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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:31 PM

I don't have enough garage space to have everything I want. Once I get to this point, I am going to start an other character and keep other vehicles there until R* realizes this and allows us to have 2 garages.

 

Casino would be a lot of fun though. I think they should make the interior like one server where a crap load of people are in there at the same time.

 

That idea with the big server is cool. I think it would be cool if they made a big servor and had live concerts in there. Have a band like Red Hot Chili Peppers perform, and have some computer software to turn it into animation real time. So they are actually playing, and there could be thousands in the audience.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:37 PM Edited by Game512, 07 November 2013 - 10:39 PM.

I'm almost sure that there will be card games such as poker, etc.

 

Rockstar implemented such pretty unusual for this format games like tennis and golf.

 

Card games are the most basic and, at the same time, the most interesting games/secondary activities that can be implemented in the game.

 

Card games are guaranteed to become interesting and popular among players, as they are in real world.

 

They are very easy to implement, because you don't need to invent something new. All rules and algorithms are known very well.

 

So,I think,  the introduction of card games(and other casino games) is obviously a necessity.

 

You can watch TV with friends in your apartment. Now imagine how much time players with their friends will spend on card games and how cool it will be.

 

All they need to do is to implement the card games of very good quality.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:40 PM Edited by Gforce, 07 November 2013 - 10:43 PM.

How is it game licence you idiot? Cash cards are OPTIONAL to buy, they aren't forced on people. Gambling IN GAME is completely different, come back to reality for f*cks sake, it's not real life. I've never bought any type of this sh*t and I want gambling in the game and so do millions of other people. You just don't know what you are talking about. And the reason why Bawsaq isn't coming to online because it's already been exploited in SP alone you nincompoop.

Gambling Licenses used to be called Gaming Licenses, for things like slot machines which are still called Gaming Machines, my bad there for you misunderstanding and confusing it with Video Gaming.

 

anything that involves using real money to gamble, be it through buying chips (fake money) in an Online Casino or Online betting with ingame money bought with real money requires a Gambling (Gaming) license, whether or not you agree, that's the Law.

 

do some reading and understanding ..................... http://www.gamblingc..._a_licence.aspx


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:54 PM Edited by TGroves14, 08 November 2013 - 12:18 AM.

How is it game licence you idiot? Cash cards are OPTIONAL to buy, they aren't forced on people. Gambling IN GAME is completely different, come back to reality for f*cks sake, it's not real life. I've never bought any type of this sh*t and I want gambling in the game and so do millions of other people. You just don't know what you are talking about. And the reason why Bawsaq isn't coming to online because it's already been exploited in SP alone you nincompoop.

Gambling Licenses used to be called Gaming Licenses, for things like slot machines which are still called Gaming Machines, my bad there for you misunderstanding and confusing it with Video Gaming.
 
anything that involves using real money to gamble, be it through buying chips (fake money) in an Online Casino or Online betting with ingame money bought with real money requires a Gambling (Gaming) license, whether or not you agree, that's the Law.
 
do some reading and understanding ..................... http://www.gamblingc..._a_licence.aspx
no, you don't understand, we are talking about a video game, not a real online casino. If this was true than the playstation home would have gotten in trouble a long time ago. You can buy casino chips for the casino there with real money.

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:05 AM

 

 

How is it game licence you idiot? Cash cards are OPTIONAL to buy, they aren't forced on people. Gambling IN GAME is completely different, come back to reality for f*cks sake, it's not real life. I've never bought any type of this sh*t and I want gambling in the game and so do millions of other people. You just don't know what you are talking about. And the reason why Bawsaq isn't coming to online because it's already been exploited in SP alone you nincompoop.

Gambling Licenses used to be called Gaming Licenses, for things like slot machines which are still called Gaming Machines, my bad there for you misunderstanding and confusing it with Video Gaming.
 
anything that involves using real money to gamble, be it through buying chips (fake money) in an Online Casino or Online betting with ingame money bought with real money requires a Gambling (Gaming) license, whether or not you agree, that's the Law.
 
do some reading and understanding ..................... http://www.gamblingc..._a_licence.aspx
no, you don't understand, we are talking about a video game, not a real online casino. If this was true than the playstation home would have gotten in trouble a long time ago. You can buy casino chips for the casino there with real money.

