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Posted 11 November 2013 - 08:53 PM Edited by MackRotten, 11 November 2013 - 08:54 PM.

Disclaimer: No racism nor offense intended.

The word "Nigga". (Note, "a" not "er").

"Nigga" is a word derived from the word "ni**er", originally a racial slur from back in the slavery days. And still used as a racial slur today, however the word "Nigga" is now becoming a common term in todays society, used by all colors. Brought to light in the late 80's and early 90's via "Gangsta Rap", it was used a noun used to describe both good and bad people. IE;


"Eazy Mutha f*ckn E, A real nigga, born and raised in Mutha f*ckin' Compton, This ones dedicated to you busta ass niggaz"

 

To begin with, it was a term only socially acceptably used within the African American community, however over the previous few years it has became a lot "looser" in society, and has become an accepted word since the world has become a more "interracial"(Most of you will recognize this word from porn) place.

So the question is, do you feel that the racial side of "Nigga" has been nullified through social acceptance and common use? Mostly via movies and music.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 08:57 PM Edited by thebodies, 11 November 2013 - 08:58 PM.

I think there already is a topic about this.

 

EDIT: Well, kind of. http://gtaforums.com...ouble-standard/


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 09:29 PM

So the question is, do you feel that the racial side of "Nigga" has been nullified through social acceptance and common use? Mostly via movies and music.

No because it's used somewhat satirically of the derogatory word.

 

Also,

 

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:18 PM

What's the problem? It's just a word.  :sigh:

 

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:19 PM

People here freak out with the Race Identifier "Negro" (as in the 'United Negro Fund'). So why wouldn't they get squirrely with the "N" word and its derivatives and variances?


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:23 PM

 

So the question is, do you feel that the racial side of "Nigga" has been nullified through social acceptance and common use? Mostly via movies and music.

No because it's used somewhat satirically of the derogatory word.

 

Also,

 

 

The way he said Nigga is so hilarious


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:34 PM

The question is, why do you even need to use the word if you are outside of that particular part of the black community that calls each other that?

 

Do you really need to be a white/Hispanic/Asian person using that term, regardless of how you feel about the connotations word itself? Would we be better off if everyone was free to call each other nigga and spics?


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Posted 11 November 2013 - 10:53 PM

The question is, why do you even need to use the word if you are outside of that particular part of the black community that calls each other that?

 

Do you really need to be a white/Hispanic/Asian person using that term, regardless of how you feel about the connotations word itself? Would we be better off if everyone was free to call each other nigga and spics?

It's a bit of a double-standard to say it's 'okay' for one part of the community to use it and it's not for another part. I don't like the word, but complaining about one group using it and not the other is stupid.

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Posted 11 November 2013 - 11:08 PM

If I yell the word "NEIN" five times people call me a Nazi. :dontgetit:


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:39 AM Edited by theadmiral, 12 November 2013 - 12:39 AM.

 

It's a bit of a double-standard to say it's 'okay' for one part of the community to use it and it's not for another part. I don't like the word, but complaining about one group using it and not the other is stupid.

 

You can complain about it being a double standard, I wouldn't disagree. But do you honestly want to run around calling black people "Nigga" just because you can? Is it necessary? What is the point?


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:40 AM

 

 

It's a bit of a double-standard to say it's 'okay' for one part of the community to use it and it's not for another part. I don't like the word, but complaining about one group using it and not the other is stupid.

 

You can complain about it being a double standard, I wouldn't disagree. But do you honestly want to run around calling black people "Nigga" just because you can? Is it necessary? What is the point?

 

 

I wouldn't, no, but if someone else does, they shouldn't be criticized for it anymore than black people.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 12:54 AM Edited by FirstLadyofGTA, 12 November 2013 - 12:55 AM.

I strongly dislike the use of the word in most circumstances.  I don't hear other ethnic groups popularizing derogatory terms to identify themselves, to the extent that the 'N' word is, within their cultures and I don't think this word should be any different.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 04:26 AM

A lot of people, imo, who come off as non racist are deeply inside one themselves. It's the whole politically correct, the we are all equal social pressure that make us think that a black as coal man is the same as an irish who never saw the sun light.

