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Posted 27 September 2013 - 03:30 AM

So I just finished collecting all 10 tracts the game tells you about and I wrote out the tract from the website it gives you upon completion. I think it may be a clue but I'll need some help in figuring out the metaphors that are within. Here is the tract in full.

 

Epsilon Tract

Chapter 1, Verse 1 – Omega

From omega to Alpha and back again, and from Z to A. We as a people have consistently got things backwards. I know that now. I am not alive. I am dead. I am not rich, I am poor. I am not from Earth at all.

Contrary to what you know, life is not life at all. It is all an illusion. You are being controlled by lots of powerful forces you do not understand – like gravity. Just as an apple a sometimes flies up from a tree and becomes a great Eagle, so what seems like greed can in its own way be the most selfless act of all.

The act of loving only one, the god head, is the act of loving all, the people as god head. That is clear to those who seek, and seek we must and pay we must. Seeking without paying is not living, it is living on the cheap. Epsilonism is an extensive religion. Only for those with the wisdom to afford it. Wisdom is our most valuable commodity and that is why we pay highly for it.

 

Chapter 1, Verse 2

To be an Epsilonist is to be rich in powerful tools. Tools are held in the belt by some, and in the mind by others. The most powerful tool of all is the tool of manifest generosity towards ideas, towards upward. That is, sometimes a peach tree issues forth fire and a great dove becomes born. That dove is money and the money should be spend by all to achieve manifest generosity. as each paradigm has shown those who understand. And manifest generosity is the god head and being the god head is the movement towards truth form. Truth form is important but it is difficult for the wrong to understand, so ask yourself, am I the right?

And I prove that through my adherence to manifest generosity and by the Eagle and the dove and the peach tree and upward gravity and by understanding, above all, this manifest truth form? Yea, to some this will seem hard to understand but it will be revealed, and to some it will see hard to understand and it will not be revealed because they did not seek truly because they were the wrong form of bird or topiary. If you seek wisdom, you will pay for it and seeking and paying are the same thing as is understanding, if you want it to be.

 

Chapter 1, Verse 3

Upwards flows the truth form, and so upward flows manifest generosity, and this, is how we become rich. That is, to be generous to those who know the truth form, who truly understand it, and to be so upward in our manifest generosity, yes, or yea as Kraff sometimes says meaning much the same, those or those who are truly blessed, who are the right and are known as not just of Kraff, but by Kraff and true to that which kraff understood.  So let yourself know those upwards of you, and be known by them. The is Kifflom and there is Krant, and both be praised through manifest generosity.

 

Chapter 2, Verse 1 – Psi

If you understand this, you know all things, and if you know all things you are of Kraff, just as Kraff took the form of an Eagle or a peach tree, as the literature has shown and as the tract now makes manifest, likens its generosity, which should be upwards and manifest and like it in truth form, which should be understood.

If you are confused you are wrong, as Kraff made clear, confusion was not merely confusion, but proof of all that is wrong, and if you believe, then nothing is greater than believing completely and believing completely makes you into the peach tree that flows upwards or the apple tree that becomes a dove or the other way around.

Chapter 2 Verse 2

 

Nothing shows truth form more than upwards generosity and nothing shows wrongness more than doubt. No one is weaker than the questioner. Not one person. Not even a really weak person, without any strength at all. Or a lettuce. Yes, I want to be clear, as clear as the lake which truth lives, which is another metaphor I will come back to, as Kraff came back for us across Paradigms in this 9th Paradigm, year 157. Hear them speak, oh lovers of arboreal wisdom! Hold on to the peach tree and the apple tree and give all that you have in faith and watch fruits flow upward to a bountiful harvest. He who hungers while others are rich shall someday be rich himself

 

Chapter 2, Verse 3

The lake in which truth lives is very clean and clear, but not as clean or clear as it is clean and clear that those who have been shown our truth form and have questioned, and have doubted and have not understood are themselves, not in fact weak, but the Unsaveables. By even thinking a question, you are likening yourself to the volcano that sucks lava into itself and explodes down, causing the entire paradigm to implode and a mighty race of super beings to be cast adrift into space, as happened once and must never happen again.

