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05-BROCKY-05
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Posted 03 October 2013 - 06:19 AM

Believe me when i say i understand the complaints, but there are soo many threads regarding them, this you must acknowledge. My argument is always clear and that's to give them a chance to fix the issues. Yes if they fix one issue it sometimes causes another issue, that's why they need our input. But if i was developing a game and read some of the garbage on these forums I'd wonder why i even bother, a lot of whats written is not constructive criticism its just flaming.

 

It's like teaching someone to play the guitar, then after two weeks they can't play like a pro so you shoot them in the face and start with a new person, everything takes time.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 06:24 AM Edited by Vorpax, 03 October 2013 - 06:25 AM.

Believe me when i say i understand the complaints, but there are soo many threads regarding them, this you must acknowledge. My argument is always clear and that's to give them a chance to fix the issues. Yes if they fix one issue it sometimes causes another issue, that's why they need our input. But if i was developing a game and read some of the garbage on these forums I'd wonder why i even bother, a lot of whats written is not constructive criticism its just flaming.

 

It's like teaching someone to play the guitar, then after two weeks they can't play like a pro so you shoot them in the face and start with a new person, everything takes time.

 

Thats all because if you're a pro on such a high level you should not allow yourself SO many mistakes! Its not that you made a mistake and you need time to fix it, its the case, when you should just go out and admit that you've f*ked up! Just how many times do you think we fans should forgive them? how many times we should allow them to f*ck the game up, just so they could fix it later?...yeah...right...maybe people finally ran out of the things, that is called "patience" and are not willing to give chances anymore...we pay money and we want 100% finished product in return, so you go figure why we're so angry...doesn't require rocket science knowledge...


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 06:25 AM

I don't understand your whining, if u have problems with the greatest game ever, simply don't play it, go play whatever sh*tty game u have. We don't need to hear ur crying. So shut up and leave.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 06:26 AM

The thing about the MP glitches, uh it's basically a beta, they need to fix everything so MP is technically an open beta so stop being a whiny little brat. You don't like the game? Cool, I don't care. We like the game, so don't come on OUR forums and say OUR game sucks, mmk? We don't go on your game forums and go "OH MP IS SOOO GLITCHY, THE DEVS ONLY WANT YO MONEY, AND THE STORY IS SHORT, CHARS ARENT ENGAGING EUGHFEJFNJSNDJJE" The story was short but the activities you could do in the game, the Easter egg hunting, car customization, assassination, tennis, trialathons, golf, scuba diving, treasure hunting, yoga, shark hunting, side quests, character customizations, store robberies, helping citizens at need, talking to citizens, skydiving, military base raiding, airport plane theft, parachuting, biking, jet skiing, plane flying, replay able missions, and pretty much EVERYTHING in this game makes up for it. The thing about only wanting our money? Eh, DLCs are DLCs. You don't NEED to buy it, and it's not like R* is the only company who does it. Like for Christs sake have you seen the DLCS for BF3, I mean I LOVE BF but those DLCs dude! Way too much! You're the kind of low life people in the gaming community that makes me sick. You made an account just to rain on our parade, you selfish jerk. You're worse than COD 12 year old punks.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 06:28 AM

I don't understand your whining, if u have problems with the greatest game ever, simply don't play it, go play whatever sh*tty game u have. We don't need to hear ur crying. So shut up and leave.

 

Thanks for defying the meaning of "greatest game ever" for me, so my mind is finally eased now trying to figure, which game i can call "greatest game ever"...on a contrary people care for this game, thats why they hate to be disappointed and not because they aren't true GTA fans...


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 06:34 AM Edited by 05-BROCKY-05, 03 October 2013 - 06:36 AM.

