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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:24 AM

Btw been 100% (not true , no cheats , all characters alive , all epsilon missions) for 3 weeks now lurking this forum trying all the epic thoughts you peeps came up with , i am happy test anything that sounds plausible


Ok, got an easy one for ya.

Alot of people think the red Xs represent player choices throughout the game.
So, start a new game, and as soon as free-roam is possible, check out the mural, if all the Xs are still there, then it's debunked.

Can't have certain choices made if you haven't 'made' any choices yet.

I'd be really dumbfounded if I am the first to suggest this obvious-as-f*ck course of action.

As for the rest of you, with all your shadow theories and burnt grass, you're looking too hard, and in all the wrong places.

The first thing any of you should be doing is doing your homework on traditional alien mythology, their appearences in pop-culture, related information about them.

R* no doubt is made up of those who were around since the 80s and earlier, they draw from 'those' experiences of fiction, not modern alien theories.

Look at those FIB UFOs for Christ sakes, they're retro as f*ck.
Think past, not present.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:27 AM

I'am playing and at 100% to test theories. However I should mention that I haven't used a cheat nor do I plan to so i cant make it rain on command and what not, but any other theory im down to test. Im just climbing up and falling off of the invisible ladder at the powerstation over and over again because im bored lol.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:29 AM

@ takoshi- I have already done this, the mural remains the same.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:31 AM

I'am playing and at 100% to test theories. However I should mention that I haven't used a cheat nor do I plan to so i cant make it rain on command and what not, but any other theory im down to test. Im just climbing up and falling off of the invisible ladder at the powerstation over and over again because im bored lol.

I think that not using cheats is essential but I'm not sure if that is a popular opinion on this forum.  May be one reason this hasn't gone anywhere in such a long time...everyone is using cheats to change the weather.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:35 AM Edited by Modified Soul, 24 October 2013 - 05:36 AM.

Btw been 100% (not true , no cheats , all characters alive , all epsilon missions) for 3 weeks now lurking this forum trying all the epic thoughts you peeps came up with , i am happy test anything that sounds plausible

Ok, got an easy one for ya.

Alot of people think the red Xs represent player choices throughout the game.
So, start a new game, and as soon as free-roam is possible, check out the mural, if all the Xs are still there, then it's debunked.

Can't have certain choices made if you haven't 'made' any choices yet.

I'd be really dumbfounded if I am the first to suggest this obvious-as-f*ck course of action.

As for the rest of you, with all your shadow theories and burnt grass, you're looking too hard, and in all the wrong places.

The first thing any of you should be doing is doing your homework on traditional alien mythology, their appearences in pop-culture, related information about them.

R* no doubt is made up of those who were around since the 80s and earlier, they draw from 'those' experiences of fiction, not modern alien theories.

Look at those FIB UFOs for Christ sakes, they're retro as f*ck.
Think past, not present.
Close encounters of the 3rd kind, we need music at the top of the hill

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:37 AM


 


I'm on top of Chiliad as we speak and it is raining and it is foggy it is 14:45 and nothing yet...

Anything?
 
Not yet it's still raining and still foggy and its about 18:30 but I was looking at the mural when I heard a cable car roll into the station but I though the doors next to me opened. I almost had a heart attack.

f*ck oath mate, same here, I used the thunder cheat and was studying the mural ferociously, and then I heard something mechanical, this whole mystery flashed before my eyes, as well as "i've solved it, holy f*ck.." I slowly turned, annnnd the door was still closed :/ hahaha

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:38 AM

That tree sticks out like a sore thumb only at night.. thought that was interesting.. but im still looking around the area.

There are a bunch of those trees by the Humane Labs and Research facility, not unique. they are a type of tree from where the game makers or one of their offices are from iirc, so it's likely they put it in the game.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:39 AM Edited by Takoshi88, 24 October 2013 - 05:41 AM.


 


I'm on top of Chiliad as we speak and it is raining and it is foggy it is 14:45 and nothing yet...

Anything?
 
