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#121

Posted 08 December 2013 - 10:42 AM

I love the way you quote anti-Semitic hoaxes as if they were real. What next, you'll be quoting from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

They Never Said It: A Book of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, and Misleading Attribution- pp.14-16.
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And, seen as you appear to be rather fond of it:

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A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century (occasionally A Radical Program for the Twentieth Century) is an antisemitic hoax promoted by Eustace Mullins. It is often cited as "proof" of a Jewish and/or Communist plot against white Americans, in much the same way as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, another forged document, is used as "proof" of a Jewish global domination conspiracy.[1][2]


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Posted 08 December 2013 - 10:52 AM

I love the way you quote anti-Semitic hoaxes as if they were real. What next, you'll be quoting from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

They Never Said It: A Book of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, and Misleading Attribution- pp.14-16.
Congressional Records

And, seen as you appear to be rather fond of it:

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A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century (occasionally A Radical Program for the Twentieth Century) is an antisemitic hoax promoted by Eustace Mullins. It is often cited as "proof" of a Jewish and/or Communist plot against white Americans, in much the same way as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, another forged document, is used as "proof" of a Jewish global domination conspiracy.[1][2]



Well no sh*t! You dont think they're going to admit it do you? Let's see you disprove each of the other quotes then?


You do know that Henry Ford also wrote a book about the Jews? As did Martin Luther. Still, what would they know eh?

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 10:53 AM

 

I love the way you quote anti-Semitic hoaxes as if they were real. What next, you'll be quoting from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

They Never Said It: A Book of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, and Misleading Attribution- pp.14-16.
Congressional Records

And, seen as you appear to be rather fond of it:

Wikipedia
 

A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century (occasionally A Radical Program for the Twentieth Century) is an antisemitic hoax promoted by Eustace Mullins. It is often cited as "proof" of a Jewish and/or Communist plot against white Americans, in much the same way as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, another forged document, is used as "proof" of a Jewish global domination conspiracy.[1][2]



Well no sh*t! You dont think they're going to admit it do you? Let's see you disprove each of the other quotes then?


You do know that Henry Ford also wrote a book about the Jews? As did Martin Luther. Still, what would they know eh?

 

A renowned racist and a Christian. Boy, no bias there. I'll tell you what most people should have told Henry Ford: SHut the f*ck up and stick to making sh*tty cars, Henry.


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Posted 08 December 2013 - 10:56 AM

In 2003, a military historian, Martin van Creveld, thought that the Al-Aqsa Intifada then in progress threatened Israel's existence.[29] Van Creveld was quoted in David Hirst's The Gun and the Olive Branch (2003) as saying:

We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.[30]

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#125

Posted 08 December 2013 - 11:04 AM

You are aware that the edit button exists, right?


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#126

Posted 08 December 2013 - 11:07 AM

 

I love the way you quote anti-Semitic hoaxes as if they were real. What next, you'll be quoting from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion?

They Never Said It: A Book of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, and Misleading Attribution- pp.14-16.
Congressional Records

And, seen as you appear to be rather fond of it:

Wikipedia
 

A Racial Program for the Twentieth Century (occasionally A Radical Program for the Twentieth Century) is an antisemitic hoax promoted by Eustace Mullins. It is often cited as "proof" of a Jewish and/or Communist plot against white Americans, in much the same way as The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, another forged document, is used as "proof" of a Jewish global domination conspiracy.[1][2]



Well no sh*t! You dont think they're going to admit it do you? Let's see you disprove each of the other quotes then?


 

So you really believe that people said these things?  You are deluded.


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Posted 08 December 2013 - 11:07 AM

"These were ideas," the author notes, "which Marx would adopt and transform... Publicly and for political reasons, both Marx and Engels posed as friends of the Negro. In private, they were anti-Black racists of the most odious sort. They had contempt for the entire Negro Race, a contempt they expressed by comparing Negroes to animals, by identifying Black people with 'idiots' and by continuously using the opprobrious term 'ni**er' in their private correspondence." (Nathaniel Weyl).

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 11:12 AM

I hate to kill my rebel without a cause image, but surely this level of spamming and racism is going to catch a ban, right?


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Posted 08 December 2013 - 11:13 AM

"The fact is that the Jews were known only as destroyers in ancient history, not creators. They have developed no science, have produced no art, have built no great cities, and alone have no talent for the finer things of civilized life. The Jews claim to be the torchbearers of civilization, but thorough their parasitic habits have deteriorated or destroyed every nation in which they have existed in large numbers." (Charles A. Weisman, Who is Esau-Edom?, p. 28).

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 11:14 AM

I can't believe I am actually reading this. How the f*ck do Jews destroy societies?

