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Posted 16 September 2013 - 10:21 PM Edited by Cyfun, 19 September 2013 - 10:27 PM.

Post your stock tips here!  I'm sure the way stocks are calculated varies from game to game, but I wanted to at least get a list of mission-related stock value spikes and drops. I'll try to update this post with any good info.

 

Also seeking information on just how the heck the market works, how to attack a company to drive their stock down and their competitor's up, etc.

 

BAWSAQ never wants to work for me, so anyone with info on it is encouraged to share!

 

Keep an eye on the GTA Interactive Map for locations relevant to companies and their stocks.

 

 

List of LCN stocks:

  • ARK AnimalArk
  • AUG AuguryInsurance
  • BAN CoolBeans
  • BEN BeanMachine
  • BGR BurgerShot
  • BIL Bilkington
  • BOL BankOfLiberty
  • BOM BobMulét
  • BUL Bullhead
  • CLK CluckinBell
  • DEB Debonaire
  • DOP DollarPills
  • ECL eCola
  • EMU AirEmu
  • FLC Fleeca
  • FUS FlyUS
  • GAS GastroBand
  • GCD GoldCoast
  • GOP GoPostal
  • GRU GruppeSechs
  • HAF Hammerstein&Faust
  • HKJ Hijak
  • KRP Krapea
  • LFI Lifeinvader
  • LOG Logger
  • MAX MaxRenda
  • MAZ MazeBank
  • MER Merryweather
  • MOR MorsMutualInsurance
  • POP PostOP
  • PRO ProLaps
  • RAI Raine
  • RIM RichardsMajestic
  • RLS RadioLosSantos
  • RWC Redwood
  • SSS Slaughter,Slaughter&Slaughter
  • TBO TacoBomb
  • UNI VanillaUnicorn
  • UPA Up-n-Atom
  • VAG Vangelico
  • WFM WorldwideFM

 

 

Mission-related tips:

Note: prices apparently vary per game

 

Vangelico heist:

Sell anything you have invested in them before this.  Afterward, wait til it bottoms out around $35/share before buying any.  Not sure if there's a competing gem company to invest in before-hand, didn't see one.

 

LifeInvader (prototype swap mission):

Sell anything you've invested in them before this mission cause it'll tank badly.  And I wouldn't bother ever investing in them again, as I tried when it bottomed out but it never really recovered.

 

Bilkinton/Betta (Hotel Assassination mission):

Sell anything you have invested in Bilkington. Lester mentions he invested heavily in Betta, but I didn't see them in the LCN. Are they somewhere else?  I also noticed DollarPills tank as well.  Once Bilkington bottoms out after the mission, though (the low for me was around $120/share), feel free to invest in them again as it spikes up again.

 

Redwood/Debonaire (Multi-Assasination mission):

Before you even start this mission, sell anything you have invested in Redwood, and invest everything you've got into Debonaire.  Don't do it during the mission cause there's a tight timer. And be sure and not to forget doing this for ALL THREE CHARACTERS. I was in a hurry and only did it for Franklin. Debonaire's stock will go from about $200 to about $400.  When the mission is over, wait a good few minutes as the stock value will continue to rise.  Mine eventually peaked at $399.42, so go ahead and sell when it gets to that point.

 

Merriweather (Dockyards secret government device mission):

Sell anything you have in Merriweather before this mission as it'll dive a bit.

 

 

 

Other tips:

 

Line graph sucks:

The line graph doesn't seem to be at all accurate. I see it claim that the price was high the previous day, but it was more like a week ago.  And it doesn't seem to accurately update with the current prices.  Better off just looking at the raw numbers, and getting an idea of what is considered high and low for each stock.

 

Destroying competitors:

If you invest in a company and then go wreck their competitor's stuff, it should increase your stock value. For example: Sink money into AirEMU, prefferably when the stock is already low, then go blow up FlyUS planes. Or buy CluckinBell stock and go rob and destroy a few Burgershot stores. Or invest in one car company, then destroy their competitor's cars, preferably at their dealership.  Note: We've been experimenting with this and it doesn't exactly pan out as expected. You can't enter most stores such as Burgershot, and can't find these supposed car dealerships or other company buildings.  And we've spent hours blowing up GoPostal and Pisswasser trucks but never really saw their or their competitor's stock fluctuate. :(

 

Reliable stocks:

I've seen this stocks reliably spike up and down. Invest in them when they're low:

TacoBomb

Fleeca

BankOfLiberty

MazeBank

 

Insurance companies:

Per user iNewWorldOrderi, if you invest money in AUG AugeryInsurance, then go around damaging/destroying cars, it will drive your stock value up.

