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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:33 AM

Discuss.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 10:57 AM

Oh god. Australia is about to find out what a giant f*cking mistake weve made reaaaalll soon. Tony Abbott is going to make a complete ass of himself, hes the next George Bush.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:00 AM

Great point lol. Dude f*cking Clive Palmer won his heat... insane. The Greens reinstated Adam Bandt too.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:05 AM

I heard that Muroch has a hold on most media outlets and that they may possibly be slightly biased because of this.

 

Is this true? Seems awful if it is.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:06 AM

Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:10 AM

I heard that Muroch has a hold on most media outlets and that they may possibly be slightly biased because of this.

 

Is this true? Seems awful if it is.

Mate I can answer that with an image.

 

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:11 AM

I heard that Muroch has a hold on most media outlets and that they may possibly be slightly biased because of this.

 

Is this true? Seems awful if it is.

Well when almost every major newspaper in the country and other media outlet types all target campaigns against one party and for the other it is bound to sway the majority of idiots, and played a part in this.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:16 AM

Look at that picture mate.

 

They've got 76 f*cking seats, f*ck me, and there's still 26 in doubt.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:19 AM

Don't look at me, I voted labor
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:33 AM

You sir are very intelligent.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:38 AM

My vote goes to the alcoholic. I declare a drinking contest. A man who can hold the most liquor is the most proud leader.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:40 AM

Don't look at me, I voted labor

Same....

 

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I... want... my... N......B......N......

Now look at Labor that's the way you do it
You play GTA Online with the PS3
The Liberals ain't workin' Labor's the way you do it
Money for nothin' and NBN for free

Well, Not anymore At least.
 

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:52 AM

WTF did Liberal just win?!

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:55 AM

Yeah the Coalition f*cking won.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:56 AM

f*ckKKKKK!!

 

What am i meant to do with 25Mbps? 

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:57 AM Edited by ALMOST610, 07 September 2013 - 11:59 AM.

Time for us to rise up, flood the streets, and start a Revolution against those Pigs. :panic: :miranda:

 

f*ckKKKKK!!

 

What am i meant to do with 25Mbps? 

 

 

The fastest I can get is 150kbps. Considering the NBN was expected to hit me shorty, I am now pissed, seeing as the workers said they wont be doing anything in my area until after the Election and seeing who wins.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 11:58 AM

Blame my parents. I would of voted labour.
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 12:01 PM Edited by finn4life, 07 September 2013 - 12:03 PM.

Well this is good...not.
- No Gay rights.
- Increased Taxes all around.
- Decreased funding everywhere.
- Money being blown on the National Broadband Network, Labour was going to do it properly, this is just half assed, f*ck you Tony Abbott. Why would you do Fiber to the node? f*cking stupid stupid stupid.

Yeah, instead of making one plan to bring everyone up to 1Gigabit peak speeds and have it all done with Fiber optics from every exchange to people's houses. let's just aim for 25 Megabits leaving 60 year old+ copper wires to peoples houses which will need to be upgraded eventually anyway, it's going to cost way more to go digging up streets AGAIN in 10 years than if they did it now.

I honestly hate my Prime Minister, I have never every felt that way, Tony Abbott is a Gay Hating misogynist who is withholding information and not being clear with his intentions. He can go get f*cked as far as I am concerned. It is not liberals time to come back yet.

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Posted 07 September 2013 - 12:10 PM

Do you know how much he wants to reduce Foreign Spending by?


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 12:19 PM Edited by finn4life, 07 September 2013 - 12:38 PM.

Made the top one.
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@MikeyBelic, I have no idea honestly considering they didn't even release their figures before the election.

Also here is a petition asking the coalition to upgrade their NBN plan as the current one they have is basically pointless.
http://www.change.or...-ftth-nbn#share


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 12:39 PM

PLEASE HELP ME NOOOOOOOOOOOO.

 

can't post my picture of abbott cause clearly GTAforums is biased towards the LIBERALS.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 12:53 PM Edited by ALMOST610, 07 September 2013 - 12:53 PM.

Did Palmer end up getting his seat or any?

