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Posted 27 October 2013 - 04:26 PM

Absolutely sterling work on here.
There's no way the red x's (that actually aren't) can be combined to form a larger symbol is there?

 

 

I'm racing online at the moment, but this might be an idea. Get clearer pictures of all of the "red x's" and then see if they can be arranged to make another greek letter

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 04:29 PM

Wow!  Loads of fantastic things coming up here guys, I am going to take another look at the mural and the red x's.....and the weasle news side of life.

 

I know alot of people are saying that the end report is random for everyone and it changes dramatically with any change of storyline, therefore cannot have a hidden code, but they are thinking very "Straight down the line"

 

we need to compare alot of them and see what we can find out, what if we need to be counting spaces between words rather than the words themselfs......what does the whole "riddle" on the epsilon tracts website mean and how do we use it to unlock another clue?

 

One thing i have just observed is that the person who posted a non english report got some lines in english........is this the same for other non english reports?

 

We need to stay focused and not vear into the "Wild, random mess" of ideas that other forums have fallen into as of late and look at this closely......

 

Best regards

 

Mac


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 04:36 PM

Honestly some of those dont looks like x's at all, on the the left looks like a camra picture thats on the blue signs on the side of the building. i think people just jumped on the conclusion that they are x's without thinking


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 04:46 PM Edited by neilage, 27 October 2013 - 04:46 PM.

If they were meant to be red x's, i'm sure Rockstar would have designed them so that they were clearly x's. They are not, zooming in proves this. What do they mean? Or are they just lazy scribbles showing x marks the glyphs?


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 04:47 PM

From the office of Dr Isiah Friedlander
Client Notes - Highly Confidential

Terrifying. Deluded, lonely, desperate and vain.

Definitely incapable of making a real decision.

Id way out of control.

Hides myriad inadequacies behind cash being thrown around.

Likes to stare.

Likes to use people.

Complains nobody cares, then avoids family like plague!

Eager capitalist.

Possibly worst psychopath I have encountered.

Seems to be full blown kleptomaniac.

Yoga? No. Murder? Yes!

A freak of many things, but not of physical fitness.

Like strangers.

Easily distracted.

Really wish they hadn't walked through my door.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 05:18 PM

Thanks chaps great work, keep em coming!

 

Thinking on the whole head doer that is epsilon, if you look at the words they use there are some very interesting definitions:

 

1.Tract = tract1

trakt/
noun
 
  1. 1.
    an area of land, typically a large one.
     
    "large tracts of natural forest"
    synonyms: arearegionexpansespansweepstretchextentbeltswathezone,plotpatchparcelportionsectionsectorquarterMore
     
     
    •  
       
       
  2. 2.
    a major passage in the body, large bundle of nerve fibres, or other continuous elongated anatomical structure or region.
     
    "the digestive tract"
     

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 05:22 PM Edited by B.v.A., 27 October 2013 - 05:23 PM.

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 05:22 PM

Perhaps a more interesting one:

 

Paradigm

 

  1. 1a typical example or pattern of something; a pattern or model:society’s paradigm of the ‘ideal woman’

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 05:35 PM

yea

I think the end report is an interesting piece.

I dont play online and never did with my xbox so I cant get the report back.

I had a save point where I went back to to see the report. Not everyone has one save point to go back to.

 

I dont believe that it is important for the mystery because many people I know play it only offline.

But ur investigation is great.

 

Also if want to investigate further remember that u get the report in a different language when ur not playing the game in english.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 05:38 PM

I'm going to test this out myself later today (my wife's close to the end of the game). But, apparently, if you beat the game-look at your psych report, then re-load your save, beat the game again...your psych report will be different. I doubt that means anything in and of itself, but the fact remains that maybe it's got a few random elements that only seem like they're tracking your progress.

 

If that's the case, it's more likely the clue is in how things are said, not what exactly is said. That being said,I can't post my main save file's psych report because my wife is playing right now. But I'll report my findings later today.

 

One thing I'd like to do is complete 100% with the final mission needed for 100% being the final one, just to see what that psych report says. Anyway, I'm off to work on it. Good find, hope it leads to something big. 


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 05:46 PM Edited by jimmylh, 27 October 2013 - 05:48 PM.

