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Posted 03 January 2014 - 10:50 PM

I think he wasn't emotionless, I think he just doesn't let his emotions show up. We don't know anything about his childhood, I think maybe he had a pretty sad youth. The main proof he was actually very emotional is the storyline!!

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If he was so emotionless, he couldn't care less for it. He also feels weird in some 'weird' parts of the storyline, like when Ray is making 'poop' and in mission Smackdown when Kenji came angry towards him. I would love to know more about Claude's backstory, I think he must have a pretty sad childhood, that's why he doesn't talk and he seems emotionless. :cry:

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 11:08 PM Edited by GTAKid667, 03 January 2014 - 11:25 PM.

I have to agree with you Cida in that Claude does have emotions but doesn't let them show up. I think that cutscene you mentioned with Kenji does prove that as you can tell he feels a lot different then :pp


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Posted 03 January 2014 - 11:14 PM

I agree with cidamelo. I do believe that Claude had a pretty sad childhood. Things probably happened that still affect him. It would be nice to know more about how his previous life was.

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Posted 03 January 2014 - 11:47 PM

It would be nice to know more about how his previous life was.

Perhaps both his parents were mutes who slapped Claude to express their proudness and hit Claude to express their disappointment?


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Posted 04 January 2014 - 12:07 AM


It would be nice to know more about how his previous life was.

Perhaps both his parents were mutes who slapped Claude to express their proudness and hit Claude to express their disappointment?
I'm thinking that he was abused as a child. Now, after all those years of being pushed around, he takes no sh*t. Doesn't let anyone get in his way.

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 12:07 AM

My son has a friend who, when he and my son have started college, didn't speak to anyone and didn't show emotion... but my son has became friend of him, and discovered that he was like this because he was an orphan who had a pretty sad childhood... I guess this is a form of defense, and that in Claude's mind there are a lot of emotions, but he keeps them quiet. I bet most of us GTA fans would love to know more about Claude!!


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Posted 04 January 2014 - 12:09 AM Edited by GtaIvFanboy, 04 January 2014 - 01:59 AM.

Claude Grew Up In France his Mother was A French Street Hooker with Webbed toes his Father was a psychotic French Farmer who used to hit Claude with a Yardstick if he made a mistake playing the piano between the ages of 8-12 his Parents took claude to a pitch black basement and tied him to a chair for 10 hrs a day with no food or Drink  they also did not allow him to speak they would burn his back with a cigarette if he did  his mother died of aids when he was just 13 years old his father and him then moved to the United States his father abused him up until the age of 17 Claude then Killed Him his first Killing he then went from scared little boy to an Incredible Mute Killer   that's why he is mute and why he  is an Emotionless Killer. 

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Posted 04 January 2014 - 12:37 AM

I think he seems French too GtaIvFanboy! He is as charming as the french men!! I guess he had a pretty rough youth, and when he finds a lover, Catalina (who never has loved him, she just wanted to make CJ jealous), she traits him :cry:


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Posted 05 January 2014 - 10:09 AM

Claude does have emotions the story shows that just hard to understand cause he never speaks. So i agree.

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Posted 05 January 2014 - 04:31 PM

Cakelover21 and I think if the game was in today's graphics, we could see some emotion in his face :catspider:

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Posted 18 January 2014 - 11:55 AM

All these sayings that Claude was most likely abused as a child make me think that someone should really put him out of his misery.


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Posted 18 January 2014 - 08:19 PM

Cakelover21 and I think if the game was in today's graphics, we could see some emotion in his face :catspider:

Do you really think so? I'm not too sure about that - The Character of Claude is meant to be a silent killer that we don't know much about except for the fact he has been betrayed and wants revenge. I think that showing emotion on his face would take away some of these aspects.

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Posted 23 January 2014 - 02:50 PM

Claude Grew Up In France his Mother was A French Street Hooker with Webbed toes his Father was a psychotic French Farmer who used to hit Claude with a Yardstick if he made a mistake playing the piano between the ages of 8-12 his Parents took claude to a pitch black basement and tied him to a chair for 10 hrs a day with no food or Drink  they also did not allow him to speak they would burn his back with a cigarette if he did  his mother died of aids when he was just 13 years old his father and him then moved to the United States his father abused him up until the age of 17 Claude then Killed Him his first Killing he then went from scared little boy to an Incredible Mute Killer   that's why he is mute and why he  is an Emotionless Killer. 

where did you get this information?


