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Posted 23 November 2013 - 08:41 AM Edited by ZancudoTakeover, 23 November 2013 - 08:44 AM.

Before I pass out I figured id post this.  Hopefully it makes sense, im pretty beat.

 

Here is my massive listing of scenarios I tried to match up. I used http://pastebin.com/8Nk5Rkc7 as my source and tried to narrow it down to the ones that did not make sense. I used spoiler tags so this wasn't too long. 

 

Basically these areas are important for some reason.  Eastereggs appear in these locations along with other random events.   Some times it must be a certain time of day or other conditions before the scenario is hit.  If you sit in the area without leaving the scenario will not play out, you must be out of the x/y and go back in the correct time/conditions for it to trigger.

The Regions I could not match up and unmatched item groups are whats left over.  These are going to be my points of interest.

Explained First hand:

Spoiler



Regions Explainable with Groups:
I believe these are how different peds act in different locations.  
Spoiler

 
 
Regions I could not match to a grouping:
Spoiler


Unmatched Items Groups:
Spoiler

 

What is my take from this?

Probably explained out of this list is:

  • Altruist camp people reported seing them doing stuff at a certain time even after killing them.
  • Hookies Diner I remember people shooting at me, probably just some gang.
  • Humane Plant people reported some weird activity outside at a certain time

I personally am going to focus on these areas.  They seem like something is missing from there:

  • Alien Camp
  • Cassidy Creek*
  • Mount Josiah*
  • Zancudo River*
  • Military base*
  • unNamed

*All these are in same area.  Bunch of stuff in zancudo

And the notiable mentions are:

  • Cluckin Bell
  • Donkey Punch Family Farm
  • Pork Whistle Farm
  • Farmers Market
  • Cape Catfish
  • Stables
  • Elysian island
  • GWC & Golfing Society
  • Richman Glen
  • Sawmil

Updated map of most of the locations of interest (was quick and dirty - I got lazy after awhile) - http://i.imgur.com/Xz7cvXN.jpg

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 08:44 AM Edited by Darthwill, 23 November 2013 - 08:47 AM.

Btw @XMarqstheSpot I was the one to mention the Mirror Park to HakatoX. 

 

But I give you Credit for doing all this. You deserve it if something is truly found. :D

 

But all File Credit goes to @ZancudoTakeover .

 

Thanx we owe you one. :D

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 08:50 AM

Ok guys, to make up for me jumping the gun there i bring an idea that might hold some weight.

 

 

The ability to view the Chiliad UFO doesn't depend on where your character is standing, it depends on the camera being inside the viewing area.(you can test this by switching between zoomed in and zoomed out camera angles when near the edge of the viewing area)

 

I couldn't think of any vehicles that would get a far enough back cam view to actually have the character collide into the UFO...

 

But maybe the Blimp camera would be far enough back if you were on the viewing area edge?(near the dirt bikes that spawn up there)

 

 

Unfortunately i have a guest and child staying the night in the game room so i can't try this myself, so anyone is welcome to have at it if they feel up to it.

 

ALSO, i don't know what this would prove except maybe that the UFO is/isn't a Hologram? Just always thought about how to get closest to the UFO but, never thought about the blimp until now.

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 08:55 AM

GO 500!


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 08:56 AM Edited by Darthwill, 23 November 2013 - 08:57 AM.

Well I'm out for the night. Pretty Tired. I hope I don't have dreams of this. It's gonna drive me insane. I bet this hunt will be done by next month if not sooner. Night everyone. We are getting Closer with new leads finally. We will crack this definitely before 2014. :D 


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 08:58 AM Edited by neku_neku, 23 November 2013 - 09:16 AM.

done some photo work

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all picture are in 1:1 ratio of size.

A. hippy camp is mirrored top bottom an rotated slight clockwise

B. hippy camp is mirrored top bottom an rotated slight counterclockwise as XMarqstheSpot said

size are matching perfectly.