For those of you that might not know it, you can view your report on the social club under "missions". Just scroll through the missions until you see Psychiatric Report. Just move the scroll bar all the way to the right.

 

Not that I believe there is anything else to find, but here is mine for those who want to see more of them.

 

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A very tedious case study.

Cannot make up mind - seemingly about anything.

Will find ageing very problematic.

Careless with money.

Prone to being judgmental about some weaknesses but not own.

Needy and desperate, especially about aspects of sexually.

Loves family - having met them, not sure quite why.

Wisely invests money - in insane speculations.

Vindictive in the extreme.

Desperately dishonest and violent regarding property of others.

Practices yoga, alongside all the mayhem, of course.

Avoids strenuous exercise.

Out going and friendly, in a terrifying kind of way.

Seems to have OCD, amongst other issues.

Bizarre case study in excess.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 05:52 PM

I don't think this leads anywhere as I don't believe there is a jetpack anymore,but anyway here's mine

 

This lunatic will retire me.

Good at compromise. Not so good at willpower.

Terrifying egomaniac.

Overly generous - definitely insecure.

Loves to act like a big shot.

Sexually unsure of self - unfortunately not the case elsewhere.

Ignores family life.

Keen to be part of American dream, which is odd.

Vindictive in the extreme.

Desperately dishonest and violent regarding property of others.

Yogi? No. not so much. Happier with lunacy.

Physically unambitious.

Avoids new people.

Not a finisher.

Hmmm... bat sh*t crazy.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 05:55 PM

Do let us know what you get as the report when you get 100% as the last mission....It will answer a question as to the picture in town and the poem saying "it's not if you won or lost, but how you played the game" .......

 

What if you do need to get 100% BEFORE you finnish the last mission, thus changing the report to something more decodable?

 

Interesting.....


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 05:59 PM

I don't think this leads anywhere as I don't believe there is a jetpack anymore,but anyway here's mine

 

This lunatic will retire me.

Good at compromise. Not so good at willpower.

Terrifying egomaniac.

Overly generous - definitely insecure.

Loves to act like a big shot.

Sexually unsure of self - unfortunately not the case elsewhere.

Ignores family life.

Keen to be part of American dream, which is odd.

Vindictive in the extreme.

Desperately dishonest and violent regarding property of others.

Yogi? No. not so much. Happier with lunacy.

Physically unambitious.

Avoids new people.

Not a finisher.

Hmmm... bat sh*t crazy.

I am not conviced that there is a jetpack, and to be honest I don't care, I just want to crack this code!


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 06:31 PM Edited by Blind and Mute, 27 October 2013 - 06:32 PM.

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From the office of Dr Isiah Friedlander
Client Notes - Highly Confidential

I sincerely hope someone arrests this maniac very soon.

Sees both sides of the argument - and can't make their mind up.

Id way out of control.

Irresponsible with money and with rest of life.

Loves to act like a big shot.

Sexual risk taker - remember not to shake hands!

Lazy and self absorbed, but needy.

Investor type - which is odd given risk taking as unlikely to make old bones.

Terrifyingly insular.

Compulsive and repeat thief.

Not very into yoga, it seems.

Lazy.

Out going and friendly, in a terrifying kind of way.

A.D.D.?

I am very confused. Don't think I am the only one.


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 06:33 PM Edited by WrathChildz, 27 October 2013 - 06:34 PM.

YES!!!! I think I have a clue........MAKE SURE YOU READ THIS BEFORE DISMISSING IT!

 

1.Epsilon Tract

Chapter 1, Verse 1 – Omega

From Omega to Alpha and back again, and from Z to A. We as a people have consistently got things backwards.

 

2. The chapers (as mentioned before) are named incorrectly (Look at the greek alphabet) ...

 

Epsilon Tract

Chapter 1, Verse 1 – Omega

Chapter 2, Verse 1 – Psi

Chapter 3, Verse 1 – Chi

Chapter 4, Verse 1 – Upsilon

Chapter 5, Verse 1 – Tau

 

 

Now look at the Greek alphabet:

 

http://www.ucosigmak...greek-alphabet/

 

Note that Phi was missed in the chapters listed above (which is not a new find, this has been noted before....BUT THIS HAS NOT!