 

Chapter 2, Verse 4

Cast off the cane. Not only does questioning kill you, it also kills everyone you love. It means you do not love them and you wish them to die. That is clear now. To doubt is to wish death on everyone, that that is all the proof you need that the world, the apple tree, the peach tree, the dove, the Eagle are good things, and of Kraff, but there are also many bad things. And those bad things are doubt. And also upwards generosity , is the most bounteous thing of all. And bounteousness is a mirror. A mirror in a lake where truth lives. Drink from this lake and also water from the peach tree but do not quench the fire that brings the dove, and do not pick the apple that may one day become and Eagle, a great Eagle who feeds from the lake.

 

 

Chapter 3, Verse 1 – Chi

Give and you shall receive. As someone else said, but whomever said that was themselves a brilliant man and a friend of Cris, as all brilliant men are, and a fantastic Epsilonist like all the greater thinkers and philosophers and celebrities. The literature has been clear on that, and now the tract makes clear. Indeed, there is a lake where truth lives and in this lake an egg lived and out of that egg came forth a whole new world. And that world was this world and this metaphor now ends, and a new one begins. The new metaphor is the tract and the tract is truth and truth form and a few ideas laid down and many left out.

 

Chapter 3, Verse 2

No seed is wasted, for seeds of man or tree are a lie. The apple tree and peach tree lie together in the same orchard, yet there are many trees, just as a man of Epslion must lie with nine new partners a week lest he wither at the vine.

 

Chapter 3, Verse 3

Land left unplowed goes fallow, for in all things there is an agrarian analogy, for the world was created before television. If a woman does not lie with five upward men of Epsilon a day on the seventh month, the harvest will surely be meager.

 

Chapter 3, Verse 4

To understand completely is to be complete. That is the central maxim of our knowledge. And knowledge requires no faith. We are not a religion. We are a science and a way of understanding everything. And to know everything is to know that money is your greatest transience and all money should not tie you in a place but free you to give upwards and to not doubt that doing so is the most complete thing you can do and that those who doubt you are death dealers and haters of the Eagle and the dove and the peach tree and the lake of truth and they wish you dead. Cast them from your lives, and cast a line into the lake, for it will feed you.

 

Chapter 3, Verse 5

Everything was will be and has a cycle, just as a fool who saves his fruit sees it rot, a wise man sends his fruit towards the upwards. You have it in you to be happy, but you are not happy because you are surrounded by men who want you dead because they doubt and in doubting they prove they are Unsaveable, so if you cannot kill them, let them go, and move towards the blue light abd the lake and the apple and the other metaphors and away from the empty place in which objection and death unite as one.

 

Chapter 3, Verse 6

Doubters shall be spaded under and given a chance to serve as a garden for descendants of Kraff. I shall not weep. For tears of salt poison the garden and this is our time of joy.

 

Chapter 3, Verse 7

Negativity is a double and a single. It is always negative. The point of life is smiling. And nothing makes you smile more than knowing the truth form and the truth form is 157 years old and the great battle between Kraff and the Unsaveables that exsists in this paradigm, the 9th paradigm and all proceeding paradigms back to the 4th paradigm. This is a battle we must win, just like the end of a movie, including those made by and starring many top celebrities who are themselves Epsilonists, just like most top philosophers and thinkers are. This is a battle we can win

 

Chapter 4, Verse 1 – Upsilon

Upward generosity and acknowledgement of the truth is to us as truth is to the lake and gravity is to the apple tree and fire is to water and doubt is to the Unsaveable. Previous ideas have been spoken by all of the great men of carbon who were often secret Epsilonists, although unrevealed until this moment. None are dead. They sit with Cris in physical or cerebral form and the space travel is complete, both across paradigms and with your Earth time, year 157. This is the tract. It was always written. It was never written.

 

Chapter 4, Verse 2

We are all from the same tree. Yet no one shall believe that a winged lizard could fly or a man with hair the color of a rose does not bring doom with lies. This is a true as the evil of doubt.

