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Posted 23 October 2013 - 04:57 PM

Do you guys take into account the platform of release when GTA V is compared with any past GTA?
There is a percentage who prefer past GTA'S over V while some not but they end up comparing the games on opposite platforms making no sense to me.
So the real reason is overshadowed with wrong list of comparisons that's not fair for GTA V because it beats every GTA as the best console game till date.
What's really missing in V has yet to be judged on the platform we are all eagerly waiting and if Rockstar understands the players dissatisfaction we still have a chance to see many improvements in Single Player edition alone!

Now if you still have anything to really point out "a flaw" in V with correct platform in comparison I highly request you to explain the good or bad in relation to any GTA?

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 05:08 PM

The reason they compare is because it is still the same series. Everyone expects it to do significantly better on next-gen than it did on the PS2. In 2004 we had repetitive long side missions, but a lot of them, gambling and other gameplay features in what was one of the biggest open-world games of the time. Perhaps Marrowind was the only thing as large or larger. It blew away all of its competition in terms of quality gameplay and scope. 

 

Here we are 9 years later and we have better hardware, more disc space, and we have a bunch of short simple side missions that don't repeat, we're still missing a lot of things that were in SA. We have side-missions but they aren't the side-missions we were looking for they were the ones Rockstar decided we wanted. It's not a bad game or a game that lacks things to do, but it's not perfect by any means. In some ways it showcases how far we've come from the PS2 but it also highlights how we also have yet to really catch up. 

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 05:20 PM

Do you not realize that GTA started before PS2 ? It began in a 1 dimensional PC Game, which took almost 7 years to get to PS2

 

The game predates back to 1997, the improvements to date are extraordinary, and the attention to detail is crazy.

 

I have no complaints I've followed them since 97' and will continue to follow them into the future!

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 05:21 PM

Fair points!!

But Now take the two generations neck to neck it is more demanding on the technical part after 9 years and the features that are missing won't allow a fine experience becoz the SCALE of the game world has been offered by Rockstar truly real and big. The amount of resources that go into making it feel and look good has a lot to do with complexity of the activities scripted or structured around them.
I just want to give one benefit of doubt that Rockstar really wanted every bit stuffed as in past and honestly did not on purpose drop it for GTAO.
If the hardware really wasn't capable and still they designed this beauty then we should be happy that as consoles go it fully got every juice out and a good job at that

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 05:32 PM

If it is the same series, then many ppl will compare the recent games with past games of the same series. Like Metal Gear Solid. Many of the fans thought MGS4 was a disappointment compared to MGS3. It wasn't the gameplay, but it was the lack of unique bosses and story telling.

 

In GTA case, GTA 4 was a disappointment because it didn't have all the features that GTA: SA had and the missions were too repetitive. In GTA V case, it STILL doesn't have all of the features that GTA: SA had. But it improved on many features and added some new ones.


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 05:43 PM Edited by AtomicPunk, 23 October 2013 - 05:46 PM.

 I compare them based on what was accomplished at the time. I was there for every one and watched it evolve. Every new GTA was a step up from the last. Starting with IV, there were less features and stuff but we were introduced to better driving physics and a really good collision model(vehicle damage). With V, how did we proceed the last one? Graphics? That sh*t isn't gonna cut it, friendo. With each new game since IV, less is moar seems to be the trend that R* is on. Hell, for the time, GTA III was mind blowing. VC took it to the next level with flight and a bigger world. San An knocked the ball outta the park with features and size. IV scaled back. V scaled back but offered us a couple thing we used to already have. I thought that 2013 GTA would be the GTA of them all. How wrong was I? V is weak in many ways and it just doesn't have that nostalgia factor, or memorable events like GTA's of old.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 05:49 PM

It's the nostalgia man

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 05:56 PM

 I compare them based on what was accomplished at the time. I was there for every one and watched it evolve. Every new GTA was a step up from the last. Starting with IV, there were less features and stuff but we were introduced to better driving physics and a really good collision model(vehicle damage). With V, how did we proceed the last one? Graphics? That sh*t isn't gonna cut it, friendo. With each new game since IV, less is moar seems to be the trend that R* is on. Hell, for the time, GTA III was mind blowing. VC took it to the next level with flight and a bigger world. San An knocked the ball outta the park with features and size. IV scaled back. V scaled back but offered us a couple thing we used to already have. I thought that 2013 GTA would be the GTA of them all. How wrong was I? V is weak in many ways and it just doesn't have that nostalgia factor, or memorable events like GTA's of old.