 

Go into your Psyc report and look at the logo at the top.of the report .......

 

psychological-report_head.png

Notice anything interesting......................

 

greek_alphabet.gif

 

The Psi symbol matches the logo at the top....not just a little bit...but bang on!!!

 

Now I know that when the community first looked at the meanings of the Tracts dialogue they were trying to find a code in the writing and all that jazz, what if they were partially right......there is a code, but in the phyc report that we all get!!!   The symbol is the Clue!

 

Another interesting point, look at the Epsilon guy always telling us to be aware of the" power of Metaphors".............THE REPORT IS FULL OF THEM!

 

As for cracking the code......Think about the riddle "Omega to Alpha and back again" and we know that Phi is missing right.........well how about this then, go BACKWARDS (another clue that was in the riddle) counting from the Phi symbol to Alpha and you get 21 spaces.........

 

There is a code here, I am sure of it, we just need to apply it to the one constat we all have....the end Psyk report!

 

Please all have a go.........we need to crack this.

 

Best regards

 

Mac

 

 

Copy/Paste from other topic : The Psi Symbol looks like the logo, but not the Phi, which is missing, PHI is missing not PSI !


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Posted 27 October 2013 - 06:48 PM

Copy/Paste from other topic : The Psi Symbol looks like the logo, but not the Phi, which is missing, PHI is missing not PSI !


It's still weird that all these Greek letters popup ... and that Phi is missing, that's gotta mean something. The question is, what? :) For all we know, it could simply be a mistake. Unlikely, but possible.

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 06:52 PM

For what its worth, a quick google reveals that one of the things phi can signify is an indicator of latitude in navigation and cartography.

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 06:57 PM

(And IF phi is latitude, the under the same system lamda is longitude...)

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 07:02 PM

heres mine, Ive got 100%

 

 

From the office of Dr Isiah Friedlander
Client Notes - Highly Confidential
An intriguing case.
Definitely incapable of making a real decision.
Very grandiose.
Loves showing off with money.
Creepy with women.
Avoids certain seamy behaviors - unfortunately not all of them.
Loves family - having met them, not sure quite why.
Greedy, prone to gambling - likely cause of addiction - remember to sell book.
Vindictive bully.
Compulsive and repeat thief.
Tried yoga but preferred murder?
Physically unambitious.
Picks up lots of weird people.
Not a finisher.

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 07:19 PM Edited by WrathChildz, 27 October 2013 - 07:19 PM.

I'll post mine ;

 

Remarkable - a true sociopath.

Tries to see good in everybody, with disastrous effects.

Likes to think of self as big cheese.

Tries to fill void with things.

Needy, somewhat creepy show off.

Knows where to draw some lines - but certainly not others.

Will probably get left by family.

Greedy, prone to gambling - likely cause of addiction - remember to sell book.

Easily offended to point of extreme rage.

Compulsive and repeat thief.

Thought yoga was silly - instead seems to like slaughter.

Definitely not a fitness freak - just a freak.

Avoids some confrontations on the street - very odd.

Easily distracted.

Hmmm... bat sh*t crazy.


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 12:18 AM

New find......

 

Anyone else notice that there are 26 Chapters and verses in the epsilon tract.  The hint at the begining references the The greek alphabet that has 24 and Z-A of the current alphabet which has 26 letter................

 

Here are the scrips for those that have not seen them..BTW I find it hard to believe that we would have to apply a code to all this text, so the clue has to be simpler...why so much text, unless you were trying to pad out 26 verses for a reason........

 

 
Chapter 1, Verse 1 – Omega
From omega to Alpha and back again, and from Z to A. We as a people have 
 
consistently got things backwards. I know that now. I am not alive. I am dead. 
 
I am not rich, I am poor. I am not from Earth at all.
Contrary to what you know, life is not life at all. It is all an illusion. You 
 
are being controlled by lots of powerful forces you do not understand – like 
 
gravity. Just as an apple a sometimes flies up from a tree and becomes a great 
 
Eagle, so what seems like greed can in its own way be the most selfless act of 
 
all.
The act of loving only one, the god head, is the act of loving all, the people 
 
as god head. That is clear to those who seek, and seek we must and pay we 
 
must. Seeking without paying is not living, it is living on the cheap. 
 