 

Untested theories:

  • How MorsMutualInsurance relates to you going around killing people.
  • How the various lawfirm stocks are affected by what you do.
  • If the bank stocks drop if you rob their ATM users.
  • If you can make GoPostal, PostOP, and GruppeSechs stock drop by jacking their company trucks.
  • If listening to a radio station's stock makes the value go up, or maybe you can go to the roof of their building and blow up the antenna.

 

 

Any other good tips?

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Posted 16 September 2013 - 11:42 PM Edited by Prometheus, 17 September 2013 - 12:03 AM. Note

HOLY SPOILERS. Seriously, the title should have spoiler tag and the spoilers need to be blacked out.

 

EDIT: Since the game is released, spoiler tags on posts won't be stressed. Only adding "[SPOILERS]" to the TOPIC title will suffice.


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Posted 17 September 2013 - 12:14 AM

Great topic, thanks for the tips, I'll try to come up with some myself once i get the game.


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Posted 17 September 2013 - 01:05 AM

HOLY SPOILERS. Seriously, the title should have spoiler tag and the spoilers need to be blacked out.

 

Apologies mate, but the whole point of a thread on stock tips is to gain advanced notice of game events. That's why I posted in the Cheats and Tricks section instead of the main forum, which is honestly littered with spoilers.  Besides, I only mentioned the titles of missions and stock names..  A spoiler would be stating something revealing to the plot, such as "Trevor f*cks Lazlow."


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Posted 17 September 2013 - 06:21 AM

Here's a tip, don't do what anyone tells you to because that's what everyone else is going to do.


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Posted 17 September 2013 - 05:17 PM

Ive just started Lester missions and about to do the first heist. Can you explain when you get assination missions after that ? Are they optional? or part of the story? I want to save them untill i have alot of money to put down on stocks?.


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Posted 17 September 2013 - 07:40 PM Edited by Cyfun, 19 September 2013 - 04:29 AM.

Ive just started Lester missions and about to do the first heist. Can you explain when you get assination missions after that ? Are they optional? or part of the story? I want to save them untill i have alot of money to put down on stocks?.

 

Excellent question. They come a bit after.  They're with Franklin working for Lester without the others involved.  Pretty sure you've unlocked Trevor at that point.  I'd already blown a bunch of money on stupid properties, so the best tip I can give is to not buy any properties for a while. Honestly haven't seen them as very useful yet, only pulling in maybe $1000 a week doesn't really justify buying them for $100k.  Just do as many of the other missions as you can, try not to waste too much money on gun and car upgrades.

 

 

After the heist mission, takes a while for Lester to sell off the diamonds. But once he does, each character should have a few hundred grand in their accounts.  Should be able to double or triple that with each of those assassination missions.

 

So has anyone else found any good ways to anticipate the market?  I've looked for hints in the game, but mostly it's just about when someone is going to tank, and not when another is going to spike. Seems like most companies don't have many competitors.

 

If anyone has an idea of how to get that one electric car company Hijak's stock to go up, it's always dirt cheap and should yield a pretty good magnification.

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Posted 17 September 2013 - 10:48 PM

Cant you go to the dealership and blow up their cars, I read that somewhere.

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 10:08 AM

Thanks for the tip, made some dough with Debonaire!

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 03:15 PM

another easy way is to invest in AUG (automobile insurance company)

 

then go on a wrecking streak!. the price's will only go up marginally, but its worth it if you're really strapped for cash like i am.

 

 

another tip is the "high - low" stats. if the stock prices are anywhere near the "high" dont invest, if its near low, invest. 

 

the problem with investing according to the high low system is that it "can" backfire still. so dont be putting all your moneyz into 1 investment. 

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 03:17 PM Edited by alexander1888, 18 September 2013 - 03:55 PM.

I just did the Vangelico heist but their stock price didn't go down. I've been checking it every so often but the stock price has barely been changing. I've now finished Trevor's first few missions and he's been reunited with Michael but the price movement and % change haven't moved at all. Any clues on what's going on?


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 04:09 PM

I just did the Vangelico heist but their stock price didn't go down. I've been checking it every so often but the stock price has barely been changing. I've now finished Trevor's first few missions and he's been reunited with Michael but the price movement and % change haven't moved at all. Any clues on what's going on?

