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Posted 26 August 2013 - 04:40 AM

I'm sick with all of these people blaming violent games such as this. It should be parenting and arms control that should be brought more close attention, as they are the number one causes that would plagued such crimes and not violent games being the instigation of their attitudes towards crime.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 04:46 AM

This is why I prefer GTA San Andreas; Had he been playing SA he would have gone around the trailer park and destroying the drug labs rather than shooting innocent people.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 08:51 AM

QUOTE (LibSity @ Saturday, Aug 24 2013, 16:10)
QUOTE (FR_Player-One @ Saturday, Aug 24 2013, 15:08)
The problem isn't GTA. The problem is USA.

lol you dumbsh*t violent videogames don't exactly help.

GTA fans won't admit it, but it isn't a good game for society to play. It's addicting though.

Well it is 18 rated game. I started playing GTA at a very young age but I've never felt the urge to kill somebody. Why? Because I'm not mentally unstable. These people who kill after playing violent video games aren't all there in the head. GTA doesn't brain-wash you.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 08:59 AM

QUOTE (Tommy. @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 19:21)
QUOTE (LibSity @ Saturday, Aug 24 2013, 16:10)
QUOTE (FR_Player-One @ Saturday, Aug 24 2013, 15:08)
The problem isn't GTA. The problem is USA.

lol you dumbsh*t violent videogames don't exactly help.

GTA fans won't admit it, but it isn't a good game for society to play. It's addicting though.

Well it is 18 rated game. I started playing GTA at a very young age but I've never felt the urge to kill somebody. Why? Because I'm not mentally unstable. These people who kill after playing violent video games aren't all there in the head. GTA doesn't brain-wash you.

Yeah, who in their right mind would allow someone that young to play the game! It is ridiculous.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 03:22 PM

QUOTE (LibSity @ Saturday, Aug 24 2013, 15:10)
QUOTE (FR_Player-One @ Saturday, Aug 24 2013, 15:08)
The problem isn't GTA. The problem is USA.

lol you dumbsh*t violent videogames don't exactly help.

GTA fans won't admit it, but it isn't a good game for society to play. It's addicting though.

Typical ignorant soccermom attitude.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 03:33 PM Edited by Spuds725, 26 August 2013 - 03:40 PM.

QUOTE (Lightning Strike @ Saturday, Aug 24 2013, 23:30)


I'm sorry but just how out of touch are the news reporters and journalists of the United States with videogames? I can't remember a time when a Grand Theft Auto game awarded me "points for killing an NPC. Even more so, do the people that have willing written this down realise how contradictory their statements are, because I'm pretty sure that it's either that or they don't understand the definition of "realism". In reality, if I shot a person I wouldn't be gifted any points for doing so, hell I'd more than likely be shaking due to the fact that I'd have taken the life of another human being. Something like that would take its tole on my psyche and I'm almost certain that the majority of people here would agree with me. You don't kill for fun, and you certainly aren't awarded any "points" for doing so.

If the game is realistic then it wouldn't award you points for killing people and although we've established that Grand Theft Auto IV didn't award the payer anything for killing the NPC's of the world it still proves a rather shocking point. That point being that little to no effort was put into writing any of these articles, explaining in detail what had happened and how the situation may have transpired, instead the journalists and reporters decide to demonise a five-year-old videogame.

Well done America, your media never ceases to amaze me.


http://www.gtaforums...dpost&p=3412534

You are wrong....

All III era GTAs award criminal ranking points for killing NPCs.... IV does not.... This was just lazy reporting... They copy and pasted an earlier story on Vice City or San Andreas

From the above link to my post...

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2. People wasted-- 1 pt each (but these points are only given if you if you clear your stars in a pay -n- spray or if you save. If you get busted or wasted prior to this, you get no points from your current killing spree.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:40 PM

I don't understand why it's such a big deal. I mean it's sad, yeah, but the sadder thing is media uses this for their views and they blow it out of proportion.

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#68

Posted 26 August 2013 - 09:48 PM

QUOTE (Spuds725 @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 15:33)
You are wrong....

All III era GTAs award criminal ranking points for killing NPCs....  IV does not....  This was just lazy reporting... They copy and pasted an earlier story on Vice City or San Andreas

How can my opinion be wrong? You have no idea what I personally remember about the game series itself. Regardless, GTA IV didn't feature this relatively unknown point system so it's still terrible reporting however you look at it.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:06 PM

why aren't we asking how the kid got the gun but instead attacking a freaking video game

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 10:51 PM

QUOTE (FR_Player-One @ Saturday, Aug 24 2013, 10:08)
The problem isn't GTA. The problem is USA.

Hahahahahaha. No.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:56 PM

QUOTE (GunWrath @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 22:51)
QUOTE (FR_Player-One @ Saturday, Aug 24 2013, 10:08)
The problem isn't GTA. The problem is USA.

Hahahahahaha. No.

Yes.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 12:00 AM

QUOTE (GunWrath @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 22:51)
QUOTE (FR_Player-One @ Saturday, Aug 24 2013, 10:08)
The problem isn't GTA. The problem is USA.

Hahahahahaha. No.

Hahahaha. Yes.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 12:30 AM

QUOTE (GunWrath @ Tuesday, Aug 27 2013, 09:51)
QUOTE (FR_Player-One @ Saturday, Aug 24 2013, 10:08)
The problem isn't GTA. The problem is USA.

Hahahahahaha. No.

