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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:26 AM Edited by niko bellic half brother, 11 December 2013 - 05:38 AM.

@Otter

*I'm attempting to quote people here, but for some reason, everytime I try to do so in this particular thread, it's lagging worse than a Renault trying to run on cooking oil.

So because Moore is a self-proclaimed liberal "equality fighter", that somehow excuses his evident manipulation of his guests words and demonstrated research to support his own ideologies? Why exactly is this deemed an acceptable form of social commentary, while it's cross-section political counterpart is not?

Both parties here are guilty of the same misinforming offence to cater to their own followers, so why should one be looked at as a more accepted, and not to mention award inducing, propaganda mechanic?

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:29 AM

Not excusing Moore's behavior but I'm saying that Alex Jones is not his counterpart. Hannity, O'Reilly, these are his counterparts.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:34 AM

Fair point mate. At the end of the day, they're all a bunch of egotistical c*nts. But fair play to them; they've all managed to capitalise on their bollocks.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:51 AM

Not excusing Moore's behavior but I'm saying that Alex Jones is not his counterpart. Hannity, O'Reilly, these are his counterparts.

 

Seriously trying to resist the urge to post O'reilly memes about magnets and tides where he says "Cant explain that"

 

The left and the right in the US are just so full of sh*t, I dont see how anyone can side entirely with one and hate the other.. they both have some really stupid points of view.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:52 AM

 

Not excusing Moore's behavior but I'm saying that Alex Jones is not his counterpart. Hannity, O'Reilly, these are his counterparts.

 

Seriously trying to resist the urge to post O'reilly memes about magnets and tides where he says "Cant explain that"

 

 

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:52 AM

Alex Jones is particularly entertaining because he spends half his time ranting about "Socialism" and European politics, how all Brits are subject to constant surveillance and other such extreme right wingnut crap, and how this is all part of a grand conspiracy to create a one-world government, and spends the other half of the time extolling the virtues of this strange pseudo-libertarian, pseudo-corporatist ideology that pulls influence from basically everything he decries. He's also, by proxy, a closet anti-Semite given that he's spent the best part of his life championing a twisted re-interpretations of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.



If you mind me asking are you a Zionist or Jewish?

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 06:05 AM

 

 

Not excusing Moore's behavior but I'm saying that Alex Jones is not his counterpart. Hannity, O'Reilly, these are his counterparts.

 

Seriously trying to resist the urge to post O'reilly memes about magnets and tides where he says "Cant explain that"

 

 

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 07:48 AM

^ lol
 
 
Edit: I suppose it's fitting that my 420th post (this one) was in relation to the guy above me.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 08:40 AM Edited by sivispacem, 11 December 2013 - 08:47 AM.

There seem to have been some very annoying changes made to the quoting system which means I can't block quote all of my responses, so here are a few just for fun:
 

While all other news are reporting on weather and some stupid girls murder case, RT talks about Syria and Libya and the EU, about things like the TPP and NDAA, they point out amazing abuses of peoples rights and how the US and EU in general are going down the toilet.

 
Again, not really. They were one of the main proponents of the theory that the NDAA permitted the infinite detention of US citizens, even though every academic or legal expert on the matters disagreed with this interpretation. They use conspiracy theorists with no grounding in the subjects they are talking about, like Alex Jones, as "expert" witnesses despite the fact he doesn't even have the most rudimentary of qualifications. I'm not entirely sure what news channels you are suggesting don't address the conflicts in Libya and Syria, issues with the EU ect. You've got to remember that, as the mouthpiece of the Russian government, most of what comes from Russia Today is specifically designed to undermine the West or EU. Take, for instance, their current coverage of the sitaution in the Ukraine.
 

Its just not possible the way the official story has it.

 
So, exactly what f*cking qualification do you have in physics, structural engineering or a related discipline like strategic/security studies, to judge whether the official story was "possible"? Oh, that's right, absolutely none.
 

Anyone who thinks tower 7 could freefall into its own footprint from tinders off the other buildings coming in through a broken window, within a very short time, without fire through the building or anything.. is living in lala land...

 
Well you might want to go tell NIST they're living in la-la land. Oh, wait, they're much more qualified to speak on the subject than either you or your conspiracy theorists
 

so yea, if you believe the official story.. Id just write you off there.

