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#31

Posted 08 July 2007 - 03:59 PM

My setup:

Power Macintosh G3 Blue and White 400mhz
512mb SD-RAM
120gb HD
Mac OS X 10.4.10 (fully supported, so no xpostfacto)
4+1 USB 2.0 PCI card
ATI Rage 128 16mb VRAM (stock)
Apple 15" Studio LCD (blueberry)
Bluetooth 2.0+EDR USB stick (my latest upgrade. really nice)

planned upgrades:

-1gb of RAM (I need 4x 256mb PC100s. right now I have 4x128mb)
ATA-100 card to make my hard drive come alive
ATI Radeon 9200 PCI gfx card (128mb VRAM)
Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard
and when I get some cash, a ZIF upgrade card. not the 1ghz G4 sonnet sells, that underclocks your bus to 66mhz. I want either a 1ghz or 1.1ghz G3 that powerlogix sells/sold.

iPod:

-4th gen U2 iPod (without the colour screen), 20gb HD.

I really want to get a vodpod, since I am watching more and more videos.

oh yeah, what's with PC Chat being renamed Tech & PC Chat? and WD&P renamed Web Design/Programming?

oh yeah, in 2 days, I should have my 500mhz icebook (iBook G3 dual USB), to replace my dead pismo, which should bring in more than what I paid for it on eBay. So excited biggrin.gif

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#32

Posted 08 July 2007 - 05:35 PM

This might sound a silly question, and to seasoned mac heads it will be,

But, what sort of hardware specs does mac os support?

I'm considering mac, but the price of a mac pro pushes that away from me, and the mac mini isn't exactly upgradeable, as is the same with the iMac,

so what are mac options for hardware builders?

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#33

Posted 08 July 2007 - 09:29 PM

QUOTE (stretch. @ Jul 8 2007, 12:35)
This might sound a silly question, and to seasoned mac heads it will be,

But, what sort of hardware specs does mac os support?

I'm considering mac, but the price of a mac pro pushes that away from me, and the mac mini isn't exactly upgradeable, as is the same with the iMac,

so what are mac options for hardware builders?

to run OSx86 (which is illegal), you need a intel processor that supports either SSE2 or SSE3, which are instruction sets. I don't know when it started, but my mother's toshiba Satellite 1135-S125 is from 2002-2003 (don't remember when she got it) has a 1.8ghz celeron, and it supports SSE2. I think you will be ok with a celeron, as OS X will just see it as a core solo.

or, you could go out and get a B&W G3. From 1999, but fully support Mac OS X Tiger. I got mine for $60 shipped, and they are flodded on ebay. A good, cheap OS X box.

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 07:46 AM Edited by lesfleanut, 09 July 2007 - 08:00 AM.

IIRC osx86 has a wiki page with all the parts that work with their project. Search google, and make sure you don't stray from that list. Their forum is flooded with broken audio/network/video/ect threads. It's a good solution if you build a PC specifically for osx86, otherwise it's just kind of luck of the draw with which machines it will work with. I'd be interested to see which (if any) notebooks will work flawlessly on osx86, so if you do decide to research this please post back on that matter.


EDIT: This is what I'm talking about.

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 04:00 PM

Thanks guys, I'll look into both the g3 and osx86,

have to see how much money the old purse strings will allow for me!

the g3's on ebay range from 21 with like 15 p&p, I think it could stretch that far tounge.gif

Upgradability (if any)? Like Ram, etc. or is it just the ram that's upgradable?

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#36

Posted 09 July 2007 - 08:24 PM

You could always get the Mac Pro and have that last you a good 6 years or so. They are f*cking beasts.

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 08:25 AM

Holy sh*tbricks, look at this deal on eBay. The seller has a lot of 5-10 of them. If I wasn't saving for a vacation at the end of the month I'd have one of these on my doorstep next week. Of course, the week after that it would be gutted and put in the smallest case I could find.


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#38

Posted 10 July 2007 - 08:35 AM

If it wasn't US only I would buy one for my mother and another to use as a server.


iPod comes today. Engraved "Answer? 42" on it. Couldn't fit "Nobody writes jokes in base-13" unfotunately.