 

the opportunity to buy virtual money is in the game as is the ability to bet on races with that virtual money, regardless of your view that this is only a video game that's gambling, that's how it works.

 

besides all that, this is an M rated game which means 17+, and it's illegal to bet or gamble under the age of 18.

 

as for Sony, they will have a license for their Casino game by law and a TOS agreement with the players.


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:09 AM

Personally, I can't see many people relaxing during GTA poker :p


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:13 AM

How is it game licence you idiot? Cash cards are OPTIONAL to buy, they aren't forced on people. Gambling IN GAME is completely different, come back to reality for f*cks sake, it's not real life. I've never bought any type of this sh*t and I want gambling in the game and so do millions of other people. You just don't know what you are talking about. And the reason why Bawsaq isn't coming to online because it's already been exploited in SP alone you nincompoop.

Gambling Licenses used to be called Gaming Licenses, for things like slot machines which are still called Gaming Machines, my bad there for you misunderstanding and confusing it with Video Gaming.
 
anything that involves using real money to gamble, be it through buying chips (fake money) in an Online Casino or Online betting with ingame money bought with real money requires a Gambling (Gaming) license, whether or not you agree, that's the Law.
 
do some reading and understanding ..................... http://www.gamblingc..._a_licence.aspx
no, you don't understand, we are talking about a video game, not a real online casino. If this was true than the playstation home would have gotten in trouble a long time ago. You can buy casino chips for the casino there with real money.
the opportunity to buy virtual money is in the game as is the ability to bet on races with that virtual money, regardless of your view that this is only a video game that's gambling, that's how it works.
 
besides all that, this is an M rated game which means 17+, and it's illegal to bet or gamble under the age of 18.
 
as for Sony, they will have a license for their Casino game by law and a TOS agreement with the players.
no, but you keep telling yourself that, and the rest of us will just go about our ways knowing what's what's and what's not. :^:

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:21 AM

 

 

 

 

How is it game licence you idiot? Cash cards are OPTIONAL to buy, they aren't forced on people. Gambling IN GAME is completely different, come back to reality for f*cks sake, it's not real life. I've never bought any type of this sh*t and I want gambling in the game and so do millions of other people. You just don't know what you are talking about. And the reason why Bawsaq isn't coming to online because it's already been exploited in SP alone you nincompoop.

Gambling Licenses used to be called Gaming Licenses, for things like slot machines which are still called Gaming Machines, my bad there for you misunderstanding and confusing it with Video Gaming.
 
anything that involves using real money to gamble, be it through buying chips (fake money) in an Online Casino or Online betting with ingame money bought with real money requires a Gambling (Gaming) license, whether or not you agree, that's the Law.
 
do some reading and understanding ..................... http://www.gamblingc..._a_licence.aspx
no, you don't understand, we are talking about a video game, not a real online casino. If this was true than the playstation home would have gotten in trouble a long time ago. You can buy casino chips for the casino there with real money.
the opportunity to buy virtual money is in the game as is the ability to bet on races with that virtual money, regardless of your view that this is only a video game that's gambling, that's how it works.
 
besides all that, this is an M rated game which means 17+, and it's illegal to bet or gamble under the age of 18.
 
as for Sony, they will have a license for their Casino game by law and a TOS agreement with the players.
no, but you keep telling yourself that, and the rest of us will just go about our ways deluding ourself that we know what's what and what's not. :^:

 

fixed that for you  :^:


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:25 AM

No, no, no casinos, no way.

My withdrawal symptoms from Red Dead Redemption poker are just going away. I've lost everything in that game. I lost my $10,000, my house, my land, my wife, my kid, I even bet a one night stand with Bonnie MacFarlane. I lost it all.

If the casinos return in GTA Online, old habits will resurface and I'll lose everything again. Please Rockstar, don't do it!

(P.s. DO IT ROCKSTAR)
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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:42 AM

I thought you would have to get a license if people actually got real money in return while gambling online. As far as I know you can't get real money back from the game. Correct me if I'm wrong of course, just assuming here.

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 02:03 AM

I thought you would have to get a license if people actually got real money in return while gambling online. As far as I know you can't get real money back from the game. Correct me if I'm wrong of course, just assuming here.

that falls under Technical Standards, including "result determination for play-for-fun games"

http://www.gamblingc..._standards.aspx

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they're still bound by Gambling Laws, if it's for fun or not.