Not yet it's still raining and still foggy and its about 18:30 but I was looking at the mural when I heard a cable car roll into the station but I though the doors next to me opened. I almost had a heart attack.
Whoops, double post.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:41 AM

 

Btw been 100% (not true , no cheats , all characters alive , all epsilon missions) for 3 weeks now lurking this forum trying all the epic thoughts you peeps came up with , i am happy test anything that sounds plausible


Ok, got an easy one for ya.

Alot of people think the red Xs represent player choices throughout the game.
So, start a new game, and as soon as free-roam is possible, check out the mural, if all the Xs are still there, then it's debunked.

Can't have certain choices made if you haven't 'made' any choices yet.

I'd be really dumbfounded if I am the first to suggest this obvious-as-f*ck course of action.

As for the rest of you, with all your shadow theories and burnt grass, you're looking too hard, and in all the wrong places.

The first thing any of you should be doing is doing your homework on traditional alien mythology, their appearences in pop-culture, related information about them.

R* no doubt is made up of those who were around since the 80s and earlier, they draw from 'those' experiences of fiction, not modern alien theories.

Look at those FIB UFOs for Christ sakes, they're retro as f*ck.
Think past, not present.

 

 

The mural is there from the start, the X's are there aswell. Maybe the X's needs to be changed to tick's. Who knows. Maybe the mural is nothing. Maybe we need to play all the other missions aswell, I mean doing all the heist two times, with both choices. I went to Fort Zancudo yesterday with god mode and no wanted on, I blew up all the aircrafts, vehicles and killed all the people. I held the guy in the tower at gun point, NOTHING HAPPENED. The green lights from the UFO were there, I stood under it, nothing. I got a buzzard that had respawend and flew right up and guess what, nothing. Except the annoying UFO screaming sound. I'm willing to explore the ocean, as I have a no water mod but it's hard to drive there, almost everything needs to be done on foot. Later today I will try the no clip thing but my hopes are gone and I think there is nothing there or we need hints from R* or a R* employee.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:43 AM

 

That tree sticks out like a sore thumb only at night.. thought that was interesting.. but im still looking around the area.

There are a bunch of those trees by the Humane Labs and Research facility, not unique. they are a type of tree from where the game makers or one of their offices are from iirc, so it's likely they put it in the game.

 

 

The only 'weird' thing I found at the Humane Labs are the two garage doors that open, you can drive in it but there is nothing usefull or weird when you are inside. You can hide from the cops but as soon as you come out, you get four stars. I have pictures of it, I will show you later today.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:48 AM


I'am playing and at 100% to test theories. However I should mention that I haven't used a cheat nor do I plan to so i cant make it rain on command and what not, but any other theory im down to test. Im just climbing up and falling off of the invisible ladder at the powerstation over and over again because im bored lol.

I think that not using cheats is essential but I'm not sure if that is a popular opinion on this forum.  May be one reason this hasn't gone anywhere in such a long time...everyone is using cheats to change the weather.

I dunno.man, having the UFOs only appear at certain times and during certain weather, we know for a fact that easter eggs don't grant you acheivements, so why would R* assume that we 'wouldn't' use the cheats that they gave us to solve a mystery meant for the player.

I've seen a few people suggest that we need to view this as civilians or characters in the game, I think this couldn't be more wrong, the appearences of the UFOs breaks the fourth wall, especially the Zancudo one.

The characters don't even acknoeledge the existence or prescence of these objects when they are right there.
And in this game, you'll notice the characters react to almost 'everything' in game.

So, if the mystery is not only for players, but also players who are net savy, then why not assume the use of cheats.

How often does it rain at 3am in the game?
Not very...

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:54 AM


 


That tree sticks out like a sore thumb only at night.. thought that was interesting.. but im still looking around the area.

There are a bunch of those trees by the Humane Labs and Research facility, not unique. they are a type of tree from where the game makers or one of their offices are from iirc, so it's likely they put it in the game.
 
