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#2731

Posted 19 October 2013 - 05:23 PM

trevor sees clowns so it's just hallucinations


Right, I forgot. Two of the characters hallucinate.
Still, Michael doesn’t see clowns, he sees aliens.

Sorry to be a downer, but Mount Chiliad has been Mount Chiliad since 2004 (GTA: San Andreas). I doubt it's related.


I know about SA. I also know that he word chiliad has been chiliad since hundreds of years before video games even existed. I’m not sure how either of those facts addresses what I wrote though.

I guess people would rather reverse engineer the game code than think about the story and the aliens at this point. Oh well, just leaves more of the fun for me!

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 05:33 PM

This may or may not have anything to do with unlocking the mystery. But I'm exploring the Alamo sea with the sub. Does anyone remember what Trevor lost here. I remember in a mission Trevor following something and it crashes here and he loses it. What was it?

a plane. you can find it there among some weapons. nothing special there. explored the sea with a sanchez thx to an underwater mod for ps3

Where do u go for gta v mods. I have a separate ps3 that's jailbroken as well

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 05:33 PM

Sorry to be a downer, but Mount Chiliad has been Mount Chiliad since 2004 (GTA: San Andreas). I doubt it's related.


I know about SA. I also know that he word chiliad has been chiliad since hundreds of years before video games even existed. I’m not sure how either of those facts addresses what I wrote though.

I guess people would rather reverse engineer the game code than think about the story and the aliens at this point. Oh well, just leaves more of the fun for me!


so you wanna tell us that R*, being aware of the fact that the meaning of chilliad is known since gta sa, implemented a riddle based on the meaning of chilliad? good luck on wasting your time ^^

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 05:36 PM

This may or may not have anything to do with unlocking the mystery. But I'm exploring the Alamo sea with the sub. Does anyone remember what Trevor lost here. I remember in a mission Trevor following something and it crashes here and he loses it. What was it?

a plane. you can find it there among some weapons. nothing special there. explored the sea with a sanchez thx to an underwater mod for ps3


Where do u go for gta v mods. I have a separate ps3 that's jailbroken as well


try to find one for ps3 ^^ doubt there will be one. at least i didnt found one a couple of days ago so i made my own ^^

would have to get the file from my ps3 and upload it. would be happy if you find one though ^^

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 05:50 PM

so you wanna tell us that R*, being aware of the fact that the meaning of chilliad is known since gta sa, implemented a riddle based on the meaning of chilliad? good luck on wasting your time ^^


That sure is vague. Known to _whom_ since GTA: SA? What do they know? Are you sure that everyone who bought GTAV played SA too? Most of the people here can't even spell or pronounce the word!

Anyway, none of that matters to what I wrote. Looks like my little commentary went a little over your head. Maybe you shouldn't worry about it.

It's still weird that everyone's ignoring the alien though.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:04 PM

^ wait, what? Lol
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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:28 PM

 

trevor sees clowns so it's just hallucinations


Right, I forgot. Two of the characters hallucinate.
Still, Michael doesn’t see clowns, he sees aliens.

Sorry to be a downer, but Mount Chiliad has been Mount Chiliad since 2004 (GTA: San Andreas). I doubt it's related.


I know about SA. I also know that he word chiliad has been chiliad since hundreds of years before video games even existed. I’m not sure how either of those facts addresses what I wrote though.

I guess people would rather reverse engineer the game code than think about the story and the aliens at this point. Oh well, just leaves more of the fun for me!

 

You seem to be missing the point.

I was trying to say, they didn't call it "Chiliad" to be part of this mystery or to reference 1000 years in a way that would be relevant.

I'm saying it's ALWAYS been called Chiliad, since before this mystery existed. Therefore I doubt using it's name is any use.


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:31 PM

I keep forgetting to check, but why is the sign downtown broken? The pole is snapped and the sign hanging to the side. It looks like something crashed into it.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:42 PM

Just a crazy idea : 

We have fuel in this gta to burn down things. Been looking in the game files and it's full of Decal and Burnt_Decal reference to textures.

What if some of the glyphs, or other spots change in appearance when burned ?

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:42 PM

As far as I know this has not been proven.  Fort Z and the FIB UFO all have their own strings, not related to the downtown UFO.  Furthermore, why would they name them "Downtown UFO" when they aren't even remotely close to downtown?

