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FearTheLiving
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#1

Posted 13 August 2013 - 11:55 PM

Basically it's a game that you state something that didn't happen within IV, The Lost and Damned, and The Ballad of Gay Tony starting with "What if..." for example.

Poster 1 "What if Niko never made it to Liberty City?"
Poster 2 "Roman would have stayed in debt and he would have lost Mallorie to Vlad's charms."

If this has been done before lock this thread up faster then someone who visits www.littlelacysurprisepageant.com

I'll begin.

What if Niko didn't betray Mikhail Faustin?

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 12:16 AM

Kenny Petrovic would send his gangsters to kill Niko. Niko managed to kill the gansters who tried to kill him, and now the whole story is about Niko, Roman and Dimitri trying to survive in Liberty City when Petrovic's people are out to get them. In the middle of the story Dimitri betrays Niko and tries to sell Niko out (if Petrovic gets Niko, Dimitri is spared). Because Dimitri fails to hand over Niko to Petrovic, Petrovic kills Dimiti by cutting his head off (similar to TBOGT) and then he sends the head to Niko (to scare Niko). The story ends with Niko killing Petrovic.

What if Niko never killed Jason?

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 01:36 AM

well in tlad jason would have been johnnys friend and could do activities like terry and clay. and jason would have probably got to have anna all by himself until mikhial would have started a war with the lost because in clean and serene johnny said about the russians that he would have to deal with the whole chapter. and maybe form an uneasy allience with aod. and people would look back and say it was all about a stupid girl.


what if elizibeta didint kill manny?

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 03:05 PM

Manny's TV show would feature the arrest of Elizibeta and a vinewood blockbuster would ensue, having Manny in a "arnie" type role, fighting crime. Niko would then appear in the TV show, and thus be tracked down by Dimitri, who'd burn down their bohan home, killing Mallorie. Roman would commit suicide and Niko would rampage.

What if Niko had killed Phill Bell instead of Ray?

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 05:35 PM

Then Ray would probably burn down The Lost Clubhouse himself, and he would certainly kill Johnny and his gang.

What if Packie was the one who got killed during Three Leaf Clover?

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 06:12 PM Edited by MarijuanaMonkey, 14 August 2013 - 10:15 PM.

Eugene Reaper (who shot Micheal in the normal scheme and he kills Packie now instead) gets killed by multiple shots of Derrick and Michael. Then the case blows up, Niko goes down the floor to get the money. Derrick and Michael would insist on themselves staying with Packie and get him out of there. Niko would try to give these guys a logical mind, he would say he's sorry too, but to be logical the police can get him if they don't make for. After a long discussion, Derrick and Micheal could find Niko's view of this situation right and so they throw their money bags to their backs, they would have a big firefight with cops in Chinatown streets, make for the subway station to lose the cops and Niko would drive them home, just like in the original "Three Leaf Clover".

After the death of Packie, Derrick and Michael would try to explain Packie's death was just an unfortunate fate and Niko had no fault in the job, Niko was the one who mostly get the things straight. However Gerry, who has had suspicions on Niko before the job, says he doesn't want Niko to hang around his family anymore, so Niko would split his way with the McRearys. So he starts working for Ray, whom he meets a while before the bank robbery. However maybe, Niko wouldn't have given a role in the kidnapping of Gracie Ancelotti, Gordon, who has records for kidnapping, would be given the job of kidnapping that b*tch.

Another scenario is Gerry gets pissed off about Packie's death and says Niko was the one with the mistakes in that job and he would get Niko out of the family, for good. After that, Derrick and Michael persuade Gerry that Niko's a good worker and he has nothing with Packie's death, so Gerry contacts with Niko back and he would have him performing conflicts between Albanians and Ancelottis. So Niko would get roles in the kidnapping of Gracie Ancelotti, the diamond deal with Gay Tony and Luis anyways, but with another partner, Gordon or Michael.

What if Luca had managed to make for Las Venturas with the diamonds?

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 07:49 PM

The heat would certainly fall on niko for that one
Ray would thus turn on niko and the diamond deal would never happen
Therefore ray would not hunt johnny and jim fitz would not die
Gay tony would likely take the blame for losing the diamonds and be in debt with the anchilottis enough so that he'd lose the club; rocco would burn it down.
Niko would not find bernie/florian so his hunt would be delayed (hold would still come through in the end) and niko would not work for the pegs. From there, there would be no 'deal/revenge' choice, and the wedding shoot out would likely not happen

What if Faustin disk order niko to kill lenny petrovic?

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 05:43 PM

Niko would have worked for him longer until Dimitri found another way to get Faustin killed, that or Dimitri would have tried to convince Mikhail to hand Niko over to Balgarin which would have resulted in Niko having another main antagonist at the end that being Faustin.

What if Johnny found out the truth about Jason that it was Niko who killed him not the Angels of Death?

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 01:48 AM

He would refuse to raid the AOD clubhouse because of the truce, and maybe the Lost would turn into a civil war earlier. Probably he would want to kill Niko too.

