GTA 4's handling seemed more reminiscent of boat handling - it was fun at the time, but loose and a bit wacky, like driving on a planet with less gravity than Earth. The point many of you seem to miss is that this is a game designed to be fun, it is NOT a driving simulator.
Many of you even go so far as to compare real-life car models to the cars in the game they are very loosely based on, and then criticize the game for not creating an accurate representation of the car they represent, as if they were the same thing. A Coquette is NOT the same thing as a Corvette. The cars are NOT carbon copies of the original, its part of the artistic license Rockstar has chosen- many cars have similar chassis designs and similar handling and power characteristics, but it is by no means designed to be a simulator of those cars.
Anyone looking for amazing driving physics, you are playing the wrong game. Check out GTA 5, and buy yourself a steering wheel. I did that back in the day on PS2 with Gran Turismo 2, got the good wheel with force feedback and everything, and it was an amazing experience, even back then. I can't imagine how awesome it would be with a new wheel and with the new GT. I have never even played GT5. I heard 6 is coming out for PS3/360 for some reason instead of the new-gen consoles, but I might be wrong on that.
The boat argument is really getting tiresome.
Have you not seen videos of heavy vehicles trying to steer into a corner at high speeds. There is no doubt excessive body roll. Yes, I will admit that quite a few cars had excessive body roll in IV like the Huntley, Super GT, Sabre(80s one), and a few others. But the rest of the cars had reasonable body roll. And other than the body roll, it was not hard to steer unless you had been driving in NFS or San Andreas all of the damn time with no skill whatsoever.
Now moving on to your second point. No sh*t sherlock, the cars in V are not carbon copies of real cars. And nobody here has been saying that. The cars in IV looked remarkably similar to their real life counterparts and most of them drove similar to their real life counterparts. Don't believe me? Here are some examples and if you don't believe them then play the damn game and actually test out their handling rather than driving like a mindless douche:
- Turismo: looks like a 360 Modena and drives like it too. Its steering is light and precise and enjoyable. The brakes are excellent albeit they bite a bit. The car goes wherever you point it but with great feedback. It is easy to control whilst it is slipping and sliding and if you are an excellent driver, you can drive like a nut without crashing without intention to crash
- Super GT: It looks like a swoopy Aston Martin and it handles like a grand touring car. It can go fast but it wants to drive slow. It is not for the track, it is for long distance spirited drives
- Cognoscenti: it looks like a 62 S and a Flying Spur and it is more luxury based. It has a potent engine that launches the car from 0-60 in probably under 5 seconds and when you steer at high speeds it'll allow a lot of slipping. Its suspension smooths out most of the bumps in the road and the steering is a bit numb and laid back.
- Hakumai: it looks like a 90s Accord and with FWD it drives similar. The suspension is firm and hard and it can be fun to throw around or go on a road trip in
Etc, you get what I am saying. No sh*t the game is not a simulator but the cars in V should feel distinct and a little bit believable at least. But they don't. And fun does not mean "unrealistic" for everybody so don't just automatically think that realism or semi-realism = not fun. That is bullsh*t.
Now onto your next point... I am not looking for a simulator. I am looking for an open world game with fun physics. IV was one of them and for f*cks sake that did not have realistic physics, they were sophisticated but not overly realistic. V doesn't give me fun physics. It gives me what I find cheap, numb, and rubbish looking physics that look like they were dumbed down for those that like to blow sh*t up and drive like idiots 24/7. It feels like only steering, gas, and breaking exist. No understeer, no oversteer, no personality, just nothing.