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 05:58 PM

I was thinking about stretching to a cheap G4, stylish and the like, more powerful than the G3, has a tft screen and is much better looking,

either that or a pro.

I've had a look at the osx86 and found that my amd processor is supported, which actually took me by huge surprise, so I'm going to investigate the rest of my computer specs and see if running it on my pc is feasable.

Ebay G4

Or that.

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 09:16 PM

Me, i don't really want to try OS-X.
System-7 or OS-8...Grrrrowwwlll...

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 01:39 AM

aw yeah, got me a new toy on Tuesday. Here it was in it's stock config:

iBook G3 500mhz
128mb of RAM (64mb soldered, 64mb stick)
10gb 4200 RPM HD
CD-ROM
Mac OS X 10.3.5

Upgrades:

80gb 5400 RPM Seagate HD
192mb of RAM (64mb soldered, + 128mb in socket)
Mac OS X 10.3.9
Airport card

I plan on getting enough RAM for tiger, but panther is smooth as silk on it.

It does not run a 750fx, so I can't softclock it with iCook, which is a damn shame.

My only other gripes with it, is it came with a 3rd party AC adapter, and the jack is messed up or something, so it will only charge in a certin way. This one not being the model with the glowing LED around the power jack, I am left to wait for the lights on the battery to start glowing, or watch the battery icon i n X to change. The jack is also smaller, so that leaves my 4 yo-yo adapters out in the cold, as they have the bigger jacks. From what I have gathered, Apple DID make a yo-yo with a smaller jack that originally shipped with these machines, before moving to the 45 watt white brick.

oh yeah, I can't seem to find the old Gmail Notify that runs on panther, so i'm out of luck on that front.

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 12:02 AM

I bet you could pick up a used iBook G3/G4 power adapter on ebay for pretty cheap.

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 02:24 AM

QUOTE (iamdigitalman @ Jul 13 2007, 21:39)
My only other gripes with it, is it came with a 3rd party AC adapter, and the jack is messed up or something, so it will only charge in a certin way. This one not being the model with the glowing LED around the power jack, I am left to wait for the lights on the battery to start glowing, or watch the battery icon i n X to change. The jack is also smaller, so that leaves my 4 yo-yo adapters out in the cold, as they have the bigger jacks. From what I have gathered, Apple DID make a yo-yo with a smaller jack that originally shipped with these machines, before moving to the 45 watt white brick.

I can confirm that they did indeed make that adapter for that model iBook. It was essentially the same Yo-Yo used for the Clamshells, but the power adapter bit that plugged into the disk was skinnier and this ugly blue-green color.

As for your charging problems, it's probably the result of a bad DC-In or the cheap charger. If you have another charger, preferably the brick that has the lights, plug it in and jiggle it. If the light on it goes on and off (or from orange to green), the DC-In is bad. If it doesn't, you have a bad charger. Replacing either really isn't too difficult or imperative, but it's up to you how bothersome the charging situation is.

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 10:49 PM

Well, I found out my compooper should in theory support OSx86,

Bit of a surprise as I expected it to only be for intel rigs and mine's AMD,

But, sadly a comp failure left me without the image (stupid virus) which means I have to go through the hassle of trying to find an up to date image of the install disk... again.

grrr.

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Posted 16 July 2007 - 06:21 AM

QUOTE (stretch. @ Jul 15 2007, 17:49)
Well, I found out my compooper should in theory support OSx86,

Bit of a surprise as I expected it to only be for intel rigs and mine's AMD,

But, sadly a comp failure left me without the image (stupid virus) which means I have to go through the hassle of trying to find an up to date image of the install disk... again.

grrr.

Dude, you might as well wait till october when leopard is out, it's only a few months away and it will save you the trouble of having to get it later.

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 03:10 AM

QUOTE (Macrumors @ July 21 @ 2007 08:58 PM EST)
There have been rumors that the next "6th Generation" iPod could be released as early as August 7th, 2007. According to some sources, the new iPod may still be housed in the traditional click-wheel design rather than moving to a full touch-screen design like the new iPhone.