 

I am not racist at all, but how many of you white folks would marry a black women or man, and not the african american type, the real afrikans, black as the night.

 

This applies to black with white and other races aswell.

 

I'm just being honest, don't burn me.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 05:56 AM

I strongly dislike the use of the word in most circumstances.  I don't hear other ethnic groups popularizing derogatory terms to identify themselves, to the extent that the 'N' word is, within their cultures and I don't think this word should be any different.


So you're saying that black people shouldn't use the word? That doesn't make any sense, besides, nigga isn't derogatory anyway, it probably began as satirical as someone mentioned and then became popular amongst the black continuity as a term of endearment.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 06:08 AM

A lot of people, imo, who come off as non racist are deeply inside one themselves. It's the whole politically correct, the we are all equal social pressure that make us think that a black as coal man is the same as an irish who never saw the sun light.

 

I am not racist at all, but how many of you white folks would marry a black women or man, and not the african american type, the real afrikans, black as the night.

 

This applies to black with white and other races aswell.

 

I'm just being honest, don't burn me.

 

Well, I LOVE white/oriental girls so...... :whistle:

 

It's a culture thing really.It's honestly an ignorant word, and I can't see WHY a white person would want to use an ignorant ass word in a non-ironic way.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:04 AM

People here freak out with the Race Identifier "Negro" (as in the 'United Negro Fund'). So why wouldn't they get squirrely with the "N" word and its derivatives and variances?


That's because it's commonly seen as offensive and derogatory. I assume the only reason you get a free pass to say it is because you're old and smell of urine, and are therefore allowed to be casually racist.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:16 AM Edited by Killerdude8, 12 November 2013 - 09:16 AM.

I associate 'nigga' with the Black equivalent to white trash.

Normally, those are the kind of people you hear say it, never heard a respectable black man say 'nigga'
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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:30 AM

I think there already is a topic about this.

 

EDIT: Well, kind of. http://gtaforums.com...ouble-standard/

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 10:32 AM

 

I think there already is a topic about this.

 

EDIT: Well, kind of. http://gtaforums.com...ouble-standard/

well arnt you a buzkillington

 

no he's correct.

you're supposed to search for topics that have already been discussed before opening up an identical thread on the exact same topic. but no one ever does so we end up discussing the same crap over and over again....

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 10:39 AM

What's the problem? It's just a word.  :sigh:

 

I for one am a proud Spic. 

 

Depends on the context its used in don't be silly.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 10:49 AM Edited by El_Diablo, 12 November 2013 - 10:49 AM.

also it sounds like MackRotten has been listening to Opie and Anthony lately... :lol:

 

great and very real, honest, graphic discussion about Nigga versus N*gger.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 05:26 PM

 

I strongly dislike the use of the word in most circumstances.  I don't hear other ethnic groups popularizing derogatory terms to identify themselves, to the extent that the 'N' word is, within their cultures and I don't think this word should be any different.


So you're saying that black people shouldn't use the word? That doesn't make any sense, besides, nigga isn't derogatory anyway, it probably began as satirical as someone mentioned and then became popular amongst the black continuity as a term of endearment.

 

Yes that's exactly what I'm saying and it does make sense.  I come from an inter-racial family make-up and I'm well acquainted with the different opinions of the N word amongst the black population and that is the opinion that I take...and? 


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 06:45 PM Edited by ShootPeopleNotDope, 12 November 2013 - 06:46 PM.

ITT:

 

A lot of people, imo, who come off as non racist are deeply inside one themselves. It's the whole politically correct, the we are all equal social pressure that make us think that a black as coal man is the same as an irish who never saw the sun light.

 

I am not racist at all, but how many of you white folks would marry a black women or man, and not the african american type, the real afrikans, black as the night.

 

This applies to black with white and other races aswell.

 

I'm just being honest, don't burn me.

Could've fooled me.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt, ya know.