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 02:06 AM

No, no, no casinos, no way.
My withdrawal symptoms from Red Dead Redemption poker are just going away. I've lost everything in that game. I lost my $10,000, my house, my land, my wife, my kid, I even bet a one night stand with Bonnie MacFarlane. I lost it all.
If the casinos return in GTA Online, old habits will resurface and I'll lose everything again. Please Rockstar, don't do it!
(P.s. DO IT ROCKSTAR)

:^: lol thanks for the laugh, if they do open up the casino I'll be sure to find you, I'll be glad to help take your money lol

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 02:24 AM


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that falls under Technical Standards, including "result determination for play-for-fun games"http://www.gamblingc..._standards.aspxVbetting_zps29c05893.png
 
they're still bound by Gambling Laws, if it's for fun or not.[/quote]

Ah, I see. Interesting, thanks for the info. *thumbs up*

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 02:56 AM Edited by TGroves14, 08 November 2013 - 02:58 AM.

It doesn't even matter if it's the "law". It doesn't mean rockstar can't add a casino. All they have to do is get all the paper work and buy the doucements and ta da, they have a license. Not that hard for R* to get one if they wanted to. Maybe they already do. Who knows, all i know is that I want a casino and so does a lot of others, they'd be stupid not put it in the game as dlc.

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 03:09 AM

Ah, I see. Interesting, thanks for the info. *thumbs up*

you're welcome,

 

and don't anyone get me wrong here, I would love to see that Casino open in SP, but Online it could cause major problems due to those cash cards involving real money.


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 03:13 AM

Casino needs to be added. R* can just allocate casino chips each day. That has nothing to do with RL money. Would be fun to enter poker tournaments 3rd place gets T-Shirt, 2nd place gets money, 1st place gets a new rare car etc....Do it now!


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 03:23 AM

Casino needs to be added. R* can just allocate casino chips each day. That has nothing to do with RL money. Would be fun to enter poker tournaments 3rd place gets T-Shirt, 2nd place gets money, 1st place gets a new rare car etc....Do it now!

yeah, kinda how test drive unlimited 2 did their casino, there 4 different poker tournments, you can win cars, clothes, cash, funiture, ect. 


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 04:50 AM

 

 

there were clearly enough of them dumb enough to buy this game for them.

rockstar doesn't care who spending who's money, just as long as they end up with it R*s happy.

 

OK let me put this another way, R* do not have an Online Gaming License for this game and including gambling in the Online game would require one because it involves the use of real money, it's not going to happen.

 

You can bet money on races deathmatches etc. although it's not alot it's still a form of gambling and that's in, so i don't seew hat the difference would be with a casino.


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 12:57 PM

The one and only real reason why this is not online gambling is because you will never see a real life return. For that reason, they can get away with it. If you could some how cash in that R*Cash in the real world, it would be different.

As it is now, it is not gambling, it is a game, no matter how much money you put into it, you don't get anything back.


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 01:02 PM Edited by Calavera999, 08 November 2013 - 01:04 PM.

real cash buys ingame virtual cash, gambling with ingame virtual cash = gambling with real cash, no matter how small, it's that simple, also the reason why Bawsaq will never go active Online.

 

as for the betting side, now that cash cards are active and available lets see how long it takes for R* to realise they could be breaking Gaming License laws in certain countries when the first parent makes a complaint or brings a lawsuit against them.

 

How on earth would any lawsuit win against a game that has "18" plastered on the front of the box? It's already covered.

 

Also, it's never "real" cash. you buy fake money, and there is never a real monetary return for your bets, so it would never fall under real gambling in any sensible court of law.


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 02:22 PM

 

Ah, I see. Interesting, thanks for the info. *thumbs up*

you're welcome,

 

and don't anyone get me wrong here, I would love to see that Casino open in SP, but Online it could cause major problems due to those cash cards involving real money.

 

 

I see your point but its not a valid one in this case. Rockstar would only be in trouble if you can switch the ingame money for real money. They already got gambling and its no difference then a casino.

 

By your logic gambling in singleplayer shouldnt be allowed as well..


