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Posted 05 November 2013 - 11:24 AM

You Brits are worse than I thought. I am quite serious, I have never seen a country where the average person (not the 19 year old pretending to be a Socialist or the wealthy left-wingers) is so determined to spit on his nation and his people.

 

I have nothing to sell here, this is an internet forum and we are not going to change each other's views or influence the world - so I must simply confess that I find your situation tragic and I feel empathy for you, my lost European brothers. I have no doubt that if I had met your fathers, we would have shared a drink together. Unfortunately, whilst my family will continue to be proud, robust Serbs and Europeans, your daughters will open their legs for all of Somalia, your sons will pray towards Mecca and your wives will have your balls so tightly held that you will not even remember that you have them.

 

Maybe the problem of country is that you lost your culture so you have nothing to be proud of. Where I am from, we still have a term for each individual family member (uncle on mother's side, cousin of brother-in-law etc.), we make our brandy each year, we slaughter the pig in the ancestral village once a year, we sing songs of our history and our grandfathers teach us the great poetry when we are young. This is culture (and many more examples) - it is something you will never know in your degraded nation. All you know as culture is masturbating to GTA. 


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Posted 05 November 2013 - 12:02 PM Edited by sivispacem, 05 November 2013 - 12:06 PM.

Delightful, another xenophobic, jingoistic diatribe that entirely fails to address so single point that's been made. I can see that debate etiquette, or for that matter constructing logical arguments at all, is not your strong point.

Firstly, exactly what knowledge and understanding of British society do you possess to make the outlandish and to be honest rather bemusing claims you've made here? I mean, you're a "proud Serb", you've got no clear qualification to speak on the subject at all. So, care to explain this given that you're incapable of identifying the differences between nationality and ethnicity?

Racial slurs disguised as an appeal to emotion might work on the naive or cretinous knuckle-draggers im sure you spend much of your time discussing these issues with but they're totally hollow to anyone with even the vaguest understanding of social ethics. Your rallying cry, far from instilling patriotic and chauvinistic devotion on my part, instead inspires pity that someone from a nation with such a rich history of immigration, integration and foreign involvement would show such ignorant rage and misplaced zeal about a concept so intrinsic to human history. You forget that you yourself, far from being the "true ethnic Serb" you claim to be, are probably generally a combination of Roman and Turkic Ottoman. Who are you that you that does not know his history?

Maybe the problem isn't me. Maybe you're too blinded by the sectarianism and racial conflict in the recent history of your nation to realise that your entire cultural identity is inherited from the nations and empires of old, and as such you are only as cultured as your nation's historic exposure to other societies and cultures.

Your language is inherited. Your culture is inherited. Your ethnicity is inherited. I find it amazing you are so blind as not to see this.
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Posted 06 November 2013 - 03:47 AM

You Brits are worse than I thought. I am quite serious, I have never seen a country where the average person (not the 19 year old pretending to be a Socialist or the wealthy left-wingers) is so determined to spit on his nation and his people.

 

I have nothing to sell here, this is an internet forum and we are not going to change each other's views or influence the world - so I must simply confess that I find your situation tragic and I feel empathy for you, my lost European brothers. I have no doubt that if I had met your fathers, we would have shared a drink together. Unfortunately, whilst my family will continue to be proud, robust Serbs and Europeans, your daughters will open their legs for all of Somalia, your sons will pray towards Mecca and your wives will have your balls so tightly held that you will not even remember that you have them.

 

Maybe the problem of country is that you lost your culture so you have nothing to be proud of. Where I am from, we still have a term for each individual family member (uncle on mother's side, cousin of brother-in-law etc.), we make our brandy each year, we slaughter the pig in the ancestral village once a year, we sing songs of our history and our grandfathers teach us the great poetry when we are young. This is culture (and many more examples) - it is something you will never know in your degraded nation. All you know as culture is masturbating to GTA. 

This post is amazing.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:04 AM

I would have no issues with any future daughters of mine dating Somalians, because I'm not a racist moron.  Equally, I find it unlikely that any future sons would pray to Mecca due to there being a trend of decreasing religiosity amongst young people in the UK and most of the western world. Now way would I allow myself to be whipped by any future partner. 

 

Making brandy and slaughtering pigs are hardly something unique to Serbia, or highbrow culture, are they?


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:29 AM Edited by Melchior, 07 November 2013 - 11:30 AM.

Making brandy and slaughtering pigs are hardly something unique to Serbia, or highbrow culture, are they?