 


I wouldn't, no, but if someone else does, they shouldn't be criticized for it anymore than black people.

 

I wouldn't necessarily criticize them--by which, I mean white people--for being 'racist' if they want around using "nigga", but I would definitely criticize their complete and total lack of self-awareness. Honestly, there's just few contexts where it's appropriate for white folks to say "nigga". If you have say, black friends who are comfortable with you using it, understand that not everyone will be, and it's usage should be limited to that circle.

 

When it comes down to it, it's not up to white people to criticize any minority group for the terms they use to identify themselves and others. In this particular instance, there's an on-going debate within the black community about the use of "nigga". Those outside of that community just need to shut their cracker asses up.

 

Just out of curiosity, do you think the LGBT community should be criticized for their reappropriation of slurs like "gay", and "queer" too? Is that also harmful?


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 07:03 PM

Just out of curiosity, do you think the LGBT community should be criticized for their reappropriation of slurs like "gay", and "queer" too? Is that also harmful?

 

No, but that's mostly because "gay" isn't an offensive word. It's used as an offensive word but in itself it has no more offensive intent than "retarded" would- it's simply descriptive.

"Queer" again has been used pejoratively against homosexuals but isn't specifically applicable to them. It's got another distinct meaning from which the offensive meaning is derived. 

 

I do agree with your sentiments, but your example is flawed. Much better to use one of the other, innumerate racist terms.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 07:15 PM

I absolutely loathe anyone, black or white using the term 'nigga'. It is an ugly word with ugly roots which shouldn't be worn as a badge of honour, spat out as a threat or hollered as an insult. It should be utterly forgotten.

 

I particularly hate when I hear white kids using it after they've won a fight or something because it just goes to show how truly awful this word has become and how it has been associated with all that is brutal, threatening and regressive in our society.

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Posted 12 November 2013 - 07:55 PM

 

Just out of curiosity, do you think the LGBT community should be criticized for their reappropriation of slurs like "gay", and "queer" too? Is that also harmful?

 

No, but that's mostly because "gay" isn't an offensive word. It's used as an offensive word but in itself it has no more offensive intent than "retarded" would- it's simply descriptive.

"Queer" again has been used pejoratively against homosexuals but isn't specifically applicable to them. It's got another distinct meaning from which the offensive meaning is derived. 

 

I do agree with your sentiments, but your example is flawed. Much better to use one of the other, innumerate racist terms.

 

Fair point. After looking more into the origin of the word 'gay', and how it eventually became associated with homosexuality, I stand corrected. I had been told it's use was originally derogatory--in some respects, it certainly could have been--but I probably should have looked into it first. I stand by the example of "queer", though. Given that it basically means weird, or abnormal, and was used very deliberately against people in the LGBT community, for them to turn around and say "yeah, we're queer" is more-or-less a big "f*ck you" to bigots. It may not be the best example, but there's definitely a parallel between the two.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 08:08 PM

I absolutely loathe anyone, black or white using the term 'nigga'. It is an ugly word with ugly roots which shouldn't be worn as a badge of honour, spat out as a threat or hollered as an insult. It should be utterly forgotten.

 

I particularly hate when I hear white kids using it after they've won a fight or something because it just goes to show how truly awful this word has become and how it has been associated with all that is brutal, threatening and regressive in our society.

 

I'd say it's more annoying than ugly - same thing? I dunno. Playing V for example: Nigga this, nigga that. I can't speak for the urban black community who choose to include the term in 50% of their vocabulary, but it just appears childish and embarrassing frankly. And like you said, it's even more ridiculous when you hear other ethnic group's uttering the word. Just my bronze coin.


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 08:23 PM

Can you lend a nigga a pencil?


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:43 PM

There are no black people at my school so it rarely comes up


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Posted 12 November 2013 - 09:49 PM

White people still get smacked up for saying it over here, so I guess I'm stuck in a different time period as the rest of ya'll. The way I see it, any white person using the word is racist. I don't have a problem with that since I'm a racist as well but white people fight so hard for a chance to use the word that it isn't even funny. 





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