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Posted 18 December 2013 - 11:30 PM Edited by Vlynor, 15 January 2014 - 11:26 AM.

Do you consider yourself a Democrat, a Republican, a Green, a Libertarian? Something else? Independent? If so, a moderate? Left leaning, right leaning? A communist, a fascist? 

 

If you are an American or even if you aren't, what do/would you identify as on the political spectrum?

 

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 11:32 PM

I'm a right wing liberal communist neo-confederate.

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 11:53 PM

Communist, but specifically left-wing nationalist.


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Posted 18 December 2013 - 11:54 PM Edited by BarelyLegal, 27 December 2013 - 07:46 AM.

Ignore.

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 12:01 AM

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 12:25 AM

As once being a part of the People's Democracy of Soviet Union, I support communism.

 

Seriously though, I don't really know anything about politics. I support Obamaism!


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Posted 19 December 2013 - 12:27 AM Edited by ShadowDog94, 19 December 2013 - 12:28 AM.

Irish Republicanism. Sure you already knew yourself.


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Posted 19 December 2013 - 12:53 AM

Anarchy in the UK.

 

Seriously though.

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:20 AM

Anarchism (which is more or less equivalent to Libertarianism, but I prefer Anarchism as a term). I think that in an ideal world people shouldn't be divided by country, hierarchy, or by any other means and that the state is harmful and ultimately undesirable. I am aware that such a world may not be possible now, but I kinda hope it will be in the future.

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:27 AM

Anarchism (which is more or less equivalent to Libertarianism, but I prefer Anarchism as a term). I think that in an ideal world people shouldn't be divided by country, hierarchy, or by any other means and that the state is harmful and ultimately undesirable. I am aware that such a world may not be possible now, but I kinda hope it will be in the future.

 

Hm. I don't think you can say Libertarianism is equivalent to Anarchism. Libertarians acknowledge that government is necessary, they just want a lot less of it. Most American libertarians I know of are in favor of the military and the police, as well as a sound justice system in order to protect their rights and liberties. 


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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:30 AM

I'm right-wing. These politics seem to always keep the country stable no matter what, unlike socialism.


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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:34 AM

I'm right-wing. These politics seem to always keep the country stable no matter what, unlike socialism.


LOL.
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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:39 AM Edited by OFWGKTADGAFLLBBLSBFBN, 19 December 2013 - 01:39 AM.

 

I'm right-wing. These politics seem to always keep the country stable no matter what, unlike socialism.


LOL.

 

Don't be mad at me that your socialist country can't get you a job.


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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:40 AM

 

 

I'm right-wing. These politics seem to always keep the country stable no matter what, unlike socialism.


LOL.

 

Don't be mad at me that your socialist country can't get you a job.

 

 

I guess right wing depends on where you live. 


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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:41 AM

Don't be mad at me that your socialist country can't get you a job.

 

stupid statement is stupid.

and funny.

 

but mostly stupid.

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:42 AM

Don't be mad at me that your socialist country can't get you a job.

 
stupid statement is stupid.
and funny.
 
but mostly stupid.
This.

My country is in hands of right wing capitalist scumbags and there's no way to get a job thanks to their policies.

Check your facts before talking sh*t.

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:43 AM

 

 

Don't be mad at me that your socialist country can't get you a job.

 
stupid statement is stupid.
and funny.
 
but mostly stupid.
This.

My country is in hands of right wing capitalist scumbags and there's no way to get a job thanks to their policies.

Check your facts before talking sh*t.

 

Which country are you from?


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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:44 AM

Don't be mad at me that your socialist country can't get you a job.

 
stupid statement is stupid.
and funny.
 
but mostly stupid.
This.
My country is in hands of right wing capitalist scumbags and there's no way to get a job thanks to their policies.
Check your facts before talking sh*t.

Which country are you from?
Spain.

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:46 AM

 

 

 

 

Don't be mad at me that your socialist country can't get you a job.

 
stupid statement is stupid.
and funny.
 
but mostly stupid.
This.
My country is in hands of right wing capitalist scumbags and there's no way to get a job thanks to their policies.
Check your facts before talking sh*t.

Which country are you from?
Spain.

 

What's so bad about your government? I'm genuinely curious as I don't follow Spanish politics.


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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:49 AM

 

 

Don't be mad at me that your socialist country can't get you a job.

 
stupid statement is stupid.
and funny.
 
but mostly stupid.
This.

My country is in hands of right wing capitalist scumbags and there's no way to get a job thanks to their policies.

Check your facts before talking sh*t.

 

But it used to be in hands of socialists before 2011 when your country had hit its bottom.

 

http://en.wikipedia....nister_of_Spain


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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:54 AM

hands of socialists

there's no such thing.

