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Poll: What do you think of replaying missions like Violent Duct? (124 member(s) have cast votes)

Is replaying a mission for money bad?

  1. Yes! R* should remove the option! It CLEARLY is glitching and exploiting a bug! (27 votes [21.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.77%

  2. No, these people are just bitter because we are playing smart, not hard. Replaying is an option R* put in and even encouraged. (97 votes [78.23%])

    Percentage of vote: 78.23%

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#31

Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:24 PM

Grinding is not fun. Pure boring. But it's still faster & the bets way to earn cash. Other than doing other repeating missions.


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#32

Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:24 PM


 

People are just bitter.
 
They don't have the patience to grind a mission (or do any kind of heavy mission play) so they get all bent out of shape when other players do it.
 
"Wah, I don't want to do missions but other people are and they're ranking up and getting rich, it's not fair."
 
Funny how they are conspicuously silent about players who keep doing different missions over and over again to rank up and get rich.

Lol bitter about what? People who have no lives playing to get rich without enjoying the game? Playing the same mission over and over again for hours to make money instead of trying different missions.

Personally, I enjoy the racing on this game. Whats the point of playing a game if you're just going to make it boring?
 
 
What makes you think we aren't enjoying the game?

The fact that you're making it redundant. Youll make a ridiculous amount of money, buy everything then get bored because there's nothing to do...

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#33

Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:26 PM

Personally I just think all the missions payout should be raised and perhaps lower the payout of violent duct.  Why give me 9k for a mission that takes two minutes and 2k for one that takes me 15?  It doesn't make sense.  I don't "farm" violent duct but every time I get a message for it, I have to join.  It takes so little time and pays for the next four times someone murders me for no reason.

Exaclty take hay no banca it pays 9k but the sh*t you have to do for that 9k is stupid compare to what you do in VD.


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#34

Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:29 PM

I am somewhere in the middle. While I feel it's cheesy and takes away the fun of seeing what others have earned.. At the end of the day, it doesn't effect my gameplay. Plus it's kind of hard to be mad at them with Rockstar having the whole money pack thing. I think the only reason Rockstar even patched it was to encourage people to buy those instead of farming.


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#35

Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:31 PM

 

My opinion? I'm sick of seeing these threads, wait till you hit lvl 40+ (I'm 53ish) then you get certain missions that take the same time as violent duct but you get $18000+ & RP3000 + Of course I want to replay certain missions because I enjoy them, the money and rp is clear bonus. Racing and Survival are prob my faves and both payouts are reasonable but I could prob earn 3 times as much racing in the time it would take me to complete the 10 rounds of survival.

If you're a half decent driver you can consistently make more cash racing than the time it takes to do the majority of different missions.

 

Also regarding the mission itself and the payout, coke costs a hell of a lot more than meth so the payout should be more for violent duct than the other meth missions.

Alan can I get a game with you and Joe Kinnear

 

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#36

Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:31 PM

 

 

 

People are just bitter.
 
They don't have the patience to grind a mission (or do any kind of heavy mission play) so they get all bent out of shape when other players do it.
 
"Wah, I don't want to do missions but other people are and they're ranking up and getting rich, it's not fair."
 
Funny how they are conspicuously silent about players who keep doing different missions over and over again to rank up and get rich.

Lol bitter about what? People who have no lives playing to get rich without enjoying the game? Playing the same mission over and over again for hours to make money instead of trying different missions.

Personally, I enjoy the racing on this game. Whats the point of playing a game if you're just going to make it boring?
 
 
What makes you think we aren't enjoying the game?

The fact that you're making it redundant. Youll make a ridiculous amount of money, buy everything then get bored because there's nothing to do...

 

 

So... because YOU see it as redundant and boring, that must mean that the rest of the community should go ahead and follow suit?

 

No, wait, let me ask a different question:  Exactly how does our way of playing affect your way of playing?  Are we interfering with your fun in game?  I don't see how that could be possible... we're all tied up in missions.