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 11:18 AM

I hate to kill my rebel without a cause image, but surely this level of spamming and racism is going to catch a ban, right?

I hope so. Is it just me or lately there are a lot of ignorant racists and white nationalist c*nts around?


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#132

Posted 08 December 2013 - 11:20 AM

This topic is to discuss / mourn the death of Nelson Mandela, something of which we've seen very little of the last few pages.

 

JockTheRipper, if you value your account here please don't post in this topic again or any of that tripe elsewhere on the forums.

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 11:38 AM Edited by Nale Dixon, 08 December 2013 - 11:38 AM.

 

I hate to kill my rebel without a cause image, but surely this level of spamming and racism is going to catch a ban, right?


Put that race card back in your pocket son.

 

put your head back up your arse.

 

RIP Nelson Mandela.


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Posted 08 December 2013 - 11:57 AM

Reading the last few pages has made me incredibly angry. Moreso than any other post I can remember on these forums. 

 

Any impressionable people reading, please ignore that vociferous c*nt and lets get back to the purpose of this topic.

 

To our South African members, do you think the country faces a crisis in the years to come without Mandela's presence as a figurehead? My Aunt is South African (Actually she used to work as an agent for the ANC, translating Newspapers from Afrikaans to English and then distributing them while she was at University in England so that the vicious stories of apartheid would be heard by the international community) and she believes that over the next few years interracial violence in SA will shoot up now Mandela can't exert his calming influence on the nation. She is white and has family over there so she is pretty worried.  What do you guys think?


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#135

Posted 08 December 2013 - 12:50 PM Edited by sivispacem, 08 December 2013 - 12:56 PM.

Jock, the work Henry Ford published was The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. You've kind of inadvertantly proven my point about your bigotry. What you have in essence said is "this work isn't a hoax, there are other works to confirm this" and then referenced another hoax.

It's actually kind of hilarious watching you squirm.

Back on the actual topic, I can't be the only person to notice the disparity between the teachings and intent of Mandela and the path taken by many of the regional leaders. Just look at Zimbabwe whose independence and transition to majority rule owes so much to Mandela. It's depressing to see how his message has been abused by the likes of Mugabe to commit borderline genocide.
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Posted 08 December 2013 - 01:44 PM

@Max - I can't see interracial violence happening now that Mandela is gone man. I don't know where that fear came from, because I've heard about it quite a few times in the last couple of years.

Despite the high crime rate, corruption, poverty, e-tolls (haha) etc, South Africans have become stronger and more united for a great number of years now. Still a very long way to go to solve all the problems caused by events in the past, but I believe this country will only get stronger and better in years to come... We do need great leadership though, and that's something that's been lacking ever since the end of Mandela's term as president. I didn't actually mind Mbeki as president. He wasn't that bad, but he certainly wasn't that good either. Our politicians have become way to weak, greedy and corrupt and the government at the moment is a joke as far as I'm concerned.

All in all, SA is a great country and I wouldn't wanna live anywhere else. SA ROCKS! :cool:

@sivis - agreed man. That delusional scumbag Mugabe has totally destroyed his own country and even after he's gone, it's gonna take decades for Zimbabwe to get back on its feet. Here in SA certain individuals like Malema also loves to abuse the teachings of Mandela to further his own personal agenda.

Anyway, I saw this old vid on youtube. Made me smile :D


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Posted 08 December 2013 - 04:29 PM Edited by D- Ice, 08 December 2013 - 04:29 PM.

"...They have developed no science,

Albert Einstein and his General Theory of Relativity.

 

 

 

...have produced no art,

Jacques Offenbach.

 

 

 

...have built no great cities,

Kingdom of Israel.

 

I can easily continue disporoving most your claims with simple searches on Wikipedia, but I am sure you can find ways of distancing all these from the Jewish people/culture/religion.

 

For the sake of arguement, I will give you a major benefit of the doubt and assume for now that Einstein, Offenbach and the Iron-Age Kingdom of Israel are all figments of my imagination.

Do you think that not contributing to the classical notion of science, art, and not building great cities in any way makes them inferior human beings?

Great scientists, artists, etc... are not a reflection of the entire social groups in which they belong, rather their own talents, opportunities and circumstances as individuals. Culture does affect them, and is a major determinant of peoples either building cities or living agrarian lives in huts. However, culture in itself is an adaptation to people's circumstances, natural environments and interactions with other peoples.

So if you really look into it, all these things are ultimately determined by natural phenomena outside of people's controls - there is not such thing as superior or inferior cultures or peoples - the great Roman Empire, it's people and culture weren't superior to that of Native Americans who were living in Neolithic and pre-Neolithic societies at the time (and until much later).

JockTheRipper, if you want to continue this discussion, please start a dedicated topic in the more appropriate Debates & Discussion section of this forum.

