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Posted 30 December 2013 - 10:02 PM

I’ve thought about committing suicide sometimes or a few because of crazy voices in my head possibly from demons and their oppression. Thank god there are almost gone/gone. Is anybody experiencing this / experienced this? Some good answers would be appreciated.  :) Thank you.

Schizophrenia.


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:17 PM Edited by Marwin Moody, 30 December 2013 - 11:18 PM.

I’ve thought about committing suicide sometimes or a few because of crazy voices in my head possibly from demons and their oppression. Thank god there are almost gone/gone. Is anybody experiencing this / experienced this? Some good answers would be appreciated.  :) Thank you.

If you are serious you must seek proffesional help asap!

I know it seem scary to do so, but once you've taken that first step it feels as if a giant weight gets lifted off you


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Posted 30 December 2013 - 11:41 PM

Yeah, almost a year ago.
Imagine waking up in the morning & preparing to go to a school where no body accepts you. Where teachers bitch about your bad grades, then return home to find your parents disappointed in you.
Life sucked. I spent a lot of time at the DYOM forum. Where i felt accepted. But still the thoughts stay..

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 03:55 AM Edited by Dopeeey, 31 December 2013 - 03:56 AM.

 

I’ve thought about committing suicide sometimes or a few because of crazy voices in my head possibly from demons and their oppression. Thank god there are almost gone/gone. Is anybody experiencing this / experienced this? Some good answers would be appreciated.  :) Thank you.

If you are serious you must seek proffesional help asap!

I know it seem scary to do so, but once you've taken that first step it feels as if a giant weight gets lifted off you

 

You sure any other suggestions? Have you went through this yourself of known anybody else that went through this. Also if their are any Christians out their do you guys have any advice to get through demon oppression? Or does anybody else have any other tips?


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Posted 31 December 2013 - 09:16 AM

Never, life is valuable even in difficult times.


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Posted 31 December 2013 - 09:50 AM

Romeo & Juliet .. was their suicides justified or no?


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Posted 31 December 2013 - 10:10 AM

 

 

I’ve thought about committing suicide sometimes or a few because of crazy voices in my head possibly from demons and their oppression. Thank god there are almost gone/gone. Is anybody experiencing this / experienced this? Some good answers would be appreciated.  :) Thank you.

If you are serious you must seek proffesional help asap!

I know it seem scary to do so, but once you've taken that first step it feels as if a giant weight gets lifted off you

 

You sure any other suggestions? Have you went through this yourself of known anybody else that went through this. Also if their are any Christians out their do you guys have any advice to get through demon oppression? Or does anybody else have any other tips?

 

I'm speaking out of experience. I kept insisting on not seeing a psychiatrist, but when I finally did back in november, it really helped


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Posted 31 December 2013 - 10:33 AM

Can someone explain to me why people look down on suicide? It seems to be a good choice for someone who doesn't want to be in pain or be a burden to other people. Do explain to me how it makes you cowardly and it's a stupid choice. Please. Do.

 

Most people who say suicide is cowardly/stupid have never had to deal with it head on. I can guarantee you most of these kids can't even comprehend the complexity of the situation. I've lost my brother to suicide and been in the same house as my father when he attempted it (I actually heard the gunshot). Don't you dare try to tell me you know the wake of suicide when you haven't even grown up around it.

 

It takes a lot courage to admit that you don't want to feel the pain anymore and to end your life. Ending you life is NOT an easy thing to do. Just you saying that it's cowardly/stupid proves that you, yourself, are a coward. If you're that ignorant to say something so blind must mean you absolutely useless in real life so you say stupid sh*t like that on the internet to feel like you matter. If you really are like that, I'd hate to you.

 

Please. Explain this to me, do you really know what you're talking about?

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Posted 31 December 2013 - 12:36 PM Edited by jln22, 31 December 2013 - 12:44 PM.

 

I’ve thought about committing suicide sometimes or a few because of crazy voices in my head possibly from demons and their oppression. Thank god there are almost gone/gone. Is anybody experiencing this / experienced this? Some good answers would be appreciated.  :) Thank you.

Schizophrenia.