 
I think you lack the authority to write of anyone in this discussion given that you've effectively contributed absolutely nothing of note, merit or even reality.  
 

that they used white phosphorus which is a chemical weapon, on urban populated areas in the battle of fallujah and other..

 
Patently false, no international or national convention or treaty on chemical weapons refers to WP in such a way. Ergo, it is not a chemical weapon.
 

Anti gay? They banned the promotion of the gay lifestyle on daytime TV to children who havent even hit puberty, good, nothing wrong with that.

 
Except such a promotion never existed in the first place, so what they were actually using the legislation to ban was basically anything that the Russian Orthodox church who bankroll Putin didn't like.
  

The starry plough is banned under anti terrorism laws, inferring its glorifying terrorism even though it merely stands for what I said above.

 
Evidence please. It doesn't appear on the Home Office list of proscribed symbols so it isn't banned. There's belief amongst Republicans that it is but that doesn't make it so. If it isn't banned on the HO proscribed list, it isn't banned.

Alex Jones is particularly entertaining because he spends half his time ranting about "Socialism" and European politics, how all Brits are subject to constant surveillance and other such extreme right wingnut crap, and how this is all part of a grand conspiracy to create a one-world government, and spends the other half of the time extolling the virtues of this strange pseudo-libertarian, pseudo-corporatist ideology that pulls influence from basically everything he decries. He's also, by proxy, a closet anti-Semite given that he's spent the best part of his life championing a twisted re-interpretations of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.



If you mind me asking are you a Zionist or Jewish?

Not being Jewish rather precludes you from actually being a Zionist, and I'm not Jewish

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 11:09 AM

Watching Bill O'Reilly videos this morning has left me seething. I have a rugby game this afternoon and I am now appropriately fired up.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 03:00 PM Edited by Nale Dixon, 11 December 2013 - 03:02 PM.

After reading your preliminary retorts to my post, I was in the process of composing a fairly thought out response. But then I stumbled upon your claim that Moore and his apparant beliefs are considered right wing; after which point I could no longer take you seriously as a middle-man, unbiased contributor on the matter. And you further harmed your credentials by saying that because I'm Scottish - where I agree that the majority of my compatriots have predominantly voted a "left wing" party in Labour these past few years (barring the unfortunate rise in popularity for the SNP) - somehow renders me, as a Scot, having "no excuse", as you so prudishly put it, or in essence constituting me being exempt of establishing my own personal opinions without majority influence.

Also, I don't even want to ask where you got your allegation of Mr Neil from.

Okay. Firstly I said relative to people like Ralph Nader, Michael Moore is right wing. It was more of a jocular ridiculing of you painting him as an 'extreme leftist'. However, Michael Moore is still floating around the centre-right of politics and I will happily explain why. Michael Moore is a Liberal, Pro Laissez-Faire, pro government interventionism, pro state institutions. If you don't understand what I'm saying right here, wikipedia has a handy article on Liberalism. Alternatively you can go to your local library and find 'politics for dummies' and you'll probably find a handy chapter on Liberalism. 

 

Now as for the second point. I only raised that in relation to VIynor defending what you said by saying that in relation to the skewed American perception of politics, that Michael Moore is pretty left wing. Unfortunately for you, you're not American hence why I said you should know better. I apologise for overestimating your intelligence. Don't worry, I won't make this mistake twice.

 

Uh? I didn't make any accusation about Andrew Neil. I said he's no better or worse than any other BBC political commentator. For the record however, Andrew Neil was a staunch conservative, and probably still is. Since we're on the subject and you were giving a side swipe at the BBC for I can only assume being too left wing, Nick Robinson, the political editor of the BBC, was also a conservative. Now I'm going to give these guys the benefit of the doubt and assume that they're doing their job as being as apolitical as possible, but it kind of blows away the notion that politically the BBC is biased towards the other side. Not that there really is any other side. Then again I suppose you think Ed Miliband is a raving Anarchist.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 03:04 PM

 

After reading your preliminary retorts to my post, I was in the process of composing a fairly thought out response. But then I stumbled upon your claim that Moore and his apparant beliefs are considered right wing; after which point I could no longer take you seriously as a middle-man, unbiased contributor on the matter. And you further harmed your credentials by saying that because I'm Scottish - where I agree that the majority of my compatriots have predominantly voted a "left wing" party in Labour these past few years (barring the unfortunate rise in popularity for the SNP) - somehow renders me, as a Scot, having "no excuse", as you so prudishly put it, or in essence constituting me being exempt of establishing my own personal opinions without majority influence.