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 09:03 AM Edited by TitaniksLv, 23 November 2013 - 09:04 AM.

19zxVc6.gif

How the heck you guys get out of this ''If you cant stand the heat, get out of kitchen, and with women all things are impossible, with men everything is possible''?

I see (from the left red thingy..) to right

CA+LL=Call, Stay, If the ...(cant read), with ..(cant read), All areas, idk, idk, Things, are, impossible, if you

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 09:25 AM Edited by XMarqstheSpot, 23 November 2013 - 09:28 AM.

done some photo work

zv5x.png

all picture are in 1:1 ratio of size.

A. hippy camp is mirrored top bottom an rotated slight clockwise

B. hippy camp is mirrored top bottom an rotated slight counterclockwise as XMarqstheSpot said

size are matching perfectly.

Actually matches up decently like that but, i feel like i have jumped the gun as they say on this.

 

sorry about that.

 

And thanks for doing the photo work.

 

EDIT: the A pic looks closer IMHO.


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 09:34 AM

 

How the heck you guys get out of this ''If you cant stand the heat, get out of kitchen, and with women all things are impossible, with men everything is possible''?

I see (from the left red thingy..) to right

CA+LL=Call, Stay, If the ...(cant read), with ..(cant read), All areas, idk, idk, Things, are, impossible, if you

CA__ IF YOU @ IMPOSSIBLE (I on side and split one atop another) ARE (A is over RE) _LL THINGS(G is above S)

 

look at it in the game, prolly easier to read.


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 09:35 AM Edited by EramVerdes, 23 November 2013 - 09:44 AM.

 

How the heck you guys get out of this ''If you cant stand the heat, get out of kitchen, and with women all things are impossible, with men everything is possible''?

I see (from the left red thingy..) to right

CA+LL=Call, Stay, If the ...(cant read), with ..(cant read), All areas, idk, idk, Things, are, impossible, if you

 

 

edit: turned all white before editing, so maybe it's better this way

call/cast/can't, stay/stand, if the k (cant read-some say kitchen), with men, all are pos(sible), idk, (wi)th women, all things, are, impossible, @?, if you


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 09:36 AM

if i remember correctly there's only water fountain at this place

 

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 09:52 AM Edited by diehardDanny, 23 November 2013 - 09:55 AM.

 

 

How the heck you guys get out of this ''If you cant stand the heat, get out of kitchen, and with women all things are impossible, with men everything is possible''?

I see (from the left red thingy..) to right

CA+LL=Call, Stay, If the ...(cant read), with ..(cant read), All areas, idk, idk, Things, are, impossible, if you

 

 

edit: turned all white before editing, so maybe it's better this way

call/cast/can't, stay/stand, if the k (cant read-some say kitchen), with men, all are pos(sible), idk, (wi)th women, all things, are, impossible, @?, if you

 

Actually I was wondering about that too but since I'm late one month I refrained from bringing that up not to discredit anyone who may have spent a ton of time decoding it.

 

Too bad the mural itself is so low res.


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 09:53 AM

19zxVc6.gif

How the heck you guys get out of this ''If you cant stand the heat, get out of kitchen, and with women all things are impossible, with men everything is possible''?

I see (from the left red thingy..) to right

CA+LL=Call, Stay, If the ...(cant read), with ..(cant read), All areas, idk, idk, Things, are, impossible, if you

or you have to read forward and backwards.  Call if things are impossible..


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 09:58 AM

Has anyone btw seen those Native American like drawings near the dam? there are arrows, a skull or 2 and some strange figures of ppl.


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 10:38 AM

Has anyone btw seen those Native American like drawings near the dam? there are arrows, a skull or 2 and some strange figures of ppl.

Try caveman drawings... 

Got pics?

 

 

I tend to get a little butt hurt over mislabeling of our art.... 

The thing that gets me the worst... 

Dreamcatchers in the f*cking car......

I see it all the time... yet not a single one of those cars are slept in... negating the purpose of it in the first place....