 

 
It's been said for weeks now, we need to look downtown for another UFO.  Why would R* put a UFO everywhere else on the map, but not on the part of the map where content is more concentrated?  There's a UFO downtown and it hasn't been found because we have focused our search everywhere else EXCEPT downtown.
 
As a community I strongly believe we've made this entire mystery way more complicated than it was ever meant to be.  R* wouldn't put this much work into the mystery.
 
There's either nothing else to discover, or we're overlooked the obvious.

 
I have looked over downtown a lot and I know other people on here have too. Even if this weren't true, as soon as the Zancudo and Hippy camp UFOs were found there must have been thousands upon thousands of people searching the skies for another one. I find it hard to believe that another UFO could have been missed, unless it required very specific conditions to find or something else needed to be done to make it appear.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:45 PM

You seem to be missing the point.


I know exactly what my point was. :-/
Maybe you don't think it's significant... but judging from this message I'm guessing you just didn't get it. Not a big deal! Don't worry about it. I'll keep doing my thing, but there are any number of fun ways to read the game. Don't let my ideas bring you down, just let 'em fly on by.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:46 PM

As far as I know this has not been proven.  Fort Z and the FIB UFO all have their own strings, not related to the downtown UFO.  Furthermore, why would they name them "Downtown UFO" when they aren't even remotely close to downtown?

 

 
It's been said for weeks now, we need to look downtown for another UFO.  Why would R* put a UFO everywhere else on the map, but not on the part of the map where content is more concentrated?  There's a UFO downtown and it hasn't been found because we have focused our search everywhere else EXCEPT downtown.
 
As a community I strongly believe we've made this entire mystery way more complicated than it was ever meant to be.  R* wouldn't put this much work into the mystery.
 
There's either nothing else to discover, or we're overlooked the obvious.

 
I have looked over downtown a lot and I know other people on here have too. Even if this weren't true, as soon as the Zancudo and Hippy camp UFOs were found there must have been thousands upon thousands of people searching the skies for another one. I find it hard to believe that another UFO could have been missed, unless it required very specific conditions to find or something else needed to be done to make it appear.


and again what benjamoose has found are the images/decals of the ufo's over fort z and the hippy camp. nothing more nothing less. if you want to know why they are placed inside downtown folders then ask R*

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 06:48 PM

Hey guys, I just posted this to the ChiliadMystery reddit, and now I'm posting it here.

 

Hey all. I thought I'd try to figure this out before posting it here, but I think I've hit a wall with it and need others' advice. I found the sounds the Zancudo UFO makes a bit strange and repeating, so I sat on top of it for around 8-9 minutes just recording the sound, no music or sfx clogging it up, direct line in. I then put the sound into Ableton Live and put the sound clip into Izotope Iris to get a spectrogram of the sound.

What I got was fairly interesting. I believe there is a coded message in the sound pattern the UFO makes. It plays 2 low blaring G notes and then a high pitched note afterward, which then repeats with different high pitched frequency every time. It comes out to what looks like something hidden in the audio. Here's a few pictures from the spectrogram:

http://imgur.com/6pSolZ4
http://imgur.com/LmHZF3p
http://imgur.com/ohxrbcG
http://imgur.com/iahR9PR

The other thing to note: I thought I would find a repeating pattern with the sound, where the audio loops. But after recording 9 minutes of the UFO sounds, I can't seem to find where the pattern starts and loops. If there is a message in there, it's either really long, or dynamic.

Anybody have any insights on how to decode a possible message in the UFO sounds?


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 07:03 PM

As far as I know this has not been proven.  Fort Z and the FIB UFO all have their own strings, not related to the downtown UFO.  Furthermore, why would they name them "Downtown UFO" when they aren't even remotely close to downtown?

 

 
It's been said for weeks now, we need to look downtown for another UFO.  Why would R* put a UFO everywhere else on the map, but not on the part of the map where content is more concentrated?  There's a UFO downtown and it hasn't been found because we have focused our search everywhere else EXCEPT downtown.
 
As a community I strongly believe we've made this entire mystery way more complicated than it was ever meant to be.  R* wouldn't put this much work into the mystery.
 
There's either nothing else to discover, or we're overlooked the obvious.