Assuming he's from a rural community: it's funny that despite his claims of Britain losing it's culture or whatever, if you go to a Scottish village you can find an analogue to most of the examples he gives of how the Serbians haven't lost their culture. People in Scottish villages pass down poems (how else do people think the Scots language has stayed alive?), sing Auld Lang Syne on New Years and brew whiskey... dunno about the pig slaughtering but I wouldn't be surprised.


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 12:26 PM

My only concern with immigration is that we have millions of unemployed people.  If that means we have a deficit of jobs then surely immigrants simply increase the number of unemployed.  Like others have said the vast majority of immigrants come from within the EU so short of leaving there's nothing we can do to stop it.

 

My other concern is that immigrants coming over to the UK prepared to work for minimum wages don't exactly help the cause for better wages.

 

No doubt some will point to studies showing that immigration doesn't affect unemployment levels but surely it's simple maths.


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Posted 06 January 2014 - 01:06 PM

Why is it simple maths? The assumption that you appear to be making is twofold- one, that there are domestic workers capable of filling the roles that immigrants are taking, and two that immigration removes these jobs without creating further ones. Both are fundamentally false.

In reference to the first, the majority of skilled immigration from overseas doesn't displace domestic workers. Generally the free movement of labour follows the voids in capacity so these roles are filled by foreign labour only when there's a deficit in domestic labour. It may be somewhat surprising but recruiting Eastern Europeans is actually in the medium term more expensive than recruiting domestic labour because of the additional administrative hoops businesses have to jump through for even EU foreign workers. They also have a far higher instance of skilled self-employment which means there's no displacement effect in these instances.

Also, every independent review into immigration and its relationship with employment has demonstrated that immigration is a net job creator. That is, that more jobs are created by foreign migration to the UK than are filled by those migrants arriving. There's no quantifiable way that this could be simultaneously true with the allegation that immigrants steal jobs, and only one of those two tenets has any evidence backing it.
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Posted 18 February 2014 - 10:25 PM

Debating racists is like Galileo trying to convince people at his time earth is not flat

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 10:58 AM

I forgot about this thread after I posted in it. I don't think I should write anything else because I am xenophobic (If that was a real word and not one made up by the zionist government which keeps my people down).

 

Let me end with this.

"The dominant race in society cannot be victims of racism" - That says it all, it just means the other coloured people can do what they want towards the white people, it doesn't matter. This type of thing is what I am getting sick of. I'd rather see 1'000 non-europeans die than 1 European and it's the truth.


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Posted 19 February 2014 - 05:20 PM

At least you have the common courtesy to tell everyone that your opinions are invalid before you post them, by admitting your xenophobic. Even though that doesn't really detract from the fact your a bigot, it does let everyone know that thru shouldn't listen to anything you say on the subject as it's liable to be wrong.
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Posted 19 February 2014 - 05:59 PM

I forgot about this thread after I posted in it. I don't think I should write anything else because I am xenophobic (If that was a real word and not one made up by the zionist government which keeps my people down).

 

Let me end with this.

"The dominant race in society cannot be victims of racism" - That says it all, it just means the other coloured people can do what they want towards the white people, it doesn't matter. This type of thing is what I am getting sick of. I'd rather see 1'000 non-europeans die than 1 European and it's the truth.

Lol bro this isn't the 1800s. As stupid as you might be, nobody calls anybody 'coloured' anymore.

 

At least you have the common courtesy to tell everyone that your opinions are invalid before you post them, by admitting your xenophobic. Even though that doesn't really detract from the fact your a bigot, it does let everyone know that thru shouldn't listen to anything you say on the subject as it's liable to be wrong.

Can I ask you a serious question? (Well, I'm going to anyway, but common courtesy and all that)

 

Why do you bother to humour people as stupid as the guy I quoted and just dumb people on this forum in general with, you know, facts and stuff, when these people have shown a pathological hatred for logic? I know why I keep arguing with people online; it's entertaining. You however, don't seem to get any joy from this. I think you suffer from old teacher syndrome as in you are morally compelled to teach people information despite them being completely unwilling to accept it.

 

This isn't a criticism per se, it's just you will probably have more fun in life if you accept that some people are just a lost cause and no amount of data will change what they think. Only undermining their intelligence and sense of self worth might do anything and besides, it's much more fun to do.