My rant that had nothing to do with you is done.... 

Srry you had to hear it ...

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 10:39 AM

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 10:46 AM Edited by roadkill6creator, 23 November 2013 - 10:48 AM.

 

Has anyone btw seen those Native American like drawings near the dam? there are arrows, a skull or 2 and some strange figures of ppl.

Try caveman drawings... 

Got pics?

 

 

I tend to get a little butt hurt over mislabeling of our art.... 

The thing that gets me the worst... 

Dreamcatchers in the f*cking car......

I see it all the time... yet not a single one of those cars are slept in... negating the purpose of it in the first place....

My rant that had nothing to do with you is done.... 

Srry you had to hear it ...

 

the strange thing is that they are hard to take pics off. there are arrows pointing at eyes like go look over there, then strange birdlike humans ... i'll post pics but it's better to go over there and climb the rocks yourself, then you see what i mean.

 

http://socialclub.ro...Ze0SDdrg8z21sUA

 

http://socialclub.ro...2TEGZsg8XV4ODjw

 

http://socialclub.ro...-PkeTLVJwqZdUvA

 

http://socialclub.ro...5BUKy3p5pVmN8kA

 

there are many more but they are very subtile. and ppl that wanna say, that's just the rocks: go over there and see them. there are even places where they dripped inkt or whtever they used.

 

there are also some letters among them but it's real hard to make out. gonna get a chopper and go in daylight. maybe they will be clearer. but they faded so cavemen paintings sound about right i guess.


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 10:54 AM

 

 

Has anyone btw seen those Native American like drawings near the dam? there are arrows, a skull or 2 and some strange figures of ppl.

Try caveman drawings... 

Got pics?

 

 

I tend to get a little butt hurt over mislabeling of our art.... 

The thing that gets me the worst... 

Dreamcatchers in the f*cking car......

I see it all the time... yet not a single one of those cars are slept in... negating the purpose of it in the first place....

My rant that had nothing to do with you is done.... 

Srry you had to hear it ...

 

the strange thing is that they are hard to take pics off. there are arrows pointing at eyes like go look over there, then strange birdlike humans ... i'll post pics but it's better to go over there and climb the rocks yourself, then you see what i mean.

 

http://socialclub.ro...Ze0SDdrg8z21sUA

 

http://socialclub.ro...2TEGZsg8XV4ODjw

 

http://socialclub.ro...-PkeTLVJwqZdUvA

 

http://socialclub.ro...5BUKy3p5pVmN8kA

 

there are many more but they are very subtile. and ppl that wanna say, that's just the rocks: go over there and see them. there are even places where they dripped inkt or whtever they used.

 

there are also some letters among them but it's real hard to make out. gonna get a chopper and go in daylight. maybe they will be clearer. but they faded so cavemen paintings sound about right i guess.

 

here's one from an arrow pointing to an eye.

 

http://socialclub.ro...K60aeTs8CQHfcMQ

 

when you zoom in on them with a sniper you see it's another texture then the rocks so it's definatly something that was designed like this, meaning not just the rock.


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 10:54 AM

 

 

Has anyone btw seen those Native American like drawings near the dam? there are arrows, a skull or 2 and some strange figures of ppl.

Try caveman drawings... 

Got pics?

 

 

I tend to get a little butt hurt over mislabeling of our art.... 

The thing that gets me the worst... 

Dreamcatchers in the f*cking car......

I see it all the time... yet not a single one of those cars are slept in... negating the purpose of it in the first place....

My rant that had nothing to do with you is done.... 

Srry you had to hear it ...

 

the strange thing is that they are hard to take pics off. there are arrows pointing at eyes like go look over there, then strange birdlike humans ... i'll post pics but it's better to go over there and climb the rocks yourself, then you see what i mean.