 
I have looked over downtown a lot and I know other people on here have too. Even if this weren't true, as soon as the Zancudo and Hippy camp UFOs were found there must have been thousands upon thousands of people searching the skies for another one. I find it hard to believe that another UFO could have been missed, unless it required very specific conditions to find or something else needed to be done to make it appear.


and again what benjamoose has found are the images/decals of the ufo's over fort z and the hippy camp. nothing more nothing less. if you want to know why they are placed inside downtown folders then ask R*

I don't think this is the case?

The strings I found refer to way more than just "textures". Maybe they somehow do link to the other UFOs, but they were referencing movement and other such things.

Not just textures.

Not only that but the term "specialfloaty" as has been pointed out, refers to the UFO content in general, not a specific two textures.

And even if that was the case, if it's another FIB UFO it'd undoubtedly use the same texture anyway.
 

You seem to be missing the point.


I know exactly what my point was. :-/
Maybe you don't think it's significant... but judging from this message I'm guessing you just didn't get it. Not a big deal! Don't worry about it. I'll keep doing my thing, but there are any number of fun ways to read the game. Don't let my ideas bring you down, just let 'em fly on by.

I meant MY point.

I'm not saying your idea was ludicrous, what I'm saying is the mountain was already named before this game existed. Therefore it's name is very unlikely to be related to the mystery.

The concept of it referring to 1000 years being related isn't too much of a stretch, but given Mount Chiliad preexists GTAV, I'd say it's safe to say it was not intended to be linked.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 07:07 PM

Just a crazy idea : 

We have fuel in this gta to burn down things. Been looking in the game files and it's full of Decal and Burnt_Decal reference to textures.

What if some of the glyphs, or other spots change in appearance when burned ?

 

 

That could be possible. I would start trying with the faded one. Maybe you can make it complete if you burn it? i would try this myself, but i'm not at home right now.


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 07:12 PM

ouch -.-

again these is a file from the downtown files check the filename(left box in the screenshot) with the ones in the level1.txt

VKGgIjp.jpg

besides that image there is also the hippy camp ufo textures -.-
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Posted 19 October 2013 - 07:26 PM Edited by Grumbledore, 19 October 2013 - 07:47 PM.

to make it more specific:

gta5\_citye\downtown_01\dt1_tc_rpf\dt1_tc_dufo.xtd

.xtd files are texture files for 360 (.xdr files are texture containers too but different ones and not viewable for the ps3 version (.cdr))
.ctd files are texture files for ps3

you can open em with dangerons GTA V Console Texture Editor.

i have been digging arround game files for a week or more now and got quite a good understanding about the structures there.

textures of dt1_tc_dufo.ctd:
http://i.imgur.com/bfVyD8u.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/o1Mq8Wj.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/gG7pdky.jpg

you can see the file actually opened in the screens for the light. on the right side of the import button...
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Posted 19 October 2013 - 07:33 PM

@Grumbledore Actually that image from the file is in this video from sakis25.

Here:
 
It makes me wonder if there is something bigger?
 
Even these sounds from @Mokiki
 
 
 
Hey all. I thought I'd try to figure this out before posting it here, but I think I've hit a wall with it and need others' advice. I found the sounds the Zancudo UFO makes a bit strange and repeating, so I sat on top of it for around 8-9 minutes just recording the sound, no music or sfx clogging it up, direct line in. I then put the sound into Ableton Live and put the sound clip into Izotope Iris to get a spectrogram of the sound.
What I got was fairly interesting. I believe there is a coded message in the sound pattern the UFO makes. It plays 2 low blaring G notes and then a high pitched note afterward, which then repeats with different high pitched frequency every time. It comes out to what looks like something hidden in the audio.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 07:35 PM

Just to add srry for the double posting. He had these images

 

http://imgur.com/6pSolZ4

http://imgur.com/LmHZF3p

http://imgur.com/ohxrbcG

http://imgur.com/iahR9PR

 

Interesting to be honest.


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 08:04 PM Edited by stangone50, 19 October 2013 - 08:51 PM.

