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#61

Posted 07 August 2013 - 02:42 AM

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After his last topic about laws you don't agree with and him suggesting it shouldn't be illegal to watch child pornography, and now this interest in the deep web, which seems to be thriving with child porn, i honestly believe lucid121 is a pedophile. And I'm not saying it to be funny or to make it in to quotable notables, i honestly think there is something f*cked up with this guy, and he creeps me the f*ck out.

Not to mention the rape thread which eerily sounded like he was trying to find a way to get away with rape. It does sound like he needs some help.

It's certainly enough for FBI to come "knocking" on his door.

Yeah, look, at first I thought "Okay let's not jump the gun, he's probably just curious."

But now things are starting to correlate together, you're probably a paedophile Lucid. Not that I really care though, you can do what you want I guess, you probably can't help it either.

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QUOTE (Hameer @ Tuesday, Aug 6 2013, 20:01)
QUOTE (chapapote @ Tuesday, Aug 6 2013, 19:59)
Someone could explain what exactly the Deep Web IS, instead of talking about child pornography?

This image explains it all.

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http://2.bp.blogspot...OKE/s1600/1.jpg

EDIT: Big pic, just click the link.

Hameer, thanks for quoting me inlove.gif


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 02:43 AM

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I think the assassination thing is true, LB8. You pay them with bitcoins, the money of the internet, I believe.

If it's true then why isn't there a quite a lot of targeted assassinations going on in the world? Where the f*ck are the reports for these assassinations?

Care to enlighten, fella?

Maybe the assassins are really good at their job. Just sayin'. I just don't see a reason why it would be a hoax. Illegal role playing?

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 02:44 AM Edited by theNGclan, 07 August 2013 - 02:49 AM.

The Hidden Wiki exists, and it has all kinds of links to different sites. Hitmen, drugs, child porn (Hard Candy), warez, bitcoins, Fake IDs/Drivers licenses, stolen items, ect. Think of it as the black market of the internet. You need Tor to access it, but many of the nodes for Tor itself are hosted by the NSA.

To those of you who claim it's fake, why don't you go check it out? Look at it yourself and get caught.

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#64

Posted 07 August 2013 - 02:50 AM Edited by Raavi, 07 August 2013 - 03:26 AM.

Deep Web = Don't.

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 03:22 AM

I haven't looked through any onion sites (mostly out of fear and disinterest, it actually took three visits to The Onion Router's website before I built up the courage to actually download it a couple years ago) but a lot of the stuff people talk about being the "deep web" are available and (if you know where to look) very accessible on the "surface web." It seems like making something an onion site is just another layer of security (onions, layers happy.gif ).

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 09:10 AM

Some things on deep web are good. But I would never touch childporn or drugs etc... I use deep web for global news

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:02 AM Edited by Shyabang Shyabang, 07 August 2013 - 10:07 AM.

QUOTE (rudy. @ Tuesday, Aug 6 2013, 17:43)
QUOTE (HUGOHL @ Tuesday, Aug 6 2013, 18:10)
I think the assassination thing is true, LB8. You pay them with bitcoins, the money of the internet, I believe.

If it's true then why isn't there a quite a lot of targeted assassinations going on in the world? Where the f*ck are the reports for these assassinations?

Care to enlighten, fella?

It does happen. Most of it happen to the victims who aren't famous, which is why you rarely see them on the news. However, you can see some of them on crime show documentaries. I also remember watching a documentary about cops busting suicide websites. I read news about group suicides that were arranged through those websites. And I watched on the same documentary the cops busting a suicide attempt. The cops found out when they were tracking one of the websites. I guess this one wasn't in the "deep web" because the cops were able to track the IP addresses. They sent the unconscious girl to the hospital and arrested the guy who was encouraging her. The two met through his website.

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#68

Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:05 AM Edited by sivispacem, 07 August 2013 - 10:12 AM.