 

Chapter 4, Verse 3

Just as man and woman make water differently, they shall not do it in the marital bed or on one another unless they that are upwards with the hierarchy demands it, and even then not that often. Hierarchy is all and upwards generosity is all. Look upwards and see the stars. This is a kingdom, the kingdom of Kraff, ruled by Cris, and there are servants and disciples and the unsaveables who become fertilizer. That is a new metaphor that will carry into the next paradigm, wherever it shall lie, even onto bumper stickers. For that which has higher meaning must be told in all manner possible, by oracles, by brother to brother, and condensed into phrases that others need understand while trapped in traffic and seeking escape.

 

Chapter 4, Verse 4

Those who doubt do not get to lie with new partners, instead they will be cooked In the death they bring upon themselves. Indeed the worst the imagine through doubt is what they will get. Like being raped by a bull-form or a being the last station in a nasty prison train, or watching everyone they know have a joyful orgy and they are not invited. That is what doubters will get. Nothing but bad things, including getting raped by animals and not going to orgies. There should be no need to repeat that a third time. The peach tree talks and the apple tree talks, you hear them and you know. You do not hear them and you know you are a doubter and an unsaveable.

 

Chapter 4, Verse 5

 Your earth partner is to be cherished and therefore shared with the utmost generosity upwards like all things. And what is upwards generosity? That we shall come to, once we have once more focused upon the work of the unsaveables, and that work is questioning and doubting. It is not the scientific way to doubt. Let that be made clear. It is the way of the thorn bush or the cactus. They do not speak. Not even a little.

 

Chapter 4, Verse 6

The cactus only grows from sand. Sand makes and earth partner, for from sand comes glass that forms the pitcher of truth from the lake that holds a cutting from the peach tree. And once the earth becomes like the cactus they must be cast out and a newer younger earth partner shall take their place.

 

Chapter 5, Verse 1 – Tau

Only the apple tree and the peach tree speak. These are the trees we came from and they are the same tree. Peaches are in fact apples and they are the tree that was in the lake of knowledge that was in the egg that was near the Eagle I mentioned above.

 

Chapter 5, Verse 2

The mark of Kraff adorns many who are blessed. Some descendants of Kraff have a mark of birth that adorns the elbow, or buttocks, nut he who has the stain of wine on his head or face – they drink with Kraff in the 4th paradigm.

 

Chapter 5, Verse 3

Do not forget about the dove. The dove is the dove of love and of truth that is an old metaphor and one that unites all knowledge under Epsilonism, and like all who pursue truth and love he does not just by manifesting upward generosity but also by killing unsaveables in the great fight between Kraff and his enemies that has gone on for paradigms. In the 4th paradigm it was energy. In the fifth paradigm it was fire. In the 6th paradigm it was the love of ignorance and the Eagle. In the 7th it was the great dispute in which unsaveables learnt to take the form of conflicted reason. In the 8th, it was amnesia. In this 9th it is within the being form – that is red, and he with red and of red in the hair form is not of Kraff and he is the embodiment of that which is Unsaveable. All these paradigms will be revealed to you through upwards generosity. Their meaning shall be made clear as your role in the great battles will be made cleat. Nothing is truer to the dove of love than killing unsaveables.

 

Chapter 4, Verse 4

And what is this thing of which you speak? What is this upwards generosity? It is the most precious thing, the giving to those who do not need, so cannot be challenged for greed, who have so much they do not need anymore and therefore can receive your gift kindly and with the truth form and with understanding that is everything. It is the gift towards Cris, to Cris, or any other senior epsilonists who are his form in your life as all senior Epsilonists are the same spirit and mind form in this paradigm, as the Eagle is the peach tree and other metaphors also become blurred. It is by asking Cris to receive that we ourselves get the most, that is the clearest thing.

 

Chapter 5, Verse 5

And if not Cris then the program itself for the program knows truth and by paying for truth we guarantee its veracity. Just like the top celebrities and great thinkers who are open Epsilonists and many other whom you do not know are Epsilonists but happily triple tithe their upward generosity as they owe everything to the program and acknowledge this. Triple tithing makes a truth form more true.