Also, I don't even want to ask where you got your allegation of Mr Neil from.

Michael Moore is a Liberal, Pro Laissez-Faire, pro government interventionism, pro state institutions. If you don't understand what I'm saying right here, wikipedia has a handy article on Liberalism. Alternatively you can go to your local library and find 'politics for dummies' and you'll probably find a handy chapter on Liberalism. 

 

Going to have to call you out on that. You cannot be pro Laissez-Faire and pro government interventionism, that's contradictory. 


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 03:20 PM Edited by Nale Dixon, 11 December 2013 - 03:20 PM.

 

 

After reading your preliminary retorts to my post, I was in the process of composing a fairly thought out response. But then I stumbled upon your claim that Moore and his apparant beliefs are considered right wing; after which point I could no longer take you seriously as a middle-man, unbiased contributor on the matter. And you further harmed your credentials by saying that because I'm Scottish - where I agree that the majority of my compatriots have predominantly voted a "left wing" party in Labour these past few years (barring the unfortunate rise in popularity for the SNP) - somehow renders me, as a Scot, having "no excuse", as you so prudishly put it, or in essence constituting me being exempt of establishing my own personal opinions without majority influence.

Also, I don't even want to ask where you got your allegation of Mr Neil from.

Michael Moore is a Liberal, Pro Laissez-Faire, pro government interventionism, pro state institutions. If you don't understand what I'm saying right here, wikipedia has a handy article on Liberalism. Alternatively you can go to your local library and find 'politics for dummies' and you'll probably find a handy chapter on Liberalism. 

 

Going to have to call you out on that. You cannot be pro Laissez-Faire and pro government interventionism, that's contradictory. 

 

You rotten bastard!

 

I probably meant pro market. I'm saying he's a capitalist pig, dig?

 

The man approves of fee markets unless those free markets oppose his political views.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 03:25 PM

Michael Moore is on the left of US politics, but that doesn't make him left wing in the grand scheme of things. Most of his views seen to tally best with the Liberal European "Third Way" which is a largely centrist movement that takes influences from both right and left. He's certainly on the left as far as conventional US politicians go but in comparison to, say, most of Europe he's centrist with a slight right lean in some aspects of economic policy, a libertarian non-interventionist slant on foreign policy and left wing views on social justice.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 05:08 PM

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The fact I'm from Scotland/UK is irrelevant. It was American conspiracy wackos who were brought up in this thread, so I introduced another American conspiracy wacko to the matter. And no matter how you spin it, most of what Moore claims to represent is considered quite substantially left wing in the American outlook of things.

 

But after your last reply, it's become apparent you're inept of carrying a discussion without breaking out the needless, petty insults. Apologies for overestimating your maturity. But then I shouldn't have expected any less from your type. And on that note; I think it might be in my best interests to decline to waste anymore of life's precious time with you. Good day.

 

Oh, and you did make a completely unfounded accusation of Mr Neil.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 06:14 PM Edited by IM_YOUR_GOD, 11 December 2013 - 06:14 PM.

 


 

Alex Jones is particularly entertaining because he spends half his time ranting about "Socialism" and European politics, how all Brits are subject to constant surveillance and other such extreme right wingnut crap, and how this is all part of a grand conspiracy to create a one-world government, and spends the other half of the time extolling the virtues of this strange pseudo-libertarian, pseudo-corporatist ideology that pulls influence from basically everything he decries. He's also, by proxy, a closet anti-Semite given that he's spent the best part of his life championing a twisted re-interpretations of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.



If you mind me asking are you a Zionist or Jewish?

 

Not being Jewish rather precludes you from actually being a Zionist, and I'm not Jewish

 

 

Not necessary, see I can have Zionist agenda and not be Jewish.So in all honestly, I can convert tomorrow and move to Isis Ra El and fly the sex symbol. 


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 06:22 PM Edited by Nale Dixon, 11 December 2013 - 06:27 PM.

@Nale Dixon

 

The fact I'm from Scotland/UK is irrelevant. It was American conspiracy wackos who were brought up in this thread, so I introduced another American conspiracy wacko to the matter. And no matter how you spin it, most of what Moore claims to represent is considered quite substantially left wing in the American outlook of things.

