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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:09 PM

I have seen numerous people claim that they are getting the game early from a mom and pop shop. I don't understand why these people would risk a large fine and breaking a law that could potentially put them out of business, just for a few extra bucks? Maybe the reason is, these fines just are not enforced.

 

Has anyone ever witnessed or heard of a store getting a fined for breaking a street date? If so, what is the penalty? With all of these people breaking the law, maybe it's just a slap on the wrist?


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:11 PM

Yes. KMart got fined over $200,000 for an early release of MW2. That's the one I specifically remember.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:11 PM

If they get caught they'll get fined. The mom and pop stores would usually only sell early to people they know.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:14 PM

Someone probably will say they have. I work at a game store in the uk and no there has never been a fine or anything like that for releasing before a given date. It silly to think there would be

When you consider the millions and millions of copies of game X in circulation it's inevitable that a copy gets out into the public domain early. And if the subject ever did get raised who would admit to it?

The customer wouldn't report cause he/ she got it early and the shop selling it (if before release date) will run it up on the till as another title so there is no physicle proof it was them who sold it :)

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:14 PM

Only the huge ones like wall mart and such, the small mom and pop shops operate under the radar.

Although medium sized shops are usually warned instead of fined, no way in hell can they afford the ridiculous fines on breaking the street date. (bankruptcy as a result)


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:17 PM

Many retailers will bring the game home the day they recieve the game, they just don't tell anyone about it. Therfor don't get caught. 


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:25 PM

I got PS3 4 days early, just about keeping mouth shut really, posting on forums that you have it then exposing the name of the shop doesnt help!


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:26 PM Edited by Jesse Pinkman, 09 September 2013 - 05:27 PM.

Yes, I work in a game shop, there are serious fines for leaking anything. Its like stealing it. Its not really true that many retailers take the game home, because there are a lot of secuity checks and other information that helps managers to find out if even one copy is missing.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:28 PM

There's a store near where I live that sells the big games 48 hours early for an extra £10 or so. They probably get hundreds of people purchasing from them, and I've never heard of anything happening to them.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:30 PM Edited by CaptainChronicV, 09 September 2013 - 05:44 PM.

At the store i get my games early you dont get a receipt and have to pay cash you think it's a risk at first but now I know there store owners quite well I'm not worried if I get a faulty copy I know they would exchange it, but yea no paper trail no way to prove they sold it

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:32 PM

How about when the game is actually banned, like here in the UAE.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:36 PM

it's not really about them selling it to people they know, as long as you don't pose suspicion and you're cool/laid back they'll treat you like family, I can tell you for a fact that I don't know any of the employees personally and I'm still getting it early

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:41 PM

guys, when will gta 5 be shipped to local stores?


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:44 PM

At the store i get my games early you dont get a receipt and have to pay cash you think it's a risk at first but now I know there store owners quite well I'm not worried if I get a faulty copy I know they would exchange it, but yea no paper trail now way to prove they sold it

Except that they have to have information on how many copies they exactly recieved and how many they sold. If there would be one missing copy it imediately means problems.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:46 PM

tesco in the uk got fined by bungie for selling halo 3 early 


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:50 PM

How about when the game is actually banned, like here in the UAE.

It's not really banned. They used to say GTA IV is banned, MP3. I see it in the stores errryyydaay 


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:51 PM Edited by CaptainChronicV, 09 September 2013 - 05:55 PM.


At the store i get my games early you dont get a receipt and have to pay cash you think it's a risk at first but now I know there store owners quite well I'm not worried if I get a faulty copy I know they would exchange it, but yea no paper trail now way to prove they sold it

Except that they have to have information on how many copies they exactly recieved and how many they sold. If there would be one missing copy it imediately means problems.

I'm not sure how they get around that but I would guess they write up the receipts for the game sold after the official release date ? They tend to charge 5 to 10 pounds more then the RRP so would guess that's how they do it and the rest is tax free its a risky business but people do worse things

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:51 PM

At the store i get my games early you dont get a receipt and have to pay cash you think it's a risk at first but now I know there store owners quite well I'm not worried if I get a faulty copy I know they would exchange it, but yea no paper trail now way to prove they sold it

Except that they have to have information on how many copies they exactly recieved and how many they sold. If there would be one missing copy it imediately means problems.

Well on the release date, they then scan any sold early through the till. Simples.

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:52 PM

guys, when will gta 5 be shipped to local stores?

Big stores like Gamestop and Best Buy should have received their shipments of the game already


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:52 PM Edited by Don Sal Leone, 09 September 2013 - 05:57 PM.

Yes if a Store is reported to have broken the street date with evidence then the shop is fined (and sometimes distributors then start to send them games later). 

 

Big stores like Tesco, ASDA and such will have their game copies/will receive them before Friday and will start getting orders ready. 

 

From what i've experienced, early games are sold by cash only, with no receipt and the store then will scan the already sold copies of the game on release date and most likely throw the "early" customer receipts away unless you ask to pick it up. And yes, depending on if you know the owner or not they charge more than the RRP in most cases. 


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:53 PM

Unless sold in great numbers, what are you gonna do about it?


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 05:59 PM

I worked at walmart and I asked my friend who worked in the tech dept and he said no one ever does it, it'd be like stealing and who wants to be fired over a 60$ game and a couple of hours of gameplay before it's released.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 06:01 PM

Someone probably will say they have. I work at a game store in the uk and no there has never been a fine or anything like that for releasing before a given date. It silly to think there would be

When you consider the millions and millions of copies of game X in circulation it's inevitable that a copy gets out into the public domain early. And if the subject ever did get raised who would admit to it?

The customer wouldn't report cause he/ she got it early and the shop selling it (if before release date) will run it up on the till as another title so there is no physicle proof it was them who sold it :)

Did't read your post....LOVE the Shadowrun pic though!


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 06:03 PM Edited by CaptainChronicV, 09 September 2013 - 06:04 PM.

I worked at walmart and I asked my friend who worked in the tech dept and he said no one ever does it, it'd be like stealing and who wants to be fired over a 60$ game and a couple of hours of gameplay before it's released.


Yes for someone who worked for a major store it would be very stupid, but not for some who owns there own small game shop

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Posted 09 September 2013 - 06:33 PM

Big chains can be fined, and penalized by not receiving copies of major titles in the future, so there is a bigger risk for them, a small "Mom n Pop" store usually will go for the big score per se, and not care if they lose the chance to sell big future titles.

 

So a Best Buy in Boston could be the only one in the whole company to sell copies of the game early, but if they get caught the whole company could face fines and lose it's privilege to sell any future R* titles, a smaller shop is a stand alone, so they would care as much, plus it's easier to hide.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 06:44 PM

Can a worker at a game store get in trouble for selling an M rated game to a person who is younger then the rating states?

 

Sorry about being off topic, but reading this thread made me wonder about this.

 

On topic: I have always wondered about if game stores could get in trouble for selling a game early though.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 06:49 PM

Can a worker at a game store get in trouble for selling an M rated game to a person who is younger then the rating states?

 

Sorry about being off topic, but reading this thread made me wonder about this.

 

On topic: I have always wondered about if game stores could get in trouble for selling a game early though.

 

In the UK you can actually get arrested, fined and lose your job. For selling a game to someone under the age rating.


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Posted 09 September 2013 - 06:57 PM

the shop selling it (if before release date) will run it up on the till as another title so there is no physicle proof it was them who sold it :)

 

Really? Surely any shop assistant selling it early would just pocket the money? They'd sell it at the pub for several times its face value wouldn't they?





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