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Posted 13 November 2013 - 10:59 PM Edited by scubadave, 12 May 2014 - 05:39 AM.

Why is the target told that mercenaries have been sent to attack them? Is that realistic? It detracts from the whole feature.

 

Also, we really need to be able to call Lamar and order a drive by on people. Again, without warning. Random car just pulls up beside you, windows lower, etc.

 

UPDATES from discussion:

  • DRIVE BY by LAMAR
    • Similar to the mercenaries, but possibly cheaper and less powerful?
    • It would be a one-shot attack vs. a team of mercs hunting you down
    • You would not be warned about like you do with the mercs. So, it may actually be more effective
    • Deluxe Drive By: A car/bus/suv blocks your path or rams you from the side, then another SUV blocks you in from behind, then they all open fire on you then drive off

  • LESTER
    • Car bomb that you can send anywhere on the map. NPC drives car to location, gets out and runs, boom. And the location can be a moving blip where the NPC will follow your target and tail him and boom.

    • Call up a 5-star wanted level on a player which sends the full 5-star cop force at them and they cannot undo with a Lester call. And it lasts a certain number of minutes, regardless of # of deaths. So you can't just die to get rid of them. They will continue to harass you for 10 minutes straight.

  • MERCENARIES
    • Take off the red dots
    • Don't warn the target
    • Add power to them, they have been underpowered since January
    • Lower the cost
    • Good as a distraction
    • Give them tanks
    • Give them Buzzards that actually work, the Air Support feature has never worked properly
  • OTHER CONTRIBUTIONS/MISCELLANY
    • fw3 - "Hire Assassin," similar to the mugger but much more deadly and who can follow a player across servers or if the player quits, re-engages (like a bounty) when the player comes back. Perhaps the asssasin is either a sniper on a rooftop or some SMG-wielding person just as you pull into LSC.

    • CarimboHanky - lamar should have more gang options, drive bys, have a couple goons escort you or send some goons to attack a player, much like the mercs but less effective and more cheaper.

    • Sh4d0wX32111 - I want to pay Lamar to get all the gangsters in downtown to fire automatically at anyone who passes by for 5-10 minutes or I want Lamar to set traps (gangsters waiting at a specific location on the map you can choose from, excluding some off limit areas) that will fire at possible threats. Lastly I want Lamar to get me more doggy treats for chop.

    • TomKongPhooey - it would be nice if the drive-by was done by you tho. The car picks you up and automatically takes you off the radar. They then get to the target and you complete the drive-by meaning that 1) you get the satisfaction/disgrace of the kill/miss and 2) there is a chance of actually missing the shot and not the dreaded accuracy of the NPC's shooting skills. They then drop you off a block or two away again and your white blip comes back on. Now I'd like that to be implemented. deffo :-)

    • Add in an apartment invasion feature from Lamar
    • Allow buzzard strikes through apartment windows
    • Tank Back-Up: Call them up and they arrive in 4-5 tanks and shoot any players in a four block radius
    • Drones
    • Call Lester up to remote turn off player's cars

 

 

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:03 PM

I like that drive by idea!

Maybe in a "Hood Gon' Love It" DLC
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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:04 PM

Good points.
I always thought having the target being warned about you sending mercenaries being annoying ... would definitely do without it !

 

About the Lamar mechanic you're talking about ... wouldn't that be a bit redundant, since it sounds a lot like what Merry Weather mercenaries already do.

 

Anyway, if you're looking on suggesting improvements to Freemode mechanics such as these, I recommend joining us at the Suggestions to Improve Freemode thread. We've been putting together a nice list of suggestions of this type since a few weeks :)


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:10 PM

How about a roll down your damn windows feature lol  I'm tired of fixing my car, only to have a passenger bust a window out to shoot at some stranger.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:16 PM

Good points.
I always thought having the target being warned about you sending mercenaries being annoying ... would definitely do without it !

 

About the Lamar mechanic you're talking about ... wouldn't that be a bit redundant, since it sounds a lot like what Merry Weather mercenaries already do.

 

Anyway, if you're looking on suggesting improvements to Freemode mechanics such as these, I recommend joining us at the Suggestions to Improve Freemode thread. We've been putting together a nice list of suggestions of this type since a few weeks :)

 

yeah the drive-by is similar to the mercenaries maybe cheaper and less effective? basically its a one shot deal since they wont hunt you done, they'lll spray then take off. also, if ur not warned about it like you get warned with merryweather, then actually more effective.

 

ill take a look at that thread.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:19 PM

Drive by seems like the same as mercenaries. I don't see it happening.


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:20 PM

I think drive-by options from Lamar would actually be more advanced than Mercenaries. Higher-level unlock (say, level 75 or 80), and a car that looks like every other car driving around would just pull up, stop, and open fire on the target. No radar warning, no warning message, no set time limit, just random and unsuspecting. Unlike Mercs, which appear on radar, and drive these massive Jeeps that are obviously tied to them.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:27 PM

How about a roll down your damn windows feature lol  I'm tired of fixing my car, only to have a passenger bust a window out to shoot at some stranger.

  This

 

 

& i agree with OP

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:30 PM Edited by brooklyn718, 13 November 2013 - 11:32 PM.

Drive byes! Nice! Whats funny is it seems like the mugger gets the job done better than the mercs, so drive byes would surely be effective.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:31 PM

How about a roll down your damn windows feature lol  I'm tired of fixing my car, only to have a passenger bust a window out to shoot at some stranger.

