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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:17 PM

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:22 PM

It's ok. He is obviously a nighttime showerer who doesn't wash his sheets and he was feeling singled out. I understand. It was still not necessary to have a total tantrum over it though, it is just a simple question and I was hoping to spur a discussion so I could better understand the reasoning behind peoples bathing habits. I didn't mean to cause a mental breakdown.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:22 PM Edited by Audiophile, 28 December 2013 - 06:24 PM.

Oh I'm not raging, that's just how I post when I come across threads or posts I think are foolish and people who make judgements.

 

If you had simply posted a question out of curiosity, ok. But it's the fact that you're making assumptions and sitting in here saying "if you don't do this, you are filthy".

 

If that's not how you mean to come across, it is how you are coming across.

 

People have different reasons for what time they shower, not showering in the morning does not make them filthy. I would think regular upkeep of PJ's/whatever people sleep in and bed sheets would be part of that. I don't think people who care about their hygiene would be sleeping in month old bed sheets.

 

In your OP you basically insinuated - if not outright said - that those who do not shower in the morning are not clean or hygienic so how could they feel as such.

 

EDIT: Ah I see while I was posting my reply we had comedy and your response above is exactly that, assumptions because I hurt your feelings?

 

Don't be so vain as to think you caused a "mental breakdown".


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:23 PM Edited by Panz, 28 December 2013 - 06:26 PM.

Eh, I think theadmiral made the thread just for the sake of a new topic of discussion. There's no harm in that.

 

Showers do raise your heart rate, and it's supposed to make it more difficult to sleep directly after.  So really, it's not the best idea to shower at night. But, a lot of us feel relaxed after, so it really depends on the person.  

 

Edit: Also to the theadmiral. I totally don't understand the dirty sheet thing, though. Your sheets are going to be dirty whether you sleep on them in the morning or at night (unless you wash them daily for some reason).  If you wait to shower until the morning, aren't you just making them dirtier by laying your unclean self down to bed after a long day? Similarly, if you shower at night, you're sleeping on sheets that aren't necessarily the cleanest, which, I guess in your opinion, defeats the purpose of the shower.  So it could go either way. I think that argument is null. 


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:23 PM Edited by theadmiral, 28 December 2013 - 06:25 PM.

 

 

In your OP you basically insinuated - if not outright said - that those who do not shower in the morning are not clean or hygienic so how could they feel as such.

It is factual that those who go to sleep , wake up, do not shower, and spend the day that way are less clean during the day than those that do shower in the morning. What is the problem?

 

Audiophile, if you want a fight, you've got the wrong person. Try the GTAO forum or better yet go have a cup of tea and calm down.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:26 PM

 

 

 

In your OP you basically insinuated - if not outright said - that those who do not shower in the morning are not clean or hygienic so how could they feel as such.

It is factual that those who go to sleep , wake up, do not shower, and spend the day that way are less clean during the day than those that do shower in the morning. What is the problem?

 

 

The problem is the people who do shower at night are not, as you said, unhygienic or unclean. There is a difference between being slightly less clean than someone and completely unhygienic in comparison.

 

If you are curious, ask, there is nothing wrong with that.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:28 PM

 

 

The problem is the people who do shower at night are not, as you said, unhygienic or unclean. There is a difference between being slightly less clean than someone and completely unhygienic in comparison.

 

If you are curious, ask, there is nothing wrong with that.

 

They are less clean during the day than someone who showers in the morning. Please go reread my OP and stop putting words in my mouth and creating offensive comments where none were made.

 

I'm not sure why a factual statement is making you so uncomfortable and causing such an overreaction but it is really not needed.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:39 PM

Why does it even matter how clean we are?  There's barely a difference, and surely not a noticeable one.  Can you go around and tell me which people have showered at night and which in the morning? 

 

If people are so concerned with being as clean as possible, maybe for a big event, then they'll take a shower before it. Otherwise, our level of "cleanliness" surely doesn't matter unless we work a dirty job or something of the sort.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:42 PM

Your level of cleanliness doesn't matter to me. It is definitely noticeable in many cases, however, and I do not understand why you would tolerate a drop off in cleanliness unless you simply do not care about your presentation and how others perceive you. Not that anything is wrong with that.

 

I was more looking to be enlightened about why someone would choose the nighttime method (in lieu of daytime, or both) rather than condemning those who do it. I really do not care how dirty you all are or who is more clean than whom, but it is obviously causing discomfort to some to hear a factual statement that showering at night and not in the morning leads to you being dirtier during the day than someone who showers in the morning. I'm not sure why. It is like getting in a tantrum over someone telling you the sky is blue.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:45 PM Edited by Audiophile, 28 December 2013 - 06:47 PM.