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#37

Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:31 PM

They need to fix the money system. It's been a week and you already see people with 400k apartments and 1m cars. Its way too easy getting money to the point that it's pointless to play legit.

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#38

Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:37 PM


 

 

 

People are just bitter.
 
They don't have the patience to grind a mission (or do any kind of heavy mission play) so they get all bent out of shape when other players do it.
 
"Wah, I don't want to do missions but other people are and they're ranking up and getting rich, it's not fair."
 
Funny how they are conspicuously silent about players who keep doing different missions over and over again to rank up and get rich.

Lol bitter about what? People who have no lives playing to get rich without enjoying the game? Playing the same mission over and over again for hours to make money instead of trying different missions.

Personally, I enjoy the racing on this game. Whats the point of playing a game if you're just going to make it boring?
 
 
What makes you think we aren't enjoying the game?
The fact that you're making it redundant. Youll make a ridiculous amount of money, buy everything then get bored because there's nothing to do...
 
 
So... because YOU see it as redundant and boring, that must mean that the rest of the community should go ahead and follow suit?
 
No, wait, let me ask a different question:  Exactly how does our way of playing affect your way of playing?  Are we interfering with your fun in game?  I don't see how that could be possible... we're all tied up in missions.

I don't care what you do just don't sit here crying about the game not giving you ways to make money, making it seems like a mistake that Rockstar CLEARLY doesn't want people exploiting is a legit way to make money. You guys have no respect I swear. They patched it and you still keep doing it as if it is ok to do. If you want to sit on a mission and farm it for hours be my guest, it doesn't stop me from enjoying the game. I'm just saying that there are other ways to make money instead of this exploit.

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#39

Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:39 PM

They need to fix the money system. It's been a week and you already see people with 400k apartments and 1m cars. Its way too easy getting money to the point that it's pointless to play legit.

 

Any suggestions?

 

When GTA:V was released, people beat the main story that same day. People got 100% before a week. People got $2 bil from playing efficiently. I doubt Rockstar developed the game for 5 years just to be beaten in less than a week.


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#40

Posted 08 October 2013 - 05:52 PM

I don't care if people want to waste their time, I'm just going to be slightly upset when the farmers doing something that R* obviously has tried to stop are going to f*ck up the entire stock market once it opens and they dump their money into it. They are basically making money pointless, something R* tried really hard to make a main function in this game. 

 

But, go ahead and keep it up. That's cool. Got to have something to brag to your friends about and it's definitely not that amazing touchdown catch you got that won the game for your team. 


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#41

Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:04 PM

I wanna see how much are we getting with the heists DLC. I hope they pay well, cockstar!


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#42

Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:06 PM

I don't care if people want to waste their time, I'm just going to be slightly upset when the farmers doing something that R* obviously has tried to stop are going to f*ck up the entire stock market once it opens and they dump their money into it. They are basically making money pointless, something R* tried really hard to make a main function in this game. 

 

But, go ahead and keep it up. That's cool. Got to have something to brag to your friends about and it's definitely not that amazing touchdown catch you got that won the game for your team. 

 

Right.  Because when Cash Cards are enabled again, that won't have any impact on the economy at all.  The market downfall will be entirely the fault of grinders.  I'm picking up what you're putting down though.


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#43

Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:12 PM

 

 

 

 

 

People are just bitter.
 
They don't have the patience to grind a mission (or do any kind of heavy mission play) so they get all bent out of shape when other players do it.
 
"Wah, I don't want to do missions but other people are and they're ranking up and getting rich, it's not fair."
 
Funny how they are conspicuously silent about players who keep doing different missions over and over again to rank up and get rich.

Lol bitter about what? People who have no lives playing to get rich without enjoying the game? Playing the same mission over and over again for hours to make money instead of trying different missions.

Personally, I enjoy the racing on this game. Whats the point of playing a game if you're just going to make it boring?
 
 
What makes you think we aren't enjoying the game?
The fact that you're making it redundant. Youll make a ridiculous amount of money, buy everything then get bored because there's nothing to do...
 