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Posted 19 February 2014 - 06:30 PM

Oh, I never expect anyone to respond amicably, nor do I expect anyone to come around to the ideas I present. I know they're not likely to see reason. I do enjoy the debate, even if it's usually very one-sided. The more public humiliation of the stupid or ignorant the better in my view- makes it much less likely for people to express stupid ideas.

Oh, and it's fun.
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Posted 20 February 2014 - 02:42 AM

Fair enough then.Maybe your reasons aren't so different from mine after all.

 

Anyway yeah, UKIP Britian, what would it look like? A big round doughnut floating in space. I.E. absurd and it will never happen.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 08:34 AM

I was going to go for a gargantuan, fetid, stinking turd, floating in a shallow puddle of AIDS-infected blood and bile, but hey ho.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 10:26 AM

LOL!.

Lets break that down with great amusement as I have been reading this thread. Those posting in a topic that do not have a scooby when it comes to being or my point not being British and totally not understanding the subject matter.

The daily mail have more chance getting into power then UKIP. Either would send this country back 60 years as we are such a small country that really does rely on everyone else to keep us clothed, fed and warm. Our gas and power mostly comes from Europe and North America.

We have almost sent all our skilled jobs overseas. We are a nation of supermarkets (low earner) and bankers that seem to be not accountable for their actions, bad government policies without any thought for the consequences for those unintentionally harmed (The Flooding). We let our Media and P.M's persecute the Sick and Disabled but I do admit we don't seen to do much for those who play the system.

We are not seen as a world power anymore (maybe a joke to some countries) even the USA has shunned us for not having a large enough military force. Now if UKIP do magically get in with the information I've read on page 1 (what a load of hogwash) - I'd feel safer elsewhere than living in the UK because there would be unrest and troubles.

You can't turn back the clock on who is here or what has happened, we do not have anyone elected smart enough to solve those issues I've written above.

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:47 PM Edited by Nale Dixon, 20 February 2014 - 01:47 PM.

I was going to go for a gargantuan, fetid, stinking turd, floating in a shallow puddle of AIDS-infected blood and bile, but hey ho.

I just don't have the creative flair that you do, I suppose.

 

There is the sadist in me however that does hope that these people do get into power, just to see how quickly the infrastructure of Britain collapses. I'd give it a week before people start looking at the winter of discontent as a comparative utopia. But alas, most people in the west aren't willing to bring a country to ruin just to prove a point. Shame.

 

Honestly, when it comes to crunch time I expect most voters to stick with the major parties. UKIP might eat into The Conservatives, but I'd say not enough to be blamed for them losing the election. (I fully expect the conservatives to be ousted come the next election)


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 03:00 PM

I don't think being 'xenophobic' makes my opinions invalid at all. I am just clear to the fact that everybody can do what they want against white people and stamp out our culture but the moment a white person retaliates it's heinous and they are branded a 'racist'.

 

If foreigners want to come to our shores they should assimilate and adapt to our way of life, we should not bend our rules and regulations or even our traditions to suit these people. I'm annoyed at this.

 

The fact of the matter is, not everybody of a different race is bad and I am not ignorant to this. I however do not believe we should be opening our borders to rapists, criminals and other scum which the third world slums want to pour into our land. I am not against immigration and multi culturalism but I am against anti-white racism and bending our traditions and culture to suit people who would not do the same for us in their land.

 

What happens when a church is built in a muslim land? It gets torn down and the people who built it get lynched. What happens when a mosque gets built in England? Nothing. How is this fair?

I agree that they should be allowed to follow their own customs and traditions whilst they are in our land, however, so long as their customs and traditions do not affect or contradict that of our own.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 03:11 PM Edited by Nale Dixon, 20 February 2014 - 03:12 PM.

 

I don't think being 'xenophobic' makes my opinions invalid at all. I am just clear to the fact that everybody can do what they want against white people and stamp out our culture but the moment a white person retaliates it's heinous and they are branded a 'racist'.

 

Firstly, the majority of immigrants being complained about in the UK are WHITE. Secondly there's no such thing as 'our culture' and if there was, it's so immane that it couldn't possibly be wiped out by any other culture. Quite frankly, 'white' culture has been crushing other cultures for hundreds of years. If anything is happening, it's a sense of retaliation to this. THIRDLY being xenophobic completely wipes out any validity because you're basing your opinions from belief rather than anything factual.

 

 


If foreigners want to come to our shores they should assimilate and adapt to our way of life, we should not bend our rules and regulations or even our traditions to suit these people. I'm annoyed at this.