We have the right to want 100% finished product but its not realistic, no game has ever been 100% at release im sorry, you can argue it all you like but its never happened and probably never will happen, not with online being used with games these days, there will always be updates needed to fix issues.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 06:37 AM

Everyone is gonna have their opinions and everyone is different and are gonna act differently to this as well. Some are mad and returning or re-selling the game and some of us are patient and actually understand and are just waiting for it to be fixed. In my opinion they don't want our money they just want to make a great game for all of us gamers to enjoy , they listen to us and are currently doing their best to fix the problems. They warned us there might be problems with the online on launch yet people are still angry with Rockstar Games because of the launch problems they were warned may exist. If you noticed they already have partially fixed the online on PS3 and I assume probably Xbox 360 as well. As the in-game purchases, most of the online games are gonna have DLCs and such that you purchase to add more to your game so why are you surprised Rockstar Games have done this as well? They don't really want you to purchase in-game cash and rather you earn it but for those are impatience and want to buy Houses,Customize there cars and such they added the option there for them.

 

http://support.rocks...icles/200426246

 

Quote from Rockstar Games :

 

The game and its economy have been designed and balanced for the vast majority of players who will not buy extra cash. There is no in-game paywall and nothing that should disrupt the balance of the game. You don’t have to spend real money to attain the cars, guns, clothes, flash and style of a high-roller in Los Santos, but can if you wish to get them a little quicker.

 

As seen here on the article on their website, http://www.rockstarg...uto-online.html


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#188

Posted 03 October 2013 - 06:39 AM

I really can't wait until all these whiney, spoiled little brats f*ck off, and this forum can finally get back to normal.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 09:08 AM

I really can't wait until all these whiney, spoiled little brats f*ck off, and this forum can finally get back to normal.


November 5th 2013. Something tells me that things will start to get back to normal right around then....

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 09:10 AM

 

I really can't wait until all these whiney, spoiled little brats f*ck off, and this forum can finally get back to normal.


November 5th 2013. Something tells me that things will start to get back to normal right around then....

 

 

I don't think it's going to take Rockstar a month to fix this. Maybe a week or less give or take.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 11:17 AM

 

No our whole debate is you for some reason thinking GTA IV was harder to develop than GTA 3. Whatever we think it is our opinions I just happen to think your opinion is retarded / illogical as I am sure you think the same of my opinion.

 

 

Oh, I thought you wanted me to go away. Ok, at no point I said that GTAIV(specifically) was HARDER to develop than GTA3(specifically). All I said, that modern games take more time to be developed, I don't know why you argue, because I am basing this on fact, not opinion.
Here is my fact:
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GTA2 released 1999, GTA3 2001 = 2 years(give or take few months) development time, by what you pointed out a smaller less experienced studio
GTA:SA released 2004, GTAIV 2008 = 4 years(give or take few months) development time, by a much more experience and much much bigger studio.
GTA5 took 4 years(again give or take) development time, by even more experience people than they were at the time of IV, and even still bigger studio, whilst gtaiv created all new engine in this 4 year development period, GTAV did not have a new engine, but it sill took a long time, because V is much more detailed and of higher quality than IV(not saying that it's better or worse).

There is your proof, that modern games even by bigger more experienced people takes more time to develop. And that's all I was saying, that modern games take more time, and that yearly release of modern games are at a cost of quality, which rockstar upkeeps it's quality and stops itself from milking it's golden series, that was my point. Now even if from these facts with evidence, you cannot find reason, then please don't reply. Search your feelings luke, you know it to be true. 

Anyway this time for real, have a good night/day good, if a little stubb

You are using time scales between games to dictate the difficulty that game was to make?

 

1. GTA San Andreas was followed by 2 more GTA games (the stories and they were full games check out their mission count it rivals V's)

2. Duke Nukem....... Tis all I have to say.

3. Rly? If Modern games are so hard to develop why do cod games , assassins creed and saints row games get made every year now? THe time it takes to make a game does not dictate quality OR difficulty.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 11:21 AM Edited by Thebull94, 03 October 2013 - 11:21 AM.

Also can you fanboys stop defending rockstar at every waking moment? You know the online is f*cked up when a BETA (Battlefield 4) runs better than your DELAYED BY 2 WEEKS, TOOK 5 YEARS TO MAKE FINAL PRODUCT (GTAO). Then they feed you a BS excuse like

 

"Oh yea we sold 1 billion dollars worth of copies in 3 days but we didnt think many people would play the online hurr durr"

 

Then what happens? The fanboys eat that sh*t up. WHy? 