Epsilonism is an extensive religion. Only for those with the wisdom to afford 
 
it. Wisdom is our most valuable commodity and that is why we pay highly for 
 
it.
 
Chapter 1, Verse 2
To be an Epsilonist is to be rich in powerful tools. Tools are held in the 
 
belt by some, and in the mind by others. The most powerful tool of all is the 
 
tool of manifest generosity towards ideas, towards upward. That is, sometimes 
 
a peach tree issues forth fire and a great dove becomes born. That dove is 
 
money and the money should be spend by all to achieve manifest generosity. as 
 
each paradigm has shown those who understand. And manifest generosity is the 
 
god head and being the god head is the movement towards truth form. Truth form 
 
is important but it is difficult for the wrong to understand, so ask yourself, 
 
am I the right?
And I prove that through my adherence to manifest generosity and by the Eagle 
 
and the dove and the peach tree and upward gravity and by understanding, above 
 
all, this manifest truth form? Yea, to some this will seem hard to understand 
 
but it will be revealed, and to some it will see hard to understand and it 
 
will not be revealed because they did not seek truly because they were the 
 
wrong form of bird or topiary. If you seek wisdom, you will pay for it and 
 
seeking and paying are the same thing as is understanding, if you want it to 
 
be.
 
Chapter 1, Verse 3
Upwards flows the truth form, and so upward flows manifest generosity, and 
 
this, is how we become rich. That is, to be generous to those who know the 
 
truth form, who truly understand it, and to be so upward in our manifest 
 
generosity, yes, or yea as Kraff sometimes says meaning much the same, those 
 
or those who are truly blessed, who are the right and are known as not just of 
 
Kraff, but by Kraff and true to that which kraff understood.  So let yourself 
 
know those upwards of you, and be known by them. The is Kifflom and there is 
 
Krant, and both be praised through manifest generosity.
 
Chapter 2, Verse 1 – Psi
If you understand this, you know all things, and if you know all things you 
 
are of Kraff, just as Kraff took the form of an Eagle or a peach tree, as the 
 
literature has shown and as the tract now makes manifest, likens its 
 
generosity, which should be upwards and manifest and like it in truth form, 
 
which should be understood.
If you are confused you are wrong, as Kraff made clear, confusion was not 
 
merely confusion, but proof of all that is wrong, and if you believe, then 
 
nothing is greater than believing completely and believing completely makes 
 
you into the peach tree that flows upwards or the apple tree that becomes a 
 
dove or the other way around.
Chapter 2 Verse 2
 
Nothing shows truth form more than upwards generosity and nothing shows 
 
wrongness more than doubt. No one is weaker than the questioner. Not one 
 
person. Not even a really weak person, without any strength at all. Or a 
 
lettuce. Yes, I want to be clear, as clear as the lake which truth lives, 
 
which is another metaphor I will come back to, as Kraff came back for us 
 
across Paradigms in this 9th Paradigm, year 157. Hear them speak, oh lovers of 
 
arboreal wisdom! Hold on to the peach tree and the apple tree and give all 
 
that you have in faith and watch fruits flow upward to a bountiful harvest. He 
 
who hungers while others are rich shall someday be rich himself
 
Chapter 2, Verse 3
The lake in which truth lives is very clean and clear, but not as clean or 
 
clear as it is clean and clear that those who have been shown our truth form 
 
and have questioned, and have doubted and have not understood are themselves, 
 
not in fact weak, but the Unsaveables. By even thinking a question, you are 
 
likening yourself to the volcano that sucks lava into itself and explodes 
 
down, causing the entire paradigm to implode and a mighty race of super beings 
 
to be cast adrift into space, as happened once and must never happen again.
 
Chapter 2, Verse 4
Cast off the cane. Not only does questioning kill you, it also kills everyone 
 
you love. It means you do not love them and you wish them to die. That is 
 
clear now. To doubt is to wish death on everyone, that that is all the proof 
 
you need that the world, the apple tree, the peach tree, the dove, the Eagle 
 
are good things, and of Kraff, but there are also many bad things. And those 
 
bad things are doubt. And also upwards generosity , is the most bounteous 
 
thing of all. And bounteousness is a mirror. A mirror in a lake where truth 
 
lives. Drink from this lake and also water from the peach tree but do not 
 
quench the fire that brings the dove, and do not pick the apple that may one 
 
day become and Eagle, a great Eagle who feeds from the lake.
 