Not really. Schizophrenia is confirmed after around six months of psychotic episodes. He might have had a psychotic episode because of drugs abuse. If he's conscious that he might be turning insane, then it's a possibility that he's not schizophrenic at all and he's having other troubles (while most of you westerners don't tend to trust demonic possessions, I think they are true). You know, schizophrenic patients are totally refusing that they're insane and they're blaming others around him as being the mad people.

Anyway, I recommend you reading on Google about schizophrenia, see if you have any symptoms from that list and if you do, then go and see a psychiatrist as soon as possible, or at least tell your parents about it and tell them to find a psychiatrist for you. I think for most of the paranoid schizoid patients, this situation is totally out of their mind and they will avoid any kind of medication evaluation. So you better check yourself now before it's a bit late. If this worsens, you might commit some acts you probably don't want.

Sometimes I think I'm going schizoid too, depression and anxiety turned me upside down and I feel like sh*t, especially at night, but I don't really hear any voices. I've seen a sequence of a horror movie last night and I think it had an impact on me as after I turned to bed, I've started fearing demons, creatures and only a prayer to God helped me to improve that fear.

 

As for on-topic, yeah, I've thought quite a few times about suicide, but I think it's totally out of the things I would do. Only if I lose my mind, that's my fear, then I would commit suicide. When depression gives you hard-time feelings that I really can't describe, associated with masturbation, anxiety and lack of social skills, you're really going mad. I've always wanted to change my life but my lack of motivation and having no balls kept me down everytime I was trying to change my life. Then if I was failing, I would feel depressed, thinking that I'm such a fa**ot that I'll never change my life, I'll stay forever alone, with no girlfriend, no wife, masturbate all my life, and having no friends, no party. This give me real headache, it's hard to keep my head up when I've seen my social life ruined in the last three years. Everything worsened in my last three years and there's no exit door out of this nightmare.

Then yeah, you think about suicide. When you are unsatisfied of your life, when you see all your tries -to change the life- going to nowhere, when you are trying hard to improve yourself, when you are so lazy to study, when your parents give you big time arguing about your studies, but you don't want to keep doing it because they're boring as f*ck, when you haven't chose your path in life, when your life is not going in the way you wanna go, when you know you're such a beautiful individual but no one wants to find out your personality, when no one is as loyal as you are to the people, then what the f*ck is this life worth to live? It's no satisfaction, would you live in the same misery for the rest of your life?

People don't know how's depression and how we are dealing with it every f*cking day, how our minds keep thinking, thinking, like, I'm really exhausted, but my mind won't f*cking shut up. It's hard to relax, it's hard to sleep because of the abundance of words, thoughts I get at night. Like I'm about to write a f*cking poem, I think I could do it at night.


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#130

Posted 01 January 2014 - 05:52 AM

in the end, suicide is dumb because it's irreversible.

the fact that it's selfish has little to do with how illogical the act is.

 

you simply have no opportunity to change your mind or work on improving your situation. and things could always be worse no matter how dark your situation feels in the moment. very few people on Earth are truly so destitute and without hope that suicide makes sense. for 99% of people that kill themselves, it was pretty much unnecessary.

 

people have overcome such horrific, terrible experiences in this world. things that most of us could never imagine going through. the human mind, body, and spirit are remarkably resilient. there's usually no excuse for killing yourself. someone has always been through worse than you and come out just fine. so I can see why terminally ill patients want the ability to end their life on their own terms. I can see why someone who has been captured/imprisoned/tortured with no way out would see death as a viable escape. but short of that, I really have yet to hear any good reason for suicide from the average depressed 20-year old.

 

it's mostly BS.

that's dumb


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Posted 01 January 2014 - 03:46 PM

 

Absolutely agree that suicide isn't always best answer


So when is suicide the best answer? I can think of two:

The end stages of a painful terminal illness.

To avoid a worse imminent death (9/11 victims jumping rather than burning)

:sui:

 

To put an end to dying because a heartbroken depressed person dies everyday


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Posted 01 January 2014 - 04:13 PM

Romeo & Juliet .. was their suicides justified or no?


Never was there a tale of more woe than Juliet and her fair Romeo. In a real life situation though, there were far better options. That was written to be a tragedy. So justified so far as furthering the plot.


 

Absolutely agree that suicide isn't always best answer

So when is suicide the best answer? I can think of two:

The end stages of a painful terminal illness.

To avoid a worse imminent death (9/11 victims jumping rather than burning)

:sui:
 
To put an end to dying because a heartbroken depressed person dies everyday

We can not put an end to dying. That is beyond us. I'm not sure what you mean really.