Any word on it, on one hand it would be great to watch what crap he is up to each day, on the other hand, it sure would wipe the smug look off his face that his party was going to get tonnes of seats.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 12:59 PM

Palmer is holding his seat on 50.8% with Labor preferences, he's on the verge of getting a senate seat and if in another seat his party gets more of the majority of Labor (it's within 2.5%) then he gets both the greens/labors preferences and that puts PUP over the LNP's majority in that seat, meaning he could get two HOR seats.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 01:06 PM Edited by finn4life, 07 September 2013 - 01:46 PM.

If you guys could elaborate for me a little on what Palmer getting seats means for the country that would be great. Yes, I am an uneducated hobo who pays far too little attention to the politics of his own country.

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Anyway, here's the petition again to reconsider the NBN..

http://www.change.or...-ftth-nbn#share
 

As currently proposed, the Coalition’s FTTN solution relies on the existing copper lines to supply individual premises access to the National Broadband Network (NBN) over the last mile or so.  However, copper wiring solutions are rapidly approaching a century of implementation, with its inception dating back to the 1920’s.  As such, it’s technological limits as well as associated weaknesses are rapidly developing.  

First and foremost are its bandwidth capabilities.  While your government proudly boasts eventual download speeds of 100Mbps and upload speeds of around a mere 5mbs, this is unlikely to be sufficient for tomorrows technology centric society.  A likely society in which data becomes ever more important, as a universal shift towards a total digital front approaches.  A likely place where an expanding range of devices and services will become linked, cloud computing/processing becomes the norm, and internet TV the main form of broadcast.  In reality, there is no real way of knowing exactly what future technologies lie around the corner, but it is a safe bet that a FTTN solution will not contain them for long.  

Having lived abroad for several years I have witnessed first hand how far behind Australia is in this respective infrastructure.  Your party’s claim to the success of FTTN implementation in other countries such as the UK/USA are irrelevant with said nations already seeking options to move on from this outdated technology.  So why position Australia and our future generations behind the rest of  the worlds leading nations with a technology that they themselves are already decommissioning?

Secondly is the well known fact that suggested speeds, in this instance 100Mbs/5Mbs, are more or less theoretical since actual speeds will be dependent upon the distance of an individual premises from the node.  This in turn, accompanied by the spacious layout of Australian homes and businesses, even in inner city markets, will cause a significant variance in actual speeds received by paying customers.  Further compounding the issue, is the fact that the vast majority of Australia’s copper lines are well beyond their recommended lifespan and have already been affected, or are prone to environmental damages such as water.

In addition to this, by implementing your proposed FTTN solution an unfair division will occur between those who are connected under the FTTN method, and those who have already been connected to the superior FTTH method.  Now it is understood that customers will have the choice to opt in to a FTTH solution, however, in saying this, if connection costs are even remotely reflective of overseas models, it will prove unaffordable for the majority of Australian households.  Furthermore, this will continue to promote an inevitable division across Australian citizens; namely a division between the wealthy and the rest of us.  Such a division will not prove healthy in the long run for our economy, or society.

Moving on, it is disconcerting to find that your government is proudly quoting an approximate $30 billion dollar cost, roughly 1/3rd of Labors approximately $90 billion cost, yet it will only manage 1/10th of the speed (with the deficiency in speed likely to continue to grow as time goes on).  What's more these ‘savings’ figures do not factor in the cost of upgrading the FTTN network again when the time comes just a few quick decades down the road.  These upgrade costs on top of your $30 billion estimated cost, combined with inflation rates will result in a budget blowout which will well exceed that of the Labor party’s existing NBN proposal.

On the other hand a superior FTTH solution is able to alleviate all these shortcomings as well as provide a host of advantages.  Fiber networks are not dependent/limited by the distance from the exchange, are far less susceptible to environmental hazards/interference, will provide the vast majority of Australian’s with an equal and unified service, are renowned in the industry as a viable method capable of delivering future broadband services, will prove to be an increasingly more cost effective option as time goes on.  Building upon this, under a FTTH NBN, future upgrade costs will be next to nothing since all upgrades will take place at either end of the lines (i.e. at the exchange/premises), rather than replacing the lines themselves.