 

http://socialclub.ro...Ze0SDdrg8z21sUA

 

http://socialclub.ro...2TEGZsg8XV4ODjw

 

http://socialclub.ro...-PkeTLVJwqZdUvA

 

http://socialclub.ro...5BUKy3p5pVmN8kA

 

there are many more but they are very subtile. and ppl that wanna say, that's just the rocks: go over there and see them. there are even places where they dripped inkt or whtever they used.

 

there are also some letters among them but it's real hard to make out. gonna get a chopper and go in daylight. maybe they will be clearer. but they faded so cavemen paintings sound about right i guess.

 

 

I think people are starting to see things in everything. To me this are just rock details. If you want you can find hints in everything in the game. Textures, words, sentences, etc. Not everything is a hint.

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 10:58 AM Edited by roadkill6creator, 23 November 2013 - 10:59 AM.

 

 

 

Has anyone btw seen those Native American like drawings near the dam? there are arrows, a skull or 2 and some strange figures of ppl.

Try caveman drawings... 

Got pics?

 

 

I tend to get a little butt hurt over mislabeling of our art.... 

The thing that gets me the worst... 

Dreamcatchers in the f*cking car......

I see it all the time... yet not a single one of those cars are slept in... negating the purpose of it in the first place....

My rant that had nothing to do with you is done.... 

Srry you had to hear it ...

 

the strange thing is that they are hard to take pics off. there are arrows pointing at eyes like go look over there, then strange birdlike humans ... i'll post pics but it's better to go over there and climb the rocks yourself, then you see what i mean.

 

http://socialclub.ro...Ze0SDdrg8z21sUA

 

http://socialclub.ro...2TEGZsg8XV4ODjw

 

http://socialclub.ro...-PkeTLVJwqZdUvA

 

http://socialclub.ro...5BUKy3p5pVmN8kA

 

there are many more but they are very subtile. and ppl that wanna say, that's just the rocks: go over there and see them. there are even places where they dripped inkt or whtever they used.

 

there are also some letters among them but it's real hard to make out. gonna get a chopper and go in daylight. maybe they will be clearer. but they faded so cavemen paintings sound about right i guess.

 

 

I think people are starting to see things in everything. To me this are just rock details. If you want you can find hints in everything in the game. Textures, words, sentences, etc. Not everything is a hint.

 

ok, look at this one. like i said it's hard to take pictures of them. but pls go look there for yourself. this is one of the clearest i managed to take. it's strange that they look different when you're actually climbing there.

 

http://socialclub.ro...l6EOz4kJ_iqEMkQ


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 11:14 AM

lol and even when it's just the rocks then it looks just as cool and it's nicely made.


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 11:18 AM

 

 

 

 

Has anyone btw seen those Native American like drawings near the dam? there are arrows, a skull or 2 and some strange figures of ppl.

Try caveman drawings... 

Got pics?

 

 

I tend to get a little butt hurt over mislabeling of our art.... 

The thing that gets me the worst... 

Dreamcatchers in the f*cking car......

I see it all the time... yet not a single one of those cars are slept in... negating the purpose of it in the first place....

My rant that had nothing to do with you is done.... 

Srry you had to hear it ...

 

the strange thing is that they are hard to take pics off. there are arrows pointing at eyes like go look over there, then strange birdlike humans ... i'll post pics but it's better to go over there and climb the rocks yourself, then you see what i mean.

 

http://socialclub.ro...Ze0SDdrg8z21sUA

 

http://socialclub.ro...2TEGZsg8XV4ODjw

 

http://socialclub.ro...-PkeTLVJwqZdUvA

 

http://socialclub.ro...5BUKy3p5pVmN8kA

 

there are many more but they are very subtile. and ppl that wanna say, that's just the rocks: go over there and see them. there are even places where they dripped inkt or whtever they used.

 

there are also some letters among them but it's real hard to make out. gonna get a chopper and go in daylight. maybe they will be clearer. but they faded so cavemen paintings sound about right i guess.

 

 

I think people are starting to see things in everything. To me this are just rock details. If you want you can find hints in everything in the game. Textures, words, sentences, etc. Not everything is a hint.