 
So... because YOU see it as redundant and boring, that must mean that the rest of the community should go ahead and follow suit?
 
No, wait, let me ask a different question:  Exactly how does our way of playing affect your way of playing?  Are we interfering with your fun in game?  I don't see how that could be possible... we're all tied up in missions.

I don't care what you do just don't sit here crying about the game not giving you ways to make money, making it seems like a mistake that Rockstar CLEARLY doesn't want people exploiting is a legit way to make money. You guys have no respect I swear. They patched it and you still keep doing it as if it is ok to do. If you want to sit on a mission and farm it for hours be my guest, it doesn't stop me from enjoying the game. I'm just saying that there are other ways to make money instead of this exploit.

 

 

I haven't seen a single farmer/grinder complain about not having ways to make money.  We're pretty much all over the whole making money thing.


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#44

Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:16 PM

How can option 2 be correct when R* tried to patch out replaying missions and the new way of replaying duct is clearly a glitch? 


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#45

Posted 08 October 2013 - 06:31 PM

They need to fix the money system. It's been a week and you already see people with 400k apartments and 1m cars. Its way too easy getting money to the point that it's pointless to play legit.

 

 

This is where Rockstar f*cked up. There aren't any fun, legit ways to earn money. Most missions are very straight forward. Go to point A, kill some people and then go to point B. Who the hell wants keep doing the same type of missions over and over for only 2-5 thousand, when you can the exact same thing for 9,000?

 

If Rockstar fixed the stocked market, unlocked the casino, had heist ready to go from launch etc etc..then we probably would not have people farming so much. Hell last night, I played the same mission about 4-5 times over. (only beat it twice) not for the 9,000 payout. But because it is the only mission I've done so far with a little bit of variety. I forget the name of the mission, but you have to collect some drugs, then take out some gang members and their cars.

 

In my honest opinion, Rockstar withheld the casino, heist etc in hopes people would buy their stupid money packs instead of grinding the same boring pointless types of missions. Someone found a glitch or whatever you want to call it and Rockstar quickly tried to fix it. I mean it took them what, 3 days to try and patch that sh*t?


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#46

Posted 08 October 2013 - 07:11 PM

Have they lowered this? Me and a buddy have just had this mission and it paid out 3k?

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#47

Posted 08 October 2013 - 07:41 PM


They need to fix the money system. It's been a week and you already see people with 400k apartments and 1m cars. Its way too easy getting money to the point that it's pointless to play legit.

 
 
This is where Rockstar f*cked up. There aren't any fun, legit ways to earn money. Most missions are very straight forward. Go to point A, kill some people and then go to point B. Who the hell wants keep doing the same type of missions over and over for only 2-5 thousand, when you can the exact same thing for 9,000?
 
If Rockstar fixed the stocked market, unlocked the casino, had heist ready to go from launch etc etc..then we probably would not have people farming so much. Hell last night, I played the same mission about 4-5 times over. (only beat it twice) not for the 9,000 payout. But because it is the only mission I've done so far with a little bit of variety. I forget the name of the mission, but you have to collect some drugs, then take out some gang members and their cars.
 
In my honest opinion, Rockstar withheld the casino, heist etc in hopes people would buy their stupid money packs instead of grinding the same boring pointless types of missions. Someone found a glitch or whatever you want to call it and Rockstar quickly tried to fix it. I mean it took them what, 3 days to try and patch that sh*t?


This dude clearly didn't read the posts in this thread . Dude just told u once u get past lvl 40 u get missions that play 25k+.

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#48

Posted 08 October 2013 - 07:49 PM

Breaking News: They just reduced the payout to 3k


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#49

Posted 08 October 2013 - 08:12 PM

I don't like the options given.

 

The mission is clearly broken but how the hell else are people going to progress in the game.


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#50

Posted 08 October 2013 - 08:36 PM

If there's one thing I learned from online gaming, it's that as soon as there's a virtual currency involved, people will always find the most time-efficient way to earn it and then farm the crap out of it.
If you remove Violent Duct, some other mission will take its place.