 
Chapter 3, Verse 1 – Chi
Give and you shall receive. As someone else said, but whomever said that was 
 
themselves a brilliant man and a friend of Cris, as all brilliant men are, and 
 
a fantastic Epsilonist like all the greater thinkers and philosophers and 
 
celebrities. The literature has been clear on that, and now the tract makes 
 
clear. Indeed, there is a lake where truth lives and in this lake an egg lived 
 
and out of that egg came forth a whole new world. And that world was this 
 
world and this metaphor now ends, and a new one begins. The new metaphor is 
 
the tract and the tract is truth and truth form and a few ideas laid down and 
 
many left out.
 
Chapter 3, Verse 2
No seed is wasted, for seeds of man or tree are a lie. The apple tree and 
 
peach tree lie together in the same orchard, yet there are many trees, just as 
 
a man of Epslion must lie with nine new partners a week lest he wither at the 
 
vine.
 
Chapter 3, Verse 3
Land left unplowed goes fallow, for in all things there is an agrarian 
 
analogy, for the world was created before television. If a woman does not lie 
 
with five upward men of Epsilon a day on the seventh month, the harvest will 
 
surely be meager.
 
Chapter 3, Verse 4
To understand completely is to be complete. That is the central maxim of our 
 
knowledge. And knowledge requires no faith. We are not a religion. We are a 
 
science and a way of understanding everything. And to know everything is to 
 
know that money is your greatest transience and all money should not tie you 
 
in a place but free you to give upwards and to not doubt that doing so is the 
 
most complete thing you can do and that those who doubt you are death dealers 
 
and haters of the Eagle and the dove and the peach tree and the lake of truth 
 
and they wish you dead. Cast them from your lives, and cast a line into the 
 
lake, for it will feed you.
 
Chapter 3, Verse 5
Everything was will be and has a cycle, just as a fool who saves his fruit 
 
sees it rot, a wise man sends his fruit towards the upwards. You have it in 
 
you to be happy, but you are not happy because you are surrounded by men who 
 
want you dead because they doubt and in doubting they prove they are 
 
Unsaveable, so if you cannot kill them, let them go, and move towards the blue 
 
light abd the lake and the apple and the other metaphors and away from the 
 
empty place in which objection and death unite as one.
 
Chapter 3, Verse 6
Doubters shall be spaded under and given a chance to serve as a garden for 
 
descendants of Kraff. I shall not weep. For tears of salt poison the garden 
 
and this is our time of joy.
 
Chapter 3, Verse 7
Negativity is a double and a single. It is always negative. The point of life 
 
is smiling. And nothing makes you smile more than knowing the truth form and 
 
the truth form is 157 years old and the great battle between Kraff and the 
 
Unsaveables that exsists in this paradigm, the 9th paradigm and all proceeding 
 
paradigms back to the 4th paradigm. This is a battle we must win, just like 
 
the end of a movie, including those made by and starring many top celebrities 
 
who are themselves Epsilonists, just like most top philosophers and thinkers 
 
are. This is a battle we can win
 
Chapter 4, Verse 1 – Upsilon
Upward generosity and acknowledgement of the truth is to us as truth is to the 
 
lake and gravity is to the apple tree and fire is to water and doubt is to the 
 
Unsaveable. Previous ideas have been spoken by all of the great men of carbon 
 
who were often secret Epsilonists, although unrevealed until this moment. None 
 
are dead. They sit with Cris in physical or cerebral form and the space travel 
 
is complete, both across paradigms and with your Earth time, year 157. This is 
 
the tract. It was always written. It was never written.
 
Chapter 4, Verse 2
We are all from the same tree. Yet no one shall believe that a winged lizard 
 
could fly or a man with hair the color of a rose does not bring doom with 
 
lies. This is a true as the evil of doubt.
 