 

ok, look at this one. like i said it's hard to take pictures of them. but pls go look there for yourself. this is one of the clearest i managed to take. it's strange that they look different when you're actually climbing there.

 

http://socialclub.ro...l6EOz4kJ_iqEMkQ

 

 

Sorry I still don't see it. 


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 11:25 AM

ah well. nvm.


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 11:55 AM

ah well. nvm.


We are human, our brains are trained to see patterns. Take a bottle of ketchup, squirt it into your hand and then throw it against a wall. You'll see patterns and designs everywhere, but they weren't intentional, it was random.

If something isn't clearly marked, or if there is any doubt at all about what it is you are seeing, chances are its just a random cluster of pixels that your brain has produced a pattern from.

This isn't a demeaning or insulting post, if it seems like it is it's entirely unintentional.
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Posted 23 November 2013 - 12:36 PM Edited by POWA, 23 November 2013 - 12:59 PM.

Why is there a rain glyph when there is lightning on the mural? It doesn't even have to be storming to see it, just rain.

 

Most likely because they aren't meant to represent lightning bolts in a rain storm. Sometimes radio symbols use lightning bolts like that to go over the antenna. I remember seeing a similar symbol as one of the radio stations in the game, but I don't remember which one it was.

 

On another more pointless note, I did Trever's S&F's mission again where you drive through the hospital. I went back inside, but there wasn't really anything interesting except candy named Meteorite and Earthquake (I'm sure it's in the convenient stores too, but I haven't checked).

 

Also, a broken defibrillator which had writing on it. I thought it was odd since I don't see a point in doing that if that is the only time we'll be able to go inside the hospital unless it was meant as a small joke if I'm reading the wording right.

 

Here is a pic. That is the best angle I could get. Does the last word say "Queefstat"? I also couldn't read the previous long C word. I looked at it from above, and I still couldn't make it out.

 

http://socialclub.ro...0n0a57BWCedGwqA


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 01:12 PM

@powa - I think that says '0(zero) tolerance inaccuracy with chromatography on queefstat', or something like that. Queefs are a thing if you don't know and want to google...
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Posted 23 November 2013 - 01:16 PM

Ok so I went back to the mural and tried to forget all the things we "know" lol this is what I come up with....

I think the mural is supposed to help us find the glyphs on the mountain (forget about the lines connecting everything for now) once we have found said glyphs and worked out how to spawn the holographic UFO atop of chiliad it is then I believe the hunt starts, (now for the lines) I think the line that goes straight down from the eye/UFO to the box with the cracked egg is to signify the start of the hunt/cracking the Easter egg. If you look at the line coming from the right of the mountain to the jetpack box it starts/finishes on the edge of the mountain glyph where as the line on the other side (UFO box) it's a dead end. I think this is supposed to tell us that we have to find the jetpack first in order to access a UFO, further signified by the big line at the bottom connecting the jetpack and UFO boxes.

As for ALL the other lines connecting things.... I'd say they were put in to both hide the importance of the lines mentioned above. eg so it's not so obvious. And also to tell us the whole thing is connected by which I mean the holographic UFO and the jetpack box and UFO box. ( I kinda think the UFO box if referring to the hippy camp as in the UFO on top of the car kinda looks like it).

So using that logic I started looking for clues then I thought "it's obvious".
Chiliad UFO= FIB markings
Hippy camp UFO= FIB markings
Big ass satellite dishes= FIB agents with scientists ( who also will kill scientists and one of there own if u engage them)
So with that I now believe its the FIB we have to concentrate on or even the IAA as dave tells you they are always messing in each others sh*t and that they are workin g on some next level sh*t when you play through the story

Also one thing that seems important to me is why the f*ck is the chiliad UFO holographic? I mean this must be important! Wether my theory is right or not the fact is ITS A HOLOGRAM!!! Why??? Or has this already been explained and I have just missed it?. I have been on this sh*t since day one btw I just haven't posted on this forum until recently. Because for the most part on here it's mainly wild/ VERY obscure theory's and I didn't want to clutter my brain with that sh*t lol. Not getting at anyone just saying it can get a bit off track sometimes. I just think it has to be more simple rather than more obscure.

