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GTA VI set in San Fierro and Las Venturas during the 70's

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 03:01 PM

Just want to know if any of you guys would be interested in playing if GTA was set during the 70's.

I think it'd be awesome as the mafia's involvement in Las Vegas were at an all time high during the 70's and a lot was also going down in San Franciso. There need to be more GTA's set in the past as there is a lot of potential there

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Posted 24 September 2013 - 03:35 PM

I don't like San Fierro. But for sure I'd love a GTA Las Venturas in the 1970s.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 03:38 PM

I would like to see game set during that period, but with recent R* interest in internet and cellphones it may end as a dream.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 04:24 PM

As great as Las Venturas was, if they do make a 70's based GTA game it should be in the San Francisco bay area/Northern California. But hell, throw in LV and I won't be disatisfied.
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Posted 24 September 2013 - 08:38 PM

I Just prefer modern day settings. Lets just go to Vice City and finish the subject.


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Posted 25 September 2013 - 12:45 AM

Or Vegas during a modern day setting seeing as The Strip wouldn't be as spectacular during the 70s and most buildings wouldn't be there.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 01:44 PM

After reading the Grand Theft Auto Las Venturas concept thread I'm going to bump this.

In all honesty I think that the next GTA, or one amazing one in the future should combine both SF and LV in the 70's. With both of them not being a part of V's Southern San Andreas, and both being in their heydays in the 70's I think that the idea should be pursued.

I couldn't give half a f*ck about cell phones and the internet, I just think that Rockstar has really missed a ripe opportunity with the 70's in the GTA series.
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Posted 10 February 2014 - 02:31 PM

I don't think they could combine San Fierro and Las Venturas on the same map because they are very far away form each other in real life. They could be in the same game, but on a separeted map.

 

Also, I don't think there is anything to do with Las Venturas in the 70s. The city was not as famous then.


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Posted 10 February 2014 - 04:24 PM

I would prefer if R* make the next few games stand alone cities, rather than combining to cities like San Fierro and Las Venturas. As I cant help but feel that both cities wouldn't be utilised to its full potential if you try and fit two cities into one game.


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Posted 13 February 2014 - 12:41 AM Edited by Blennerville, 13 February 2014 - 01:15 AM.

Just want to know if any of you guys would be interested in playing if GTA was set during the 70's.

I think it'd be awesome as the mafia's involvement in Las Vegas were at an all time high during the 70's and a lot was also going down in San Franciso. There need to be more GTA's set in the past as there is a lot of potential there

 

You took the ideas right out of my head (i just created my acount to post this idea LOL).

Late 70's in San Fran and Vegas would be cool - (they were like Miami in the 80's). Driver did that 70's car chase vibe well imo, GTA would need to capture that 70's Cops vibe.

San Fran would be like a Dirty Harry and 48 hours(in was released in the 80's, but still) feeling and Vegas could capture that Casino and Godfather feeling.

 

I do believe both cities would need to be in the one map/game for it to work. I dont think there is enough in either city for them to stand alone, Vegas is quite a boring City really and definitely could be a location for a single city game, San Francisco could possibly get away with it if you really tried but even San Fran doesnt have as much happening in it as LA or New York or Miami(in the 80's), could run the risk of not having enough to offer, and it would also be a waste when using the 70's not to do both cities.

 

 

I would also love some LA in the 80's at some point to get that Live and Die in LA feeling - I was very disapointed with the atmosphere of Los Santos in GTA5 it doesnt have any vibe to it at all with the modern setting - it feels so dull, boring and life-less and the map of the City is bad imo, it is just too small and is missing a lot of that LA feeling, I was expecting much more than what we got.

GTA SA had that 90's LA down vibe, the really should have set 5 in the 80's.

 

I feel setting a game in the past allows R* to create a better mood - VC in the 80's, SA in the 90's. When they go modern they loose something and there is no distinctive vibe to the city, when you set it in the past it is much easier to set a vibe and atmosphere of the world (i.e. Gta5 lack of any vibe). Also pay-phones are much better than Mobile/cell phones.

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Posted 13 February 2014 - 01:04 AM

I actually created a concept thread set in Las Venturas in 1977.

 

The thing I discovered, during my research for the current rewrite of the story, is that the Mafia were actually at their weakest at the end of the 70s/early 80s. A change in local laws in the 1960s backed by millionaire eccentric Howard Hughes allowed corporations to purchase and operate casinos, thus ending the mob's long rule of Las Vegas. Hughes moved into the Desert Inn and when asked to leave, bought the hotel outright and 16 other casinos with it.

