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Posted 15 December 2013 - 03:48 AM Edited by bigfoot2003, 15 December 2013 - 03:49 AM.

This is getting ambitious...Since there's too many variation and configurations, there are some deviations on details, but now it feels more like a bus than the older model. Polycount grows to 40K (mainly more details and 3D undercarriage, im doing the best i can to shave some geometries) but wont get too far because most of the modeling is done im getting ready for UV mapping and texture mapping soon. Hopefully in game will follow.

 

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Posted 15 December 2013 - 12:19 PM

Damn, this looks great! I love busses since they're the ''almighty'' on the road hehe. Looking great, and as always; deepest respect for your skills! :D


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Posted 16 December 2013 - 03:53 AM

2048 texture is not enough, I had the entire length of the bus and the resolution is barely adequate...

 

which livery suits the best?

 

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Posted 16 December 2013 - 05:13 PM

Second. White 'n blue. Definitely! But is it an NYC bus?


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Posted 16 December 2013 - 05:50 PM

Second. White 'n blue. Definitely! But is it an NYC bus?

Yep, MTA paint job.


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Posted 17 December 2013 - 01:11 AM

 

 

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The advertisment on the side is hilarious to me. It's presumably showing foreign speakers how to learn english with an ENGLISH advertisment.


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Posted 17 December 2013 - 04:35 AM Edited by bigfoot2003, 17 December 2013 - 04:38 AM.

@universe yes indeed, mayba I should include it, it fits well with GTA :)

 

here's another MTA CIRCA 1975 (or the peak of disco craze) I wonder what are those strange things on top (I know the AC unit at the back)

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 06:08 AM Edited by bigfoot2003, 17 December 2013 - 06:18 AM.

Her'es the NYC transit livery, some GTAV ads. Im trying to make the body user friendly to repaint. The lines are now normal maps.

 

edit: ignore the blue thing going thru the rear fender, fixed it.

 

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Posted 17 December 2013 - 06:24 AM

One word....... Beautiful


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Posted 18 December 2013 - 07:19 AM Edited by bigfoot2003, 18 December 2013 - 07:21 AM.

Grrrrrrr im too slow...im hoping to start texture mapping the interior really soon. looks like the total triangles stops at 45K.

 

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 08:51 AM

I've found some classic pictures that perhaps may be useful.

 

GMC Fishbowl

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GM Classic

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More pictures: http://www.flickr.co...ith/8119532584/


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Posted 18 December 2013 - 09:18 AM

Thanks roadrunner, this helps me a lot. looks like I have to darken the blue part a bit. Wondering which one is better for the front end, a MTA logo or advertisement?

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Posted 18 December 2013 - 09:23 AM

I'd say the logo looks nicer.


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Posted 18 December 2013 - 05:32 PM

Trasnit! =D

Haha, made a typo there, mate. Lookin' very very good, though! Might wanna make an add sign on the front as well! As an extra or something. Cooler could be an extra too. Hey, could you do an LC version as well? (Change all ''New York'' to ''Liberty City'') =^)


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Posted 18 December 2013 - 07:02 PM

Looks Perfect Nice 3d Modeling!


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Posted 18 December 2013 - 09:28 PM Edited by bigfoot2003, 18 December 2013 - 09:29 PM.

@almost @tyler thanks :)

@compeastA LC version a possibility. I already filled with gta4 and gta5 advertisement. I might need your help if I can get this bus multi livery function. I will put the front sign at the front with old MTA logo on it. I already model large rooftop mounted advertisement.

I wonder if gta5 have a near equivalent for Santa Monica?

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Posted 19 December 2013 - 12:21 AM

SWEET!!!


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Posted 22 December 2013 - 05:44 PM

Been studying the gta4 bus and I have to add an engine and a boot. Fortunately I have a photo of a classic with an engine taken off. Just a partial 3d engine nothing crazy. Next screen hopefully in game.
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Posted 22 December 2013 - 06:22 PM

The engine is in the back of busses like that, right? I know that's the case with a school bus I ride, but I don't know much else. I'd be surprised if it were different though.

Considering that, what circumstances would allow the player to see the engine, only time I saw any vehicle's engine in IV were when the hood came off.

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 02:01 AM

@universetwister  The way the boot opens, the chance seeing the engine is very low, unless the bus blows up. placing the engine at rear usually preferred because of easy access and better packaging.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 02:45 AM

@universetwister  The way the boot opens, the chance seeing the engine is very low, unless the bus blows up. placing the engine at rear usually preferred because of easy access and better packaging.

So the only way to see the hood is if the bus blows up? Ahh, alright.