 

Chapter 5, Verse 6

Nothing is more true than giving all that you have including that which you do not yet have, like loans or mortgages or indeed that which has been taken by Unsaveables and must be taken from them. The world of this paradigm belongs to us, and so return it to us. By giving it to Cris, he will save it for all of us. By knowing us, he knows all. By saving us, he saves all who can be saved. Here ends the first part of the tract of the 9th paradigm. Kifflom.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 03:46 AM

Totally interested in this wanna find out what happens.
As you i have collected 10 out of the supposedly 15.
I've checked all lakes except alamo sea as it has been covered many times.(But something could have spawned after we collected the last tract)
So i'm still reading and encrypting the tract in different ways i'll let you know if i find anything!


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 03:53 AM

Copied from my reply on another thread:

Check out the Los Santos emblem on the Blue Print map, there's an Epsilon logo and a Big Foot. There's an apple and either an orange or some other fruit on the Blaine County logo.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 03:54 AM Edited by Larose-, 27 September 2013 - 03:58 AM.

The main things we should be focusing on are:

a) Finding the peach/apple tree or finding out what it is a metaphor or symbol for.

b) exploring all islands that have only 1 tree on them and surrounding area Air/Land/Sea

 

c) The lighthouse in the epsilon wallpapers is important (I will explain why later in this post) We need to find all the lighthouses in the map and explore the surroundings and do a little experiment someone in the Jetpack thread just turned me on to.

 

d) Locate the Eagle

 

e) Locate as many Epsilon related symbols and buildings as we can

 

If we can do this we should be well on the way to figuring this whole fiasco out. The lighthouses however MAY be the most important thing this is why:
www.youtube.com/embed/QWtLLUqCeVQ

The lighthouse moves only when he is aiming at that portion of it with a firearm. We need too see if the other lighthouses behave the same way and we can move forward from there.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:01 AM Edited by MojoW, 27 September 2013 - 04:02 AM.

I'm at the lighthouse close to the solitary tree right now waiting till it's dark.

Edit: Also i think the eagle is metaforic because it's with an capitol the whole time but i'm still watching out for a real one!


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:02 AM Edited by ONZO, 27 September 2013 - 04:11 AM.

This might be kind of far fetched but what if there's an easter egg mystery for each character? I know that you can't play as all 3 at the end but what if Franklin is needed to solve anything alien related, Michael is needed to solve anything Epsilon related, and Trevor is needed to solve anything "8" or Altruist related?

 

I really hope that isn't the case.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:04 AM Edited by dizturbd, 27 September 2013 - 04:05 AM.

The first verses of each chapter are all labeled with a letter of the Greek Alphabet (Omega, Psi, Chi, Upsilon, Tau).  Those are in reverse order, so they aren't meant to be read from Chapter 5-1 if that makes sense.

 

There are two things that stand out to me:

 

1 - There are a lot of references to "paying for the wisdom".  I think we are supposed to donate a large sum of money to Epsilon.  Especially since the option to donate still exists after completing the mission.  I donated over $100,000 and nothing happened so far.

 

2 - "Here ends the first part of the tract of the 9th paradigm."  Maybe this entire text is one of the 5 missing tracts and the others will reveal themselves after this one is solved and found.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:05 AM Edited by ONZO, 27 September 2013 - 04:10 AM.

To add to my post about Ursula/the light house, I was at 100% and driving on the road north of the Alamo see (during the day, as Franklin, and in the Space Docker).

 

 

Haha I think this kinda disproves my idea of there being a mystery for each character.

 

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:06 AM

The first verses of each chapter are all labeled with a letter of the Greek Alphabet (Omega, Psi, Chi, Upsilon, Tau).  Those are in reverse order, so they aren't meant to be read from Chapter 5-1 if that makes sense.

 

There are two things that stand out to me:

 

1 - There are a lot of references to "paying for the wisdom".  I think we are supposed to donate a large sum of money to Epsilon.  Especially since the option to donate still exists after completing the mission.  I donated over $100,000 and nothing happened so far.

 

2 - "Here ends the first part of the tract of the 9th paradigm."  Maybe this entire text is one of the 5 missing tracts and the others will reveal themselves after this one is solved and found.