Overreaction? Have I not been responding politely to you and asking valid questions?

 

I'm so sorry I hurt your feelings with my first post and as a result you cannot have a normal conversation now that I am replying to you politely as you wanted. You clearly can't accept someone having a different opinion from you, what is so hard to understand that not everyone showers in the morning and that doesn't make them any less compared to you or anyone else who does.

 

For example, I couldn't care less that you shower in the morning, or anyone else for that matter. I couldn't care less who showers at night, who showers twice a day. Why do you?

 

 

and then feel as if they are a clean and hygienic person when they wake up in the morning

 

Suggesting although they feel clean and hygienic, they are not?

 

As for fact, well if it's a dead fact then provide us all with some research and some statistics to back this up. You're going to get dirty either way whether you shower at night or in the morning. I believe Panz already made that point.

 

I am not looking for an argument, I just think it's foolish to make judgments like that and as foolish as I have found your last few replies, I have toned mine down from my first one yet you continue to go on slinging all these insults "he doesn't wash his sheets, he showers at night" etc.

 

I shower at night because I have to wake up at 5 a.m. to go to university and listen to my law professors rant on and on for hours. It takes me 2 hours to go there and back. I wash my sheets every weekend,and have several sets which I use. I don't sleep naked but in PJ's, which I also wash and have several sets of. I consider myself a clean person, yet you sit here and tell me that myself and others are not as clean or less than simply because we shower at night rather than in the morning?

 

There's so much that goes into good hygiene that goes beyond just showering.

 

EDIT: I was posting this as you were posting. Here's the thing, you claim not to care and just want to know out of curiosity but the way that you are making generalizations and what you are saying is doing the opposite. Clearly it's not just me who thinks that if other people in this thread felt the same way.

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:45 PM

Bathrooms aren't the cleanest places on earth either. The mold, mildew, calcium and rust build-up's.. not to mention the layer of funk that's caked onto the walls of your tub and shower walls.. or the fluids (if ya know what I mean). Best to keep that clean! So the way I see it.. them sheets and covers aren't the only thing you need worrying about.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:50 PM

@Audiophile - I like the way you took that out of context and left out that the entire op was prefaced with "I've never understood why", which makes it clear to anyone with an understanding of the English language that I am looking to be enlightened rather than accusing.

 

I know you are trying to make up for your totally unnecessary profanity laced tirade, but you should really just stop at this point. You are clearly distressed and raged up and it is not good for your health to behave in such a manner.

 

If you think i'm going to go find statistics and have a debate over it, you are absolutely out of your mind. Keep yelling and posting your rants, though. Eventually you will get it out of your system and then will be able to enjoy the rest of your day (which obviously got off to a bad start somehow).


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:52 PM Edited by Panz, 28 December 2013 - 06:53 PM.

Your level of cleanliness doesn't matter to me. It is definitely noticeable in many cases, however, and I do not understand why you would tolerate a drop off in cleanliness unless you simply do not care about your presentation and how others perceive you. Not that anything is wrong with that.

 

I was more looking to be enlightened about why someone would choose the nighttime method (in lieu of daytime, or both) rather than condemning those who do it. I really do not care how dirty you all are or who is more clean than whom, but it is obviously causing discomfort to some to hear a factual statement that showering at night and not in the morning leads to you being dirtier during the day than someone who showers in the morning. I'm not sure why. It is like getting in a tantrum over someone telling you the sky is blue.

Those are some pretty bold and ridiculous statements you've got there. Care to share your sources?

 

Really? You can tell the difference? Cool superpower you've got there. I could take a bunch of pictures of myself during the day after showering the night before and after showering in the morning, and I'm pretty positive you wouldn't be able to tell which is which. 

 

If you think i'm going to go find statistics and have a debate over it, you are absolutely out of your mind. 

Then your arguments are completely void. 

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:58 PM Edited by Audiophile, 28 December 2013 - 06:59 PM.

I asked you to find statistics and back your view up since you consider it fact and keep shoving it as such. I don't have the time to do that, nor do I care, as I stated when someone showers. I suspect you don't have the time either, that or you know you can't provide anything.

 

You clearly have no valid points to reply with, that's why you continue to respond with childish insults like I am raging and distressed.