 

Most of Howard Hughes casinos failed to make any money though and he sold up four years later. The Mafia made an attempt to move back in, but not in the big way that they had done in the 1940s/50s. Through granting loans from the Central Teamsters Union Pension Fund (which they essentially had control over) they managed to muscle their way into many "legitimate" casino enterprises, skimming money off the top before it was counted. The days of the Mafia owning casinos outright was over and they simply acted from the shadows. Running casinos through proxies while turning their attention to other ventures.

 

In the early 1980s the FBI launched a massive operation to "clean-up" Las Vegas, arresting people with links to organised crime and forcing them to sell their casinos. This marked the end of an era in Vegas and with it came the first "megaresorts" and the transformation of Vegas into a family-friendly holiday destination.

 

I think a GTA game set in Las Venturas in the 1970s would be brilliant, but I think it needs to reflect the truth of the time. It was a difficult period for the mafia bosses and I think any game should represent the gritty underbelly of Las Venturas at the time. While there would still be the glitz and glamour of Venturas it would also be accompanied by this idea of impending doom, that the end is just round the corner and you're fighting to survive in a world out to destroy you.

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Posted 15 February 2014 - 11:29 AM

You took the ideas right out of my head (i just created my acount to post this idea LOL).

Late 70's in San Fran and Vegas would be cool - (they were like Miami in the 80's). Driver did that 70's car chase vibe well imo, GTA would need to capture that 70's Cops vibe.

San Fran would be like a Dirty Harry and 48 hours(in was released in the 80's, but still) feeling and Vegas could capture that Casino and Godfather feeling.

 

I do believe both cities would need to be in the one map/game for it to work. I dont think there is enough in either city for them to stand alone, Vegas is quite a boring City really and definitely could be a location for a single city game, San Francisco could possibly get away with it if you really tried but even San Fran doesnt have as much happening in it as LA or New York or Miami(in the 80's), could run the risk of not having enough to offer, and it would also be a waste when using the 70's not to do both cities.

 

 

I would also love some LA in the 80's at some point to get that Live and Die in LA feeling - I was very disapointed with the atmosphere of Los Santos in GTA5 it doesnt have any vibe to it at all with the modern setting - it feels so dull, boring and life-less and the map of the City is bad imo, it is just too small and is missing a lot of that LA feeling, I was expecting much more than what we got.

GTA SA had that 90's LA down vibe, the really should have set 5 in the 80's.

 

I feel setting a game in the past allows R* to create a better mood - VC in the 80's, SA in the 90's. When they go modern they loose something and there is no distinctive vibe to the city, when you set it in the past it is much easier to set a vibe and atmosphere of the world (i.e. Gta5 lack of any vibe). Also pay-phones are much better than Mobile/cell phones.

 

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Both cities could stand alone as settings in their own right as part of bigger maps. There's plenty of diversity to each area to encapsulate the appropriate feeling without skewing it between cities. I wouldn't fancy a huge land mass with Frisco being the main attraction in the west, Vegas to the south. Not that I'd turn my nose up at it mind you.

 

San Francisco had a hell of a disco scene through the late 70s going into the early 80s. Then there was the huge gay scene centered in the Castro, its decline with the AIDS epidemic. A huge boom in construction. The huge increase in homeless after the state closed mental institutions. No question about it the best time period for an SF game is the 70s, but I wouldn't rule out revisiting it in the 80s to expand the story of that game. It screams excess and debauchery.


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 12:07 AM Edited by Blennerville, 20 February 2014 - 12:19 AM.

Thanks for the welcome, seems like a great community.

 

My only concern is that having Vegas as a single city on a map (i.e. without San Fran) could turn out to be a very boring city environment. The story missions could be good, but when just free-roaming around the city it would get boring very fast, also what else could the city itself offer to story missions other than Casinos and Mob related stuff, it doesnt really have anything else.

 

Even in reality Las Vegas is a very boring city, that has Casinos. It is so flat and lacks diversity, it is all the same, other than The Strip of course - its just grids of houses and one story buildings.

Compared to other Cities it just doesnt offer any variety and it is also small.

 

 

The cities are by far the most important aspect to a GTA map (yet i preferred Trevors area much more in GTA5, Los Santos was quite dull)

imo the only way Vegas could work in a GTA map is if another City like San Fran was also on the same map.

 

I wouldnt have any worried that having both of those cities together in one map could detract from either of the individual cities or surroundings.

San Francisco would require the main focus but that is just because Vegas would be so easy to do by comparison (its just a big square divided into grids and The Strip). Vegas would be the same city regardless of wheather it on its own as the single city or if San Fran was also on the map - there just isnt that much to Vegas to recreate, its easy (just The Strip, and the rest is just grids) compared to LA for example where R* couldnt include/recreate all the areas of the city.