 
The only 'weird' thing I found at the Humane Labs are the two garage doors that open, you can drive in it but there is nothing usefull or weird when you are inside. You can hide from the cops but as soon as you come out, you get four stars. I have pictures of it, I will show you later today.
Wait, you mean the IAA facility from the "Monkey Business" mission?
How the hell did you get them to do that?
They've never opened for me, I even remote mine'd them, also, i've checked the place top to bottom, I think the only way 'inside' is the water access tunnel, just need to find the damn thing, wish I paid more attention during these missions hahaha.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 05:57 AM

 

 

 

That tree sticks out like a sore thumb only at night.. thought that was interesting.. but im still looking around the area.

There are a bunch of those trees by the Humane Labs and Research facility, not unique. they are a type of tree from where the game makers or one of their offices are from iirc, so it's likely they put it in the game.
 
 
The only 'weird' thing I found at the Humane Labs are the two garage doors that open, you can drive in it but there is nothing usefull or weird when you are inside. You can hide from the cops but as soon as you come out, you get four stars. I have pictures of it, I will show you later today.
Wait, you mean the IAA facility from the "Monkey Business" mission?
How the hell did you get them to do that?
They've never opened for me, I even remote mine'd them, also, i've checked the place top to bottom, I think the only way 'inside' is the water access tunnel, just need to find the damn thing, wish I paid more attention during these missions hahaha.

 

 

I will post pictures later, but you can enter the garages but that's it. You can't get into the lab itself, This is because those interiors are mission based and are loaded on the spot. This is the case with all the interiors, that's why no clip is useless BUT I can no clip with saving the trigger (that's what someone told me) so in theory I can no clip and still activate the interior. Maybe I will find the jetpack or something else, we still don't know how to trigger it but alteast we know it's there. I went to the hatch/gate that made you enter the Humane Lab, there is a gate but I can no clip through it probably and the tunnel is still there so who knows what it will bring.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 06:07 AM

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This looks like the PENRIS building and the one building with the pyramid and red light on top

From what I read is that these are old. But maybe Rockstar made those buildings with these as reference.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 06:27 AM Edited by Snipey, 24 October 2013 - 06:30 AM.

Has anyone been searching the southern parts of the map besides the ufo sightings and glyphs the city has way more conspiracy related stuff most seems to be real life conspiracy related like the building that i believe morphs blidenberg with the sachs brothers, theres the all seeing eye repeated multiple times in various locations,FIB headquarters and various intresting land marks and theres also this which seems to be quite significant http://socialclub.ro...S_kGaS0KLHMFP8w

has anyone managed to read the white letters in the drawing ?Something with : Ca if you @ impossible RE things the rest i cant make out

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 06:34 AM

Has anyone been searching the southern parts of the map besides the ufo sightings and glyphs the city has way more conspiracy related stuff most seems to be real life conspiracy related like the building that i believe morphs blidenberg with the sachs brothers, theres the all seeing eye repeated multiple times in various locations,FIB headquarters and various intresting land marks and theres also this which seems to be quite significant http://socialclub.ro...S_kGaS0KLHMFP8w

has anyone managed to read the white letters in the drawing ?Something with : Ca if you @ impossible RE things the rest i cant make out
it also mentions something like: with all .... Areas (realy interesting)

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 06:54 AM

 

 

I'am playing and at 100% to test theories. However I should mention that I haven't used a cheat nor do I plan to so i cant make it rain on command and what not, but any other theory im down to test. Im just climbing up and falling off of the invisible ladder at the powerstation over and over again because im bored lol.

I think that not using cheats is essential but I'm not sure if that is a popular opinion on this forum.  May be one reason this hasn't gone anywhere in such a long time...everyone is using cheats to change the weather.

I dunno.man, having the UFOs only appear at certain times and during certain weather, we know for a fact that easter eggs don't grant you acheivements, so why would R* assume that we 'wouldn't' use the cheats that they gave us to solve a mystery meant for the player.

I've seen a few people suggest that we need to view this as civilians or characters in the game, I think this couldn't be more wrong, the appearences of the UFOs breaks the fourth wall, especially the Zancudo one.

The characters don't even acknoeledge the existence or prescence of these objects when they are right there.
And in this game, you'll notice the characters react to almost 'everything' in game.

So, if the mystery is not only for players, but also players who are net savy, then why not assume the use of cheats.