Chapter 4, Verse 3
Just as man and woman make water differently, they shall not do it in the 
 
marital bed or on one another unless they that are upwards with the hierarchy 
 
demands it, and even then not that often. Hierarchy is all and upwards 
 
generosity is all. Look upwards and see the stars. This is a kingdom, the 
 
kingdom of Kraff, ruled by Cris, and there are servants and disciples and the 
 
unsaveables who become fertilizer. That is a new metaphor that will carry into 
 
the next paradigm, wherever it shall lie, even onto bumper stickers. For that 
 
which has higher meaning must be told in all manner possible, by oracles, by 
 
brother to brother, and condensed into phrases that others need understand 
 
while trapped in traffic and seeking escape.
 
Chapter 4, Verse 4
Those who doubt do not get to lie with new partners, instead they will be 
 
cooked In the death they bring upon themselves. Indeed the worst the imagine 
 
through doubt is what they will get. Like being raped by a bull-form or a 
 
being the last station in a nasty prison train, or watching everyone they know 
 
have a joyful orgy and they are not invited. That is what doubters will get. 
 
Nothing but bad things, including getting raped by animals and not going to 
 
orgies. There should be no need to repeat that a third time. The peach tree 
 
talks and the apple tree talks, you hear them and you know. You do not hear 
 
them and you know you are a doubter and an unsaveable.
 
Chapter 4, Verse 5
 Your earth partner is to be cherished and therefore shared with the utmost 
 
generosity upwards like all things. And what is upwards generosity? That we 
 
shall come to, once we have once more focused upon the work of the 
 
unsaveables, and that work is questioning and doubting. It is not the 
 
scientific way to doubt. Let that be made clear. It is the way of the thorn 
 
bush or the cactus. They do not speak. Not even a little.
 
Chapter 4, Verse 6
The cactus only grows from sand. Sand makes and earth partner, for from sand 
 
comes glass that forms the pitcher of truth from the lake that holds a cutting 
 
from the peach tree. And once the earth becomes like the cactus they must be 
 
cast out and a newer younger earth partner shall take their place.
 
Chapter 5, Verse 1 – Tau
Only the apple tree and the peach tree speak. These are the trees we came from 
 
and they are the same tree. Peaches are in fact apples and they are the tree 
 
that was in the lake of knowledge that was in the egg that was near the Eagle 
 
I mentioned above.
 
Chapter 5, Verse 2
The mark of Kraff adorns many who are blessed. Some descendants of Kraff have 
 
a mark of birth that adorns the elbow, or buttocks, nut he who has the stain 
 
of wine on his head or face – they drink with Kraff in the 4th paradigm.
 
Chapter 5, Verse 3
Do not forget about the dove. The dove is the dove of love and of truth that 
 
is an old metaphor and one that unites all knowledge under Epsilonism, and 
 
like all who pursue truth and love he does not just by manifesting upward 
 
generosity but also by killing unsaveables in the great fight between Kraff 
 
and his enemies that has gone on for paradigms. In the 4th paradigm it was 
 
energy. In the fifth paradigm it was fire. In the 6th paradigm it was the love 
 
of ignorance and the Eagle. In the 7th it was the great dispute in which 
 
unsaveables learnt to take the form of conflicted reason. In the 8th, it was 
 
amnesia. In this 9th it is within the being form – that is red, and he with 
 
red and of red in the hair form is not of Kraff and he is the embodiment of 
 
that which is Unsaveable. All these paradigms will be revealed to you through 
 
upwards generosity. Their meaning shall be made clear as your role in the 
 
great battles will be made cleat. Nothing is truer to the dove of love than 
 
killing unsaveables.
 
Chapter 4, Verse 4
And what is this thing of which you speak? What is this upwards generosity? It 
 
is the most precious thing, the giving to those who do not need, so cannot be 
 
challenged for greed, who have so much they do not need anymore and therefore 
 
can receive your gift kindly and with the truth form and with understanding 
 
that is everything. It is the gift towards Cris, to Cris, or any other senior 
 
epsilonists who are his form in your life as all senior Epsilonists are the 
 
same spirit and mind form in this paradigm, as the Eagle is the peach tree and 
 
other metaphors also become blurred. It is by asking Cris to receive that we 
 
ourselves get the most, that is the clearest thing.
 
Chapter 5, Verse 5
And if not Cris then the program itself for the program knows truth and by 
 
paying for truth we guarantee its veracity. Just like the top celebrities and 
 
great thinkers who are open Epsilonists and many other whom you do not know 
 
are Epsilonists but happily triple tithe their upward generosity as they owe 
 
everything to the program and acknowledge this. Triple tithing makes a truth 
 
form more true.
 
