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Posted 04 December 2013 - 01:05 AM

Hey guys, I wasn't so sure where to place this thread since I'm looking for some serious advice and Gen-chat is full of pisstakers.

 

So I need some advice about possibly (in the future) immigrating to America permanently and because there are American users on GTAF thought I could kindly ask here for a little more detailed information.

 

I'm a UK Citizen looking to immigrate to America (Yes another one), not now, possibly in the future when I'm older.

 

I've been on multiple websites, not knowing if they're real or not, to see about obtaining a Green Card and to see about the different visas available.

 

Mainly USCIS.

 

Now, I know that in order to even be eligible to a Green Card there are certain requirements needed to be met.

 

But (and here's the problem) I have no-one who can sponsor me, no American relatives or spouses, no offer of employment and I certainly do not have the money to invest in a business.

 

I also understand it could take a seriously long time (Years) in order for my Green Card application to be processed.

 

Is there absolutely in no way, shape or form that unless I am related to an American citizen or have an offer of employment that I can apply for a GC?

 

It seems that everyone else but me gets on smoothly when immigrating to another country,

 

I have relatives in Canada, which is so annoying since America is right next to her and they got on fine with immigrating there, although I don't know what steps are needed to immigrate to Canada, I also have relatives in Portugal.

 

Surely there's been UK citizens like me who have made the switch without having American relatives, an offer of employment or not had the money to invest in a business over the pond?

 

Any help from people who've been in this situation themselves or American citizens who know how this stuff works please feel free to chip in, I could really do with a bit of insight into this situation.

 

Please, no stupid/silly replies.


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 08:07 AM

Moved from D&D to General Chat, it doesn't belong here.

 

Long story short, you need to meet the requisite criteria for a green card. If you don't you can't have one. Simple as that.


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 09:02 AM

Immigrate to America if you want to be mediocre.


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 09:34 AM

Join the US Army.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:00 AM

Join the US Army.

You won't get security clearance unless you've been a US citizen for 8 years, unless you hold it with another (usually FIVE-EYES) nation and are seconded from the armed forces or intelligence community by mutual agreement.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:05 AM

Hook up with a US girl on the internet. Get married.
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Posted 04 December 2013 - 10:22 AM

Isn't a Green Card for citizenship, though? Surely you can just go over as a resident.


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:09 AM Edited by sivispacem, 04 December 2013 - 11:09 AM.

Green Card is a permanent residency permit, nothing to do with citizenship AFAIK. Need one for permanent residency if you aren't a citizen, employment is basically a prerequisite.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:48 AM

Why would you WANT to live in America? Or the UK?

 

Buncha slack-jawed liberal feminists trying to turn us into Nazi Germany over here in the US.


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:51 AM

Come to Australia, it's easier, plus a better economy. 


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:53 AM

Come to Australia, it's easier, plus a better economy. 

I've heard is really difficult to emigrate to Australia. I'd go to Canada...


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 11:53 AM

Why would you WANT to live in America? Or the UK?
 
Buncha slack-jawed liberal feminists trying to turn us into Nazi Germany over here in the US.


That makes no sense. If they're liberal, how can they be turning the US into an illiberal system? It's utterly contradictory.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 12:24 PM

 

Come to Australia, it's easier, plus a better economy. 

I've heard is really difficult to emigrate to Australia. I'd go to Canada...

 

Not if you're British. I'm not sure if Brits are still immune to deportation, but your odds of being deported are pretty much nil.


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 01:58 PM

It's more or less impossible for 99% of the population to immigrate with a greencard. And even if you could, it would take a f*ckload of time, even years. Your best bet is trying to get a hold of a tourist visa and marrying a US citizen here. I think a US citizen can petition you also, if you're planning to get married. The plus side is that since you're most likely white (UK), you're not gonna be discriminated against as much as a Mexican or non-white immigrant, doubt you'd get the boot unless you're obnoxious.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 01:58 PM Edited by ChopTheDog., 04 December 2013 - 02:01 PM.

Green Card is a permanent residency permit, nothing to do with citizenship AFAIK. Need one for permanent residency if you aren't a citizen, employment is basically a prerequisite.

 

How am I meant to get employment in a country which I don't reside?

 

In fact, how is anyone who doesn't reside in America meant to get an offer of employment there.

 

It's more or less impossible for 99% of the population to immigrate with a greencard. And even if you could, it would take a f*ckload of time, even years. Your best bet is trying to get a hold of a tourist visa and marrying a US citizen here. I think a US citizen can petition you also, if you're planning to get married. The plus side is that since you're most likely white (UK), you're not gonna be discriminated against as much as a Mexican or non-white immigrant, doubt you'd get the boot unless you're obnoxious.

 

So anyone who is an American citizen can petition for me, they don't have to be relatives?


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 02:09 PM

I don't know? Apply for a job there perhaps. But don't bother applying for a job that isn't specialised and/or doesn't require a university degree (preferably graduate or PhD), because you're A. not going to get hired and B. no employer in his right mind is going to cover the expenses of you moving and finding housing. 

 

So realistically unless you have 500k to invest in property, or close relatives in the US - you're basically not getting a green card.

 

Of course you can always take a shot at the green card lottery, but don't get your hopes up, the chances of you winning that are minute.


