Why do people constantly feel the need to go at each others' throats when it comes to driving and come across as condescending douchebags about it? It's all based on subjectivity.
I loved GTA IV's driving, but I've come to accept GTA V's for what it is. It's quite fun for this big map, but I cringe whenever someone says "you musn't drive in real life" whenever it's for or against either driving style.
I've had my licence for 10 years and have probably driven more types of vehicles than most people on this forum and I wouldn't say either is all that realistic because they're VIDEO GAMES. Not simulators.
I'd probably give GTA IV the slight upperhand because I'm more used to it and I like its heavy feel, but whatever floats your boat. The way people argue about subjective matter makes me lose hope there are those that still have the ability to accept others have different tastes to them.
It's been getting worse and worse with every passing year I've been here.
You're right. On ever front man. From an experiential standpoint, as well when it comes to the driving. I came here to retract my post. I don't want that kind sh*t said to me, he doesn't want to hear it either, so I won't say that kind of stuff to him.
It's just that he has posted this and attacked people who are let down by the game being made "fun and responsive" aka "no skill gameplay", and that I am sure is what gets under people's feathers, it's what gets under mine.
It's one thing to make vent threads about disappointments in the game, it's an okay thing, it's totally normal and respectable.
I really can't respect people who make threads for the sole purpose to defend a game they did not create and do not really understand/must not be very good at, while they bash all of the people who have loved watching it grow up over the years and now feel like many apects have had to be toned down or stepped back from to support the massive expanse of the scope of the game compared to the more focused GTA IV.
You know, a lot of things were improved from III, to SA. But a lot of things were dumbed down, too. It would be more fair to use the term "optimized" - if you can get roughly the same thing from 1/10ms as you used to get in 1ms, you do that. As an example I mean. So I understand.
I also understand Rockstar's urge to squeeze the absolute most as they possibly can under the restraints of these consoles, because for the first time, the market (PC and consoles) is basically ready to support their tech and style of scene management as the norm for gaming, I can see why it's imperative they respect these constraints one last time and give the absolute push that they can, but it really did cost a lot of things from IV.
And a lot of things from GTA.
I on one hand welcome all the change.
On the other hand: http://gtaforums.com...o-much-strauss/
I listed things there, but that was all visual, that was all before the game came out, it was before anyone got their hands on it.
This is what 5 years and "this much change" causes - distaste in loyal fanbase.
The OP is operating like a fanboy coming after everyone else though, and not respecting their opinions. His love for the game is above his respect for fellow gamer.
I am often involved in console vs pc discussions for example. People often call me an elitist etc. It does not take an elitist to say a brand new car is better than one that is 8 years old. It takes elitists, in fact, to say that a console is more than a low end locked down computer for people who lack basic understanding of technology and need their hand held.
Does that sh*t sound harsh? It shouldn't - it's the truth, it's written about all over the web, it's written in news, it's "the easier way to game, without all the so called hassle" - marketing tricks people to think they themselves are too dumb to use a PC, they use consoles, and they THEMSELVES feel inferior, so they call PC gamers elitists for knowing that Ferrari is a better make than Pinto.
This thread is the simile to that kind of thing, the "x is to y as z is to a" type comparison.
One type attacks people, another type expresses distaste for the weakeness of a product. In the case of my abstract console/pc example, fanboys attack those who they tell themselves are smarter than them because they let the media tell them we are smarter than them when we're not and pc gaming is cheaper and easier - likewise, in the case of this thread, this dude is sh*tting on legitimate complaints that may be subjective, they are usually well rounded complaints, while the people he does attack, are merely expressing distaste for something they can tell is not the same as it was 5 years ago at all.
Can I get a f*ck yea?
That's why I wrote what I wrote, but the respectolution thread in network support is the reason I retracted it. You inspire me to share this though.
Edited by brian., 26 September 2013 - 05:41 AM.