 

If you press the "fire" button while unarmed in a vehicle you will give people the finger, which also rolls down your window.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:32 PM

 

How about a roll down your damn windows feature lol  I'm tired of fixing my car, only to have a passenger bust a window out to shoot at some stranger.

 

If you press the "fire" button while unarmed in a vehicle you will give people the finger, which also rolls down your window.

 

 Yaa but cha cant roll it back up


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 04:39 AM

I think drive-by options from Lamar would actually be more advanced than Mercenaries. Higher-level unlock (say, level 75 or 80), and a car that looks like every other car driving around would just pull up, stop, and open fire on the target. No radar warning, no warning message, no set time limit, just random and unsuspecting. Unlike Mercs, which appear on radar, and drive these massive Jeeps that are obviously tied to them.

 

or a car/bus/suv blocks ur path or rams u, then an SUV behind you blocks you in, then open fire then they drive off.


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 04:49 AM Edited by sparkydeltorro, 14 November 2013 - 04:49 AM.

If the drive-by was anything like the Mechanic at finding people they'd plunge their f*cking car into the ocean and drown.

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 04:52 AM

My mercenaries are glitched. When I send them they never turn up and when people send them at me I get no warning.

 

Doesn't bother me though, I prefer muggers.


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 05:53 AM

It warns you of a wave of jeeps full of assholes with dead-eye aiming...


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 06:04 AM

I like that drive by idea!

Maybe in a "Hood Gon' Love It" DLC

 

can we change the name to "Hood cant afford it" DLC? 


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Posted 14 November 2013 - 04:44 PM

it's merryweather playing both sides, they tell you hoping you will aquire their services as well.

same goes for that bastard lester
he taps all our phones and gives out all players GPS location unless you pay up
when you think about it he's really just extorting all of us
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Posted 21 January 2014 - 07:53 PM

add to the list for new things needed by Lester:

 

car bomb that you can send anywhere on the map. NPC drives car to location, gets out and runs, boom. and the location can be a moving blip.

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 08:36 PM Edited by TreFacTor, 21 January 2014 - 08:37 PM.

Mercenaries are useless. Easy to outrun, even easier to gun down. The message isn't the giveaway...I'm not certain most people ever see the message, but you can see those big red dots coming from a mile away. I can't tell you how many times I've been refunded my money from Merryweather....the helicopter assistance is just as useless. I would rather they gave us corrupt LSPD instead...those dudes get the job done.

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 08:45 PM

How would drive by work if the person is driving? It would be almost the same as Mercenaries. I don't see it happening.


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 08:46 PM

Mercenaries are useless. Easy to outrun, even easier to gun down. The message isn't the giveaway...I'm not certain most people ever see the message, but you can see those big red dots coming from a mile away. I can't tell you how many times I've been refunded my money from Merryweather....the helicopter assistance is just as useless. I would rather they gave us corrupt LSPD instead...those dudes get the job done.

 

Mercenaries are an expensive distraction. You do get the occasional person with them though.

 

Also, what the hell? Scubadave posting ideas that are somewhat decent? World is ending!

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 08:49 PM

I never even see the message 9/10 unless I'm idle. 

I don't get how people outrun them instantly sometimes. Yet other times they send car after car with them at someone. 


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 08:51 PM Edited by TreFacTor, 21 January 2014 - 08:51 PM.

 

Mercenaries are useless. Easy to outrun, even easier to gun down. The message isn't the giveaway...I'm not certain most people ever see the message, but you can see those big red dots coming from a mile away. I can't tell you how many times I've been refunded my money from Merryweather....the helicopter assistance is just as useless. I would rather they gave us corrupt LSPD instead...those dudes get the job done.

 

Mercenaries are an expensive distraction. You do get the occasional person with them though.

 

Also, what the hell? Scubadave posting ideas that are somewhat decent? World is ending!

 

Not yet...it's just tuesday ;)

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 08:51 PM

they need to fix the airstrike so its like the airstrike from COD4. with a small radius of maybe 2 blocks it wouldnt be overpowered

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 08:55 PM

i totally agree with you. they shouldn't tell the person you've sent mercs after them and they should take off the red dots so you can't see them coming until it's too late?


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Posted 21 January 2014 - 08:56 PM

Drive by sounds good.
Mercenaries are less than useless though.
I've never used then and any time they're sent after me I always steal the jeep, then text " thanks for the jeep bro" to whoever sent them. Really seems to piss people off that one.

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 09:00 PM

I generally use mercenaries on lower ranked players when I can't be bothered to deal with them myself. I don't think it's too much of a cost and I like that they know the mercs are coming, it give it that personal touch.

 

I think the drive by is a good idea, especially if Online goes down a more RPG route, like if you choose to be more of a gangbanger than a mob man or something. I'd like the idea of different criminal gangs with different call ins/abilities battling for territory and stuff.

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 09:07 PM

OP is making a solid point. Warnings are a crappy feature.

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Posted 21 January 2014 - 09:13 PM

Funny thing, though, when I they've been sent after me, I've never - not once - seen the message. I know it is probably sent, I just miss it completely because I'm likely too busy being a toolbag! still, whenever the red blips show up, they are far too easy to dispense. If they were able to throw grenades or come in charging, more aggressively, then I'd be more intimidated. As of now, they're more of a light Gang Attack than anything.

As for the idea of a Lamar initiated "drive-by," I think that would be brilliant.

To add, as I mentioned in another thread, I'd also love to see a "Hire Assassin," similar to the mugger but much more deadly and who can follow a player across servers or if the player quits, re-engages (like a bounty) when the player comes back.

Just a thought. ;)

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