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 04:19 PM

 

Romeo & Juliet .. was their suicides justified or no?


Never was there a tale of more woe than Juliet and her fair Romeo. In a real life situation though, there were far better options. That was written to be a tragedy. So justified so far as furthering the plot.

 

 

Absolutely agree that suicide isn't always best answer

So when is suicide the best answer? I can think of two:

The end stages of a painful terminal illness.

To avoid a worse imminent death (9/11 victims jumping rather than burning)

:sui:
 
To put an end to dying because a heartbroken depressed person dies everyday

We can not put an end to dying. That is beyond us. I'm not sure what you mean really.

 

I don't agree with your generalization that suicide is the best answer in those two conditions.

Emotional pain can surpass physical pain in many cases


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Posted 01 January 2014 - 04:24 PM Edited by Panz, 01 January 2014 - 04:25 PM.

I work with a lot of sick kids, some of whom won't ever get better, others who will, and I have one patient in particular who reminded me of this thread the other day. She's about 15 and came into the facility about a year ago because she was drugged with something laced with PCP. It destroyed her brain at the time. She was paralyzed, barely cognizant of anything, and relied on a ventilator and feeding tubes. We had no idea how conscious she was, how much she could understand, and how much pain she was in.

 

I finally had the chance to work with her again the other day. She's fully conscious but can't speak because the ventilator makes it difficult. She has the ability to move her arms and legs with quite a bit of force, but she can't sit up or anything. Now, you can tell this girl wants to die.  I had to help change a linen on her bed and she ripped her vent off and fought us, I mean kicking, punching, scratching, biting and digging her neck into the bed to do anything in her power to prevent us from re-connecting that ventilator. It took three of us just to hold her down so that a fourth person could reattach it, and even then, her O2 levels were desaturating and she was turning blue. 

 

We asked her if she wants to get better, if she wants to get out of that place, and she just shook her head and started crying. When someone is in that much pain, god, I wish I could just let them go. I know it doesn't have much to do with the current conversation in this topic, but I just wanted to mention this. She's probably in physical pain, but it's also entirely mental. She's a fully conscious girl trapped in a paralyzed body, unable to speak or express to anyone what she wants or how she's feeling. 

 

Now think about your severely depressed individual who might not be capable to express, socially, how they feel to others maybe due to a slight mental impairment or due to a social impairment. If they feel trapped because of their depression and can't seem to find a way out, is suicide really that cowardly? This patient of mine isn't terminally ill. She's trapped in a body that is slowly healing but that will always be paralyzed. She's physically impaired, but she's not dying. Is her suicide justifiable? If she doesn't want to live that way anymore and feels that there's no way to change it, then why let her suffer? Similarly, with a depressed individual who feels trapped, why let him/her suffer?

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 04:29 PM

I don't agree with your generalization that suicide is the best answer in those two conditions.
Emotional pain can surpass physical pain in many cases


Those conditions involved imminent death anyways. If you think emotional pain can surpass physical pain you haven't been efficiently tortured yet.

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 04:32 PM Edited by Panz, 01 January 2014 - 04:33 PM.

Emotional pain can manipulate your mind so much that it stimulates your body to release hormones that it normally wouldn't. This can cause delusive effects and even physical pain, if strong enough. In some cases, emotional pain is arguably much more powerful than physical pain, at least in altering your mindset and decision-making, which is ultimately what we're concerned about in this topic. 

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 06:53 PM

I'm just gonna say here, if anyone here is contemplating suicide. Please talk to someone like your GP or a professional psychiatrist before you do anything about it. It could change your viewpoints and help you understand why you feel this way.

No one deserves to feel so bad. Not even you.

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 08:00 PM Edited by WBaker, 01 January 2014 - 08:13 PM.

Researching what I wrote further in case I'm wrong.

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Posted 01 January 2014 - 11:25 PM

Damn I came within 5 minute of going through today. But I pussied out because I couldn't decide on the right way to do it. Im too afraid of failing and spending my whole life as a veggie or something.

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Posted 02 January 2014 - 03:44 AM

I've contemplated it many times, but I never have had a serious attempt... But since I had children, I don't think about it anymore. I am shocked when I see a father or mother who suicides.





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