 

I would agree with a lot of this except I would say that IV was more of stepping stone to 'greater things'. GTA III started it all for 3D, VC expanded upon it, SA blew it out of the water in terms of features, IV started it all for HD, but V doesn't really expand upon it so much as take a few steps roughly to the side, and we don't seem to get a San Andreas this gen... which kinda sucks. 

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 06:19 PM

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It's something about this... That doesn't make Gta V as great it should be. I don't smile when I play Gta V, only when I'm looking at the amazing graphics of the sunset or stuff like that. But the nostalgic feeling isn't there, I don't feel like I'm in San Andreas but I do when I play Gta SA.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 06:33 PM Edited by xterrorist, 23 October 2013 - 06:33 PM.

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It's something about this... That doesn't make Gta V as great it should be. I don't smile when I play Gta V, only when I'm looking at the amazing graphics of the sunset or stuff like that. But the nostalgic feeling isn't there, I don't feel like I'm in San Andreas but I do when I play Gta SA.

I miss stuff like driving around with a headless corpse in the passengers seat.

Is that wrong?


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 06:40 PM

I compare them based on what was accomplished at the time. I was there for every one and watched it evolve. Every new GTA was a step up from the last. Starting with IV, there were less features and stuff but we were introduced to better driving physics and a really good collision model(vehicle damage). With V, how did we proceed the last one? Graphics? That sh*t isn't gonna cut it, friendo. With each new game since IV, less is moar seems to be the trend that R* is on. Hell, for the time, GTA III was mind blowing. VC took it to the next level with flight and a bigger world. San An knocked the ball outta the park with features and size. IV scaled back. V scaled back but offered us a couple thing we used to already have. I thought that 2013 GTA would be the GTA of them all. How wrong was I? V is weak in many ways and it just doesn't have that nostalgia factor, or memorable events like GTA's of old.


I agree with everything you said except the nostalgia part. I think V has some very memorable parts.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 06:44 PM

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It's something about this... That doesn't make Gta V as great it should be. I don't smile when I play Gta V, only when I'm looking at the amazing graphics of the sunset or stuff like that. But the nostalgic feeling isn't there, I don't feel like I'm in San Andreas but I do when I play Gta SA.

I miss stuff like driving around with a headless corpse in the passengers seat.
Is that wrong?
no because that's what made SA great! You could do anything in Gta SA because it's old and you don't have cops on your ass every second, I'm think this "wanting more realism" in Gta is a bad thing... Now that I think of it, i really want a next gen remake of SA.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 06:53 PM

I compare them based on what was accomplished at the time. I was there for every one and watched it evolve. Every new GTA was a step up from the last. Starting with IV, there were less features and stuff but we were introduced to better driving physics and a really good collision model(vehicle damage). With V, how did we proceed the last one? Graphics? That sh*t isn't gonna cut it, friendo. With each new game since IV, less is moar seems to be the trend that R* is on. Hell, for the time, GTA III was mind blowing. VC took it to the next level with flight and a bigger world. San An knocked the ball outta the park with features and size. IV scaled back. V scaled back but offered us a couple thing we used to already have. I thought that 2013 GTA would be the GTA of them all. How wrong was I? V is weak in many ways and it just doesn't have that nostalgia factor, or memorable events like GTA's of old.