Locations around the globe where FTTH technology exist have demonstrated that there is sufficient growth, market adoption and economic benefit to make this technology feasible, as well as justifiable in terms of cost.  This is already apparent in Tasmania (its FTTH construction is approaching its completion) 44% of customers (and growing) are subscribing to its highest tier service of 100Mbs, suggesting a strong desire even on our own shores for gigabit services which are only capable on a FTTH solution.  The strength of gigabit services, in places such as Kansas City (under Google’s Fiber project) are already witnessing a boost in economy via the creation of new jobs and services along with the garnering of international attention from global corporations alike.

Broadband internet is an ‘infrastructure’ and should be considered in the same light as highways, water management, electricity and so forth; it should be a ‘right’ available ‘equally’ to all Australians.  Broadband internet is one of many crucial building blocks which creates the underlying foundation for a successful nation.  Superfast broadband is about more than connecting several familly PCs, laptops, ipads, phones and other devices to the internet.  It is about more than downloading ones favorite music, tv shows, movies or watching YouTube sensations.  And yes, it is about more than being able to connect health and educational services, businesses and corporations.  Having a well thought out, well implemented, and well maintained National Broadband Network is about ensuring the prosperity of Australians for generations to come.  It is a vision shared by the Australian spirit and achievable through FTTH technology.  It is due to this dream and the concern that it may not be met, that I and many Australians urge you to reconsider your proposal of a FTTN NBN in favour of a superior FTTH NBN.  As your policy currently stands its is merely patch-work; a short term solution to a long term problem.

I just made this one as well! Got posted by a page and it going off! I think it's going viral!
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Posted 07 September 2013 - 01:51 PM

f*ckKKKKK!!

 

What am i meant to do with 25Mbps? 

 

Enjoy it because they only guarantee speeds of 12-14mbps on NBN.

 

If you are in an HFC area and can get ultimate cable you're better off.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 02:05 PM

 

f*ckKKKKK!!

 

What am i meant to do with 25Mbps? 

 

Enjoy it because they only guarantee speeds of 12-14mbps on NBN.

 

If you are in an HFC area and can get ultimate cable you're better off.

 

That's what I am already getting...What a waste of money.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 02:37 PM

 

 

f*ckKKKKK!!

 

What am i meant to do with 25Mbps? 

 

Enjoy it because they only guarantee speeds of 12-14mbps on NBN.

 

If you are in an HFC area and can get ultimate cable you're better off.

 

That's what I am already getting...What a waste of money.

 

 

Hahah what? Its the fastest commercially available internet in the country.

 

The fastest of a lot of awful options, but you can't do any better, even with NBN with current optimisation.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 02:41 PM Edited by finn4life, 07 September 2013 - 02:41 PM.

 

 

 

f*ckKKKKK!!

 

What am i meant to do with 25Mbps? 

 

Enjoy it because they only guarantee speeds of 12-14mbps on NBN.

 

If you are in an HFC area and can get ultimate cable you're better off.

 

That's what I am already getting...What a waste of money.

 

 

Hahah what? Its the fastest commercially available internet in the country.

 

The fastest of a lot of awful options, but you can't do any better, even with NBN with current optimisation.

 

Wait, we're misunderstanding, I mean that I am already getting 12-13mbits.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 02:52 PM

Ahh so you're getting those speeds with ADSL?

 

Thing you got to realise though, you're getting these current speeds on a network that was built to handle phone calls over 50 years ago. With the ground work done and the fibre placed, future advances mean the NBN can amount to something pretty damn sweet.

 

NBN is nowhere near my area, even on the three year rollout, but I'm not too angry because we have HFC which tops out near 100kbps anyways.


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Posted 07 September 2013 - 02:58 PM

I am currently on a bus to Ottawa and found out that Tony Abbott is the new prime minister. I am really hoping that the media will hold Abbott accountable for all the sh*t he says now that he is PM. This may be a sh*tty 3 years but I see this as a chance for Labour to get their sh*t together for the next election. It's a shame the Coalition won the majority of seats in parliament as well.

It will be interesting to see what will happen with the NBN, last thing I read was that it was going overbudget and a lot of it had been installed very cheaply. A fibre optic network is something Australia needs, copper is just becoming far too outdated and unreliable with the current technologies involved with networks.

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