Hahahahahahaha. Yes.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 12:32 AM

I think Yankee gun culture had more to do than GTA when it comes to this.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 12:40 AM

who i truly hate are the people that blame gta and say its violent it should be banned blah blah blah by that logic most games would have to be banned so would most action movies and tv shows violence is everywhere its part of society we have to keep kids sheltered from it till there mature enough to realise right from wrong. this is not Gta fault in anyway it could of been ANY Game with a gun he picked up and it would of been the same outcome. and how has an 8yr old child even got access to a gun. << now that's the REAL issue.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 12:54 AM

Don't get me wrong, but please oh come on, I generally think video game violence is bullsh*t. Yeah, maybe video games would leave certain effects on children, but killing people, doing a bloody massacre?.. Oh come on! I don't think people suppose committing a crime is not that easy in GTA, I think an 8 year old can know that. I don't know/can't exact how children are effected by video games when they do these stuff. I've been playing GTA since I was 10, I've watched some movies that goes with violence when I'm that age but I have never been like "I should kill people!", "I should get a gun and blow some f*cking brains off.". I don't mean to be rude but I can't estimate how much a child can be effected by a video game so he/she kills people. Yes, it's dramatic to hear such things but I always wonder it. I'm not talking as a GTA fan, I'm looking at the situation in an objective way as far as I can.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 01:16 AM

QUOTE (LibSity @ Sunday, Aug 25 2013, 01:12)
QUOTE (nuer @ Saturday, Aug 24 2013, 15:10)
QUOTE (FR_Player-One @ Saturday, Aug 24 2013, 15:08)
The problem isn't GTA. The problem is USA.

This. How come I never hear about these news happening elsewhere?

http://en.wikipedia...._Norway_attacks

Here's a list of school shootings that occured in Europe. Now here's one for the United States. Which one is bigger?

Also, the Norway attacks are an example of self-radicalisation, not whatever socialisation causes yanky teens to murder all their class mates for no apparent reason- completely different. I'm sorry, but the reaction to a massive string of massacres that don't look like they're going to stop any time soon should be more along the lines of "we need to take a look at our culture" or "we need to keep kids away from guns" and not "look, these mass murders happen everywhere and are a natural fact of life, you guys."

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 01:25 AM

If my original thought is wrong and it turns out that he did shoot her:

I hope they throw the book at the little mother f*cker. Chain gang that bastard. Let him spend some time in the poky taking it up the poky. Shooting his f*cking caretaker? Weak ass punk.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 04:24 AM

In all seriousness, an 8 year old boy should not be playing GTA IV. Second, he should not have any access to a gun, period. This is the boy's parents' fault. Horrible parenting.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:02 AM

That one guy who tried to ban GTA must be ecstatic but he can't do anything or get jail time I think.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:48 AM

Since when the hell do you ''get points'' for killing people in gta IV?

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 10:35 AM

QUOTE (Irviding @ Monday, Aug 26 2013, 22:06)
why aren't we asking how the kid got the gun but instead attacking a freaking video game

Because the vast majority of Americans like to look beyond their own faults and see an excuse waiting right in front of them, regardless of whether or not said excuse makes even the slightest bit of sense.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 08:30 PM

It wasn't the game's fault. That kid had some mental problems as well.

Take me as example. I started playing games when I was 5 years old and my first game ever was GTA Vice City. And until now (I'm 15 now) it's my favorite genre.

Even I played it so much (today i finished both EFLC games at 100% completion), I am still a calm person. For example, when someone punches me really hard (like for a fight) at school, I never punch him back, I am like staying away from him for 5 mins. and then come back and we are friends again. smile.gif

So my point is:

DON'T BLAME VIDEO GAMES FOR VIOLENCE, BLAME PEOPLE WITH MENTAL PROBLEMS WHO HAVE JUST PLAYED THEM, LIKE NORMAL PEOPLE DO EVERY DAY.

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 09:14 PM

QUOTE (Maurice Del Taco @ Tuesday, Aug 27 2013, 21:30)
It wasn't the game's fault. That kid had some mental problems as well.

Take me as example. I started playing games when I was 5 years old and my first game ever was GTA Vice City. And until now (I'm 15 now) it's my favorite genre.

Even I played it so much (today i finished both EFLC games at 100% completion), I am still a calm person. For example, when someone punches me really hard (like for a fight) at school, I never punch him back, I am like staying away from him for 5 mins. and then come back and we are friends again. smile.gif

So my point is:

DON'T BLAME VIDEO GAMES FOR VIOLENCE, BLAME PEOPLE WITH MENTAL PROBLEMS WHO HAVE JUST PLAYED THEM, LIKE NORMAL PEOPLE DO EVERY DAY.

I have to agree with this point, games do not deter the actions of a human being, a parent shouldn't give a game like this top a child if he/she has issues or is incapable of being mature enough to handle it. I have always been a calm person, I play GTA loads but I couldn't do things like these.

One thing though:

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when someone punches me really hard (like for a fight) at school, I never punch him back, I am like staying away from him for 5 mins. and then come back and we are friends again.

That is the strangest thing known to man, one minute he punches you then your his friend? Oh well, at least it doesn't escalate further lol.gif

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 08:34 AM

QUOTE (GTAKid667 @ Tuesday, Aug 27 2013, 21:14)

That is the strangest thing known to man, one minute he punches you then your his friend? Oh well, at least it doesn't escalate further lol.gif

Well, he was my friend before, but we had some kind of fight (nothing big thought), and that was the reason why he punched me. But, I forgave him (like I would do any time for any person in this world), and then we are back as good friends smile.gif





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