That's pretty weird, it should happen immediately.  When you click on the bank's main site, on the right does it give you a few clips of recent stock news? Should mention in there that Vangelico plummeted.  And don't look at the graph, look at the stock price on the right side.  It's not a big deal, cause it's not a great idea to invest in them after the heist anyway. I tried it and the price never really went back up.  But if you're all the way to Trevor, it may have already come and gone.  I wouldn't worry about it, wasn't very profitable. Just wait for Franklin's assassination missions coming soon.

 

 

another easy way is to invest in AUG (automobile insurance company)

 

then go on a wrecking streak!. the price's will only go up marginally, but its worth it if you're really strapped for cash like i am.

 

If you go around causing car accidents, that makes the insurance company's stock go up? Seems backwards, as insurance companies only profit when they have to pay out on FEWER accidents.  I wonder if their stock will go up if you destroy dealership's cars, too.


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 04:13 PM

sounds stupid i know. but it works. "marginally"


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 05:57 PM

 

I just did the Vangelico heist but their stock price didn't go down. I've been checking it every so often but the stock price has barely been changing. I've now finished Trevor's first few missions and he's been reunited with Michael but the price movement and % change haven't moved at all. Any clues on what's going on?

That's pretty weird, it should happen immediately.  When you click on the bank's main site, on the right does it give you a few clips of recent stock news? Should mention in there that Vangelico plummeted.  And don't look at the graph, look at the stock price on the right side.  It's not a big deal, cause it's not a great idea to invest in them after the heist anyway. I tried it and the price never really went back up.  But if you're all the way to Trevor, it may have already come and gone.  I wouldn't worry about it, wasn't very profitable. Just wait for Franklin's assassination missions coming soon.

 

All 3 of the main stories are still about Lifeinvader for some reason. Yeah the stock price has been sitting around 155 this whole time. Don't know when I could have missed the drop. Ok good to hear cheers!


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 06:02 PM

All 3 of the main stories are still about Lifeinvader for some reason. Yeah the stock price has been sitting around 155 this whole time. Don't know when I could have missed the drop. Ok good to hear cheers!

 

 

$155? Jeez, mine's at about $40 and has been no higher than $90 for a long time.


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 07:20 PM

Im on the Hostel assassination mission, and your right i cant find any company called Betta? Has any1 got any idea what to invest in before this mission?

 


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 07:28 PM

What are some good companies to start investing in? I haven't done the 1st heist and only have 2k for Franklin and 7k for Michael


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 07:29 PM Edited by TimFL, 18 September 2013 - 07:29 PM.

Buy AS MANY Tinkle stocks (the mobile phone provider with sh*tty coverage) as you can. It's like $150 in the begin and it skyrockets to around $500 later on. I got that the "insider info" from a random encounter mission (guy from LC told me that I should invest in Tinkle once I dropped him off at the airport). But I CAN'T guarantee that it's the same for you, might be on a game to game basis (the stocks could change, like maybe it's some other company for you).

 

Also, there is a Franklin-Lester mission that is about Vapid shares. Once the mission is over, BUY Vapid shares cause they go up again (they drop heavily after the mission).

 

Don't hold onto Debonaire and BettaPharmaceuticals for too long (ditch BettaP fast, it drops quite a bit after a short while).

 

Fruit stocks go up after the 3rd F-L mission (I think) when I checked they went from $600 something to $700 something.

 

I think Bleeters stock rises after the Lifeinvader mission, don't know for sure though (need confirmation on this).

 

All I can remember so far.

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 07:38 PM

What are some good companies to start investing in? I haven't done the 1st heist and only have 2k for Franklin and 7k for Michael

I'd recommend saving up for the Vangelico drop after the heist.

 

Buy AS MANY Tinkle stocks (the mobile phone provider with sh*tty coverage) as you can. It's like $150 in the begin and it skyrockets to around $500 later on. I got that the "insider info" from a random encounter mission (guy from LC told me that I should invest in Tinkle once I dropped him off at the airport). But I CAN'T guarantee that it's the same for you, might be on a game to game basis (the stocks could change, like maybe it's some other company for you).

 

Also, there is a Franklin-Lester mission that is about Vapid shares. Once the mission is over, BUY Vapid shares cause they go up again (they drop heavily after the mission).

 

Don't hold onto Debonaire and BettaPharmaceuticals for too long (ditch BettaP fast, it drops quite a bit after a short while).