Listen guys about the glyphs . The other day I thought we had confirmed we had found 4 of the 5 glyphs . Now the one that was found the other day i was told had hald a moon/sun above it or under it ? I still have not seen a picture of this . I was also told it was just part of the half washed glyph .. This glyph from the other day is a completely new glyph . I just went around and inspected 5 seperate glyphs ,all in different locations . God dam social club is not letting me take pics though .
I took this pic myself with very close to all 5 locations marked .
Im thinkin the mural is not facing west like everyone said .Everyone has been looking on the west lower part of the mountain for the last glyph . The POIs i made do not really look like the mural BUT if drawn in a 3d version they could very well match up .
Now if a 3d overlay was done this way the ufo would probably line up with the one in the ocean , the egg would be in paletto bay and the jetpack somewhere close to the bottom of the cable car .Someone really good with 3d images could make a rendering where all glyphs line up and almost pinpoint the 2 entrance/exit lines .
From top to bottom POI
1-solid eye glyph (not the one under the platform )
2-half washed glyph
3-cloud/rain glyph
4-mountain /radio antenna glyph
5-moon glyph
7FqPsik.jpg
Also if this is right the 3 clues on the right side were used to find the ufo . Its the 2 missing on the left side that we need to know what they mean .
Guys tell me if your with me on this post???
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Posted 19 October 2013 - 08:11 PM

Interesting to say. Great find btw. But if anyone is wondering why my post was out of wack. I'm on my PS3, It has limitations with forums. But my only way of accessing the internet right now.


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 08:13 PM

Just a side note and completely offtopic. Guys when you post pics with pois. can you please put that cross what is on the map on top of the poi. That way it is much easier to find that place, and zoom out the map so you can see atleast one road with a curve. that way it's much easier to find exact location :)

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 08:46 PM Edited by Benjamoose, 19 October 2013 - 08:47 PM.

New stuff:
 

*** gta5\props\lev_des\lev_des_rpf\prop_asteroid_01.xdr :
 
kmJizzUrkmRizhU_kMB
prop_asteroid_01.
Prop_Asteroid_01
asteroid_01_d
asteroid_01_s
asteroid_01_n

Does anyone recall anywhere where an asteroid model was used? If not this could be interesting.



*** gta5\props\lev_des\lev_des_rpf\prop_biotech_store.xdr :
 
Prop_Biotech_Bone_01
prop_biotech_store.
prop_metal_pipe_01n
prop_metal_pipe_01
Prop_Biotech_Store
Prop_metal_Grey2
Prop_Bio_store_s
Prop_Bio_store

Biotech store? What does this refer to? Perhaps an internal name for a common store?



*** gta5\props\lev_des\lev_des_rpf\prop_egg_clock_01.xdr :
 
Egg_Clock_Minute_Hand
prop_base_white_full
Egg_Clock_Hour_Hand
prop_egg_clock_01.
Prop_Egg_Clock_01
prop_egg_clock

I forget. Was the egg under the chicken a clock? If not, what clock does this refer to?



*** gta5\props\lev_des\lev_des_rpf\prop_sky_cover_01.xdr :
 
prop_chrome_dirty_02
prop_sky_cover_01.
PROP_SKY_COVER_01

Probably nothing. But I put it here anyway.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 08:54 PM Edited by Grumbledore, 19 October 2013 - 08:57 PM.

New stuff:
 
*** gta5\props\lev_des\lev_des_rpf\prop_asteroid_01.xdr :
 
kmJizzUrkmRizhU_kMB
prop_asteroid_01.
Prop_Asteroid_01
asteroid_01_d
asteroid_01_s
asteroid_01_n

Does anyone recall anywhere where an asteroid model was used? If not this could be interesting.



*** gta5\props\lev_des\lev_des_rpf\prop_biotech_store.xdr :
 
Prop_Biotech_Bone_01
prop_biotech_store.
prop_metal_pipe_01n
prop_metal_pipe_01
Prop_Biotech_Store
Prop_metal_Grey2
Prop_Bio_store_s
Prop_Bio_store

Biotech store? What does this refer to? Perhaps an internal name for a common store?



*** gta5\props\lev_des\lev_des_rpf\prop_egg_clock_01.xdr :
 
Egg_Clock_Minute_Hand
prop_base_white_full
Egg_Clock_Hour_Hand
prop_egg_clock_01.
Prop_Egg_Clock_01
prop_egg_clock

I forget. Was the egg under the chicken a clock? If not, what clock does this refer to?