 

Bring $500,000


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:07 AM

I'm at the lighthouse close to the solitary tree right now waiting till it's dark.

Edit: Also i think the eagle is metaforic because it's with an capitol the whole time but i'm still watching out for a real one!

No there is a statue of an eagle somewhere in game I dont know exactly where but I have heard several people mention it already. I will keep my eyes peeled for it. For some reason I think its by the IAA/FIB buildings.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:09 AM

yep, the eagle is by the IAA building


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:10 AM

yep, the eagle is by the IAA building

Thanks for confirming that.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:22 AM

5 chapters, 5 missing tracts... It sounds very convoluted and cryptic, either this is some elaborate clue or a wild goose chase


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:22 AM

 

The first verses of each chapter are all labeled with a letter of the Greek Alphabet (Omega, Psi, Chi, Upsilon, Tau).  Those are in reverse order, so they aren't meant to be read from Chapter 5-1 if that makes sense.

 

There are two things that stand out to me:

 

1 - There are a lot of references to "paying for the wisdom".  I think we are supposed to donate a large sum of money to Epsilon.  Especially since the option to donate still exists after completing the mission.  I donated over $100,000 and nothing happened so far.

 

2 - "Here ends the first part of the tract of the 9th paradigm."  Maybe this entire text is one of the 5 missing tracts and the others will reveal themselves after this one is solved and found.

 

Bring $500,000

 

 

But, donating wouldn't be bringing it.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:31 AM

Chapter 5, Verse 1 – Tau

Only the apple tree and the peach tree speak. These are the trees we came from and they are the same tree. Peaches are in fact apples and they are the tree that was in the lake of knowledge that was in the egg that was near the Eagle I mentioned above.

 

near the IAA building is the Maze bank, it has a weird sculpture that looks like an egg, with what looks like cracks or tunnels going through it


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:32 AM

 

Chapter 5, Verse 1 – Tau

Only the apple tree and the peach tree speak. These are the trees we came from and they are the same tree. Peaches are in fact apples and they are the tree that was in the lake of knowledge that was in the egg that was near the Eagle I mentioned above.

 

near the IAA building is the Maze bank, it has a weird sculpture that looks like an egg, with what looks like cracks or tunnels going through it

 

Can you get us a screen please? :]


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:34 AM

One of the restaurants also has a chicken sitting on an egg with cracks through it. And there is also a giant golden chicken sitting on a giant egg


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:36 AM Edited by TotalNo0b, 27 September 2013 - 04:43 AM.

I could have a go at getting a screen shot of both


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:47 AM

egg;  http://socialclub.ro...NdkKyhYg_mKac5g

 

 

eagle; http://socialclub.ro...xxUGoSf5WFqagtA


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 04:51 AM

Thanks man, Those both look like they might point to things if viewed from the air. I am starting to believe that this is a Da Vinci Code-esque riddle/map contained in the tract

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:04 AM

either that, or a parody of that to keep us playing :p 


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:08 AM Edited by TotalNo0b, 27 September 2013 - 05:12 AM.

this is just a theory, but I think the 'egg' aligns with the land act reservoir, also the penris building where it meets the road is triangle shaped and it also points at the reervoir... I've scoured that area in the sub but couldn't find anything. If any place would be a volcanic crater, i think it would be that place. I haven't tried searching there with Micheal though... maybe there is a reflection of something there?

 

 

Chapter 2, Verse 3

The lake in which truth lives is very clean and clear, but not as clean or clear as it is clean and clear that those who have been shown our truth form and have questioned, and have doubted and have not understood are themselves, not in fact weak, but the Unsaveables. By even thinking a question, you are likening yourself to the volcano that sucks lava into itself and explodes down, causing the entire paradigm to implode and a mighty race of super beings to be cast adrift into space, as happened once and must never happen again.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:11 AM

I'm off for the night I'll be back on tomorrow and will actually get in-game and help confirm/debunk some of the stuff that gets posted between now and then.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:31 AM

this is just a theory, but I think the 'egg' aligns with the land act reservoir, also the penris building where it meets the road is triangle shaped and it also points at the reervoir... I've scoured that area in the sub but couldn't find anything. If any place would be a volcanic crater, i think it would be that place. I haven't tried searching there with Micheal though... maybe there is a reflection of something there?

