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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:06 AM

Okay so I just had a thought about a possible reason why rockstar have only shown ps3 for the previews and trailers. It has nothing to do with an opinion of which version will be better. For the record, I'll be playing it on Xbox, but seeing as the PS3 is technically a more powerful machine, it's completely possible that version will come out on top. Or not. Doesn't matter hear me out.

Could it be that, since the final game will be on two DVDs for 360, rather than the single bluray on PS3, it has simply been easier to prepare different builds of the game for presentation during development on PS3? I know the games are most likely being transferred harddrive to harddrive on dev kits and such, but maybe it's simply faster and more efficient to iterate the software for the PS3 rather than the 360? Regardless of whether builds have been written to disc or not, they've probably had to simulate that disc one install along the way, so maybe it's just faster to go with a PS3 build and skip that step.

I don't have any "real" evidence for this, since I don't know the actual process of developing software like this, but it does seem like there could be some logic behind it, so I thought I'd throw it out here to hopefully spark some conversation on the topic beyond console wars.

Lets face it: BOTH machines are getting ready to be retired. The fact that this game will run on either is extremely impressive. And once it (most likely) gets eventually ported over to PC or next gen, they will both be at the bottom of the scale. So lets just enjoy the game, in any form - just two and a half weeks ladies and gentlemen!

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:07 AM

Why GTA4 has been showing on Xbox 360 in 2007/Early 2008 and 2009

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:09 AM

the xbox has a compulsory install. so only one disc is for game play... like ps3. so both will be spinning. if the 360 is installed fully it'll be faster then keeping it on cd and playing. reason why 360 is on 2 discs is because of the limitation on DVD size.

regardless both consoles will have the CD's spinning to read discs during gameplay

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:10 AM

QUOTE (ZeeKid2k10 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:07)
Why GTA4 has been showing on Xbox 360 in 2007/Early 2008 and 2009

I don't know that I understand what you're saying.

GTA IV was a single disc for both games, so the development process isn't really comparable. And I think the 369 version was smoother than the ps3 in that case because developers were still struggling to understand how to work on Sonya's hardware at that point.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:11 AM

QUOTE (kb2084 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:09)
the xbox has a compulsary install. so only one disc is for game play... like ps3. so both will be spinning. if the 360 is installed funnly it'll be faster then keeping it on cd and playing.

regardless both consoles will have the CD's spinning to read discs during gameplay

Until we get digital download.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:12 AM

That is a pretty probable theory, I thought they were constantly showing it on PS3 because R* made a sweetheart deal with Sony.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:13 AM

QUOTE (kb2084 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:09)
the xbox has a compulsory install. so only one disc is for game play... like ps3. so both will be spinning. if the 360 is installed fully it'll be faster then keeping it on cd and playing. reason why 360 is on 2 discs is because of the limitation on DVD size.

regardless both consoles will have the CD's spinning to read discs during gameplay

I thought if you download the whole game on 360 the gameplay disc will not spin? Just something I heard.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:13 AM

QUOTE (kb2084 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:09)
the xbox has a compulsory install. so only one disc is for game play... like ps3. so both will be spinning. if the 360 is installed fully it'll be faster then keeping it on cd and playing. reason why 360 is on 2 discs is because of the limitation on DVD size.

regardless both consoles will have the CD's spinning to read discs during gameplay

I'm not talking about the final retail copies. I'm referring to how they were preparing preview build to show press etc. I'm wondering if it was easier to prepare a work in progress ps3 version because they didn't have to account for that compulsory initial download on 360.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:14 AM Edited by redx165, 31 August 2013 - 07:45 AM.

Rockstar is only showing off the best version.

GTA IV: 360
RDR: 360
LA Noire: PS3
MP3: 360
GTA V: PS3

If you want the proof look at my signature.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:14 AM

Lol on que!! Redx to the Sony rescue!!!!

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:14 AM Edited by Los Santos Police Department, 31 August 2013 - 08:48 AM.

QUOTE (RaptorTaco @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:10)
QUOTE (ZeeKid2k10 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:07)
Why GTA4 has been showing on Xbox 360 in 2007/Early 2008 and 2009

I don't know that I understand what you're saying.

GTA IV was a single disc for both games, so the development process isn't really comparable. And I think the 369 version was smoother than the ps3 in that case because developers were still struggling to understand how to work on Sonya's hardware at that point.

369 lol

GTA V is shown on ps3 for the same reason gta IV was shown on the 360, the PS3 version of gta 5 is (slightly) better than the 360 version.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:15 AM

That's rather true. If you install both disk then the console will be doing quick check up at the beginning and no disk will be spinning.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:16 AM

QUOTE (gtamad8 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 09:12)
That is a pretty probable theory, I thought they were constantly showing it on PS3 because R* made a sweetheart deal with Sony.