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Posted 23 January 2014 - 04:19 PM

 

Claude Grew Up In France his Mother was A French Street Hooker with Webbed toes his Father was a psychotic French Farmer who used to hit Claude with a Yardstick if he made a mistake playing the piano between the ages of 8-12 his Parents took claude to a pitch black basement and tied him to a chair for 10 hrs a day with no food or Drink  they also did not allow him to speak they would burn his back with a cigarette if he did  his mother died of aids when he was just 13 years old his father and him then moved to the United States his father abused him up until the age of 17 Claude then Killed Him his first Killing he then went from scared little boy to an Incredible Mute Killer   that's why he is mute and why he  is an Emotionless Killer. 

where did you get this information?

 

He's making it up, It's not official ;)


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Posted 24 January 2014 - 11:28 PM

Claude is very loyal, does what he does for his Job. Hell, he would explode an entire Solar System, IF HE GETS PAID. Thats what I love about him.. he grew up in the streets of San Fierro, looking at him at the events of GTA SA. At that time, he was only 19 years old. His background is proabably like this

 

Growing up in a very poor environment, dad, a sick man, abusing him, his mother, a stripper, his life was broken... He did what he did to escape it. Have his own adventure, make money on his own in an non organized criminal life. 


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 07:59 AM

This is a pretty stupid thread. He doesn't talk. At all. He has the personality of a log. We don't know a think about what's going through his head, he's just a face for the player to move about in. 

 

That doesn't mean he's a bad protagonist. I enjoyed him, his silent nature was surprisingly fitting for the majority of the game. But asking 'do you think he was an emotionless person' is ridiculous.


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Posted 25 January 2014 - 08:48 AM

This is a pretty stupid thread. He doesn't talk. At all. He has the personality of a log. We don't know a think about what's going through his head, he's just a face for the player to move about in. 

 

That doesn't mean he's a bad protagonist. I enjoyed him, his silent nature was surprisingly fitting for the majority of the game. But asking 'do you think he was an emotionless person' is ridiculous.

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 10:59 AM

Claude is very loyal, does what he does for his Job. Hell, he would explode an entire Solar System, IF HE GETS PAID. Thats what I love about him.. he grew up in the streets of San Fierro, looking at him at the events of GTA SA. At that time, he was only 19 years old. His background is proabably like this

 

Growing up in a very poor environment, dad, a sick man, abusing him, his mother, a stripper, his life was broken... He did what he did to escape it. Have his own adventure, make money on his own in an non organized criminal life. 

He isn't loyal at all, he betrayed Kenji for no reason at all for example!


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 03:00 AM

Silent Dogwood I don't think that just because he doesn't talk he can't express his feeling... Like I've said, in some missions we can 'see' some emotions coming from him :panic:


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Posted 26 January 2014 - 12:54 PM

 

Claude is very loyal, does what he does for his Job. Hell, he would explode an entire Solar System, IF HE GETS PAID. Thats what I love about him.. he grew up in the streets of San Fierro, looking at him at the events of GTA SA. At that time, he was only 19 years old. His background is proabably like this

 

Growing up in a very poor environment, dad, a sick man, abusing him, his mother, a stripper, his life was broken... He did what he did to escape it. Have his own adventure, make money on his own in an non organized criminal life. 

He isn't loyal at all, he betrayed Kenji for no reason at all for example!

 

Yeah he did it for the money. Donald wanted it, and Claude did it. I am pretty sure if someone told him to assasinate Donald, he would have done it. He is very loyal, if the price is right. 


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 01:39 AM

 

Claude is very loyal, does what he does for his Job. Hell, he would explode an entire Solar System, IF HE GETS PAID. Thats what I love about him.. he grew up in the streets of San Fierro, looking at him at the events of GTA SA. At that time, he was only 19 years old. His background is proabably like this

 

Growing up in a very poor environment, dad, a sick man, abusing him, his mother, a stripper, his life was broken... He did what he did to escape it. Have his own adventure, make money on his own in an non organized criminal life. 

He isn't loyal at all, he betrayed Kenji for no reason at all for example!

 

 

Kenji was an ungrateful waste of skin. He looks down on Claude for his race, and blames him for the Cartel joining with the Jamaicans even though the damn thing was his idea in the first place, and it was his own dumbass man who blew their cover. Claude probably would've done it anyway, but I wouldn't say he had no reason.


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Posted 27 January 2014 - 02:00 AM

Let's see if I can construct a personality for Claude based on what's presented in the game.

