I want to start playing some GTA to get ready for V in about 2 and half weeks yeah? Who wouldn't? So I boot up GTA IV and it holds at the black screen that follows the GTA IV logo during the introduction logo display (rockstar logos, ending with the GTA IV logo) for an uncommonly long time. Now, mind you, I haven't even so much as touched any GTA related files, apps, folders, icons, etc. for months. Back in May, I played the game just fine, running around doing as I pleased with no issues. I don't touch the game in months and I just start playing today and I find that it takes forever to get to the main menu.
Ah well, "it's just a one-time thing." I told myself. So I go to load my save file and THAT takes about twice as long as usual. Then I start getting a little weirded out. Finally, my game loads and lo and behold, I can't see Niko. I mean, I can see the environment and everything, but I just can't see Niko. I step outside, I can't even see other human models! I can't see anything but scenery, cars and guns! Wtf?! So jump out of the game and leave it be. Maybe I just booted it with something interrupting operations in the background. Sure enough, nothing was running. Boot it again, takes forever to load again but this time I can see Niko and the other people! Although the lod loading is very off. Textures take years to load completely and sometimes they don't even load at all and I'm stuck looking at a tree from 3 feet away with the textures of as if I was standing a mile down the road. Also, meshes take forever to pop in as well. I'll look at the brooklyn bridge and it'll take about a second to load fully, then I'll turn to my right, look at stuff and wait for it to load and then look back at the bridge. All for it to not even be there again! Oh wait, it just took another second to load.
Weird. I didn't change a single setting between now and then.
Now get this. I turn the game off again and try to boot it up again in hopes that things are slowly fixing themselves.
AGAIN MIND YOU, I HAVE NOT TOUCHED ANYTHING BETWEEN NOW AND THE LAST TIME I BOOTED THE GAME.
I start the game up once more, directly after closing it, go through the lengthy load times that don't seem to change. ALL TO FIND THE PLAYER MODEL GONE AGAIN. WTF?! I didn't do anything! So why would that change?!
I'm honestly baffled. It's probably my massive swarm of about 20 gigs worth of mods that just randomly decided to act up today of all days. (Again, I've played fine with all the same mods. I've done nothing to alter the game state whatsoever between may and now. I even checked the folder to see when it was last modified and sure enough, it said May 26th.)
I uninstall GTA IV and EFLC. I delete the remaining files left over from the steam uninstall. Now I'm doing practically a fresh install of the game.
Take about an 45 mins, get everything downloaded again and start the game just as it was downloaded from Steam, without any mods applied.
Same f*cking long ass load times... BUT HEY, I can see Niko at least! And the texture and mesh lod issues don't seem to be appearing either, but then again, I'm playing without any of my mods. SO, fine gentlemen/ladies of the GTA 4 modding and support community, HOW THE f*ck DO I STOP ALL THIS RANDOM sh*t FROM HAPPENING?!!!!!!!!!!!
Some preface information that you guys are probably gonna ask for:
AMD PhenII x4 965 black (OC'd 10%, but that's been that way since March)
GTX 660 factory oc'd
8 gb DDR3 (both sticks have same clock speed)
550 watt supply
ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO Mobo (2009 I believe)
Running the game off of a 500 gb Seagate portable drive. I've been running every single one of my games that way for the past 3 years on the same exact hard drive in the same exact port without issue ever so you can't tell me that's the issue lol.
Things I've tried:
-Deleting my entire saved file in my saved games folder under GTA IV in the App Data folder.
-Turning VSync off
-Fresh install (or as fresh as completely uninstalling it from steam and then deleting any remaining files as well as the original source folders)
-ran with "-norestrictions -nomemrestrict" applied before and after uninstalling the game. It's currently taken off from the command line.
-Defrag'ing the hard drive. Even though my analysis from last night says it had 0% fragmentation.
Things I'm about to try once I finish writing this:
-Run in Admin
-Run several times to see if there's anymore issues with the LOD and at least slice that issue off the list
-See if similar issues persist in EFLC (highly likely)
So yeah! Anyone care to help me out on this little f*cker of a problem?
So I just ran the game fresh twice in a row directly after posting this and to my surprise, everything loaded super fast and was just peachy! I even played around for a bit the first time I loaded it up to see if the LOD issue was fixed, and I found out that sure enough it was!
I was super excited! Until I ran it a third time. The third time I booted it up, I was met with the extremely prolonged black screen after the intro logos...
NOW, AGAIN, TO REITERATE VERY CLEARLY: I DIDN'T TOUCH ANYTHING BUT THE "Play" BUTTON ON THE STEAM GAME LIBRARY PAGE. I HAVE NOT MOVED FILES OR ADDED FILES OR SUBTRACTED FILES OR EVEN LOOKED AT OTHER FILES. These launches all took place within a 10 minute span. It consisted of me hitting play, then logging into Rockstar Club. Then I clicked "Start" under GTA IV, then I loaded my saved game and played. That's what I did, both times I loaded the game DIRECTLY AFTER I POSTED. Directly after the second time I loaded the game, I went back and hit play again to find that the load times were drawn out again.
I'M NOT EVEN LOOKING AT ANYTHING LET ALONE TOUCHING ANYTHING UGH.
Alright so I basically have been messing around with it for the entirety of the day and I eventually stumbled upon a perfect game state. LOD was fixed, game loads fast, nothing was the matter besides the randomly lenghty (and sometimes short) load times to get to the main menu after the opening logos.
Then I went and changed the popcycle.dat file. Now mind you, I've been switching that file out all day back and forth. The same file, just switching it out in an attempt to diagnose my taxi bug and see what was responsible. Well after going back and forth between popcyles, and I had finally determined the source of my taxi bug, I put the new popcyle in my common/data folder and then boom. The LOD sh*t happens again.
Well, f*ck. So I go and look around for some help, I find a youtube video showing my exact same problem with almost the identical situation. There's a suggestion for a fix that has tons of thumbs up in the comments section.
I tried that fix. What did I get from that fix?
Load times that were actually 4x longer than my initial load times.
I mean come on. This is ridiculous. I mean, the game loads fast or slow randomly whenever I launch it, there doesn't seem to be any provoking factor at all that could be altering the load times for ANYTHING. I mean, hell. I made sure my game folder was as clean as a whistle. No loose files, no superfluous crap, nothing unintended.
Yet I still get this f*cking LOD issue. And now the load times are back up to hella huge highs.
I'm literally back to where I was this afternoon...
Only tests left to run are Admin and running EFLC to see if the same situation is going down there.
Please, I'm begging any of you, please help. This is driving me absolutely insane.
UPDATEEEE NUMBER f*ckING 3!!!!
So after a good night's sleep, I come back to try and diagnose the issue more. I've tried numerous fixes. Like about 25 different fixes. Minor and Major. Nothing has managed to f*cking make the LOD or objects load properly. I am, once again, doing a fresh install of GTA 4 and EFLC (which I found wasn't even able to f*cking START with the same mods applied, and yes the mods are EFLC compatible). I'm going to go from the start and essentially just work through and see when the LOD issue starts kicking in. I'm also going to see if I can fix the really long intro logo load time as well.
Wish me luck.
Anyone have any input, feel free to shoot it out.
Edited by Darksider13, 30 August 2013 - 04:53 PM.