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An anonymous source now claims that the iPod interface will be revamped to a more visual interface, with iPhone-like design elements and transitions. The new interface will incorporate Ken Burns album art transitions, Cover Flow and a new split-screen interface. The overall look and feel will be familiar to current iPod owners but have the additional visual flair.

It's not yet clear if OS X is hidden behind this new user interface, but Steve Jobs had recently revealed that they are working on OS X based iPods.

The following interface videos have also been provided, and though their authenticity can't be guaranteed, they certainly look convincing. The Beatles' albums appear to play a large role in the interface videos, suggesting that online Beatles sales will launch concurrently with the 6G iPod's release.

Videos: World Clock, Now Playing, Thumbnail.

Link.


Take note, for that is the correct way to post a blog. Anywho, thoughts? I really hope this isn't true, otherwise I'll be getting a 5G from ebay or somewhere on the cheap.


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Posted 22 July 2007 - 05:05 AM

We've barely heard anything about the 6thG iPod and they're releasing it in less than three weeks? There's no way that's possible.

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 05:45 AM

QUOTE (TDP992 @ Jul 22 2007, 00:05)
We've barely heard anything about the 6thG iPod and they're releasing it in less than three weeks? There's no way that's possible.

Are we thinking about the same company?

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 12:18 PM

Apple's legal team has asked macrumors to remove that blog post, and Apple has never asked them to remove anything that wasn't real. That sucks. Perhaps it is the interface for the new ipod nano... I still want to dream of a multi-touch ipod. sad.gif

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 02:53 AM

QUOTE (lesfleanut @ Jul 22 2007, 07:18)
Apple's legal team has asked macrumors to remove that blog post, and Apple has never asked them to remove anything that wasn't real. That sucks. Perhaps it is the interface for the new ipod nano... I still want to dream of a multi-touch ipod. sad.gif

What is the appeal of using a touch screen on tiny electronics? Fingertips are big and using a stylus requires two hands. Whats wrong with buttons and their one handed ways? Will someone please think of the one handed people?

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 02:54 AM

QUOTE (Sixdust @ Jul 22 2007, 22:53)
QUOTE (lesfleanut @ Jul 22 2007, 07:18)
Apple's legal team has asked macrumors to remove that blog post, and Apple has never asked them to remove anything that wasn't real. That sucks. Perhaps it is the interface for the new ipod nano... I still want to dream of a multi-touch ipod. sad.gif

What is the appeal of using a touch screen on tiny electronics? Fingertips are big and using a stylus requires two hands. Whats wrong with buttons and their one handed ways? Will someone please think of the one handed people?

Whats your other hand always doing?

I just like the full screen idea. Trying to press something with your finger can be anoying tho.

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 03:12 AM

QUOTE (Primer43 @ Jul 22 2007, 21:54)
QUOTE (Sixdust @ Jul 22 2007, 22:53)
QUOTE (lesfleanut @ Jul 22 2007, 07:18)
Apple's legal team has asked macrumors to remove that blog post, and Apple has never asked them to remove anything that wasn't real. That sucks. Perhaps it is the interface for the new ipod nano... I still want to dream of a multi-touch ipod. sad.gif

What is the appeal of using a touch screen on tiny electronics? Fingertips are big and using a stylus requires two hands. Whats wrong with buttons and their one handed ways? Will someone please think of the one handed people?

Whats your other hand always doing?

I just like the full screen idea. Trying to press something with your finger can be anoying tho.

Well, sometimes you have to hold something in your hand, thus one hand less to use, and when you have buttons that are stationary, its easier to learn and faster to use rather than having to use two hands and keeping your head down to make sure that what you are tapping is a virtual button. With buttons, the learning curve is much easier and pro's can text or do whatever one handed without looking or needing to constantly be staring downwards at their phone. I know that this is picky and there are some people who don't apply. But to me, using one hand, to walkie talkie or make a call to somebody without even opening my phone, or even opening the flip and pressing buttons is much easier and faster (at least for me it is). Touch screens are better suited for bigger devices that have room for your hands and are stationary. Just like when you type with your keyboard, if you are good enough, you can type out this whole paragraph like me without looking at your keyboard. I am also sitting at a bit of a distance and my screen is clean. I don't have to get up really close to my screen and press my screen which is vital to my operations of my PC. I don't like the idea of smudging my screen because I have to. [/rant]

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 09:26 PM

QUOTE (lesfleanut @ Jul 16 2007, 07:21)
QUOTE (stretch. @ Jul 15 2007, 17:49)
Well, I found out my compooper should in theory support OSx86,

Bit of a surprise as I expected it to only be for intel rigs and mine's AMD,

But, sadly a comp failure left me without the image (stupid virus) which means I have to go through the hassle of trying to find an up to date image of the install disk... again.

grrr.