 

I knew cabover semi trucks had their motors under the cab for easier visibility and less space, just didn't know what the whole story was with busses.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 05:12 AM Edited by bigfoot2003, 23 December 2013 - 05:12 AM.

 

@universetwister  The way the boot opens, the chance seeing the engine is very low, unless the bus blows up. placing the engine at rear usually preferred because of easy access and better packaging.

So the only way to see the hood is if the bus blows up? Ahh, alright.

 

I knew cabover semi trucks had their motors under the cab for easier visibility and less space, just didn't know what the whole story was with busses.

 

 

I found it from wikipedia: Buses were initially configured with an engine in the front and an entrance at the rear. With the transition to one-man operation, many manufacturers moved to mid or rear-engined designs, with a single door at the front, or multiple doors. The move to the low-floor design has all but eliminated the mid-engined design, although some coaches still have mid mounted engines. Front-engined buses still persist for niche markets such as American school buses, some minibuses, and buses in less developed countries, which may be derived from truck chassis, rather than purpose-built bus designs. Most buses have two axles, articulated buses have three.

 

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 07:23 AM Edited by ALMOST610, 23 December 2013 - 07:26 AM.

Yeah, All buses I have ever seen in Australia have had the engines at the rear, I know some old Historical ones were front engined.

 

Here is something interesting, Its an Australian version of the Fishbowl built by Ansair, it gives an idea about another perspective.

 

http://www.busaustra...hilit=mckenzies

http://www.busaustra...hp?f=10&t=30511

http://www.gminsiden...nowledge-40462/

 

The third link has an opened engine bay shot with an engine but I dont think it will be too relative to your model. Just thought it would be interesting to share

 

Edit: It should be noted I think they were more designed (atleast the ones I found) for Coach duties rather than Bus Route work, plus McKenzies is more of a country operator than city so the stops would have been spaced apart a bit more than city.


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Posted 23 December 2013 - 03:37 PM

Yeah, All buses I have ever seen in Australia have had the engines at the rear, I know some old Historical ones were front engined.

That's because they have the hood (like the old III bus), or did for some magical reason the cabovers have the motors in the front?

 

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Posted 23 December 2013 - 05:33 PM Edited by bigfoot2003, 23 December 2013 - 05:42 PM.

@almost610 very interesting Aussie buses. the front end is the only thing similar to GM New look, everything else almost different, got a nice large windows! Roadrunner posted some NYC buses, one of them is made by GM's competitor Flxible (below) and it looked remotely identical to GM New Look, the reason is GM kind of lost an anti-trust case and ordered to share their technologies and designs to the rivals.

 

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@universetwister Flat front buses and cab over trucks can be confusing. Cab over trucks, are by default, are front engine.

 

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From below: Not all flat front buses are rear engined. The top part, is the common rear engined bus. The middle is the front engined bus, usually based on truck chassis. Below is the mid engined buses. Low floor buses are strictly rear engine for obvious reason.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted 24 December 2013 - 02:55 AM

Ahh, it all makes sense now.

 

I bet you'd have to have your valuables secured in a cabover, though. It'd suck to have all your stuff fall through the windshield each time you checked the engine. Not to mention it must also get hot with the motor under the seat


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 04:39 AM

the drivers becomes a crumple zone when crashed into a tree, a wall or rear of a truck trailer.


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 02:18 PM

the drivers becomes a crumple zone when crashed into a tree, a wall or rear of a truck trailer.

Isn't that why they haven't made a cabover semi truck in America since the 80s?

 

I know it's a whole different story in Europe, though


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Posted 24 December 2013 - 08:14 PM

 

the drivers becomes a crumple zone when crashed into a tree, a wall or rear of a truck trailer.

Isn't that why they haven't made a cabover semi truck in America since the 80s?

 

I know it's a whole different story in Europe, though

 

 

I think so, though they are not roll over resistant, the cab crush easily. In Europe is a necessity because it keep the length shorter and lighter.


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Posted 25 December 2013 - 03:19 PM

 

 

the drivers becomes a crumple zone when crashed into a tree, a wall or rear of a truck trailer.

Isn't that why they haven't made a cabover semi truck in America since the 80s?

 

I know it's a whole different story in Europe, though

 

 

I think so, though they are not roll over resistant, the cab crush easily. In Europe is a necessity because it keep the length shorter and lighter.

 

I wanna say that either Iveco, Volvo, or DAF makes long-hooded trucks for the European market. Volvo most likely, seeing as I imagine Scandinavian roads being bigger than Dutch or Italian roads.

 

Oh, lovely Europe. So many times, have you distracted me from my current projects.





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