Chapter 5, Verse 6
Nothing is more true than giving all that you have including that which you do 
 
not yet have, like loans or mortgages or indeed that which has been taken by 
 
Unsaveables and must be taken from them. The world of this paradigm belongs to 
 
us, and so return it to us. By giving it to Cris, he will save it for all of 
 
us. By knowing us, he knows all. By saving us, he saves all who can be saved. 
 
Here ends the first part of the tract of the 9th paradigm. Kifflom.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 07:18 AM

I decided to read about each of the Greek letters, I don't know much about them and had no idea they each have many different meanings. I tried to find things about them that could some how relate to the game and I got this.

 

Epsilon means 5 and is also the most distant ring around Uranus.

 

Omega - End

Psi - Psychiatry

Chi - X

Upsilon - Light

Tau - Time

 

This is very vague but if you read about each one on wikipedia you can see where I got this. Like I said there are many meanings of each letter but this is what I could find in relation to GTAV.

 

Anyway, what I take from that little bit of info is:

 

Omega - Beat the game.

Psi - Get the report.

Chi - The X's

Upsilon - Day/Night

Tau - Time of day

 

Take what you want from this, I would much rather someone else read into them as well because it's a lot of info to interpret. I think it's weird that Epsilon means 5 and there are 5 boxes on the mural/the 5 chapters above/5 heists/supposedly 5 missing tracts etc. Also the Hippie Camp mentions Uranus. Finally it is quite strange that the missing Phi looks like an eye. This is some good stuff, I hope we can find more in the meanings of the letters.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 07:40 AM

the missing tracts were a messup on R*'s part.

If you look on social they removed the other 5


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 10:29 AM

the missing tracts were a messup on R*'s part.

If you look on social they removed the other 5

???  We are talking about the missing greek letter in the list of written chapters you get access to when you complete the epsilon misssions and collect the 10 tracts......not the fact that R* accidentally posted that there were 15 tracts to find instead of ten..........I think you need to re-read these posts sir!

 

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 10:42 AM Edited by Macontheweb007, 03 January 2014 - 01:59 AM.

Noticed something else yesterday......have you looked at the screensaver they give you if you follow the link from the epsilon twitter feed?

 

Taking out all the stuff that is being obviously pushed into your brain to distract you....I noticed something strange.......the epsilon symbol revolves and stops very briefly when it is half revolved......perhaps there is a clue in the symbol itself? I find this odd as an animated graphic could be expected to pause ofr a split second when it reaches it's start point, but not half way through the animation.........

 

Here's the link!

 

twitter feed..........https://twitter.com/EpsilonismToday

 

Screensaver.............clink on the link on the twitter feed.

 

It is very suttle....but a clue would be, watch it revolving, then it stops, just for a split second.

 

THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON HERE GUYS,  The key is going to be something to do with the text we get after collecting all the tracts, the phyc report and the greek symbology.

 

What about overlaying the reversed epsilon symbol over the mural?

 

Best regards

 

Mac

 

P.S before all the kids start calling me a troll and all that jazz, I am not, I have spent 4 days looking at all this and really do believe that R* have put the best Easter egg/treasure hunt in gaming history together, and it is not going to be easy to find.  Always baffled me why R* pushed their release date back by months and months...at the risk of loosing market shares and all that........could it be because they wanted to make the best treaure hunt ever put into a game?   Sounds like the kind of thing R* would want to be known for...........just a thought!  


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 10:58 AM

http://socialclub.ro...5_0awFQpnikd8oQ

 

found this a while back not sure if it helps out


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 11:31 AM Edited by Macontheweb007, 28 October 2013 - 11:51 AM.

http://socialclub.ro...5_0awFQpnikd8oQ

 

found this a while back not sure if it helps out

Nice find! I am starting to think that R* delierately put a whole boatload of symbology all over the map to confuse us, and have given some deliberate clues to guide us to the ones we need!