 

1. They have no backbone

2. Feel obligated to defend Rockstar at every waking moment

3. Would believe Rockstar even if Rockstar told them they totally did not pay reviewers to rate GTA IV 10's.... Oh wait... Umm lets use another example because they already believe that. They would believe Rockstar if ummmm. R* said santa was real? Yea lets go with that one.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 11:22 AM

Are we talking about Rockstar or Microsoft here? lol


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 11:23 AM

So if a person automatically has an opinion, it makes them a troll?
 

God, what is wrong with the world these days.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 11:24 AM

We can defend them because we like rockstar and love the work they put into the game. I don't care how long it takes to fix it is still by far the best free roam multiplayer I have ever played and will only get better. That is how.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 11:32 AM

So if a person automatically has an opinion, it makes them a troll?
 

God, what is wrong with the world these days.

Bro this is how it works on these forums.

 

 

*Guy makes a thread calling GTA V game of the generation*

 

The 'fans' 100% agree him and show him love.

 

The people who disagree state there reasons why they disagree and then the fans unite and tear that 'evil evil f*cker who doesnt agree!' a new ass hole and say

 

"Its the OP's opinion, imo GTA V is the best game ever made but its my opinion respect it and respect the OP's"

 

Then a new thread is made by someone who has an issue with the psychic cops and those very fans post comments like

 

"f*ck off troll"

"Go play saints row"

"Where are all these trolls coming from?"

 

Without even reading the OP's post.

 

So yea basically this is how it works round these forums.

 

  • If your opinion is positive towards R* you will get praised and make cyber friends (yay huddle!)
  • If your opinion even has the slightest indication that its a negative (non functioning online or psychic f*cking cops) then you get flamed and your opinion goes out the window and apparently you are just a troll who plays Saints Row!

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 11:42 AM

I wasn't talking about that nor was I acting like a fanboy I was only questioning the OP's statement 'If someone calls this game a masterpiece he/she is a troll'. if he disagrees with someone else's opinion, that does not make them a troll, unless the opinion is really stupid.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 11:47 AM

I wasn't talking about that nor was I acting like a fanboy I was only questioning the OP's statement 'If someone calls this game a masterpiece he/she is a troll'. if he disagrees with someone else's opinion, that does not make them a troll, unless the opinion is really stupid.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 01:17 PM Edited by Die2moshgta, 03 October 2013 - 01:48 PM.

OK here we go....
Yes I know it says I just joined, but I'm sure I'm going to get people calling me a troll...don't know the logic behind this but whatever.
I've been surfing this site off and on since GTA 4 and decided it time to become active.

Now on to the topic at hand..."how can anyone defend rockstar?". Well as with anything it can go both ways. I am a long time fan of the GTA series and somewhat of rockstar. Been playing GTA since GTA 2 so I've invested sometime. Now with this new GTA I feel a little unresolved... Don't get me wrong the game is good but not as good as I expected.
Playing GTA 5 is fun but it just lacks something, that immersive spark that keeps drawing me back for more after I beat it. Now with this online stuff I feel they spent a little to much time on online and not enough on sp. I can't fully review online e yet cause I haven't played more than 30mins then can't get back on but from what I experience, read, and watched it looks a little of a letdown. I'm sure once its up and running I'll put some hours into it but honestly I really don't feel like I'm missing much.
And then there the launch.... I mean come on... Even the most diehard fanboys can admit that was a clusterfu$k. It was poorly executed and I expect more for a AAA developer.

I see a lot of people on here get flak for voicing there opinion on this site and ya I get it its the internet, "I can say whatever I want and don't have to worry about getting my ass beat" but this why forums exist. They were created for a community to discuss facts and opinions. How did we all loose sight of that?

In the end GTA5 is a good game that people like me feel strongly about. I know most disagree with me but I still. say GTA 4 was the best one.