Dude, you might as well wait till october when leopard is out, it's only a few months away and it will save you the trouble of having to get it later.

Well, while that's true,

I'm unsure how long it'll take for it to all be patched for my hardware...

Besides, I need to get used to mac =p

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 09:35 PM

QUOTE (stretch. @ Jul 23 2007, 16:26)
QUOTE (lesfleanut @ Jul 16 2007, 07:21)
QUOTE (stretch. @ Jul 15 2007, 17:49)
Well, I found out my compooper should in theory support OSx86,

Bit of a surprise as I expected it to only be for intel rigs and mine's AMD,

But, sadly a comp failure left me without the image (stupid virus) which means I have to go through the hassle of trying to find an up to date image of the install disk... again.

grrr.

Dude, you might as well wait till october when leopard is out, it's only a few months away and it will save you the trouble of having to get it later.

Well, while that's true,

I'm unsure how long it'll take for it to all be patched for my hardware...

Besides, I need to get used to mac =p

So have you got it installed yet, lazypants? tounge.gif

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 09:38 PM

Nah the download is still 200mb to go.

I even stopped downloading porn so it'd go quicker!

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 09:40 PM

QUOTE (stretch. @ Jul 23 2007, 16:38)
Nah the download is still 200mb to go.

I even stopped downloading porn so it'd go quicker!

heh... Well let us know how it goes when you get it installed.

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 10:52 PM

Walking through lakey today, and saw a new shop sealed off with a massive apple logo, so now i dont have to go bluewater everytime i want to look around at fancy imacs that i cant afford. No idea when the new store opens though sad.gif

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 07:51 AM

What my grandpa has (I use for internet browsing)

17" eMac
700 Mhz G4 Processor
40 GB HD
384 MB RAM
32 MB Nvidia GeForce 2MX
DVD/CD-RW Drive
OS X 10.4.10

It still runs very well, considering he got it in '02 or '03 (I forgot). Only problem was with either the memory or the hard drive getting bad. He's thinking about getting a new iMac soon and probably giving this one to my sister to f*ck up.

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Posted 24 July 2007 - 11:23 AM Edited by stretch., 24 July 2007 - 02:23 PM.

Well, now trying to install Mac has left me at an interesting dilema.

It would now seem that it has killed all of my mouse drivers, how I don't know. But it has.

Now none of my 4 mice work in any of my 8 usb ports, even after a restart. great huh?

So now I'm stuck using mouse keys until I can fix it, oh and mac didn't even install, it kept on throwing up a "please restart your pc to continue"

gay fruit company.

I shall however persevere in my quest for the sacred fruit.

[edit]

Well, I've since got my mice to work by trying to install mac in safe mode.

I'm gonna go and double check that all my hardware is supported and try and find the latest version and install instructions... fun ey?

I did however get Kubuntu to install pretty easily

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Posted 27 July 2007 - 04:31 AM

Alright, well, it may be the adapter. I am getting one off ebay. the little square one, 45w, with the grounded cable. I think this one lights up, so let's hope it works. I don't really trust 3rd party stuff since my Pelican Power Brick sploded.

did the yo-yo adapters for the clamshess have the light? I have 4 of them, and none of them light up. Yeah, they have bigger jacks.

Oh yeah, i'll be getting a 512mb module to max the icebook in a trade for my pismo's parts, which is essentailly a complete machine, sans CPU, airport card, and hard drive. i'll be shipping it with a 256mb high profile module as well.oh yeah, and for any of you who like the older macs, such as I, I got a job writing for lowendmac. A new column titled "Collection Spotlight", and you can find it here. I am late in submitting the 3rd article for this week, I may just delay it to next week. Oh well.

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