 

Ever walked around and thought you could make something fit the mural?  ever thought that something looked like a symbol (the whole Mount chilliad murial and the fact that it has been solved by finding the UFO? (Which by the way is the biggest red herring ever........if it was the end of the mystery, why have UFO's in different locations?  Surely you would just have 1 UFO that appeared and we would all think it was cool..........not 4 of em all over the gaff!

 

Does make me laugh when poeple say that the mystery is solved?  How?  What did you get?  To see a UFO...big deal!

 

Remember how the Alturistc guys go on about the under 40's ruining society with technology, what if this is a big hint...the younger generation will do all the normal things to find the answer......like beeping spacebuggy horns at everything they think is an interesting area, trying to find glitches to find tunnels and all that jazz (Which let face it everyone is doing)! and then giving up and posting how the chiliad mural is solved because they can't find anything else apart from the UFO.................................Let me ask a question, how many people even fully read the epsilon writings? Who ever thought of looking for a bigger code to break?  Why did R* require an extra 6 months to get the game out?

 

There is something going on here, and I think that you are going to have to think outside the box to get it!

 

running around the map like headless chickens cannot be the answer, we need to be guided to the answer ...how do you do that.....through "Davinchi code" style cryptic clues .......that MATURE problem solvers would and should be looking at.

 

Another thing to think about, what is the outcome of putting the worlds best treasure hunt into the worlds (Currently) best game?

 

1. Everyone gets pulled into looking for/trying to solve the mystery. You tell your friends and family, they get involved and try and figure it out, thus the game getting even more exposure......a good example of this is the fact my missus is now hunting the web trying to find meanings to symbols...and she HATES playstation games!!!  I am 40 years old and this one has me thinking and my 18 year old daugher and my wife........!

2. Everyone gets frustrated running around the map looking for entrances and gives up, but will definately download the DLC for the game...just to see if it adds to the mystery/answer = MORE SALES=MONEY!

 

The screensaver also makes a funny satatement about a train for the bad guys and people wanting to butT [email protected] you.......could that be a hint that everyone is getting frustrated and shouting "there is nothing more to find" all over forums at the moment..........."Unbelievers"

 

This could also be the worlds biggest wind up..........but why would rockstar make websites and screensavers hinting at clues if there is nothing to find?  Would that not turn you off ever trying to find anything in a R* game ever again?  Would it not hurt their sales in the long run?

 

Going back to the whole possible clue in the Aluristic nutters morse code findings (under 40's ruining everything with technology) hinting that the younger generation has lost skills like patience, lateral thinking, and all that stuff and just want technology to do it all for them,  How many of the jounger players gave up on the epsilon missions when they had to run around in the robes for 10 days.......good way of filtering out people with no patience from getting to the stage of reading the epsilon pages to find the first real clue.....the missing greek symbol............see what I mean?  This is some deep Davinchi code style puzzle! 

 

BELIEVE AND START THINKING IN A DEEPER "DAVINCHI CODE" STYLE AND WE WILL CRACK THIS BUGGER!

 

As an incentive, what if rocksaer gave a $1 million real cash to the first person to crack it?  Let's face it, it will go viral on the internet the minute someone cracks the code!

 

If not, we will have some fun trying..........

 

Best regards

 

Mac

 

P.S If you do crack it and get the cash, remember who pointed you in the right direction!!! :)


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 11:42 AM

 I am starting to think that R* delierately put a whole boatload of symbology all over the map to confuse us, and have given some deliberate clues to guide us to the ones we need!

 

 

 

No, the game designer put symbology and references in the map to add to a few overarching themes, namely aliens and government corruption.  There is something called socio-historic actuality at play as well, which uses aspects of the real world within the narrative of the fictional world. GTA has always done this but it's particularly prevalent given the size and scope of the world in GTA V.

 

However, the vast majority of the Easter Bunnies (Gunters will never happen, stop trying to make it happen) running around like blue-arsed flies are confusing these referential creations for clues in some bizarre mystery that doesn't exist.


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 11:51 AM Edited by Zephich, 28 October 2013 - 11:51 AM.

mys·ter·y 1  (mibreve.gifsprime.giftschwa.gif-remacr.gif)

n. pl. mys·ter·ies
1. One that is not fully understood or that baffles or eludes the understanding; an enigma: How he got in is a mystery.

The mystery exists, the answer doesn't. Yet?

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