Maybe I'm older and jaded but shouldn't we hold a big developer accountable? We should voice our opinions. Is that this the whole DRM thing got changed?

Just my 2cents. I know some don't care but that's what a forum is for right?

Oh and all those English professors on this site, I'm sure there are a bunch of errors but did this on my tablet and for some reason it don't like this site, lol.

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Posted 03 October 2013 - 09:24 PM

Obviously R* are in waaay over their heads. But I will always support a company who're at least trying to push gaming to the next level. Rather than support these EA's clones who're taking a sh*t on your front lawn every year and charging your dumb %$$ full price. Those are the companies you need to BASH. This Company is 'at least' trying to force those thieves to stop hitting the yearly copy/paste button.

 

So either wait, or move on. cuz it's gonna be while.


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 09:26 PM

hopefully once queer of duty comes out all these stupid teens will be gone from gta forever


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Posted 03 October 2013 - 09:35 PM Edited by Masterfocker, 03 October 2013 - 09:46 PM.

Also can you fanboys stop defending rockstar at every waking moment? You know the online is f*cked up when a BETA (Battlefield 4) runs better than your DELAYED BY 2 WEEKS, TOOK 5 YEARS TO MAKE FINAL PRODUCT (GTAO). Then they feed you a BS excuse like

 

"Oh yea we sold 1 billion dollars worth of copies in 3 days but we didnt think many people would play the online hurr durr"

 

Then what happens? The fanboys eat that sh*t up. WHy? 

 

1. They have no backbone

2. Feel obligated to defend Rockstar at every waking moment

3. Would believe Rockstar even if Rockstar told them they totally did not pay reviewers to rate GTA IV 10's.... Oh wait... Umm lets use another example because they already believe that. They would believe Rockstar if ummmm. R* said santa was real? Yea lets go with that one.

You're comparing Battlefield 4, a non-open world shooter, to GTA 5, a sandbox? Lol, sure, why not? Also, GTA 5 is WAY more popular than BF4, and, just like the rest of the idiots, you think the delay of 2 weeeks means everything's gonna be perfect. Way to be smart

 

Edit: And just let me leave this here...

 

Firstly, you have people saying sh*t like "Oh, they had a billion dollars and 2 weeks to make it perfect! They f*cked up hurr durr!"

 

^^Those are the kind of people who have no idea what they're talking about. My friends said the same thing, and I told them they were idiots, and to stop thinking so simple.

 

FIrstly, R* doesn't just instantly get that money. No, they get it over time.

 

Secondly, people's expectations were WAY too high. When you expect a game, that sold $1 bil in 3 days, to run perfectly on the first day, you're gonna get punched in the crotch with reality. That's exactly what happened, and people cry about it.

 

Thirdly, it's not all about R* "Preparing". They did prepare, and they did expect A LOT of people. But, you can never prepare for something like this unless you have a beta. Unless you have an extreme surplus of servers, millions upon millions of people trying to connect at the same time is gonna make the servers overload, and they're gonna crash. There's no other way to look at it. When you have millions of people connecting to something at once, it's gonna have a hard time. It's the same premise as a busy grocery store. Even if you keep adding cashiers, the lines are still gonna be big, and it's still gonna be slow.

 

And now let's look at the business standpoint of it. R* could not have avoided this problem unless they bought a massive amount of servers, way more than they would ever need. However, this is business retardation. What R* did, is have an estimate (And I can assure you, it was a big estimate, the people trying to connect was just bigger), and get servers for those. Then, when everything gets going, and people are connecting, they record ALL the data. This'll continue to past the weekend. Once they see the highest amount, they'll get enough servers for that amount, or a little below, to be safe. Then everyone will be happy.

 

Last, but oh, certainly not least, is the fact that R*, SPECIFICALLY, said that they would have troubles, and to expect it, and to be patient. And what does everyone do? Flip the f*ck out and threaten to sell their game because of inevitable server troubles that happens with every big AAA game.

 

So, once again, I reaffirm that all people bitching like the OP, are retarded, and I advise them to sell their game, so they don't ruin it with their stupidity.

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