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 02:13 PM

You might be able to transfer if you work for a company with offices in the US as well as the UK. 


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 02:21 PM Edited by ChopTheDog., 04 December 2013 - 02:21 PM.

So realistically unless you have 500k to invest in property

 

I thought you needed to invest in a business, not buy a property?


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 02:30 PM

 

So realistically unless you have 500k to invest in property

 

I thought you needed to invest in a business, not buy a property?

 

 

Correct, my bad.  http://www.uscis.gov...igrant-investor


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 02:32 PM


Green Card is a permanent residency permit, nothing to do with citizenship AFAIK. Need one for permanent residency if you aren't a citizen, employment is basically a prerequisite.

 
How am I meant to get employment in a country which I don't reside?
 
In fact, how is anyone who doesn't reside in America meant to get an offer of employment there.

By applying to work for a company based in the states? I know several people who've applied for jobs in the US, working for US companies, who have been given permanent residency and eventually applied for citizenship.

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Posted 04 December 2013 - 02:36 PM

 

 

Green Card is a permanent residency permit, nothing to do with citizenship AFAIK. Need one for permanent residency if you aren't a citizen, employment is basically a prerequisite.

 
How am I meant to get employment in a country which I don't reside?
 
In fact, how is anyone who doesn't reside in America meant to get an offer of employment there.

By applying to work for a company based in the states? I know several people who've applied for jobs in the US, working for US companies, who have been given permanent residency and eventually applied for citizenship.

 

 

I didn't even know it was possible to apply from the UK to work for a company based in the states..


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 02:49 PM Edited by Raavi, 04 December 2013 - 02:51 PM.

 

 

 

Green Card is a permanent residency permit, nothing to do with citizenship AFAIK. Need one for permanent residency if you aren't a citizen, employment is basically a prerequisite.

 
How am I meant to get employment in a country which I don't reside?
 
In fact, how is anyone who doesn't reside in America meant to get an offer of employment there.

By applying to work for a company based in the states? I know several people who've applied for jobs in the US, working for US companies, who have been given permanent residency and eventually applied for citizenship.

 

 

I didn't even know it was possible to apply from the UK to work for a company based in the states..

 

 

Provided there are no (regional) residency conditions, that is.


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 02:57 PM

You know, you could always just go over as a tourist and find a job. I'm fairly certain that the overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants are from Britain and Ireland, and they tend not to get deported.


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 03:10 PM

You know, you could always just go over as a tourist and find a job. I'm fairly certain that the overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants are from Britain and Ireland, and they tend not to get deported.

 

Then I'm f*cked when my visa runs out?

 

I can't just get on a plane, find a job, rent an apartment and stay there..


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 03:18 PM


You know, you could always just go over as a tourist and find a job. I'm fairly certain that the overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants are from Britain and Ireland, and they tend not to get deported.

 
Then I'm f*cked when my visa runs out?
 
I can't just get on a plane, find a job, rent an apartment and stay there..

Actually you could. You could go there on a fixed work visa, find an employer who will sponsor you for a green card if you want to remain an expatriate or citizenship if you want that. But it would provably have to be a highly skilled role.
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Posted 04 December 2013 - 03:21 PM

 

 

You know, you could always just go over as a tourist and find a job. I'm fairly certain that the overwhelming majority of illegal immigrants are from Britain and Ireland, and they tend not to get deported.

 
Then I'm f*cked when my visa runs out?
 
I can't just get on a plane, find a job, rent an apartment and stay there..

Actually you could. You could go there on a fixed work visa, find an employer who will sponsor you for a green card if you want to remain an expatriate or citizenship if you want that. But it would provably have to be a highly skilled role.

 

 

I'm only skilled in IT but I have no formal qualifications to prove it and even then IT isn't as much of a "Highly skilled role" as someone with medical qualifications and such.


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 03:49 PM

why do you want to immigrate to america from uk? i'm not asking why america i'm asking why not uk? no offense just curioustiy


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 03:57 PM Edited by Nale Dixon, 04 December 2013 - 03:58 PM.

The only way a person in your position is going to be able to work and live in America legally is by marrying a US citizen. Of course you could do something like go to the US on holiday using the 3  month Visa waiver, leave the country for three months then re-enter ad infinitum, but you'd need a cash in hand job for that.


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 03:59 PM Edited by ChopTheDog., 04 December 2013 - 03:59 PM.

why do you want to immigrate to america from uk? i'm not asking why america i'm asking why not uk? no offense just curioustiy

 

The UK is sh*t.

 

I've always had an weird obsession with America, it's layout, the different states, it's history.

I'd love to visit Dealey Plaza, Dallas, Texas and New york.

Knowing that I don't have a time limit because I don't have to return to the UK.

 

Ever since I was a young boy I wanted to live in America.

 

Is it really f*cked up that I'm angry at myself for not being born in America?

I'm extremely saddened by the fact that it is quite hard to immigrate there.

 

It feels like I was meant to be born a US Citizen and that America is my home, no where else. 


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Posted 04 December 2013 - 04:02 PM

Only two countries I'd bother trying to immigrate to are Switzerland or Japan but that's next to impossible unless you have a high-demand trade or job to offer them.





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