Anyway that's where I'm at with the mystery right now. ( oh and I've also tried having Trevor bark at the moon on the 3rd Sunday of the month while its raining and in the headlights of the space docker while doing a handstand on mount gordo! And other random stuff that get posted on here!) looool sorry but that is where it's heading and it HAS TO BE MORE STRAIGHT FORWARD!! Don't you think?

Anyway does any of this ring true with any of my fellow hunter? Or am I goin nuts. I have other things fib related that seem fishy but I just noticed how fking long this post is! Ha

Please any input would be great as long as its mural/ FIB related. Lets stick with the "clues" we have and to me they scream FIB. What do you guys think?

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Posted 23 November 2013 - 01:28 PM

 

 

Has anyone btw seen those Native American like drawings near the dam? there are arrows, a skull or 2 and some strange figures of ppl.

Try caveman drawings... 

Got pics?

 

 

I tend to get a little butt hurt over mislabeling of our art.... 

The thing that gets me the worst... 

Dreamcatchers in the f*cking car......

I see it all the time... yet not a single one of those cars are slept in... negating the purpose of it in the first place....

My rant that had nothing to do with you is done.... 

Srry you had to hear it ...

 

the strange thing is that they are hard to take pics off. there are arrows pointing at eyes like go look over there, then strange birdlike humans ... i'll post pics but it's better to go over there and climb the rocks yourself, then you see what i mean.

 

http://socialclub.ro...Ze0SDdrg8z21sUA

 

http://socialclub.ro...2TEGZsg8XV4ODjw

 

http://socialclub.ro...-PkeTLVJwqZdUvA

 

http://socialclub.ro...5BUKy3p5pVmN8kA

 

there are many more but they are very subtile. and ppl that wanna say, that's just the rocks: go over there and see them. there are even places where they dripped inkt or whtever they used.

 

there are also some letters among them but it's real hard to make out. gonna get a chopper and go in daylight. maybe they will be clearer. but they faded so cavemen paintings sound about right i guess.

 

Why are you posting photos with rocks?


roadkill6creator
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Posted 23 November 2013 - 01:35 PM

about the markings that are on the watertowers (of wich ppl think are like yoga moves). i kept trying to remember where i saw things like that before.

these things look something like them. some look close like them.

 

http://www.cropcircl...ium/dragon7.gif

 

http://www.bltresear...verview4-76.jpg

 

they look like crop circle pictograms.  in the marsh next to zancudo there are circles in the grass. didn't check if they form patterns yet, or that it has to do something with anything. i you look around ingame too long everything turns into a clue.

 

who knows  we can find out what they mean.

 

off to bed now.


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Posted 23 November 2013 - 01:39 PM Edited by Druminator, 23 November 2013 - 01:41 PM.

To be honest, you can figure out what needs to be done in order to see the Chiliad ufo without ever actually seeing the glyphs. The red eye under the deck and the message on the back plus the lightning bolts.

 

'Come here while it's storming after you've finished the game.'

 

Not a single glyph was needed for that. As for 3am, why is it the moon glyph that is telling us that, because of the three dashes? There are threes scattered around this game, hell every single glyph has three dashes on them above the eyes, except the faded one of course. The ufo and jetpack even have three dashes, throw in the egg and there are a total of three boxes, three protags, three endings etc.

 

So if the glyphs are telling us the conditions for the Chiliad ufo, why even have them? Why would a clue tell me to go up the mountain when I am already there? Why would I need to know that it has to be raining when I clearly see lightning which to me is a storm, or at least the first thing that comes to mind. Do the red eye, the ufo box and all the glyphs tell me about a ufo? Why do I need seven clues for one thing? What about the damn jetpack?





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