 

I'm annoyed at how stupid you are, but I don't try and affect policy to wipe you out. I really should.

 

  The fact of the matter is, not everybody of a different race is bad and I am not ignorant to this. I however do not believe we should be opening our borders to rapists, criminals and other scum which the third world slums want to pour into our land. I am not against immigration and multi culturalism but I am against anti-white racism and bending our traditions and culture to suit people who would not do the same for us in their land.

 

There's no such thing as anti-white racism. Also our borders aren't open to 'rapists, criminals and other scum which the third world slums want to pour into our land'

  What happens when a church is built in a muslim land? It gets torn down and the people who built it get lynched. What happens when a mosque gets built in England? Nothing. How is this fair?

 

Thank God we don't live in the middle ages then? I mean what kind of a horsesh*t remark is this anyway? This doesn't mean a God damn thing. Are you really so dumb that you can't understand why this is not even a valid point?

 

  

 

 

I agree that they should be allowed to follow their own customs and traditions whilst they are in our land, however, so long as their customs and traditions do not affect or contradict that of our own.

Well hang on, you just said that 'they should assimilate and adapt to our way of life' so which is it? 

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 04:54 PM

I don't think being 'xenophobic' makes my opinions invalid at all. I am just clear to the fact that everybody can do what they want against white people and stamp out our culture but the moment a white person retaliates it's heinous and they are branded a 'racist'.

Dale responded to the majority of your reply but I just wanted to pick up on this. Racism and discrimination on the grounds of race and ethnicity against whites in general in the Western world is basically non-existent. The reason it gets no time of day in discussions on the subject of racism is purely because valid incidents are so statistically insignificant they could be dismissed as a rounding error.

Racism against foreign nationals, whilst certainly less prevalent these days than in the past, is still basically endemic in Western society. Attempts to accuse foreigners or non-white nationals of "racism" and "attacks on our cultural heritage" fall down on two counts. One, as I've already outlined, the fact they're statistically insignificant. But also the fact that "culture" isn't a defined phenomenon and is entirely subjective. There's no empirical or factual basis for such a claim; it's simply a reactionary outburst devoid of any meaning.

And before you start on a discussion of Shari'a law in the West, which is invariably where these discussions end up, may I remind you that Shari'a law isn't a legal system in and of itself in most of the Muslim world but merely a system of individualist underlying religious guidance, less intrusive in the context of Europe certainly than the impact of Catholicism.

Answer me this- why do the violent actions of third parties in foreign countries have any bearing on whether ours should be accepting of others? Surely the appealing aspect of the Western world is the presence of an environment where freedom of expression and religion are permitted, so why do you suggest we should be more like corrupt, despotic failed states in our attitude to freedom? Totally counterintuitive.
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Posted 21 February 2014 - 08:02 PM Edited by Gasmasks, 21 February 2014 - 08:09 PM.

Firstly I wasn't about to divulge into arguments based on Sharia Law. 

Now to answer your question. Why shouldn't they? Why should we tolerate scum entering our borders and raping school children? I read the papers today, more Romanians and Kurds raping school girls. If it isn't pakistani's it's Romanians. Why should we have to put up with other nations emptying their prisons into England? I don't understand how my argument is 'Stupid' as Nale Dixon puts it. Nale Dixon, you had to take it down a notch by insulting me, you arrogant self righteous c*nt. First of all you multi cultural cock sucker, I don't disagree with immigrantion as a whole. I disagree with letting scum into our borders to claim benefits and commit crime. This has been my argument all along in case you haven't noticed, maybe if you pulled your head from your own arse and looked around you, it might help you to realise what is going on around here.

 

'No such thing as anti-white racism' - This just said it all for me. You zionist pig. I'm tired of arguing against people who've got their lips so tightly wrapped around the cocks of third world rapist nations. Clearly you can't see that for the greater good we should be opting out of the EU and should be shutting our borders.

My people are being harmed because these third world rapists are coming from overseas and setting up home in my mother land so they can slit her throat and bleed her dry.

 

Some Pakistani's come here to reap the rewards of benefits. Thing is wrong, they should be here to work. Not take free money from the tax payer.

 

Oh and let's not forget 'Two wrongs do not make a right' - Regardless of what the United Kingdom (Or what's soon to be left of it) has done in the past, it does not mean they have the right to do it back to us and they are invading us and taking over our institutions while everybody sits back and has a jolly good chuckle at the expense of the working class white man. I'm tired of seeing this in my country on a daily basis. I do not want to see white people being suppressed in favour of every other race in the world, it makes me sick that we are treated as second class citizens in our own land.