*** gta5\props\lev_des\lev_des_rpf\prop_sky_cover_01.xdr :
 
prop_chrome_dirty_02
prop_sky_cover_01.
PROP_SKY_COVER_01

Probably nothing. But I put it here anyway.



biotech = biotech labs?  nvm was humane labs biotech was somewhere else haha sorry

egg is the clock in paleto bay

and as for the asteroid never saw one so far ^^

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 08:56 PM

Guys, I understand that we've hit a brick wal, but if R* intended us to jsut crack open the game and essentially cheat, they'd have told us to in a clue. Imagine how it'll feel when we crack it by cheating, then SEE how we could have done it using nothing but intelligence. It'll be a bad feeling.

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 08:58 PM

Listen guys about the glyphs . The other day I thought we had confirmed we had found 4 of the 5 glyphs . Now the one that was found the other day i was told had hald a moon/sun above it or under it ? I still have not seen a picture of this . I was also told it was just part of the half washed glyph .. This glyph from the other day is a completely new glyph . I just went around and inspected 5 seperate glyphs ,all in different locations . God dam social club is not letting me take pics though .
I took this pic myself with very close to all 5 locations marked .
Im thinkin the mural is not facing west like everyone said .Everyone has been looking on the west lower part of the mountain for the last glyph . The POIs i made do not really look like the mural BUT if drawn in a 3d version they could very well match up .
Now if a 3d overlay was done this way the ufo would probably line up with the one in the ocean , the egg would be in paletto bay and the jetpack somewhere close to the bottom of the cable car .Someone really good with 3d images could make a rendering where all glyphs line up and almost pinpoint the 2 entrance/exit lines .
From top to bottom POI
1-solid eye glyph (not the one under the platform )
2-half washed glyph
3-cloud/rain glyph
4-mountain /radio antenna glyph
5-moon glyph
7FqPsik.jpg
Also if this is right the 3 clues on the right side were used to find the ufo . Its the 2 missing on the left side that we need to know what they mean .
Guys tell me if your with me on this post???

Preciate the map mah dude. ;)


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 09:03 PM

*** gta5\props\lev_des\lev_des_rpf\prop_egg_clock_01.xdr :

 
Egg_Clock_Minute_Hand
prop_base_white_full
Egg_Clock_Hour_Hand
prop_egg_clock_01.
Prop_Egg_Clock_01
prop_egg_clock

I forget. Was the egg under the chicken a clock? If not, what clock does this refer to?

 

 

I mentioned this clock a few pages back. The hour hand doesn't work for some reason (unless it's been fixed in a patch)

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 09:05 PM

 

*** gta5\props\lev_des\lev_des_rpf\prop_egg_clock_01.xdr :

 
Egg_Clock_Minute_Hand
prop_base_white_full
Egg_Clock_Hour_Hand
prop_egg_clock_01.
Prop_Egg_Clock_01
prop_egg_clock

I forget. Was the egg under the chicken a clock? If not, what clock does this refer to?

 

 

I mentioned this clock a few pages back. The hour hand doesn't work for some reason (unless it's been fixed in a patch)

 

Where is the hour hand @ on the clock? Or just tell me where the clock is and I'll go see for myself.


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 09:07 PM

This whole thread is full of tenuous links... I know it's not exactly the same, but to compare 'Ready Player One' again, people spend five years searchign with no avail, and then one tiny click gives someone the answer. From there' it's solved within a year, fro mthe beginning. THIS IS NOT THAT HARD. There is no money at stake here. We DO NOT need to tear the game open looking for clues, USE YOUR HEAD. R* set us a challenge, and we're gonna CHEAT? REALLY? The spirit of the hunt is gone... stop rifling through the game and use yer noggin :)


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Posted 19 October 2013 - 09:07 PM

Guys, I understand that we've hit a brick wal, but if R* intended us to jsut crack open the game and essentially cheat, they'd have told us to in a clue. Imagine how it'll feel when we crack it by cheating, then SEE how we could have done it using nothing but intelligence. It'll be a bad feeling.

 

By all means, use nothing but your intelligence and solve it for us, haha. (this is a light-hearted joke, please don't take offence) But in all seriousness, nothing can actually be 'solved' this way, I think people are just looking to give us some hope that there is still reason to try.





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