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Are Las Venturas and San Fierro even in San andreas?

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:51 PM

I mean the state of san andreas in the hd era because to me it seems it just consists of los santos and blaine county?

Does anybody know the answer?


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:54 PM

Can Jesus and the Evil coexists in this world?

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:54 PM Edited by oCrapaCreeper, 08 October 2013 - 10:55 PM.

San Fierro and Venturas are mentioned a few times in IV and V, so they do exist somewhere. But they are probably not in the state of San Andreas in the HD era, or at least in some other part of San Andreas outside of Los Santos and Blaine County.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:55 PM

They're in northern San Andreas.  During one mission, Trevor said something along the lines of "They would have taken us half way around southern San Andreas by the time they stop."  He was near Paleto Bay when he said that.


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:55 PM

Belgium rules LV and SF in the HD era.

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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:56 PM

GTA 5 is only based in Southern San Andreas. Didn't they say it was a "re-imagination of Southern California" way back in 2011?

San Fierro is definitely in San Andreas. Las Venturas might be too, but with the whole different universe thing I'm not sure, it was in San Andreas in the GTA 3 era, not sure about the "HD" era, seeing as Las Vegas is in Nevada and not Cali.
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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:56 PM

you only have 2 counties in from the whole state fyi


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Posted 08 October 2013 - 10:58 PM

Seems as though GTA V's map is just southern state. Had the PS3 been more powerful, or if Rockstar directed the game solely for next-gen and PC, you'd have a full state of a much larger scale including redesigns of the other cities, imo.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 12:08 AM

In IV one of the websites (My Room Online I think) mentions Red County, Montgomery, and Fort Carson. So all those places still exist, just north of the V map somewhere probably.. Since R* is trying to more closely base the places on real life counter parts it makes sense Fierro would still be in SA, but like SomeManForGTA said, maybe Venturas would be moved to a Nevada equivalent now. For what it's worth they said Vice City was still in Florida though, unless they retcon that later on down the line.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 12:15 AM

I think it's a safe bet that San Fierro is still part of San Andreas - northern San Andreas. 

 

Las Venturas however, I'm not sure. San Andreas was initially a composite of California and Nevada but IV/HD universe has changed the game somewhat. All we know for sure now is that San Andreas is still (at least) partly California.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 12:19 AM

Yes cuz it was showed in the IV TV along with a wanna-be CJ.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 12:48 AM Edited by Magic_Al, 09 October 2013 - 12:50 AM.

Seems as though GTA V's map is just southern state. Had the PS3 been more powerful, or if Rockstar directed the game solely for next-gen and PC, you'd have a full state of a much larger scale including redesigns of the other cities, imo.

 

It's not about hardware as much as how many people and how much time it would take to design that.  If they'd split the same design man-hours  of GTA V for one city into three cities, it would have turned out being very similar in size to GTA San Andreas just with more countryside, because the total combined city land area is similar in SA, IV, and V.

 

Regarding OP's question, yes the rest of San Andreas exists outside the GTAV map, just like there is more to Liberty State than we see in IV and the rest of Florida exists beyond Vice City.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 01:14 AM

i don't think they exist anymore because san andreas now looks like an island so a major disaster must have happened or it's in a different dimention. :lol:

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 03:28 AM

I'm sure they do/are, Los Santos/Blaine County being on their own island shouldn't necessarily mean no other locations couldn't also be part of the same state.

I personally don't really like how it's just a big island, the Eastern side should have been landlocked. Maybe if they make a game with the bigger picture of all cities included they'll reimagine everything as being part of the same connected continent with Los Santos/Blaine being attached at the Easy and Alderney joining at the west.
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Posted 09 October 2013 - 04:38 AM

If you go to the airport one of the gates says san fierro airway so yes it exists

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 01:57 PM

Of course they do they're just not included in this game which sucks ass


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 02:08 PM

i don't think they exist anymore because san andreas now looks like an island so a major disaster must have happened or it's in a different dimention. :lol:


SA was build of 3 islands: LS and Red County, San Fierro and its surroundings, and Las Venturas and the surrounding desert. They all were connected by bridges and highways.

Though the disaster idea is interesting, there is also no mention of a disaster in V, which they probably would have mentioned in the beginning of the game.