How often does it rain at 3am in the game?
Not very...

 

Just my opinion.  Could be a sequence of events that lead up to trigger the rain and doing something at the chilead ufo could be the last step of the easter egg for all we know.  Not sure how likely this is but its not like we are all that close to getting this figured out.  There has to be some order to it at some point and a chain of events.  The main reason I think that cheats are hurting progress is because there hasn't really been any new discoveries and everyone is using cheats for the most part.  Might be stopping the sequence of events right then and there for all we know.  Would it really surprise you if when this is all figured out we learned that cheats weren't playing nice with the easter egg? 

 

This is also a stretch and I don't know the ins and outs of the epsilon stuff but I scanned through the tracts which can be found at the link below(found on reddit).  It mentions becoming "unsavable" numerous times, and that is a pretty big trend with gta series.  If you ever wanted to reach 100%, don't use cheats and save your game.  Cheats may very well be allowed, not much way of knowing at the moment though.  It just wouldn't be very wise to completely ignore this, it would result in an awful lot of wasted time if it turned out to be true, which is not far fetched at all.

 

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 07:39 AM


 

 

 

That tree sticks out like a sore thumb only at night.. thought that was interesting.. but im still looking around the area.

There are a bunch of those trees by the Humane Labs and Research facility, not unique. they are a type of tree from where the game makers or one of their offices are from iirc, so it's likely they put it in the game.
 
 
The only 'weird' thing I found at the Humane Labs are the two garage doors that open, you can drive in it but there is nothing usefull or weird when you are inside. You can hide from the cops but as soon as you come out, you get four stars. I have pictures of it, I will show you later today.
Wait, you mean the IAA facility from the "Monkey Business" mission?
How the hell did you get them to do that?
They've never opened for me, I even remote mine'd them, also, i've checked the place top to bottom, I think the only way 'inside' is the water access tunnel, just need to find the damn thing, wish I paid more attention during these missions hahaha.
 
 
I will post pictures later, but you can enter the garages but that's it. You can't get into the lab itself, This is because those interiors are mission based and are loaded on the spot. This is the case with all the interiors, that's why no clip is useless BUT I can no clip with saving the trigger (that's what someone told me) so in theory I can no clip and still activate the interior. Maybe I will find the jetpack or something else, we still don't know how to trigger it but alteast we know it's there. I went to the hatch/gate that made you enter the Humane Lab, there is a gate but I can no clip through it probably and the tunnel is still there so who knows what it will bring.

Oh hush


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 07:55 AM

As an aside, Ive began to notice that some tress (very few mind), are burnt/ completely bare, whilst all other trees around them arnt. I found such tree in the alamo see near the dock near the space crash site.


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:01 AM

As an aside, Ive began to notice that some tress (very few mind), are burnt/ completely bare, whilst all other trees around them arnt. I found such tree in the alamo see near the dock near the space crash site.



I too took notice of completely burnt/bare tree's around Mt San Chianski and Mt Gordo. Probably nothing though.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:24 AM

Forwards and backwards, backwards and forwards, round and round in circles!
Nothing knew to go on then I see! Many people posting stuff thats been done over and over again! Its clear that where we started is key to solving and is no doubt the answer! The gyphs! How on earth did we get sidetracked eh!
There has to be more ufos! We know Only one condition needs to me met so far to spawn the chilliad ufo yet the fz and the ss ones will spawn any time of day! im still not ruling out the submerged ufo! Could be a condition on that we need to figure! Its on kind of a cliff under water and one of the glyphs has like a building under it!

The glyphs and the ufos I believe is all we need to stick too! Lets not get sidetracked with crazy stuff!

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 08:40 AM

We need some more clues! Where's that shaft man when we need him? Even tho I followed his last clue but couldn't find anything.....except the helicopter flies in a eye shape from the vinewood signs down to the amphitheater

Hey,

I also followed this clue.

Here is the map  of its movements http://imgur.com/MIbL9QW

I see 2 strange things here :

1/ the pattern is obviously meaningfull. The part over the Vinewood sign is too scripted for it not to be.

