Arts General Studies degree and $40k debt, give him a bong, slide him an xbox.

 

I think you mean Hipster Hitler.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 05:00 AM

There was a guy that existed. That much is widely accepted by most scholars.

in all likelihood he just suffered from a rare case of extreme schizophrenia (impossible to diagnose at the time) combined with incredible public speaking ability and impenetrable self-confidence (possibly amplified by the schizo delusions). next thing you know he's got a hooker and an eclectic group of hippies following him around the desert telling everyone that he's the father of the universe and the one-true religion.

 

if Jesus existed today, his demeanor would be indistinguishable from Charles Manson....

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 05:13 AM

 

There was a guy that existed. That much is widely accepted by most scholars.

in all likelihood he just suffered from a rare case of extreme schizophrenia (impossible to diagnose at the time) combined with incredible public speaking ability and impenetrable self-confidence (possibly amplified by the schizo delusions). next thing you know he's got a hooker and an eclectic group of hippies following him around the desert telling everyone that he's the father of the universe and the one-true religion.

 

if Jesus existed today, his demeanor would be indistinguishable from Charles Manson....

 

 

Well no, Jesus went around feeding the poor and tending to the sick. I'm not sure Sharon Tate would agree to the comparison.


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 05:18 AM

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If only people on the internet would stop trying to be edgy for once.

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Posted 24 January 2014 - 05:45 AM

Nah. I don't think I could kill a kid. Not because of the paradox stuff everyone always brings up when this topic comes up, but because killing children is the most awful thing, and I don't want to be directly responsible for any children's deaths.

 

If I had a chance to meet Hitler as a kid I'd give him some anti-german propaganda or something; convince him that Germany isn't worth living in.


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 06:33 AM

Why not go back and kill Caesar instead and prevent the Roman Republic from collapsing into the Roman Empire?

 

Why not kill Charlemagne and let the Moors roam Francia?

 

Why not kill Christian IV and let Denmark keep Skåne, Halland and Blekinge?

 

Why not kill Louis XVI and hope for a better king to prevent the French Revolution?

 

Speaking of which, why not George III?

 

And if we are going to talk about Hitler, why not kill Bismarck to prevent the unification of Germany which set the pieces in place for the First World War, which led to the Second World War.

 

Why not Napoleon for that matter?

 

There are so many more interesting choices to kill, all of which would prevent Hitler from becoming relevant.  And monarchies would control the world to this day.

 

Why is there always someone that replies in more sh*tty rhetorical questions?

 

And I probably would to see what kind of paradox would happen, then I'd prevent myself from doing it unless it actually benefits myself.
 


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 06:45 AM

Why kill him as a child? That would be very suspicious to the local authorities. Have him die when he was fighting in WW1, then nobody will bat an eyelid at his death.


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 07:34 AM

Killing him as a child doesn't work out too well, or at least it doesn't in my gamebook kickstarter.com/projects/376100657/killing-hitler-with-praise-an-fire-choose-your-own


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 08:23 AM

Who Wouldn't go back in time and kill Hitler if they had the chance?  Gimme a break.....

 

No. Killing a historical figure who changed the course of the world because of selfish personal butthurt reasons is outright foolishness. You might as well assassinate Nero, King Leonidas and Elizabeth Báthory.

 

And, as others have said, most modern technology we have today is because of the Nazis.

 

The Nazis really don't get enough credit for their brilliant scientists and engineers they had.

 

Yeah, the brilliant scientists and engineers that for the most part wanted NOTHING to do with Nazism.  How many brilliant men and women were put to death by Nazism merely because of their race?  

 

Also, let's not forget about Robert Goddard, an american, and TRUE inventor of rocket science.  


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 08:35 AM

This thread has got me thinking- can anyone think of a single historical figure whom the entire removal of from the annals of history would have a solely positive impact? 

I can think of two.

 

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