Also Id imagive it would be quite a bit easier for R* to do both the desert environment and the forrest/Countryside now after GTA5 covered both of them areas.

 

I wouldnt mind San Fierro as a single city as long as it would be a lot!! larger and better than Los Santos was in GTA5 (i was very dissappointed with it from the moment the map leaked) but I just dont think I could be happy with just Las Venturas on its own, it would have to have San Fierro to support it, especially when doing the 70'd period as they probably wouldnt do it again - it would be a missed opportunity, and a huge one at that imo.

 

I think the map would work great with both areas - have a small town (like Reno or Carson City) to the nort east of San Fierro with a few inter-connected Lakes near it, have rivers running out of them - some west to San Fiero, the largest river flowing under Golden Gate Bridge. Have another large river out of one of the lakes that flows down South east near Las Venturas to form another lake - i.e. Lake Mead and the Hoover dam from where it then flows west and enters the ocean to the south of San Fierro - Have the Grand Canyon at some point along it. Then the main motorway and lots of secondary roads - I want lots of them long straight desert roads so you can recreate movies like Vanishing Point.

Would be great with multiple characters, 2 would be a good number - one in each area and divide up the stroy nicely between both areas.

Thats my view of what it should be anyways

 

 

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Posted 20 February 2014 - 01:09 AM

Thanks for the welcome, seems like a great community.

 

My only concern is that having Vegas as a single city on a map (i.e. without San Fran) could turn out to be a very boring city environment. The story missions could be good, but when just free-roaming around the city it would get boring very fast, also what else could the city itself offer to story missions other than Casinos and Mob related stuff, it doesnt really have anything else.

 

Even in reality Las Vegas is a very boring city, that has Casinos. It is so flat and lacks diversity, it is all the same, other than The Strip of course - its just grids of houses and one story buildings.

Compared to other Cities it just doesnt offer any variety and it is also small.

 

The way I over came this problem, when I was creating my Las Venturas concept thread (which is set in 1977) was to include Las Vegas and the rest of Clark County. So not only did you have Las Vegas and the Strip, but you have Boulder City and Hoover Dam; Charleston Peak; Lake Mead; Mequite, Underton, Logandale and Moapa to the north; Henderson and Searchlight to the south. I also included Area 51 and the Nevada Test Site. Overall I think it would make for a varied and interesting map, and opens up the possibility to more than just casinos and mobsters like you mentioned!


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Posted 20 February 2014 - 06:06 PM

 

Thanks for the welcome, seems like a great community.

 

My only concern is that having Vegas as a single city on a map (i.e. without San Fran) could turn out to be a very boring city environment. The story missions could be good, but when just free-roaming around the city it would get boring very fast, also what else could the city itself offer to story missions other than Casinos and Mob related stuff, it doesnt really have anything else.

 

Even in reality Las Vegas is a very boring city, that has Casinos. It is so flat and lacks diversity, it is all the same, other than The Strip of course - its just grids of houses and one story buildings.

Compared to other Cities it just doesnt offer any variety and it is also small.

 

The way I over came this problem, when I was creating my Las Venturas concept thread (which is set in 1977) was to include Las Vegas and the rest of Clark County. So not only did you have Las Vegas and the Strip, but you have Boulder City and Hoover Dam; Charleston Peak; Lake Mead; Mequite, Underton, Logandale and Moapa to the north; Henderson and Searchlight to the south. I also included Area 51 and the Nevada Test Site. Overall I think it would make for a varied and interesting map, and opens up the possibility to more than just casinos and mobsters like you mentioned!

 

 

Throw in San Fierro and im in :santa:, otherwise it would be a missed opportunity imo - they are both next to each other and work great in the 70's.

I still think a Nevada map on its own would be boring and lacking variety, all its towns and cities are meh!! to me - it could alienate a large group of people who dont like the desert setting so much - needs some more diversity.

i dont see how both San Fierro and Las Ventural together could not be better than Nevada on its own.


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Posted 21 February 2014 - 12:39 AM

I do somewhat agree with Blenneville here, I can't see Las Venturas and Nevada working well on it's own, the city itself seems boring and the desert seems boring. I think it could work well however when combined with San Fierro.

That said however San Fierro and Northern California really does deserve it's own game to be done properly. Especially when you think of how f*cking terrible North Cali was done in San Andreas.

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Posted 21 February 2014 - 12:52 AM

I wouldn't mind a setting set in the 70s, but at the same time, I would like to see a modern recreation of the city, wherever it is. Either or.


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Posted 22 February 2014 - 06:59 PM

I wouldn't mind a setting set in the 70s, but at the same time, I would like to see a modern recreation of the city, wherever it is. Either or.

 

Stand alone DLC episode could show them in present times.





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