Yes! Moneyyyyyyyy....for both.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:17 AM

QUOTE (Los Santos Police Department @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 03:14)
QUOTE (RaptorTaco @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:10)
QUOTE (ZeeKid2k10 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:07)
Why GTA4 has been showing on Xbox 360 in 2007/Early 2008 and 2009

I don't know that I understand what you're saying.

GTA IV was a single disc for both games, so the development process isn't really comparable. And I think the 369 version was smoother than the ps3 in that case because developers were still struggling to understand how to work on Sonya's hardware at that point.

369 lol

GTA V is shown on ps3 for the same reason gta IV was shown on the 360, the PS3 version of gta 5 is better than the 360 version.

Or its because they are promoting the version of which payed them the most. Just like M$ payed Rockstar abunch last game. Its why all advertisments say Playstation. Ps3 bundle, mentioned at sony e3. Etc

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:18 AM

QUOTE (Los Santos Police Department @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:14)
QUOTE (RaptorTaco @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:10)
QUOTE (ZeeKid2k10 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:07)
Why GTA4 has been showing on Xbox 360 in 2007/Early 2008 and 2009

I don't know that I understand what you're saying.

GTA IV was a single disc for both games, so the development process isn't really comparable. And I think the 369 version was smoother than the ps3 in that case because developers were still struggling to understand how to work on Sonya's hardware at that point.

369 lol

GTA V is shown on ps3 for the same reason gta IV was shown on the 360, the PS3 version of gta 5 is better than the 360 version.

Haha 360*. Typing on an ipad sucks sometimes.

It's entirely possible that the PS3 version will be better. If rockstar figured out how to take advantage of the cell processing to its fullest, it has the upper hand technically. And it does seem that sony is working the deals harder this time around. This was just another, possibly less cynical, idea.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:18 AM

Just curious, does the new version of the ps3 have a slot to put your dick in because ps3 fans defend the console like they are defending their woman. I have had both and they both are pretty much the same on all aspects.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:19 AM

QUOTE (Tyg0903 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 03:13)
QUOTE (kb2084 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:09)
the xbox has a compulsory install. so only one disc is for game play... like ps3. so both will be spinning. if the 360 is installed fully it'll be faster then keeping it on cd and playing. reason why 360 is on 2 discs is because of the limitation on DVD size.

regardless both consoles will have the CD's spinning to read discs during gameplay

I thought if you download the whole game on 360 the gameplay disc will not spin? Just something I heard.

Install* and yes. No spinning on 360 version

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:21 AM

Also because PS3 is on a Bluray Disc but the X360 version is on two DVDs they had to compress A LOT of audio (which is why it's about 3GB smaller) so I guess R* wanna show it on PS3 so the maximum potential of the game (graphics, sound, etc) is shown.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:22 AM

QUOTE (lazloisdavrock @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:19)
QUOTE (Tyg0903 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 03:13)
QUOTE (kb2084 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:09)
the xbox has a compulsory install. so only one disc is for game play... like ps3. so both will be spinning. if the 360 is installed fully it'll be faster then keeping it on cd and playing. reason why 360 is on 2 discs is because of the limitation on DVD size.

regardless both consoles will have the CD's spinning to read discs during gameplay

I thought if you download the whole game on 360 the gameplay disc will not spin? Just something I heard.

Install* and yes. No spinning on 360 version

Good enough for me, and the fact that Microsoft is an American company and ya know, I like to buy American. Except when it comes to cars, food, hookers, clothes, alcohol, etc etc

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:34 AM

QUOTE (Tyg0903 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:22)
QUOTE (lazloisdavrock @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:19)
QUOTE (Tyg0903 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 03:13)
QUOTE (kb2084 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:09)
the xbox has a compulsory install. so only one disc is for game play... like ps3. so both will be spinning. if the 360 is installed fully it'll be faster then keeping it on cd and playing. reason why 360 is on 2 discs is because of the limitation on DVD size.

regardless both consoles will have the CD's spinning to read discs during gameplay

I thought if you download the whole game on 360 the gameplay disc will not spin? Just something I heard.

Install* and yes. No spinning on 360 version

Good enough for me, and the fact that Microsoft is an American company and ya know, I like to buy American. Except when it comes to cars, food, hookers, clothes, alcohol, etc etc

A true patriot.
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@Lazlo The disc will still spin, unless the game is fully installed onto the xbox.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:36 AM

QUOTE (lazloisdavrock @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 02:14)
Lol on que!! Redx to the Sony rescue!!!!