 

Apologies for this off-topic rant, but really annoys me how nationalists on the internet and in real life try listing famous people from their ethncitiy, country, religion, or any other social group as proof that they are superior.

It is also annoying when people use a certain person's greatness as justification that anything coming from their mouth - even things they are no experts in - are automatically true. Like JockTheRipper refering to the political stance of Henry Ford. While he was indeed a great industrial innovator and entrepreneur, his politcal views are not automatically correct, and he probably knew much less about politics than many average people.

 

On-Topic: Sivispacem, I completely agree on how many people exploit the names of popular ideologies and famous people to make their unsavoury personal agendas more palatable. I personally think this is in fact far more common than most people think. I can only see this continuing as long as people continue to judge things based on arbitrary and superficial connections (as I try explaining in my rant to JockTheRipper above).


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Posted 08 December 2013 - 09:02 PM

Jock is single-hanedly trying to turn GTAForums into Stormfront. I love it.

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 10:15 PM

Kirsty has asked me not to post on this thread again, and I can respect that, and will obey that. I must however answer my detractors in one final post. If I get banned, then so be it.

 

1. Henry Ford never printed the protocols, he wrote a book called 'The International Jew'.

2. Yes, I am a Stormfront member, and have almost 3,000 posts on the site. Anyone interested in the culture and achievements of the white race should sign up. Be warned though, they are a tough crowd, and will make mince meat out of even the greatest troll that frequents this forum.

3. Very little I have posted here represents my own opinion. They are all quotes from other sources. If I were to post my own opinions and thoughts I would be banned instantly, not because my views are extreme, but because my views don't sit well with the politically correct brigade that seem to dominate everything and anything that is considered mainstream.

4. I pity the white race and their self destructive ways. As an example, I like to refer to the Trayvon Martin case. So desperate were the zionist media to find a white on black race crime, that they turned George Zimmerman into a white man, rather than tell the truth about him being Hispanic. They assasinated his character so utterly and completely that he now has to fear for his life because he defended himself against a black thug.

5. The fact is, that white on black crime is a very rare occurence in America, where as black on white crime, especially rape and robbery, is very much prevalent every day. (See the stats).

6. Jews run Hollywood, the porn industry, the Federal Reserve, they have major influence through AIPAC, they own the publishing houses, 4 of the major 5 newspaper conglomerates are Jewish owned, and the 5th, run by Rupert Murdoch is as pro zionist as they get!

 

I have so much more to say, but this will be my last post in this thread, so feel free to flame away and berate my character. If any of you have any balls though, you will send me a PM and we can continue this discussion in private.


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Posted 08 December 2013 - 10:19 PM Edited by UtricularEwe001, 08 December 2013 - 10:21 PM.

Just stop, no one cares about Jews and Israel in a Nelson Mandela topic.

Go back to 4chan with your tin foil hat.

@to everyone, pls don't reply to this clown

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 10:35 PM Edited by xXGst0395Xx, 08 December 2013 - 10:38 PM.

5. The fact is, that white on black crime is a very rare occurence in America, where as black on white crime, especially rape and robbery, is very much prevalent every day. (See the stats).

Well that may be, white-on-white crime is alot more common than both. The majority of violent is intraracial, so most white victims of murder and rape are victimised by other whites as backed up by FBI and BOJ statistics. You never seemed to mention that.


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#142

Posted 09 December 2013 - 08:27 AM

1. Henry Ford never printed the protocols, he wrote a book called 'The International Jew'.

Actually, "The International Jew was the title he used for the English/Americanised translation of The Protocols. Brief history. More proof, should one need it, that you've got precisely f*ck all clue what you're talking about.

2. Yes, I am a Stormfront member, and have almost 3,000 posts on the site. Anyone interested in the culture and achievements of the white race should sign up. Be warned though, they are a tough crowd, and will make mince meat out of even the greatest troll that frequents this forum.

As I've already said once, "white" isn't a race, it's a group of races. Also, 'fessing up to being a neo-Nazi doesn't really do your credibility much good.

3. Very little I have posted here represents my own opinion.

Then why post them?

They are all quotes from other sources.

Most of which are misquotes, hoaxes, incorrectly attributed, out of context or simply lies.

If I were to post my own opinions and thoughts I would be banned instantly, not because my views are extreme, but because my views don't sit well with the politically correct brigade that seem to dominate everything and anything that is considered mainstream.

Right, so it's got nothing to do with the fact you're a vile bigot with racial delusions so obvious for anyone even vaguely educated that they border on the farcical, or the fact that you seem incapable of determining fact from fiction; hang onto anti-Semitic hoaxes with tenacious belief even though they've been known to be lies in one case for over 120 years? Yes, I'm sure the conspiracy of international Jews is out to persecute all red-blooded white males and it isn't just a figment of your ignorance or delusional state. I'm thoroughly convinced the reason you haven't managed to produce any actual proof for most of your claims is that the entire academic community is run by those who seek to see the white "race" destroyed.