I've posted something to this extent in a previous thread on the same issue, but what's being described here isn't the deep web. It's an element of the deep web- F2F private file sharing, I2P communications and virtual networks, for the most part, but the deep web is a catch-all term for anything that isn't indexed. It's much, much bigger than the surface web, but the overwhelmingly vast majority of it is both accessible outside of onion routing or friend-to-friend private networks, and completely benign. It comprises things like applets that aren't indexed by search engines, web interfaces for accessing extranet or internet-facing hardware using specialist protocols, SCADA and other industrial control systems, dynamic content an dynamically hosted pages, anything that's securely accessed, passworded or otherwise no indexable, unlinked content, non-HTML content and a whole raft of other things.

The networks reachable by Tor are effectively the same thing as securely accessed content. They're part of the deep web (usually referred to as the "darknet") in that they aren't crawled and aren't directly accessible to conventional web browsing, but utilise a particular protocol in order to be accessed. Tor is far from the only method of accessing resources of this kind- there are numerous other distributed, anonymous, secure peer-to-peer services, plus VPNs and all manner of other things. Tor just gets a great deal of attention because it's practically the only one that's partially accessible to the general public. The rest are invitation-only services and probably about a million times sketchier.

As an interesting aside, the Tor protocol implementation in Windows, using the software basis of the Firefox browser, is and has been fundamentally flawed for some time. It's actually possible to exploit the implementation of the Tor protocol in order to move users outside of the encrypted, distributed, multi-layered peer-to-peer communication system and effectively direct them into the surface web, thereby identifying the end user. So a word of warning to anyone using the Tor browser implementation on Windows operating systems for nefarious purposes- it's not secure any more (and probably won't be for some time; the later implementations of Firefox have fixed this exploit but the Tor browser is still using Firefox 17 as its base) and it is actually pretty trivial to identify you. Plus Tor is susceptible to man-in-the-middle attacks, as are all implementations of TLS.

I use Tor for OSINT purposes, solely because it allows you to dynamically change your visible IP address which is extremely useful for conducting reconnaissance and research on organisations who are likely to log and collate the IP addresses of visitors. Like organised cybercrime actors and various hacktivist groups.

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:16 AM

I really haven't heard of the term 'deep web' before. I knew that there were a lot of forbidden websites out there, but I never searched for those websites.

Once I accidentally came upon a website where people could hire hackers. I was researching a Trojan virus that entered my old computer. I googled the name of that virus and discovered a website where people upset at other online users were hiring hackers. It's amazing how easy it is to find that site.

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:35 AM

If Tor isnt secure what is there that is secure?

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:40 AM

Been there. Not interesting unless you're a terrorist/criminal.

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:44 AM

I still don't understand, can someone briefly explain it in a simplified form to me?

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#73

Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:46 AM

OH MA GAWD THE DEEP WEB... NO!!!!

Alright this is bullsh*t and some of 'yall need to be schooled. The deep web isn't in itself illegal. Alot of the stuff on there is though. It has actually helped A LOT of people. Womens rights bloggers in Iran and others wishing to speak out against oppressive regimes now have the opportunity to do so due to Tor giving you an anon identity. That said you do get kiddie fiddlers and sh*t on there as well.

Secondly the deep web isn't some big bad taboo place that only a few select few can go. I mean it was funded by the US Navy for gods sake. It's original purpose was to be a tool for online anonymity. It is part of the internet. It has everything that the normal internet has as well as some sites which are only available through those who use TOR. For the majority of these sites you don't need codes or passwords etc. You simply open up Tor and paste the Onion url for the site into the address bar. You have to be in Tor though. If you paste that URL in the clearnet then the page won't load.

Thirdly it isn't hard or illegal to access. Seriously you don't even need to be good at computers to do it. Literally google "The Tor Project" and you can freely download the Tor Browser Bundle (Choose the most recent updated version) to your computer. There you've done it. You can now browse the deep web. If someone acts like they're some hotshot internet whizz kid for assessing that sh*t then theyr'e a moron... plain and simple.