 

If anything, the Violent Duct farming is a testament to how imbalanced the game is at the moment. I mean, I've had missions where I had to follow sports cars halfway around San Andreas for a good 20 minutes and they earned me 2000 $ and then there's missions that reward you 5000$+ just for doing a shootout with 10 or less people, 


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#51

Posted 08 October 2013 - 08:37 PM

should be removed, I hate it. ive earned probably 450k so far just by doing races and different missions. I hate seeing people earn more than that in half the time. where's the fun in replaying the same sh*t?


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#52

Posted 08 October 2013 - 08:41 PM

It's kind of an exploit, but it's fcking necessary since making big money is pritty much impossible -.- Ofcourse you would be done very soon with this game if it wasn't hard, but right now it's just way to 'difficult' to make some money.

Especially if you die, you will most likely loose same amount of money you made in the previous job -.-


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#53

Posted 08 October 2013 - 11:26 PM

It's not necessary... I've earned about 700k doing races, missions and survivals. Races are the way to go, they are fun and take skill to do, making you feel like you actually earned the money. Farming missions is just stupid IMO... Why try to break a game that could possibly give you a lot of hours of game play? 
 

What I like about these people is that they tend to suck, they get to level 50 and don't know how to play or do missions because they farmed the hell out of one mission :)


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#54

Posted 09 October 2013 - 11:00 PM

Cause ur character gets deleted. After that level of frustration , f*ck your races, f*ck your "different missions " , and f*ck your lousy skill. Most importantly f*ck R* U fire breathing counts . Farm ppl farm. Gta online is the biggest failure in online gaming history .

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#55

Posted 09 October 2013 - 11:00 PM

Don't really care.


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Posted 09 October 2013 - 11:03 PM Edited by AfterDeath, 09 October 2013 - 11:03 PM.

 

But, go ahead and keep it up. That's cool. Got to have something to brag to your friends about and it's definitely not that amazing touchdown catch you got that won the game for your team. 

But this ain't such a good idea bro.

Yeah? They said catching that pass at my high school championship football game was a "bad idea" cause I broke my leg in thirteen places. But... I scored a touchdown and won the game. The world is built out of bad ideas, my friend.


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#57

Posted 09 October 2013 - 11:03 PM

I don't farm hardcore, but I did do it occasionally.

 

I liked the experience, easy to find the level, and teams of people working together to make things run as smooth as silk. It felt so good when you got it running at speed and the nice rewards at the end. Was great fun. But I've done it enough now.

 

So now it's reduced to 3K, everyone moves to another mission, and I get to repeat that same fun experience with the same rewards.

So nerfing the occasional mission to bring it back in line with the others - actually fine by me in the end - but if I go home tonight and find they've completely cut replay of missions I will be a bit sad because I did enjoy that.


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#58

Posted 09 October 2013 - 11:05 PM

i think its messed up that people are more concerned that someone is making "money" in a game than the actual playability of it..


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#59

Posted 09 October 2013 - 11:05 PM

I'd say Violent Duct just needs to have it's pay brought into scale with the difficulty of the job. I'd say 5k would be pretty reasonable and is in line with other missions in the same class.

 

Some of the other, far more difficult and lengthy missions need to have their pay increased to make doing them more appealing. That's the way to go about this, not disabling replays or just nerfing one mission.

This^

 

and if you don't agree, you're an idiot.


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#60

Posted 09 October 2013 - 11:25 PM

i think its messed up that people are more concerned that someone is making "money" in a game than the actual playability of it..


Thank u !!! Stfu up about this farming cry baby bullsh*t. There are ppl who can't even log on , and haven't played the game since online release. There are ppl who lost lvl 40 characters . And u guys are bitching about farmers? By far the most self-centered sh*t I have ever seen .this whole thread needs to be removed . And the ones saying u hate farmers, I hope your character gets deleted.




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