Or not.

4. I pity the white race and their self destructive ways. As an example, I like to refer to the Trayvon Martin case. So desperate were the zionist media to find a white on black race crime, that they turned George Zimmerman into a white man, rather than tell the truth about him being Hispanic. They assasinated [sic] his character so utterly and completely that he now has to fear for his life because he defended himself against a black thug.

Hispanics are white. The only place people of Iberian heritage aren't considered "white" is in the US.

5. The fact is, that white on black crime is a very rare occurence [sic] in America, where as black on white crime, especially rape and robbery, is very much prevalent every day. (See the stats).

The stats that you completely fail to provide? Also, correlation does not equal causality. Even if you had provided statistics that demonstrate your point- which is moot because you haven't- you'd need to demonstrate that these figures were directly attributable to the race of the people involved and not to any other factor.

6. Jews run Hollywood, the porn industry, the Federal Reserve, they have major influence through AIPAC, they own the publishing houses, 4 of the major 5 newspaper conglomerates are Jewish owned, and the 5th, run by Rupert Murdoch is as pro zionist as they get!

All apparent statements of "fact", none supported with any evidence. So where's your "proof" of this global conspiracy? The same place I imagine every other bit of your argument is- inside your own imagination.
 

I have so much more to say, but this will be my last post in this thread, so feel free to flame away and berate my character. If any of you have any balls though, you will send me a PM and we can continue this discussion in private.

Then may I take the opportunity to congratulate you on vindicating my views with regard to the members of the Stormfront community? I'd always assumed they were the kind of inbred, knuckle-dragging, thick-as-pig-sh*t imbeciles who would blindly put near religious faith into proven hoaxes and the vile diatribes of bitter, deluded men with no authority to speak on the subject at all. The entire f*cking movement is built on pandering to the stupid, producing scapegoats for idiots to try and absolve them from the responsibility of the festering sh*t they've turned their lives into through their own stupidity. Your utterly incoherent, illogical and usually downright incorrect ramblings over the last few pages have demonstrated this pretty handily.

In one respect I feel almost sorry for you for believing in such utter tripe. On the other hand, the only reason you believe it is through your own ignorance, so you have only yourself to blame.

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 01:40 AM

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 07:27 AM

At home today to watch the memorial service. :)

Gloomy, wet day over here...

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 11:45 AM Edited by F4L?, 10 December 2013 - 01:11 PM.

So Kanye West says he is the next Nelson Mandela, he is seriously insane. Wtf

""I am the next Nelson Mandela," West responded. "I'm only 36 years old, and when I look at everything I've accomplished, it's the only comparison that makes any sense. By the time I'm 95, I'm going to be a bigger hero than he ever was.

"Nelson Mandela did a lot of good work, don't get me wrong. But I think I'm on track to do something even bigger. I liberate minds with my music. That's more important than liberating a few people from apartheid or whatever."

 

http://dailycurrant....nelson-mandela/

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 11:50 AM

So Kanye West says he is the next Nelson Mandela, he is seriously insane. Wtf

""I am the next Nelson Mandela," West responded. "I'm only 36 years old, and when I look at everything I've accomplished, it's the only comparison that makes any sense. By the time I'm 95, I'm going to be a bigger hero than he ever was.

"Nelson Mandela did a lot of good work, don't get me wrong. But I think I'm on track to do something even bigger. I liberate minds with my music. That's more important than liberating a few people from apartheid or whatever."

 

http://dailycurrant....nelson-mandela/

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:05 PM Edited by Werebot85, 10 December 2013 - 01:16 PM.

Kanye who? He's a nobody

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 12:45 PM

Obama's speech was truly magnificent.


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Posted 10 December 2013 - 01:06 PM

Obama's speech was truly magnificent.


Yes it was. The only speech that kept me awake haha!

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Posted 10 December 2013 - 01:09 PM

 

So Kanye West says he is the next Nelson Mandela, he is seriously insane. Wtf

""I am the next Nelson Mandela," West responded. "I'm only 36 years old, and when I look at everything I've accomplished, it's the only comparison that makes any sense. By the time I'm 95, I'm going to be a bigger hero than he ever was.

"Nelson Mandela did a lot of good work, don't get me wrong. But I think I'm on track to do something even bigger. I liberate minds with my music. That's more important than liberating a few people from apartheid or whatever."

 

http://dailycurrant....nelson-mandela/

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I just realized that it was on The Daily Currant, which is a fake newsite. God damnit.





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