 

If you think someone on the internet has the power to make anyone distressed, raged, in the middle of a mental breakdown then I believe it's you who is absolutely out of your mind.

 

If you want to respond to this then PM me. I see no further reason to derail this topic or even to continue this actually since you can't make any valid points in your response, just fling personal insults.

 

Last resort in any argument, if you can't post anything valid to back up your opinion, resort to insulting the poster!

@Panz

 

Thank you. I am glad I am not the only one who thinks OP needs some reading comprehension of their own and whose arguments are void because they can't even provide facts to back them up. Just fling insults and make generalizations.

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:58 PM Edited by theadmiral, 28 December 2013 - 06:59 PM.

There is no argument. This isn't supposed to be an argument. There is no debate. I was just looking to hear about the merits of either method and invited posters to post their bathing habits in general.

 

Oh the irony of telling me i'm childish when I asked an intelligent question and you posted a wall of text profanity laced tirade. Grow up. I haven't insulted you once, unlike your ridiculous tantrum / tirade.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:58 PM

When I am working a really labor intensive job (as in doing actual work, like lifting a few dozen 50lb doors up three storeys), and I have to wake up at 5am to get to wherever the job is, I have a choice. Go to sleep covered in dirt or take a shower when I get home. On top of that, do I wake up 15 minutes earlier, or get 15 minutes more of sleep. Awake and sober you might say wake up earlier, but at 4:45am you'd probably say 15 more minutes.

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 06:58 PM

Can we just agree that all that matters is that you do shower and that you don't scare people away with your bodily odors as common courtesy! :D Well, I guess technically there are more important things that matter,but theadmiral has gotten their answers as to why people chose to shower at night or morning and it's really stupid for this to be dragged on. 


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 07:00 PM

Snooze button, darth.. make it more than 15mins.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 07:01 PM

There is no argument. This isn't supposed to be an argument. There is no debate. I was just looking to hear about the merits of either method and invited posters to post their bathing habits in general.

 

Oh the irony of telling me i'm childish when I asked an intelligent question and you posted a wall of text profanity laced tirade. Grow up. I haven't insulted you once, unlike your ridiculous tantrum / tirade.

 

Asking people when they shower is intelligent? Yup. World changing stuff, right there!

 

Also I provided an answer to your question in my post. You ignored it and continued to cry/fling personal insults. I will post it again to get back on topic:

 

 

I shower at night because I have to wake up at 5 a.m. to go to university and listen to my law professors rant on and on for hours. It takes me 2 hours to go there and back. I wash my sheets every weekend,and have several sets which I use. I don't sleep naked but in PJ's, which I also wash and have several sets of. I consider myself a clean person, yet you sit here and tell me that myself and others are not as clean or less than simply because we shower at night rather than in the morning?


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 07:02 PM

I shower at night usually. I do this because at work, I'm in a laboratory all day dealing with mud samples/clay samples/concrete and it gets pretty messy sometimes. So its nice to come home from work, take a shower then spend the rest of the evening in my PJ's or dossing clothes. Plus it gives me time to dry my hair and just relax.

 

Its really awkward to shower in the morning for me, I get up at about 6am and leave for about 6:45 so I'd have to get up mega early just to fit in a shower that then takes another 30 minutes to get ready after. Its not worth it.

 

As for the sheets argument, they are going to get ''dirty'' whenever you sleep in them. However, washing them every week or so really isn't going to be a big factor in when you shower. To be honest I don't understand people who feel the need to shower 2/3 times a day if they aren't doing any physical work. Seems like a waste of water to me.

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 07:02 PM

You said you were done here and you are still posting rage filled responses that stem from you being upset that you were called on your profanity laced tirade that turned this from a civil discussion into the childish fight that you were going for. Just an observation.

 

Can we move on now , since Audiophile's tantrum has run it's course? Let's get back to the point of this topic.

 

As I said I prefer to shower in the morning for work, and then again in the evening since I go for a run at night.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 07:06 PM Edited by Triple Vacuum Seal, 28 December 2013 - 07:10 PM.

Once again, I can't tell if the OP is trolling or just ignorant.

 

The whole point of showering at night (which I have been raised to do my entire life) is to keep your bed clean.  Sleeping in you and other's griminess for one third of your life, in a highly absorbant material (cotton), and in an era of bedbug outbreaks is hygienic to you?   Night showering also enables us who are actually busy and pressed for sleep to get an extra half hour of sleep.

