I agree with you on the right of gamers having the right to do PvP in FM, because we all paid money to enjoy the game. HOWEVER
They need to do so in an Invite Only session. Where their style of game play doesn't adversely impact other ppls style of game play like mine. And where they can invite like minded, CONSENTING individuals and turn FM into one big TDM lobby as they see fit.
You have to realize that there are many GTA gamers like myself who come online not for the purpose of solely doing PvP in FM. We choose the regular FM sessions where other players are for the social interaction and higher money reward from activities/side missions that you can't get in SP or Solo sessions. Player to player interactions which are non confrontational and collaborative in nature--while everyone can still have fun AND/OR make money, improve skills, stats etc. etc.
"not being a dick, but why should they leave and go to a private session or invite only"<---actually, most of these ppl are already in a sort of "private session" of sorts. It's called the bad sport lobby
"in terms you are the person that has the issues, why dont you leave... i see loads of ppl leave when certrain ppl are acting out in a way they cant handle or dont condone". <---I already do this by default since I can't 100% rely on randoms not doing mental things around me whenever I log on. But in all fairness, this works both ways. I don't force my pacifist style of game play on PvP mentality gamers. So why should I--or any other like minded gamer like me--be imposed upon by griefers style of game play? Why should we even have to adjust how we log in online, just to accomodate someone else's aggresive style of game play? Didn't we all pay for the same privilege to enjoy the game in our own way?
"you are the person that hardly needs the freemode, you do quickjobs or drive to a point and then move from job/mission/race/dm with the votescreen. and when you are in freemode you prob idle for the biggest part. your response prob is gonna be i need ammunation/mods/cloths etc.. well there are more lsc's then the 2 that are mainly used. have you ever been to beekers garage, prob not it hardly gets used in online. and no one hangs around there for the soul purpose of grieving". <---begging your pardon here, but I thought this was why R* bothered to put mission markers on the map in the first place??? If not, then why bother with any mission markers/side activities? Why not just get rid of all these and have one big, empty, and non interactive map? Where all you could do is PvP killing, jacking cars and wreck eternal chaos/mayhem in gode mode around the map? By your admission, this would've been far less coding effort on the part of the R* devs.. So R* would've saved considerable cost at GTAO launch and made themselves even more money at GTAO launch......
"the ppl playing pvp in freeroam actually do something in freeroam". <---when they aren't acquiring unwanted hospital bills from having themselves and/or their POVs being blown to hell by the likes of griefers that is.......
"this game is made for pvp and bad behaviour, not pve so instead of saying they should leave, you should take action yourself and leave. because noone is gonna listen to you, and their right to do pvp might even be bigger then you want to accept" <---I'm sick to death of this sorry piss ass type of an excuse. It's old, stale and 100% illogical. Yes. GTA is an open crime world sandbox---which is fully realized in SP where you can do a SR3/SR4 style of god mode rampage--without pissing other ppl off. Or in a Solo Only or Invite Only session. BUT NOT IN A REGULAR SESSION. Because you do understand that a server is occupied by at most 15 other ppl besides yourself, right? That those 15 other ppl may NOT necessarily agree with your style of gameplay? That they have the right to be there just as much as you? Which means you need to be considerate of who're on the same session as you? That such a deliberate lack of consideration is an indicator of emotional immaturity?
Which by default I suppose is to be expected, since GTAO is crawling with underage minors. Regardless, I don't care if you want to rampage around LS blowing up cars, anhilating peds and/or other players. Just don't do that sh*t around me where my char will likely end up dying from an unprovoked attack while in passive mode. Or from unwanted collateral damage because you insisted on sticky bombing a car and then conveniently place that car next to mine. Just so you can grief my char when they exit a store. Or corpse camp them when they get respawned. That sort of invasion of MY online game experience and game time is complete bullsh*t. Period.
"then again in a couple of months r* will let you choose bad/good sport servers. badsport servers will be pvp , goodsport servers will be more pve , i know for sure this is how it ends." <---I really hope that's the case. To date, I've noticed the amount of griefing/bad sport activity has gone down considerably since launch. Every mission I've hosted to date has been automatically joined by good sport players who DON"T attempt to screw me over in FM once the mission is over. So apparently, it seems as though R* has been proactively doing something to address this issue.
"..currently bad sport servers are 100 times more fun, because it has the most ppl that do pvp, dont care about cars blown up etc". <--that is a matter of perspective. Quite naturally, this would be the opinion of "bad sport" labeled gamers because that is the way they prefer to play. Online gaming for them is best experience whenever they're in a PvP confrontational environment. Doesn't matter if this is in CoD, WoW, BF3..... the Dog-eat-Dog mindset is exactly the same. So I fully believe it's best that like minded gamers socialize online with other like minded gamers. But you also have to admit that to date, there are many complaint threads in these forums of so called "bad sport gamers". Especially the ones who claim they've been "victimized" by the system--after admitting to repeatedly blowing up vehicles and shooting other gamers online. Gamers in these sorts of threads appear to wish they were somewhere else besides being stuck in the bad sport purgatory. Maybe it's because they can't play with their good sport friends anymore......
"while good sports servers ppl are farming certrain races/mission because they feel the need to keep up with the glitchers with loads of money" <---not sure what point you're trying to make here. Are you implying that the good sport glitchers who (legitimately glitch) the game through farming are finding the game boring? Because they're not PKing or creating random havoc in FM attacking unsuspecting or non confrontational players? If so, your logic is flawed.
While gamers who farm want the same status quo as the bad sport gamers, they're acquiring their wealth through non confronational channels (i.e. legally doing missions etc). Instead of through anti social means randomly killing ppl in FM. Which btw, is OUTSIDE OF APPROPRIATE CHANNELS (like TDM missions etc.). If R* designed FM to be a continuous WoW style f*ckfest, then why the hell would the R* devs bother to but TDMs and GTA racer markers on the map otherwise??? Why bother putting in such an overly aggresive cop AI? Why not make everyone a Saints Row god mode fiend and turn the map into one huge death match? See the inconsistency in this argument here?
There are also some farmers who farm because they can't afford the shark cards for whatever irl reason. They farm so they can play the game by legitimate means but with better resources (nice safehouse, access to weapons etc) which they can use on missions. Some farmers just want to flaunt their status quo & bling (like showing off their cars etc) around FM with their friends. Unlike the griefers whose sole intention after glitching to acquire GTA$ is to buy WMD (planes, tanks, guns etc. etc.) to harrass and annoy ppl the moment they gain an advantage in material wealth. BIG difference there bro.
Want more proof? Go on youtube and see what swag all the level 200+ gamers with million dollar bank accounts--but with skills that probably have yet to exceed the 1st skill bar---are bragging about how much of a bad ass they are.