I just state a simple fact that many people don't know.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:38 AM

QUOTE (redx165 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:14)
Rockstar is only showing off the best version.

GTA IV: 360
RDR: 360
LA Noire: PS3
MP3: 360
PS3: PS3

If you want the proof look at my signature.

i'm not sure they did show off playstation 3 on a playstation 3, i think the xbox 360 version of playstation 3 was better so they showed it on that.

unless sony had a marketing deal with microsoft

but really your sh*t is practically copypasta now redx, please stop

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:39 AM

QUOTE (INFYN @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 02:38)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:14)
Rockstar is only showing off the best version.

GTA IV: 360
RDR: 360
LA Noire: PS3
MP3: 360
PS3: PS3

If you want the proof look at my signature.

i'm not sure they did show off playstation 3 on a playstation 3, i think the xbox 360 version of playstation 3 was better so they showed it on that.

unless sony had a marketing deal with microsoft

but really your sh*t is practically copypasta now redx, please stop

Did you just say they used the 360 version in the PS3?

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:41 AM

QUOTE (redx165 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:39)
QUOTE (INFYN @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 02:38)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:14)
Rockstar is only showing off the best version.

GTA IV: 360
RDR: 360
LA Noire: PS3
MP3: 360
PS3: PS3

If you want the proof look at my signature.

i'm not sure they did show off playstation 3 on a playstation 3, i think the xbox 360 version of playstation 3 was better so they showed it on that.

unless sony had a marketing deal with microsoft

but really your sh*t is practically copypasta now redx, please stop

Did you just say they used the 360 version in the PS3?

Look under MP3:360, you said PS3:PS3

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:41 AM

QUOTE (redx165 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:39)
QUOTE (INFYN @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 02:38)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:14)
Rockstar is only showing off the best version.

GTA IV: 360
RDR: 360
LA Noire: PS3
MP3: 360
PS3: PS3

If you want the proof look at my signature.

i'm not sure they did show off playstation 3 on a playstation 3, i think the xbox 360 version of playstation 3 was better so they showed it on that.

unless sony had a marketing deal with microsoft

but really your sh*t is practically copypasta now redx, please stop

Did you just say they used the 360 version in the PS3?

i am making fun of your typo.

with observational skills like that the PS3 version of GTAV could be 480p and you'd still defend it as the best version.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:42 AM

QUOTE (redx165 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:36)
QUOTE (lazloisdavrock @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 02:14)
Lol on que!!    Redx to the Sony rescue!!!!

I just state a simple fact that many people don't know.

Everyone knows your "fact"

It's rammed down our throats every time there is a hint of discussion between Sony and Microsoft.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:45 AM

QUOTE (Daviedv @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:42)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:36)
QUOTE (lazloisdavrock @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 02:14)
Lol on que!!    Redx to the Sony rescue!!!!

I just state a simple fact that many people don't know.

Everyone knows your "fact"

It's rammed down our throats every time there is a hint of discussion between Sony and Microsoft.

Its more like the standard opinion of a sony fanboy that believes their version is superior and continues to let other people know whenever there is a discussion comparing GTA V on 360 or PS3.

also it doesn't bother me that much what version is better, I have a 360 so I am stuck at getting the 360 version. I am not going to buy a new console (if ps3 is, and I mean if ps3 is better) when the new generation is just around the corner.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:46 AM

QUOTE (INFYN @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 02:41)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:39)
QUOTE (INFYN @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 02:38)
QUOTE (redx165 @ Saturday, Aug 31 2013, 07:14)
Rockstar is only showing off the best version.

GTA IV: 360
RDR: 360
LA Noire: PS3
MP3: 360
PS3: PS3

If you want the proof look at my signature.

i'm not sure they did show off playstation 3 on a playstation 3, i think the xbox 360 version of playstation 3 was better so they showed it on that.

unless sony had a marketing deal with microsoft

but really your sh*t is practically copypasta now redx, please stop

Did you just say they used the 360 version in the PS3?

i am making fun of your typo.

with observational skills like that the PS3 version of GTAV could be 480p and you'd still defend it as the best version.

I didn't even notice the mistake. The PS3 version is in fact 720p from the gameplay trailers. While the 360 version could be 480p since we never saw it.

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:46 AM

Oh my god... Redx never gives up does he!?its not about showing best versions, it's about making marketing deals for cash.
Come on, marketing 101! I learnt this in highschool!

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Posted 31 August 2013 - 07:50 AM

You know what I just realized which is kind of funny on redx's part is that his so called "facts" for both GTA IV and RDR say that they were developed for 360 then ported to ps3 except in the case of GTA IV it was 360 deal; whereas, RDR was PS3 deal.





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