 

Nale Dixon, you piece of sh*t c*nt. There is such thing as Anti white racism, it happens all the time you useless clump of sh*t. Open your eyes. You're argument is very invalid because you're a zionist wanker who uses words with the intention to distract and divert from the fact that you're actually a thick c*nt who believes his opinion is set in stone and anybody who goes against it is wrong.

 

See we can all behave like pricks. You fat f*ck.

 

(All the insults in this post were aimed at Nale Dixon, because he started throwing them around and I felt the need to meet this anti-white racist on his own level.)

 

I hate anti-white racists, they are a pox on this earth. Political correctness, multiculturalism and various other 'Diversity and Equality' laws are all based on trying to breed out white people from existence and leave our land to the third world scum which pours in.

 

Another side note: I am fully aware that not all immigrants are like how I have stated. Also I would like to note that if our nations did proper checks on people and stopped pakistani/romanian and for that matter any criminals coming to England, then I would actually not have a problem. So long as you don't interfere with my traditions and culture and we live alongside each other peacefully. I am capable of peace and living with your culture and traditions, so long as I am not force fed them.

 

 

The edits are because I got your name wrong Nale Dixon. Not that it is important what a piece of sh*t's name is, usually they aren't labelled, you c*nt.

 

Assimilation and adaptation to our way of life does not affect their own culture and traditions. Maybe if you had a firmer grasp and a better understanding, you would actually know this. I didn't read most of your post because it was littered with petty insults and most of it was just a childish rant aimed at me for having different views to the zionist government I am currently stuck in and didn't vote for.

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 11:30 PM

Y'know, I'm getting tired of people who are willing to tolerate every single rape culture on earth even when they're flooding into Western nations and destroying them from within... It's people like you who could do something and get Europe back on its feet, but you choose to allow it to descend into chaos.

 

Right in my neighbor, Sweden's flooding with immigrants from third world countries, and it's done nothing good for the country. Unemployment rate is sky high amongst them and the country that used to be one of the best places on earth to live at, is now known as the rape capital of Europe. Cars are burning, people are rioting over the smallest things. All thanks to classless politicians promoting the idea of multiculturalism.

 

Good thing a new direction is already starting to form. The recent vote in Switzerland is only one out of many pieces of evidence showing that people are no longer going to take all the crap that is being served to them on a platter. I suspect that this century could be a bloody one as Europeans claim back the Muslim-infested Sharia zones from their own cities and makes it again clear that uncivilized folk have no place in societies like ours.

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 11:41 PM

Now to answer your question. Why shouldn't they? Why should we tolerate scum entering our borders and raping school children? I read the papers today, more Romanians and Kurds raping school girls. If it isn't pakistani's it's Romanians.

Appeal to emotion. Show me that ethnic minorities are statistically more likely to commit rapes and sexual assaults than white British citizens of similar socio-economic status. Oh, wait, you can't because the inverse is actually true.
 

Why should we have to put up with other nations emptying their prisons into England?

Why should I have to put up with your hearsay and appeals to ignorance in a section of the forum that's supposed to be for intelligent debate?
 

I don't understand how my argument is 'Stupid' as Nale Dixon puts it.

Because it lacks anything resembling veracity and empiricism, plus has no actual basis in reality?
 

First of all you multi cultural cock sucker

Ad hominem argument, irrelevant and only serves to devalue what little point (none, actually) that you're making.
 

I don't disagree with immigrantion as a whole. I disagree with letting scum into our borders to claim benefits and commit crime.

Which we don't, given that foreign nationals are statistically less likely to be involved in the overwhelming majority of categories of crime than domestic citizens. Also worth pointing out that most of the "Pakistanis" and "Kurd" you've complained about above are naturalised British citizens, so your argument is self-defeating.
 

You zionist pig.

Please don't use words you clearly don't understand. It makes you look like an utter f*ckwit.
 

I'm tired of arguing against people who've got their lips so tightly wrapped around the cocks of third world rapist nations.

And I'm tired of trying to explain to knuckle-dragging, more-teeth-than-brain-cells xenophobes and deluded, ignorant and poorly educated bigots that their views have no basis in reality, empiricism or human decency, but hey, we don't all get what we want do we?
 