2/ It makes a little stop over the amphitheater, here : http://imgur.com/AOf173S What is strange about this place is that you can, from here, see everywhere the chopper goes. It may be the correct way to look at it, I'm not sure.

Another thing that struck me is that I wasn't able to see it every time I got there. Especialy, I never saw it from the air while in SP. It may only fly if you are (or someone is) on foot, cause I saw it every time on MP.

 

Don't know if this is valid, the clue is legit, or anything, but this chopper seems relevant to me.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 09:00 AM Edited by Benjamoose, 24 October 2013 - 09:06 AM.

R* no doubt is made up of those who were around since the 80s and earlier, they draw from 'those' experiences of fiction, not modern alien theories.


Look at those FIB UFOs for Christ sakes, they're retro as f*ck.
Think past, not present.

 

In my opinion their age has little to do with the style chosen for the main FIB UFO models.

The stereotypical UFO design comes from classic 1950s/1960s science fiction.

Assuming at the youngest they were around 15, and you choose the later of the two decades, that would make the developers around 60 years old, which is incredibly unlikely.

They chose those designs because they're the first thing people think of when they think of a UFO stereotype. That and they're pretending they're part of a government conspiracy (the FIB logos), which ties in to people's paranoias in real life as to what UFOs look like.

The only 80s influence I see somewhat related to the UFOs are the alien models. They're clearly influenced by the Alien movie series due to their elongated heads.

Besides, who's discussing modern alien theories?


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 10:06 AM

Forwards and backwards, backwards and forwards, round and round in circles!
Nothing knew to go on then I see! Many people posting stuff thats been done over and over again! Its clear that where we started is key to solving and is no doubt the answer! The gyphs! How on earth did we get sidetracked eh!
There has to be more ufos! We know Only one condition needs to me met so far to spawn the chilliad ufo yet the fz and the ss ones will spawn any time of day! im still not ruling out the submerged ufo! Could be a condition on that we need to figure! Its on kind of a cliff under water and one of the glyphs has like a building under it!
The glyphs and the ufos I believe is all we need to stick too! Lets not get sidetracked with crazy stuff!


You may be onto something. I'm gonna get my Sub, and check all along the sea wall that the Sunken UFO in on. Maybe we are supposed to line it up with that "mountain"? Worth a shot.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 10:09 AM

As an aside, Ive began to notice that some tress (very few mind), are burnt/ completely bare, whilst all other trees around them arnt. I found such tree in the alamo see near the dock near the space crash site.


I too took notice of completely burnt/bare tree's around Mt San Chianski and Mt Gordo. Probably nothing though.

I believe I saw one near the Lighthouse. And near the small water hole on Mt. gordo I believe, which I found very strange because it was the tree right next to the water. If any tree should have been lively and fresh, it was that one. Hmmmm.

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 10:23 AM Edited by robosonic, 24 October 2013 - 10:26 AM.

hey guys.

 

 

maybe the bottom LEFT box is the top of the mount chillad (because of the UFO that appears at 03.00 am)

could anyone do an overlay with that???

 

maybe the whole outlines of the mural shouldnt represent the mountain, they also could represent roads or stuff like that?

what do you think


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 10:24 AM

Also we shouldn't rule out the face glyph

 

http://socialclub.ro...-Vk-aaLbzmOQqPg

 

I swear that looks like Fran Healy from Travis.

 

A 'Scottish' band who released an album called 'Where you Stand' and a hit song called 'Why does it always Rain on me'...

some of this game was developed in Scotland , there was complains because they named a place in the game after a Scottish village


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Posted 24 October 2013 - 10:29 AM

The sunken ufo must play a part alabamafatts!
And good idea you have there

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 10:33 AM

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I think the top right glyph is the water tower in the hippie camp it has an all seeing eye on it also the zig zags going up there are stairs in the middle of the tower going up 4 sets like the zig zags on the glyph .middle right half moon raining bottom right mayb son setting in the sea you can see the see from the tower just an idea

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Posted 24 October 2013 - 10:58 AM Edited by mahoke, 24 October 2013 - 11:03 AM.

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