To me it just would have taken a lot more money, time, and effort to create HD versions of SF and LV with their countrysides as well. Perhaps when VI comes out on next gen, but it would have been a waste to recreate all of SA for consoles that will be outdated by next year.

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 02:23 PM

so, san fierro is located in a separated northern san andreas island? and las venturas in a fictional state of nevada?


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 02:46 PM

San Fierro and Venturas are mentioned a few times in IV and V, so they do exist somewhere. But they are probably not in the state of San Andreas in the HD era, or at least in some other part of San Andreas outside of Los Santos and Blaine County.

sf and lv is in san andreas but they are not near los santos imo


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 02:52 PM

San Fierro is in the state of San Andreas. Las Venturas may or may not be. I think a lot of people miss the point on these maps. Literally the game takes place on an island and if you imagine the gta world through that, then the USA is nothing but tiny Islands all over. That's not how it is though. Instead of setting up land barriers, we get coasts, but in "reality" as in the actual gta world and not what we're literally seeing, everything is connected like it would be in real life. To the characters in game all of San Andreas is connected, yet for the games sake we see them as Islands.

That's my take on it all.
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Posted 09 October 2013 - 03:02 PM

I honestly don't see how Las Venturas or San Fierro would of fit into the narrative of the game.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 03:07 PM

They got replaced by mountains

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 03:20 PM

I saw San Fierro text at the airport terminal. There are also supposed flights flying to it.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 03:26 PM

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 03:27 PM

San Fierro is in the state of San Andreas. Las Venturas may or may not be. I think a lot of people miss the point on these maps. Literally the game takes place on an island and if you imagine the gta world through that, then the USA is nothing but tiny Islands all over. That's not how it is though. Instead of setting up land barriers, we get coasts, but in "reality" as in the actual gta world and not what we're literally seeing, everything is connected like it would be in real life. To the characters in game all of San Andreas is connected, yet for the games sake we see them as Islands.

That's my take on it all.


That would be my take on it, however there always seems to be missions involving driving boats around areas of the mao that would (logically) be connected to the mainland (e.g. The Jetski races on the eastern side of the map in GTA V)

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 03:31 PM

The map looks like this only due to technical limitations.(ancient hardware with 512mb of ram)

LV and SF do exist in this universe.


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:37 PM

San Fierro is in the state of San Andreas. Las Venturas may or may not be. I think a lot of people miss the point on these maps. Literally the game takes place on an island and if you imagine the gta world through that, then the USA is nothing but tiny Islands all over. That's not how it is though. Instead of setting up land barriers, we get coasts, but in "reality" as in the actual gta world and not what we're literally seeing, everything is connected like it would be in real life. To the characters in game all of San Andreas is connected, yet for the games sake we see them as Islands.
That's my take on it all.


Interesting idea. How I see it, is SA is built of 3 large islands, and in V we are simply focusing on 1 of the 3 islands of SA.

I think they want to save that for a console that is more equipped for a game that scale
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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:45 PM

San Fierro and LV are in NoSA, LS is in SoSa and it was always like that. Northern SanAn and Southern SanAn were ALWAYS on different islands even in GTA San Andreas just not as super far away as is alluded to in GTA V.


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 05:52 PM Edited by spamtackey, 10 October 2013 - 05:52 PM.

While I know Rockstar hates invisible walls, I think their insistence on never using them is somewhat a hindrance on their world building. Los Santos and Blaine County are awesome, but NO bridges to any part of San Andreas? No part of north San Andreas in sight? Stuff like that bugs me because it isolates the map and makes it feel more like a ... well a game map. San Andreas doesn't feel like a state to me from either GTA SA, where it felt way too small, nor V where it feels large but unconnected. Even if we can't go to the other cities at least acknowledge them. Make a never-ending bridge where your car blows up if you go too far, make it so you can't swim across without being killed by a shark, but let us see something to acknowledge that there is a world out there.


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Posted 10 October 2013 - 07:02 PM Edited by jamieleng, 10 October 2013 - 07:07 PM.

Yes, San Fierro & Las Venturas definitely exist (in both HD GTA's on radio/TV/internet/police computer etc.) Whether they all exist in SA state, probably not. The new maps are recreated pretty closely to their real life counterparts & the whole HD world is closer to real life (for better or worse). So that leads me to believe Las Venturas is based in their own version of Nevada.

 

The map being an island, is still the best boundary for an open world game that features aircraft. 





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