Clearly you can't see that for the greater good we should be opting out of the EU and should be shutting our borders.

Oh really? What political or socio-economic educational grounding do you have to make such a bold, sweeping and entirely unsupported statement?
 

My people

I'm sorry, who the f*ck are "your people"? Who on earth are you claiming to speak for?
 

Nale Dixon, you piece of sh*t c*nt.
See we can all behave like pricks. You fat f*ck.

Take a day off
Actually, make that two.



Come back when you've obtained something vaguely resembling an educated and informed view on absolutely f*cking anything.
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Posted 22 February 2014 - 12:23 AM Edited by elanman, 22 February 2014 - 12:31 AM.

I don't think being 'xenophobic' makes my opinions invalid at all. I am just clear to the fact that everybody can do what they want against white people and stamp out our culture but the moment a white person retaliates it's heinous and they are branded a 'racist'.

 

Define "white person".

 

Are you referring to someone of Anglo Saxon descent? A Romanian? Someone of Celtic descent? An Ashenkazi Jew?

 

All members of these ethnic groups are "white", but judging by your manner you'd only be remotely comfortable dealing with someone of the first group (I can't imagine your views would get an iota of agreement in Wales so I'll exclude the Celtic group too). You speak of a loss of culture, but "British culture" has always been enriched by foreign influence. The first somewhat organised people to settle the British isles were the Celts. The Romans invaded later and conquered swathes of (what is now known as) England, dramatically changing the culture there. Subsequent invasions by the Anglo Saxons, Viking raids, the Norman invasion and other similar incursions completely changed the culture, architecture and language of the people who've inhabited these isles.

 

Fish and chips? The style of fried fish we all enjoy here was brought here by (Sephardi) Jewish refugees:

 

http://news.bbc.co.u...ine/8419026.stm

 

 

With that said, there are certainly aspects of British culture which one could reasonably say are quintessentially "British" (mince pies, Lancashire hotpot, Welsh cawl, St David's day, St George's day...)--the point I'm trying to make is that the United Kingdom owes a lot its culture to contributions made by numerous ethnic groups. To say that British culture is under threat of being "stamped out" is maddening. If you want to sing traditional songs on St George's day, have some drinks with your mates and raise your flag with pride, then you may do so with gusto without fear of reprehension. If you honestly fear that our culture and traditions are under threat, go to Cardiff or Swansea whenever Wales is playing in the rugby--if that doesn't allay your (albeit irrational) fear, then nothing will.

 

 

 

If there's one thing I agree with in your post it's that the working man is (and always has been) put down, but this is largely the fault of those who run the country, not immigrants. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to find people who embody the working spirit for which our nation is known as fiercely as many immigrants here do. Sure, there are immigrants who commit crimes, but statistically a crime is no more likely to be committed by a typical immigrant than by a British national. In fact, to suggest, as you have, that Romanians and Pakistanis are more likely to commit rape offenses is abhorrently racist (and unfounded). If you're so vehemently opposed to racism against your own people, you really shouldn't demean people of other races if you want anyone to take your views seriously. Honestly, I find it baffling that someone who appreciates foreign film (as you do, given your avatar) could also be so hideously racist.

 

 

If anything, British culture is more under threat from British nationals who are ignorant to their own history than from immigrants.

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 02:09 AM Edited by Nale Dixon, 23 February 2014 - 02:16 AM.

Sivis did a pretty good job of slapping you down, but this is too hilarious to pass up, so here we go:



 Now to answer your question. Why shouldn't they? Why should we tolerate scum entering our borders and raping school children? I read the papers today, more Romanians and Kurds raping school girls. If it isn't pakistani's it's Romanians. Why should we have to put up with other nations emptying their prisons into England? 

 

The part I highlighted, this is where you went wrong mate. Anyway none of this happens, you're talking garbage. Also I find it amusing that every single Nationalist British always manages to bork the English language. There's no need for the apostrophe in Pakistanis and Pakistanis should be capitalised.

 

I don't understand how my argument is 'Stupid' as Nale Dixon puts it. Nale Dixon, you had to take it down a notch by insulting me, you arrogant self righteous c*nt. First of all you multi cultural cock sucker, I don't disagree with immigrantion as a whole. I disagree with letting scum into our borders to claim benefits and commit crime. This has been my argument all along in case you haven't noticed, maybe if you pulled your head from your own arse and looked around you, it might help you to realise what is going on around here.