I agree with everything you said except the nostalgia part. I think V has some very memorable parts.
I disagree with you on that... I don't feel like V is in Los Santos/ San Andreas... Compton south central area is very small, no easy Los Santos, Blaine county doesn't feel like the deserts from SA, the country side/forest area doesn't bring back any memories.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 06:56 PM

I don't compare, so I don't bother with being disappointed.


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:12 PM

I personally think it was rushed out into the market. R* currently don't have this title due for release on next-gen and with those consoles available by Xmas they would have lost a lot of potential earnings from those that ditch their current consoles.

There's clues all around the game. Fairly short storyline, an unused Casino and Race Track, no properties to buy in SP expect the useless business that just have you picking up supplies every now again, etc, etc.

I mean, ALL of the high-end apartments online look the same and I'm guessing the lower ones do to. That's just poor form from a developer that has been renowned for pushing the boundaries in almost all of it's previous releases in this series.

Some of you have just been won over by fancy graphics...
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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:15 PM

I personally think it was rushed out into the market. R* currently don't have this title due for release on next-gen and with those consoles available by Xmas they would have lost a lot of potential earnings from those that ditch their current consoles.
There's clues all around the game. Fairly short storyline, an unused Casino and Race Track, no properties to buy in SP expect the useless business that just have you picking up supplies every now again, etc, etc.
I mean, ALL of the high-end apartments online look the same and I'm guessing the lower ones do to. That's just poor form from a developer that has been renowned for pushing the boundaries in almost all of it's previous releases in this series.
Some of you have just been won over by fancy graphics...

I agree and this is why I expect to see something amazing for the next Gta title.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:18 PM

Compare IV to SA: No problem
Compare V to IV or SA: No can do
:dozing: fml this forum is dumb.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 08:42 PM

What? If anything, GTA V is more comparable to SA due to the size of the map. GTA IV went in a different direction.

Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying GTA online, but still feel a little disappointed. I didn't expect it to have EVERYTHING that was in SA but it ended up having hardly anything.

No betting shops, no casino, no fast food shops, no pool, no arcade machines, no girlfriends, no properties, no gym.....I could go on but you get the idea.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 09:47 PM

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It's something about this... That doesn't make Gta V as great it should be. I don't smile when I play Gta V, only when I'm looking at the amazing graphics of the sunset or stuff like that. But the nostalgic feeling isn't there, I don't feel like I'm in San Andreas but I do when I play Gta SA.

 

Well, it can't be nostalgic because it's only been a month. I would like to bookmark this thread tho. The next five years or whatever until the next GTA comes out, I wonder how many ppl would consider this game as being nostalgic.


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Posted 23 October 2013 - 09:58 PM

How can anybody be nostaligic about a game that came out little more than a month ago. I am sure nine years some people will hate a GTA that comes out because it just doesn't give them the same feeling V does.

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Posted 23 October 2013 - 10:51 PM

 I compare them based on what was accomplished at the time. I was there for every one and watched it evolve. Every new GTA was a step up from the last. Starting with IV, there were less features and stuff but we were introduced to better driving physics and a really good collision model(vehicle damage). With V, how did we proceed the last one? Graphics? That sh*t isn't gonna cut it, friendo. With each new game since IV, less is moar seems to be the trend that R* is on. Hell, for the time, GTA III was mind blowing. VC took it to the next level with flight and a bigger world. San An knocked the ball outta the park with features and size. IV scaled back. V scaled back but offered us a couple thing we used to already have. I thought that 2013 GTA would be the GTA of them all. How wrong was I? V is weak in many ways and it just doesn't have that nostalgia factor, or memorable events like GTA's of old.

 

I agree with this for most part.

 

GTA V just did not wow me like the past GTAs did, like Vice City and San Andreas. A great game, but no wow factor. 


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:42 AM

GTA V can reach to the level that is best to the possibility of having a game with total experience better on playing terms than building a world with lots of stuff to do in the past.

I'm a bit confused about GTA V at the moment does it not have any thing what so ever?