 

Fruit stocks go up after the 3rd F-L mission (I think) when I checked they went from $600 something to $700 something.

 

I think Bleeters stock rises after the Lifeinvader mission, don't know for sure though (need confirmation on this).

 

All I can remember so far.

 

Hm, I don't see those stocks listed. Are those under BAWSAQ?


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 08:10 PM

A few of them are under BAWSAQ


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 08:35 PM

My Bawsaq account says it's down for maintenance, is that just while I'm between certain missions or is that actually Rockstar adding/removing things?  P.S. Thank you Cyfun for all the trading tips so far! 


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 09:10 PM

BAWSAQ is probably down because you don't have your SocialClub account linked, do you?


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 09:13 PM

BAWSAQ is probably down because you don't have your SocialClub account linked, do you?

 

Don't have XBL, my 360's network adapter is borked.  Don't tell me I have to be online to get half the game to work?


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 09:17 PM

I think there is issues with the social club side of the game. Earlier today I was able to buy and sell stocks on bawsaq but this evening when explaining to a family member what to do for the assassination mission it was down for both of us.

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 09:24 PM

Anyone else help a guy get his bike back as Michael and then get a sh*t load of free stock in that animal place? Glad to see good deeds don't always go unrewarded haha.

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 09:26 PM

you need to be online to get bawsaq. but from what i've seen the rates are completely unpredictable. and because you've missed the first 24 hour window. you lucked out like i did. bawsaq is no use to us (most share's being over 1k atm) i havent even bothered looking at it again.

 

then again im still waiting for vangelico shares to drop below 100 


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 09:42 PM

Anyone else help a guy get his bike back as Michael and then get a sh*t load of free stock in that animal place? Glad to see good deeds don't always go unrewarded haha.

Yep!  This is precisely why you should help all the random event folks that you can.  Usually the purse-grabs are pretty useless, but when someone gets their bike or car stolen, those will benefit you later.  Just be sure and sell the stock asap.  When this guy gave me $100k in shares of AnimalArk, I immediately went in to sell it and it'd already dropped to $99,000.

 

you need to be online to get bawsaq. but from what i've seen the rates are completely unpredictable. and because you've missed the first 24 hour window. you lucked out like i did. bawsaq is no use to us (most share's being over 1k atm) i havent even bothered looking at it again.

 

then again im still waiting for vangelico shares to drop below 100 

f*cking hell, Rockstar is pissing me off. As much as I like the idea of an online economy that involves other players, it should be separate from my singleplayer game. Especially since the online crap is apparently unstable as hell.

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 09:47 PM

Oh, also, I've been experimenting with getting other stocks to fluctuate. Was driving around in a delivery truck earlier, which caused more delivery trucks to spawn.  Stole a GoPostal van, blew it up, and saw GoPostal's stock drop a bit while PostOP's go up a bit.

 

Also, did the same with a few Logger beer (after it got bought by the f*ckin Chinese) trucks, watched their stock drop, then sunk all my dough into it, found a Pisswasser trailer, blew that up too.  Sadly, I have no way to invest in Pisswasser, but I did see Logger's stock spike up about 14%.  Here's the weird thing, though.  After I blew up the Pisswasser trailer, I had cops on my tail. So I ran into an alley, quickly whipped out my phone to see what the stock prices were doing. It says Logger had spiked 14%. But then some cop started shooting so I backed out to run and hide again.  Not 10 seconds later I went back to my portfolio, and my damn portfolio said Logger had increased 0%!  So I backed out again, lost the cops properly, and went back to the portfolio. Luckily it said 14% up again. HOWEVER, when I sold all my stock, I didn't make one damn dollar!  It just gave me about the same amount that I initially invested! WTF!


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Posted 18 September 2013 - 09:55 PM Edited by theldog, 18 September 2013 - 10:05 PM.

LIST OF RIVALS:
















































CoolBeansBeanMachine
BurgershotUp-An-Atom
CluckinBellTacoBomb
FlyUSAirEmu
GoPostalPostOP
BilkingtonDollarPills
PisswasserLogger
MazeBankBankOfLiberty
RedwoodDebonaire
Slaughter, Slaughter & SlaughterBullhead
eColaRaine
MerrywaterGrupper 6

 

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 10:10 PM

Thanks for that cross-reference, theldog!  Didn't realize Up-n-Atom competed against Burgershot.  Any idea how one would go about attacking Up-n-Atom, though?  Or the pharma companies? Or the Law firms?

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