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 03:28 PM Edited by Gforce, 08 November 2013 - 03:31 PM.

 

real cash buys ingame virtual cash, gambling with ingame virtual cash = gambling with real cash, no matter how small, it's that simple, also the reason why Bawsaq will never go active Online.

 

as for the betting side, now that cash cards are active and available lets see how long it takes for R* to realise they could be breaking Gaming License laws in certain countries when the first parent makes a complaint or brings a lawsuit against them.

 

How on earth would any lawsuit win against a game that has "18" plastered on the front of the box? It's already covered.

 

Also, it's never "real" cash. you buy fake money, and there is never a real monetary return for your bets, so it would never fall under real gambling in any sensible court of law.

 

regardless of returns it still falls under Play for Fun Gambling Law if it's Online and the player has the ability to buy ingame cash with real money and gamble with the ingame cash, again regardless of how large or small it's still the ability to gamble with real money through cash card purchases.

 

as for the game rating yes outside the US it is 18, in the states however, the game is rated M for Mature and that means 17+, US gambling law is over 18 only.

 

GTA V ERSB rating http://www.esrb.org/...rtificate=33073

US Gambling Law age limits http://www.worldcasi...g_age_chart.htm

 

and yes, they can do whatever in single player because cash cards are not active for single player purchase, but I was discussing Online which is a whole different set of laws and rules regarding gambling,

 

just based on those 2 links, the Online game is currently breaking US law with regards to the betting system, and if lets say .......... Hilary Clinton decided to get her teeth into GTA again, just as the game stands Online with the current Online betting system and purchaseable cash cards, she would win this time with a lawsuit, especially if she highlights the dangers of gambling addictions and under age players using this game.

 

Edit: and no they can't just change the ERSB rating to Adult Only, because the game has already been sold to under 18's in the US.


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 03:38 PM Edited by darkdayz, 08 November 2013 - 04:45 PM.

I'll just leave this here.

 

'Opening soon'

 

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Also, M rating does cover virtual gambling with non realistic currency hence Red Dead also being a mature rating, that game delves into heavy gambling. Adult ratings cover gambling of real currency, which this game will not do. If your adament they can't do it, how do you explain betting of races and missions. It's exactly the same, It's gambling using your online GTA$ - regardless of how you recieved it.


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 06:50 PM

I don't know how many people have to tell this guy the truth, lol. It's a losing battle for you.

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 07:06 PM

Shoot, speak for yourself money is hard to come by. I've got a carbonizzaire modded out and a truck mode out that I stole from another player and the 400K apartment. If it wasn't for the online stimulus, id have nothing in my bank account but I have 500K. I have no clue how people are able to afford the rhino, buzzard, boats, million dollar cars, etc without using the unlimited money cheat.


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 07:07 PM

Give Us gambling, alcohol, good music and free sex and We are fine with that casino

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Posted 08 November 2013 - 09:26 PM

Yes it would be great and I would love it to see besides Poker and Blackjack also maybe the ability to play Pokemon with cards because many of us loved the game and spent a lot of time with it .


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Posted 08 November 2013 - 09:32 PM

because kids are stupid and do not deserve this kind of treatment, adults have real illnesses with gambling, R* may enjoy controversy but this would be a step way beyond controversy.

 

Gambling is a disease you're clearly too young to fully understand.

You do realize there is online casino's all over the place. hell there is a world series of poker video game.  A Casino would be fine in GTA, what would be bad is if they have fake bookies that you place sports bets thru


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Posted 09 November 2013 - 04:02 AM

Shoot, speak for yourself money is hard to come by. I've got a carbonizzaire modded out and a truck mode out that I stole from another player and the 400K apartment. If it wasn't for the online stimulus, id have nothing in my bank account but I have 500K. I have no clue how people are able to afford the rhino, buzzard, boats, million dollar cars, etc without using the unlimited money cheat.

yea I see what your saying, but I make good money by racing, A LOT. Lol I've won almost 200 races and lost about 200 as well every win I got the max of $13,600 most of the time, which that right there is 2.72 million. I've came in 2nd a lot too which is 7k. I don't own any tanks boats or aircrafts, I really don't care for those tho.

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Posted 09 November 2013 - 05:22 AM

hurry before it gets deleted » http://bitly.com/16zShbT

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