 

As we all know, he'll flip off cars honking at him. So he's not just a hitman, he's probably kind of a rude **** too.

 

He'll bow to Kenji at the start of most of their cutscenes. I imagine he's not too concerned with etiquette, but he at least knows how to make niceties when necessary.

 

I imagine he's all business, and not too concerned with long term loyalty. But perhaps not. He doesn't screw over the mafia until they screw him over. He'll fight the Diablos a few times after working for El Burro, but he only did a few jobs for him. El Burro never really did anything personal for him. The big betrayal is Kenji and the Yakuza, although as mentioned that may just be because Kenji was a jerk to him. If anything, it's more of an indirect betrayal of Asuka.

 

I imagine that even if he isn't emotionless, he's probably a cold mofo nonetheless. I doubt he gets too attached, since at the end of the game he shoots Maria just for being annoying. I know some of you are probably saying "But R* never confirmed that"....C'mon guys. Remember what kind of game this is. We all know what happened there, we don't have to pretend it's actually ambiguous.


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Posted 28 January 2014 - 09:43 PM Edited by Loxley, 28 January 2014 - 09:51 PM.

Claude is a sociopath that has deep mental issues. His deadpan face hides a demon that was forged from a miserable past full of pain.

 

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Posted 31 January 2014 - 06:09 AM

Basically we were never ment to know Claude's name, he was just an avatar,until the community found out about his name while looking at the files then R decided to give him a little bit more of backstory about how C met C.


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Posted 03 February 2014 - 04:54 PM

We can never be sure about emotions. But, we do see him having feelings towards Maria. Even, we didn't know the whole story about him and Catalina, till San Andreas was released.


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Posted 03 February 2014 - 06:50 PM

I'd say for the most part that Claude was emotionless but he did have feelings for Catalina I believe. I do wish that R* would create more of a backstory for Claude so we learn how he became a mute etc as we know what he was doing during SA till the events of III but not anything before SA unfortunatley.


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Posted 07 February 2014 - 07:50 PM

Claude just has nothing to say.


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Posted 08 February 2014 - 09:24 AM

Claude just has nothing to say.

While it still is a pretty good hypothesis, people will still argue that nobody will have nothing to say over the time period we control him.

We play as him through every mission, every day of free roam yet all we ever hear of him is the sounds he makes when falling to his death - To many, that wouldn't seem like he just doesn't want to talk.


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Posted 11 February 2014 - 10:13 PM

Claude is mysterious, and I wouldn't accept him any other way. 


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Posted 14 February 2014 - 11:38 AM

Let's see if I can construct a personality for Claude based on what's presented in the game.

 

As we all know, he'll flip off cars honking at him. So he's not just a hitman, he's probably kind of a rude **** too.

 

He'll bow to Kenji at the start of most of their cutscenes. I imagine he's not too concerned with etiquette, but he at least knows how to make niceties when necessary.

 

I imagine he's all business, and not too concerned with long term loyalty. But perhaps not. He doesn't screw over the mafia until they screw him over. He'll fight the Diablos a few times after working for El Burro, but he only did a few jobs for him. El Burro never really did anything personal for him. The big betrayal is Kenji and the Yakuza, although as mentioned that may just be because Kenji was a jerk to him. If anything, it's more of an indirect betrayal of Asuka.

 

I imagine that even if he isn't emotionless, he's probably a cold mofo nonetheless. I doubt he gets too attached, since at the end of the game he shoots Maria just for being annoying. I know some of you are probably saying "But R* never confirmed that"....C'mon guys. Remember what kind of game this is. We all know what happened there, we don't have to pretend it's actually ambiguous.

 

At the end of SAM he steps over Asuka's dead body quite cooly, not a flicker of guilt, emotion... anything. Utter cold determination as he goes off to rescue Maria... or just to kill Catalina. I know Catalina's note refers to her as "your precious Maria" but we don't know how he sees Maria, that's just how Catalina interpreted it, possibly from what Maria would have said.

 

I've never quite worked out the relationship between Claude and Maria, she tries to get him killed by the mafia by telling her husband, the Don no less, that she's having a fling with him, then she goes off and has some ... I've always assumed some sort of S&M session with Asuka, then she vanishes, and when she reappears she's all "hey baby". We know from Chatterbox Maria sees Claude as her boyfriend but I know I wouldn't be too keen if I was in his shoes  :die:





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