 

But after your last reply, it's become apparent you're inept of carrying a discussion without breaking out the needless, petty insults. Apologies for overestimating your maturity. But then I shouldn't have expected any less from your type. And on that note; I think it might be in my best interests to decline to waste anymore of life's precious time with you. Good day.

 

Oh, and you did make a completely unfounded accusation of Mr Neil.

Or maybe you just don't have the intellect to respond to what I've said, WHO KNOWS!

 

Look pal, you can't just make unsubstantiated claims like Michael Moore is a left wing extremist then cry when someone calls you out on it, making vague remarks that you aren't going to reply because of *insert problem with my writing style here*. Also please point out my 'completely unfounded accusation. I'd love to know what on earth you're talking about.

 

For the last time, it is relevant because you are not american and should be relatively aware of the political status of Michael Moore. If you'd said Michael Moore is 'much further left' than the majority of Americans, then I MIGHT have let you off with that. But you didn't, you acted like Michael Moore is a Leninist.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 06:41 PM


 

 

Alex Jones is particularly entertaining because he spends half his time ranting about "Socialism" and European politics, how all Brits are subject to constant surveillance and other such extreme right wingnut crap, and how this is all part of a grand conspiracy to create a one-world government, and spends the other half of the time extolling the virtues of this strange pseudo-libertarian, pseudo-corporatist ideology that pulls influence from basically everything he decries. He's also, by proxy, a closet anti-Semite given that he's spent the best part of his life championing a twisted re-interpretations of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.


If you mind me asking are you a Zionist or Jewish?
 
Not being Jewish rather precludes you from actually being a Zionist, and I'm not Jewish
 
 
Not necessary, see I can have Zionist agenda and not be Jewish.So in all honestly, I can convert tomorrow and move to Isis Ra El and fly the sex symbol. 

Supporting Israeli statehood isn't "Zionist". You can't be a Jewish nationalist without being Jewish.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 06:54 PM

@Nale

 

Again with the unnecessary insults, and again the reason I've run out of patience with you. I couldn't care less how you interpret that. Get back to me when you grow up a bit, and lose that pretentious attitude of yours.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 06:59 PM

@Nale

 

Again with the unnecessary insults, and again the reason I've run out of patience with you. I couldn't care less how you interpret that. Get back to me when you grow up a bit, and lose that pretentious attitude of yours.

Fine sweetheart, I'm really really sorry if I have offended you with my crass barbaric attitude, I have forsaken myself with my egregious needless insults and I would really like it if we could have a civil debate relating to the political convictions of Michael Moore.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 07:07 PM

Word of advice: Sarcasm won't do anything to help improve your dwindling image either. 

 

This is the last response you'll be getting from me, as this thread has been derailed enough.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 07:28 PM

Word of advice: Sarcasm won't do anything to help improve your dwindling image either. 

 

This is the last response you'll be getting from me, as this thread has been derailed enough.

Boy there's no f*cking pleasing some people.

 

If you want me to be honest here bub, I don't give a f*ck about your opinion, you've already shown a severe lack of an ability to grasp the subjects being discussed here; my only issue being that you have the gall to act as if you are above responding to me.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 08:08 PM Edited by biggsull, 11 December 2013 - 08:17 PM.

So, exactly what f*cking qualification do you have in physics, structural engineering or a related discipline like strategic/security studies, to judge whether the official story was "possible"? Oh, that's right, absolutely none.

 

So you do believe the official story, I will proceed to write you off then. Tower 7 wasnt hit, fell into its own footprint soon after the others, was showing no sign of it directly before, the story suggests tinders went through a broken window and caused it to catch fire, burning the entire building down.

 

If you believe that, you dont use your brain. It doesnt take 1000 engineers (although there is a group of them about that size in agreement) to figure out its impossible. All 3 towers into their footprints demolition style... they were even designed to be hit by planes and not fall.

 

You know what happens when a building catches on fire and it doesnt get put out? A steel structure remains the next day

 

 

It wasnt even visibly on fire, tower 7. Only a complete idiot would take that at face value, the OS. It speaks volumes about your opinions worth on every single other subject, if you believe the OS.

 

 

I guess youve never heard of these guys either, if you want to argue proof, go talk to the engineers and architects who lined up and put their reputations on the line to say its impossible. Go tell them, with your degrees.