As many rightly believe, it's upto us how we make the most out of a game after completion.

 

Some things are wrongly replaced with un-interesting stuff but that won't change the fact Rockstar has definitely accomplished much out the retiring gens, decisions on the part of addressing the nostalgia some what dissatisfies ( as in the case of Hitman absolution too ) but it'll have to make compromises taking into Graphics + Animations and elevation of many technical areas ( it matters most since a lot of work went into RAGE engine optimized to run better esp. on consoles ) and taking new things in and making way out for the old stuff ( good or bad differs from player to player Ex: many are in favor of the new car physics while some are against new cops system )

 

In short, it is nice to see a change in GTA world and any modest creator involved in modding or game development for once, should take notice how well executed esp. on retiring consoles.

The GTA V we want falls short on probably only just one thing and that's the platform in picture. There'll probably be chances to see improvements you can go for future releases if Rockstar also feels the same that they could have offered a great deal of improvements and additions.

 

Lastly, those complaining hold importantly the argument over

1. Fixing GTAO as that's the new direction many ( excluding myself ) in majority are wanting to be the best experience for now

2. Certain elements in game are a waste of development time and that's no way agreeable as a good replacement to some of the annoying activities in V

3. Story could have been a lot better  which was something desirable and the most hyped.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 04:39 PM

You do realize they pushed back the release for over 2 years now. The game wasn't rushed by any means.

 

Rockstar has grown from a Walgreens into a Costco. Take into account how many ACTIVE titles they have. I didn't follow any of those other series from Rockstar and I myself complained about the release being pushed back and back. Little did I know that Rockstar had other projects in the works.

 

GTA V is as good as the technology and graphics allowed it to be. You honestly can't say everything in this world you watch is perfect 1080p

 

Most of the graphics and video you watch in this world isn't even HD. In fact the shove CGI so far down your neck in most movies now adays that they all appear unrealistic and cheap.

 

FORGET ABOUT XBOX ONE & PS4 for 1 minute and remember that MICROSOFT & SONY have both delayed the new systems for over 2 1/2 years. Why would a company who PROGRAMS video games push back the release date yet again and force the WORLD to buy a BRAND NEW overpriced video game system just to play a $60 game.

 

You have to be joking. I applaud Rockstar for ignoring the Xbox One & PS4. I'm not buying any new systems for at least 2 years.

 

I barely bought an Original WII 2 years ago. They shove all these devices at us you have to learn to ignore them. You can't always live in the NOW. This is reality and expecting the world to pay $400+ & $60 for a new game is a joke. And Rockstar knew that.

 

Thank you Rockstar for this awesome game!


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 04:46 PM Edited by Official General, 29 October 2013 - 04:47 PM.

Sorry, mistake, I already posted on this thread, oops ! 


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 05:33 PM

 

 

It's something about this... That doesn't make Gta V as great it should be. I don't smile when I play Gta V, only when I'm looking at the amazing graphics of the sunset or stuff like that. But the nostalgic feeling isn't there, I don't feel like I'm in San Andreas but I do when I play Gta SA.

I miss stuff like driving around with a headless corpse in the passengers seat.
Is that wrong?
Now that I think of it, i really want a next gen remake of SA.

 

Kill yourself.


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Posted 30 October 2013 - 06:25 PM

Don't expect any GTA game on the PS4, Xbox One, or PC for at least a year. They have their hands full with GTA Online and the other titles that Rockstar games produces.

 

In fact it would probably be safe to say don't expect it for another 2 years. Keep in mind PS4 only comes out Nov 15th & Xbox One comes out Nov 22nd

 

Don't hold your breathe for 2014, probably 2015-2016 for the next version.

 

Besides Rockstar games already confirmed that they plan on expanding the GTA V maps eventually with new islands and more places to visit and things to do. They also stated that if they make any additions to the game they will only be made as DLC's for the PS3 & Xbox 360. They have no intent of forcing the game to the new consoles.





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