 

no government on Earth has ever adopted a complete socialist economic model for their country.

almost every Western nation on the planet operates under a capitalist system with bits and pieces of socialism sprinkled over the top.

 

the world is very familiar with rampant capitalism.

we actually have no idea what true, large-scale socialism even looks like, let alone enough evidence to say how good or bad it is for any country.


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Posted 19 December 2013 - 01:59 AM Edited by RoadRunner71, 19 December 2013 - 02:00 AM.

Don't be mad at me that your socialist country can't get you a job.

 
stupid statement is stupid.
and funny.
 
but mostly stupid.
This.
My country is in hands of right wing capitalist scumbags and there's no way to get a job thanks to their policies.
Check your facts before talking sh*t.
Which country are you from?
Spain.
What's so bad about your government? I'm genuinely curious as I don't follow Spanish politics.
It's long to explain. Anyway, regarding the unemployment matter, since they got elected (with absolute majority), they have been introducing policies that only benefit the big companies (making easier to fire workers, worse contracts, austerity - even public services, like the health one, don't replace workers so, by one hand, the ones that are left have more work to do and therefore are less productive and, by other hand, the unemplyment rate grows-, privatizations, etc.).

Don't be mad at me that your socialist country can't get you a job.

 
stupid statement is stupid.
and funny.
 
but mostly stupid.
This.
My country is in hands of right wing capitalist scumbags and there's no way to get a job thanks to their policies.
Check your facts before talking sh*t.
But it used to be in hands of socialists before 2011 when your country had hit its bottom.
 
http://en.wikipedia....nister_of_Spain
They were socialist, but the economical crisis was something that happened worldwide, not just in Spain so it has nothing to do.

At least with them, we, the workers, the ones who move the country, had fair rights instead of oppresive laws. We are worse than we were back then.

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 03:06 AM

Left-leaning centrist, registered as an Independent. I don't like labels and I'd rather not cave into pressure by aligning myself with a certain party.

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 03:19 AM

Libertarian, I used to consider myself Republican, but they've drifted way too far into religious extremism.


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Posted 19 December 2013 - 03:25 AM

I used to consider myself Republican, but they've drifted way too far into religious extremism.

hey at least you can admit it.

 

most Conservatives in the US are so hellbent on hating Obama that they're literally blind to the fact it's destroying their party.


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Posted 19 December 2013 - 03:44 AM

Chaotic good.

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 03:59 AM

I tend to be liberal but I'm don't identify with political parties.

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 04:24 AM

I hate everything about political parties. They are really the core reason nothing gets done in america anymore. There's some sub reasons but it's mostly political parties.

 

I support Marxism, because in theory it works. It's always executed wrong, but in theory it works.

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 04:30 AM

 

Anarchism (which is more or less equivalent to Libertarianism, but I prefer Anarchism as a term). I think that in an ideal world people shouldn't be divided by country, hierarchy, or by any other means and that the state is harmful and ultimately undesirable. I am aware that such a world may not be possible now, but I kinda hope it will be in the future.

 

Hm. I don't think you can say Libertarianism is equivalent to Anarchism. Libertarians acknowledge that government is necessary, they just want a lot less of it. Most American libertarians I know of are in favor of the military and the police, as well as a sound justice system in order to protect their rights and liberties. 

 

American Libertarianism is so far removed from what the rest of the world calls Libertarianism. For the rest of the world Libertarianism and Anarchism are closely linked. For America, Libertarianism is Ayn Rand and Penn Jilette. 

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 04:55 AM

 

 

Anarchism (which is more or less equivalent to Libertarianism, but I prefer Anarchism as a term). I think that in an ideal world people shouldn't be divided by country, hierarchy, or by any other means and that the state is harmful and ultimately undesirable. I am aware that such a world may not be possible now, but I kinda hope it will be in the future.

 

Hm. I don't think you can say Libertarianism is equivalent to Anarchism. Libertarians acknowledge that government is necessary, they just want a lot less of it. Most American libertarians I know of are in favor of the military and the police, as well as a sound justice system in order to protect their rights and liberties. 

 

American Libertarianism is so far removed from what the rest of the world calls Libertarianism. For the rest of the world Libertarianism and Anarchism are closely linked. For America, Libertarianism is Ayn Rand and Penn Jilette. 

 

 

When I speak about politics it's usually from an American perspective. The Libertarian Party of the United States is pro-government in order to provide common protection among citizens (police, military, and anti-fraud mainly). Even outside of the party, most people in the United States don't associate Libertarianism with Anarchism. 

 

If you haven't noticed yet, I generally consider myself a libertarian. I do realize it's a fairly Utopian outlook on society, though.





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