 

http://www.ae911truth.org/

 

Ill also remind you, you are part of the extreme minority who believes the OS and that they werent lied to or misled. One of the few who has held onto an ignorant belief for over a decade, without doing any real research. Its easy to spew a bunch of garbage like that while being ignorant, ask for degrees for something that is common sense and backed up by mountains of evidence, including the people who were actually there.

 

 

 

Ill just leave this here.

 

 

Feel free to call the first responders and victims liars.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 08:12 PM

Oh f*ck, when did the 9/11 conspiracy pop up here?

 

Well guys, I'm off this sinking ship, have fun!

 

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 08:21 PM Edited by biggsull, 11 December 2013 - 08:25 PM.

Oh f*ck, when did the 9/11 conspiracy pop up here?

 

Well guys, I'm off this sinking ship, have fun!

 

 

 

Theres no argument, I dont argue about 911 I write people off who believe the official story. Their opinions arent worth crap. If anything Im doing sivi a favor and hopefully he will see how ignorant it is to take the OS at face value, regardless of what really happened.Im actually happy I didnt have to read anything else he said because I know the type of person he is.

 

Watch that last video, its 1 of 2. I bet you get to the end and want to watch the second.

 

Protip: the BBC announced tower 7  fell 20 minutes before it fell. Explain that, O'Reilly.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 08:50 PM

Of course I've heard of AE911Truth. The problem with it is the lack of proper disclosure. All you have is a list of names. Are these people who they say they are? Do they exist at all? Do they possess the qualifications they claim to have? Even if all of these are answered-which they haven't been-that still makes for a minority. The overwhelming weight of scientific evidence and analysis backs the findings of the NIST report. No paper suggesting an alternate hypothesis in line with those suggested by conspiracy theorists has ever been presented in a reputable academic journal. That says more about the scientific value of such beliefs than I ever could.

Most if not all of your points in respect of Building 7 are addressed in the NIST report I already posted, so I see no reason to address them again until you properly evaluate them in light of that. Should that not be enough, may I also refer you to "Debunking 9/11" and the Popular Mechanics reports on 9/11 conspiracy theories? The former extensively references from peer review works and the latter has a list of external independent experts that no alternate theory has even got close to matching.

http://www.debunking911.com
http://www.popularme...ry/news/1227842

Should you be endowed with the desire to read something a little more wholesome, how about you have a read of the following book, based on the Popular Mechanics research and subject to peer review:

http://www.amazon.co...aw/d/158816635X

How about I provide you with an opportunity to state your case? You can provide me specific referenced and academically noteworthy sources that verify your claims that the official statement cannot be true, and you provide a reasonable, supported alternate hypothesis that doesn't come a cropper of any of the sources I've posted debunking popular myths and doesn't by virtue of snowball fallacy implicate about 10% of the entire world's population in the conspiracy and I'll be more than happy to hear it.

If not then I suggest you return to something at least approaching on topic.

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 08:52 PM

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Like I said, this isnt an argument. Ive already written you off, feel free to believe whatever you want, Ill just think less of your for it.

 

BBC announced tower 7 fell 20 mins before it fell. Nuff said.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:12 PM

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Like I said, this isnt an argument. Ive already written you off, feel free to believe whatever you want, Ill just think less of your for it.

 

BBC announced tower 7 fell 20 mins before it fell. Nuff said.

Boy well this sure proves your intellectual fortitude. How old are you, 15? I'll bet you're some middle class kid living in Belfast who thinks that he knows all he needs to about the troubles. Take your faux IRA bullsh*t and get the f*ck outta here.


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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:23 PM

You do realise that, by starting a debate and then refusing to engage with anyone who dares to question the authority of your completely unsubstantiated statements, you come across as a facile, insolent little child? It's the intellectual equivalent of throwing stones at someone and then hiding in a bin when they confront you. Pathetic.

Also, the BBC thing is a myth too. It's covered on both "Debunking 9/11" and the BBC's own website. Whilst I appreciate that the oafish amongst us who aren't capable of discerning the subtle nuances of speech,there's absolutely nothing in those claims that isn't quite handily addressed there and here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk...nspiracy_2.html

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Posted 11 December 2013 - 09:29 PM

Im not reading anything you say again chief, you think tower 7 collapsed from fire and hated me before I even posted in OT.

 

Enjoy Scotland breaking off, 2016 in Ireland. Just think where your rights will be in 2017.





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