What if Anthony survived and talked to the feds about the Pegorino's plans?

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 02:49 AM

Pegorino himself was arrested and committed suicide in jail instead of becoming a rat. Niko evaded capture as usual, and Ray and Phil were both caught since they were on the tape too. Ray turned state's on all other members of the Pegorino family and entered the Witness Protection Program but Phil stayed quiet and spent his life in prison for the Russian Cocaine conspiracy. The Pegorino family was finished.

What if Florian Cravic hadn't become homosexual? What would his missions have been about if Bryce Dawkins wasn't involved?

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 04:48 PM

Well, if Florian hadn't become a homosexual, he wouldn't have had an sexual relationship with Bryce Dawkins, so Florian wouldn't have much money (especially for a man who comes from melting pot Serbia to America for building a new life) and Florian would rely on several loansharks to make a living, like Roman. So I think Niko would beat up his loansharks, provide him with some cash or the other things involved with loansharks and debts if Florian wasn't gay.

What if Niko had never met with Michelle?

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 05:30 PM

It's implied that the UL Paper already have eyes on Niko even before he went to America, since Michelle shows up very eraly in the game. Once he being in America, the goverment wants to know what's he wanted to do here, so they send Michelle to make a connection and trade info.

If Michelle and Niko doesn't met, probably they would find another way to reach Niko, directly or indirectly.

What if Dimitri doesn't killed Pegorino and the Pegorino's family made into the Comission after the deal?

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 09:31 PM

If the Peg somehow survived and made it into the commission Niko would still try and kill him for his involvement in the death of his cousin.

What if the diamonds didn't fall into the dump truck when Niko and Packie confronted the man that had them?

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Posted 27 November 2013 - 10:25 PM

On my latest playthrough of GTA IV Jacob suddenly turned on me for some reason in the mission: Concrete Jungle and I had to kill him (failing the mission). Obviously he wouldn't just turn on Niko like that, but it got me thinking what if Jacob had died in one his earlier missions? I figure it would be pretty much parallel up until the mission Russian Revolution, would Niko survive the ambush by Dimitri's men? Alternatively Badman could blame Niko and Roman for Jacob's death, but most likely would just assume he was taken out by the drug dealers we were meant to be fighting against.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:05 AM


What if the diamonds didn't fall into the dump truck when Niko and Packie confronted the man that had them?


then niko and packie will try to sell the diamonds assuming that no one tries to steal them again.

if bulgarin hears about this though, he will be at the meeting and tries stops niko, so niko kills bulgarin. bulgarin wont be the main enemy in TBOGT.

the hobo from the ending of TBOGT will have never found the diamonds and will remain a hobo.

what if johnny decided to take a fresh new start to try to make lots of money, without having the bullsh*t appearence of
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Posted 29 November 2013 - 09:25 AM

Then Johnny would be alive and well in LC.

 

What if Niko didn't kill Faustin?


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Posted 30 November 2013 - 09:41 PM

If Niko didn't kill Faustin, the Petrovic family would of killed Faustin. Either way, Dimitri would of soaked up to Kenny Petrovic in order to avoid a brutal war. If Niko didn't murder Faustin, Dimitri would of still betrayed Niko.

 

What if Niko accidentally had a child with Michelle? (it's possible to be invited into her house and have sexual intercourse.)


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Posted 01 December 2013 - 10:15 PM

They would call the child Marko Bellic

 

What if there was only Liberty City missions and Alderney never exist?


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Posted 19 December 2013 - 11:40 PM Edited by lilchris131, 22 December 2013 - 10:42 AM.

 

What if there was only Liberty City missions and Alderney never exist?

 

Then the Pegorinos wouldn't exist, instead the Messinas would tip off the McRearys about the Ancelotti's action (there is conflict between the two families as seen in TBoGT), and Niko would be hired by capo Mark Volpe instead of Ray Boccino. He would probably end up getting involved in the infighting with the family.

 

What if Ray sent Niko after Johnny instead of Jim?
 
And what if Luis shot Niko instead of Mori Green at the diamond deal?


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Posted 22 December 2013 - 05:37 AM

What if Ray sent Niko after Johnny instead of Jim?

 

And what if Luis shot Niko instead of Mori Green at the diamond deal?

You're suppose to answer the previous poster before doing yours. You don't just ask a bunch of what ifs.


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Posted 22 December 2013 - 10:36 AM

Ok fair point, I'll edit my post.


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Posted 04 February 2014 - 01:54 PM

Dunno if it was such a long time but...

 

 

What if Ray sent Niko after Johnny instead of Jim?

Well, Niko would try to kill Johnny with an AK-47 however Johnny would make a getaway on his Hellfury. Knowing that Niko is a dangerous person, he would leave LC earlier.

 

What if Niko, Roman and Mallorie would have been inside the Broker Safehouse when Dimitri and Bulgarin torched it down?





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