 

You sound manic going to such hypocritical lengths just to that assert your procedure is better.  In fact, it's ironic seeing such irrationality and stubbornness from someone who characterizes themselves as an Admiral.  What a disgrace.  Get a life OP.

 

 

 

*Most of my white friends used to think I was crazy as a kid for taking showers at night though.  So I definitely acknowledge that it's an uncommon practice.  I noticed different cultures shower at different times.

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Posted 28 December 2013 - 07:10 PM

You said you were done here and you are still posting rage filled responses that stem from you being upset that you were called on your profanity laced tirade that turned this from a civil discussion into the childish fight that you were going for. Just an observation.

 

Can we move on now , since Audiophile's tantrum has run it's course? Let's get back to the point of this topic.

 

As I said I prefer to shower in the morning for work, and then again in the evening since I go for a run at night.

Lol you have been crying for the past 5 of your posts now that Audiophile has been throwing a tantrum, when he's been replying to you politely. Also bro, relax, his first post is just how he posts when he comes across a stupid OP, which yours is and you are making judgements. Everyone can see yet you hide it. When you've been here around as long as some of us have, you will know that. I wasn't aware you could see someone through a PC screen, bro. You call him childish and throwing a tantrum when you can't leave it alone for even one post without insulting him. You're the one that looks like a child. You can't even back up your own points. Did you even read any of his responses, any of Panz's? Do you even have any reading comprehension yourself? You had several opportunities to get things back on topic yet you took the childish route to insult a poster then cry when he responded back, politely and actually backed up his points. I need you need to get off the PC, drink some tea, take a Xanax and just calm down. Shhhh no more tears....just dreams now.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 07:11 PM

Again, please reread the OP. I just said I did not understand the rationale for nighttime showering, when not combined with daytime showering, and now several reasons have been explained:

 

Extra sleep

Lack of time

Waiting for hair to dry

 

I am beginning to understand. It is not a fight or a debate and it is no different than someone preferring apples to oranges. Of course I like my procedure, that is why I do it. I was hoping to facilitate discussion and understanding of other peoples procedures.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 07:13 PM

I'm not quite sure why you needed to be ''explained'' as to why people prefer showering at night. Common sense would prevail as to why they do, surely?


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 07:14 PM Edited by theadmiral, 28 December 2013 - 07:15 PM.

I'm not quite sure why you needed to be ''explained'' as to why people prefer showering at night. Common sense would prevail as to why they do, surely?

 

Not really. I was always raised to get up early, make my bed immediately, and take a shower before doing anything else. Perhaps the habit just stuck with me and I assumed it was SOP.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 07:16 PM

Admiral, it's best just to quit replying to it honestly. Instead, wait awhile for members to chime in on the question at hand or let the topic die in peace. ;)


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 07:17 PM

You are probably right, i'm just not sure why so many people are irritated by the OP and seem offended by it. To me it was just an innocent question.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 07:17 PM

 

I'm not quite sure why you needed to be ''explained'' as to why people prefer showering at night. Common sense would prevail as to why they do, surely?

 

Not really. I was always raised to get up early, make my bed immediately, and take a shower before doing anything else. Perhaps the habit just stuck with me and I assumed it was SOP.

 

 

So you're telling me you had no previous common sense as to why people would prefer to shower at night rather than first thing in the morning? I mean, just because you were raised that way wouldn't mean that you wouldn't know people shower at different times?

 

I mean, I f*cking love having an extra hour in bed because I decide to shower in the evening.

 

Oh also, I'm just putting it out there - making my bed is also one of the many things I do when I wake up. Makes coming home to it a lot more exciting haha.


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Posted 28 December 2013 - 07:20 PM

 

 

 

 

So you're telling me you had no previous common sense as to why people would prefer to shower at night rather than first thing in the morning? I mean, just because you were raised that way wouldn't mean that you wouldn't know people shower at different times?

 

I mean, I f*cking love having an extra hour in bed because I decide to shower in the evening.

 

Oh also, I'm just putting it out there - making my bed is also one of the many things I do when I wake up. Makes coming home to it a lot more exciting haha.

 

 

No, I didn't. I get up at 5 every day, even on the weekend, and taking a shower is as much a part of my routine as brushing my teeth, making the bed, and having a cup of coffee. Hitting snooze is not something I do, sleeping in is not something I do, and I am distracted all day in the event that I have to walk around feeling dirty or like my hair is unclean. I'd rather skip breakfast than skip a morning shower if time is that much of an issue.

 

This world is amazing. Everyone has a different routine. Imagine that.





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