 

Right, well this is so full of crap that I can't really respond. I mean firstly in just about every country in the world, Immigrants commit crime on a lower level than citizenry. I know it's a numbers thing, but I may as well use loaded arguments, not that you'd grasp them anyway. You are speaking of a minutia of the immigrant population here and your suggested solution is to kill the flea on your head with a sledgehammer.

 

In any case I'm fully aware what is going on around here. We are in a cultural and economic recession.Gullible people are looking for a scapegoat and in Britain, that is brown people and Eastern Europeans (who may as well be brown, I suppose it would be easier for people like you to spot them) Apparently it's Jews too, I honestly didn't think that had pervaded this country in the same way it had the US, given our lack of strategic interest in Israel. 

 

'No such thing as anti-white racism' - This just said it all for me. You zionist pig. I'm tired of arguing against people who've got their lips so tightly wrapped around the cocks of third world rapist nations. Clearly you can't see that for the greater good we should be opting out of the EU and should be shutting our borders.

 

OH PLEASE SHOW BE THE WAYS BROTHER. OPEN MY EYES. How is opting out of the EU for the greater good? Because all I can see from opting out is a severe shafting in trade, relations and general standing as a western country. Maybe I'm wrong though.

 

My people are being harmed because these third world rapists are coming from overseas and setting up home in my mother land so they can slit her throat and bleed her dry.

 

It's ironic that you use the same dramatic rhetoric used by most right wing Islamic fanatics, stuff that sounds like a 9 year old's first attempt at poetry.

Some Pakistani's come here to reap the rewards of benefits. Thing is wrong, they should be here to work. Not take free money from the tax payer.

 

Again, no apostrophe sonny. I'm sure with all the social security benefits these Pakistanis steal, they probably can afford a higher standard of English literature education than you. In any case, the Pakistani community has been very successful in Britain, with high contributions to high and small level business.

 

 

Oh and let's not forget 'Two wrongs do not make a right' - Regardless of what the United Kingdom (Or what's soon to be left of it) has done in the past, it does not mean they have the right to do it back to us and they are invading us and taking over our institutions while everybody sits back and has a jolly good chuckle at the expense of the working class white man. I'm tired of seeing this in my country on a daily basis. I do not want to see white people being suppressed in favour of every other race in the world, it makes me sick that we are treated as second class citizens in our own land.

 

And I'm tired of ignorant little middle class brats like you telling me, the working class white man who the enemy is. You stick to your Daily Mail and your BMW in the home counties and I'll stick to figuring out the issues of the working class white man for myself, thanks. Anyway white people are not suppressed. We've been through this. Even if this wasn't complete sh*t, it would still take more than poor immigrants from Pakistan to destroy the fabric of a society that is 96% white.

 


Nale Dixon, you piece of sh*t c*nt. There is such thing as Anti white racism, it happens all the time you useless clump of sh*t. Open your eyes. You're argument is very invalid because you're a zionist wanker who uses words with the intention to distract and divert from the fact that you're actually a thick c*nt who believes his opinion is set in stone and anybody who goes against it is wrong.

 

See we can all behave like pricks. You fat f*ck.

 

(All the insults in this post were aimed at Nale Dixon, because he started throwing them around and I felt the need to meet this anti-white racist on his own level.)

 

 

My opinions on the state of Israel and my weight notwithstanding, I really think you have no clue as to what sh*t you're spouting here. Do you know anything about Israel?

 

[I hate anti-white racists, they are a pox on this earth. Political correctness, multiculturalism and various other 'Diversity and Equality' laws are all based on trying to breed out white people from existence and leave our land to the third world scum which pours in.]

^supposed to be a quote, only noticed I left this out after the fact and adding the quote code is impossible, given the quote limit

 

 

Go back to stormfront you gorilla. Equality laws and civil rights have benefited the white working class man that you so root for much more than the pakistanis that are such a scourge on our society.

 

Another side note: I am fully aware that not all immigrants are like how I have stated. Also I would like to note that if our nations did proper checks on people and stopped pakistani/romanian and for that matter any criminals coming to England, then I would actually not have a problem. So long as you don't interfere with my traditions and culture and we live alongside each other peacefully. I am capable of peace and living with your culture and traditions, so long as I am not force fed them.

 

Britain, despite what the sh*t you're peddled by Rupert Murdoch, has the most stringent border checks in the EU. It's the only major power not to be signed up to the Schengen agreement for one. Anyway you're not 'force fed' anything. Except maybe your own opinions by daddy, but I don't think we can blame the brown man for that. If anything, the racial separatism you're promoting is what has caused the minor insulated Muslim communities in the UK.