 

 

Chapter 2, Verse 3

The lake in which truth lives is very clean and clear, but not as clean or clear as it is clean and clear that those who have been shown our truth form and have questioned, and have doubted and have not understood are themselves, not in fact weak, but the Unsaveables. By even thinking a question, you are likening yourself to the volcano that sucks lava into itself and explodes down, causing the entire paradigm to implode and a mighty race of super beings to be cast adrift into space, as happened once and must never happen again.

 

I remember going to the Altruist site as Trevor and his IP was logged as an Unsaveable. Maybe the Unsaveable's are people in Blaine County?


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:39 AM

I haven't read the whole thing yet but one thing that stuck out to me was in the beginning, it says, "From omega to Alpha and back again, and from Z to A. We as a people have consistently got things backwards. I know that now."

 

I listed the letters of each chapter in order that they're written, Omega, Psi, Chi, Upsilon, and Tau.

 

If you look at the this: http://imgur.com/9p5bggR

 

The only thing missing is Phi.

 

I don't know if the Tracts themselves are supposed to be read in reverse order or not but I noticed that the Phi symbol looks a lot like the suns with lines through them around the map.

 

I don't know if that helps out at all but I thought I should share.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:46 AM

I haven't read the whole thing yet but one thing that stuck out to me was in the beginning, it says, "From omega to Alpha and back again, and from Z to A. We as a people have consistently got things backwards. I know that now."

 

I listed the letters of each chapter in order that they're written, Omega, Psi, Chi, Upsilon, and Tau.

 

If you look at the this: http://imgur.com/9p5bggR

 

The only thing missing is Phi.

 

I don't know if the Tracts themselves are supposed to be read in reverse order or not but I noticed that the Phi symbol looks a lot like the suns with lines through them around the map.

 

I don't know if that helps out at all but I thought I should share.

Good catch!


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:51 AM

OK i got it. The Eagle is at Pillbox hill, the egg too (Maze bank), from top view, we see an cracked egg.. THIS IS THE KEY GUYS I'M 100% SURE !!


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 05:51 AM

"Do not forget about the dove. The dove is the dove of love and of truth that is an old metaphor and one that unites all knowledge under Epsilonism, and like all who pursue truth and love he does not just by manifesting upward generosity but also by killing unsaveables in the great fight between Kraff and his enemies that has gone on for paradigms. In the 4th paradigm it was energy. In the fifth paradigm it was fire. In the 6th paradigm it was the love of ignorance and the Eagle. In the 7th it was the great dispute in which unsaveables learnt to take the form of conflicted reason. In the 8th, it was amnesia. In this 9th it is within the being form – that is red, and he with red and of red in the hair form is not of Kraff and he is the embodiment of that which is Unsaveable. All these paradigms will be revealed to you through upwards generosity. Their meaning shall be made clear as your role in the great battles will be made cleat. Nothing is truer to the dove of love than killing unsaveables."

 

This verse in particular seems very ominous. Does anyone know what they are meaning when they refer to paradigms? Also, what would the dove be a metaphor for? Is it possible that the Eagle refers to the IAA or possibly even the government as a whole?


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 06:14 AM

Someone mentioned this is in another thread but the Blaine County seal on the blueprint map has a bunch of interesting stuff in it.

 

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 06:16 AM

Just thought I'd also point out that the IAA has an Eagle for their logo. Pretty sure the Eagle is referring to the IAA.

"just as Kraff took the form of an Eagle" - Could mean that Epsilon and the IAA are one and the same?

 

"Only the apple tree and the peach tree speak. These are the trees we came from and they are the same tree. Peaches are in fact apples and they are the tree that was in the lake of knowledge that was in the egg that was near the Eagle I mentioned above." - This line comes off as more direct directions than the other verses. We now know the Eagle is the IAA. Now we need to find the apple and the peach tree which are the same tree. And according to the line the lake was IN the egg. That is some crazy metaphors right there.





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