 

 

Assimilation and adaptation to our way of life does not affect their own culture and traditions. Maybe if you had a firmer grasp and a better understanding, you would actually know this.

 

That's exactly what it does. I mean, literally EXACTLY what it does..

 

I didn't read most of your post because it was littered with petty insults and most of it was just a childish rant aimed at me for having different views to the zionist government I am currently stuck in and didn't vote for

 

 

 Haha oh man, I'm dealing with a guy who thinks the Conservatives aren't Conservative enough. Well I'm sorry buddy, but Oswald Mosley is dead and resigned to the past. Soon enough, so will Nigel Farage be. Not dead, but merely a spectre of a sad time in British history, when the last remnants of bigotry and ignorance hung on for dear life.

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Posted 23 February 2014 - 07:08 AM Edited by Melchior, 23 February 2014 - 07:12 AM.

I feel inclined to add that there are a number of Islamic-majority states that are tolerant towards their Christian minority. The argument that "they're dicks to us when we go there, so we should be dicks to them when they come here" shows ignorance to the reality of religious relations in the world.. as well as being a laughable non-sequitur. 

 

Also what's this nonsense about "preserving" British culture? Why would one seek to preserve a culture in its current state if they weren't fervent believers in its superiority? Unless a culture is being systematically attacked, whether or not to "preserve" it seems like a pointless question. 


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Posted 24 February 2014 - 01:13 PM

This is ridiculous. "3rd World Rape States"? Damn imperialist Somalians pigs

 

You're bullsh*t claims about how immigrants should assimilate are just ludicrous. Shouldn't that work both ways? When I go to my dads home of Turkey, I see the whole beach front filled with English pubs and hear English spoken more than Turkish. 

You're half assed claims of Kurdish rape gangs are just retarded, yes, there is a small minority of non-English sex offenders here, are you just going to completely ignore the vast majority who are white-British?

I find it laughable when you talk about the poor white working class being exploited by evil immigrants. Trust me, the only people exploiting white-British people, are white-British people.

The vast majority of "benefit thieves" are the white working class, not immigrants who mainly come to work not sponge off the system. 

 

To be honest, I think when you rule a country with an iron fist for hundreds of years, then leave your crumbling system in that country, you have a duty to that countries citizens. After all, look at all the South Asians who died for Britain in both World Wars, to talk about stopping their immigration is to spit on everything they fought for.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 12:24 PM

Nationalism vs multiculturalism:

 

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 09:33 PM

Nationalism vs multiculturalism:
 
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The D&D section of the forum is for enlightened, intelligent discussion. If you aren't going to abide by the rules of it, don't contribute.
All of your earlier points have been extensively rebutted, so unless you're actually going to engage with the topic at hand, please don't come back.

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 12:23 PM

Rebutted? I never even got an answer to my previous message.

 

And by the way, I'm not too fond of your style, if you know what I mean. For a moderator, you sure insult people a lot and dismiss opinions because they come from "bigots". Is there any chance you're part of the so-called elite within the EU that thinks the people of Switzerland voted "wrong" regarding immigration policy?

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Posted 10 March 2014 - 03:25 PM

Well, if you'd had the common courtesy to read the rest of the thread:

1) "Rape culture" amongst foreign nationals in most Western countries is simply a myth. There's no empirical evidence to suggest that the rates reported rape involving foreign nationals as perpetrators are higher than those of domestic citizens.

2) Your comments about Sweden aren't entirely accurate. The Swedish average unemployment rate hasn't changed markedly over the last two years. Even if it had, correlation shouldn't be confused with causation. You're making the claim that the rise in unemployment is directly a result of immigration. That's an unproven assumption that contradicts all academic evidence on the effects immigration in Western countries, which have tended to conclude that immigration is generally a net job creator.

Your comments about "Muslim infestations" indicate nothing more than your own xenophobia. I can reach no other conclusion from such language that you believe all Muslims to be parasitic and subhuman; conveniently almost exactly the same analogy drawn in almost every act of genocide in European history, from Bosnia back to Nazi Germany.

Frankly I don't give a toss whether you like my style. If people are going to express views that contradict accepted wisdom and empirical evidence to perpetuate utter myths in the name of "denouncing multiculturalism" (read "promoting nationalism and xenophobia"), they deserve to get mocked for it.
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