The hidden wiki is bullsh*t as well. A lot of the links on it lead to phising sites so beware. Basically when browsing the deep web be diligent. You do get alot of f*cked up sh*t on it. There's a manual written for how to have sex with a dog on there. That said you get alot of cool people who value there privacy and don't want the government invading every aspect of there lives.

Also if you use the deep web to get drugs (Silkroad, atlantis, BMR etc) please please please don't go spouting that sh*t off over the clearnet etc. It's highly illegal and it's a massive f*ck you to law enforcement. Use your common sense.

Also I can't beleive that people actually think you can hire hitmen over the deep web. Like seriously.... It's obviously a complete and utter scam and to be honest if your stupid enough to hire a hitman over the internet then you deserve to lose your money.
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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:50 AM

QUOTE (AceKingston @ Wednesday, Aug 7 2013, 21:44)
I still don't understand, can someone briefly explain it in a simplified form to me?

All you need to know is that not everything on the internet is indexed by google. These sites are hidden away and are difficult to find specifically to keep them away from the authorities.

Unless you have a need for child porn, or other really shady frowned upon activities, don't try go there. You're more likely to pick up viruses, or get hacked or something like that if you dig around too far. As well as getting in trouble with the authorities because you can't cover your tracks properly when you accidentally visit child porn sites or some sh*t like that.


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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:51 AM

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If Tor isnt secure what is there that is secure?

Tor itself isn't insecure; its implementation in the Tor browser for Windows is.

All forms of public and hybrid public-private key cryptography are prone to man-in-the-middle attacks.

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:52 AM

QUOTE (finn4life @ Wednesday, Aug 7 2013, 16:20)
QUOTE (AceKingston @ Wednesday, Aug 7 2013, 21:44)
I still don't understand, can someone briefly explain it in a simplified form to me?

All you need to know is that not everything on the internet is indexed by google. These sites are hidden away and are difficult to find specifically to keep them away from the authorities.

Unless you have a need for child porn, or other really shady frowned upon activities, don't try go there. You're more likely to pick up viruses, or get hacked or something like that if you dig around too far. As well as getting in trouble with the authorities because you can't cover your tracks properly when you accidentally visit child porn sites or some sh*t like that.

Well, doesn't look like I'll be going there, thanks finn.

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 10:57 AM

Word to the Wise.

Stay far the f*ck away from deep web.

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 11:05 AM

Would be neat to have the deep web in GTA5!

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 11:24 AM Edited by orbitalraindrops, 07 August 2013 - 11:30 AM.

Sivi is right in regards to the tor browser bundle being vulnerable however from reading the tor project site it seems that the most recent exploit only works if your using firefox outside of version 22.0 or 17.07. If you download the latest browser bundle it should do it for you and you can always double check in the readme. It's not illegal to use Tor folks!


Security announcement regarding Tor Browser Bundles
https://lists.torpro...ust/000089.html


Site itself
https://www.torproje...g/index.html.en


Don't understand how Tor works?
https://www.torproje...verview.html.en

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 01:53 PM

QUOTE (orbitalraindrops @ Wednesday, Aug 7 2013, 12:24)
Sivi is right in regards to the tor browser bundle being vulnerable however from reading the tor project site it seems that the most recent exploit only works if your using firefox outside of version 22.0 or 17.07. If you download the latest browser bundle it should do it for you and you can always double check in the readme. It's not illegal to use Tor folks!


Security announcement regarding Tor Browser Bundles
https://lists.torpro...ust/000089.html


Site itself
https://www.torproje...g/index.html.en


Don't understand how Tor works?
https://www.torproje...verview.html.en

I didn't realise it had been patched that quickly. It's been exploited in the wild for identifying paedophiles. Now all you need to really worry about are MITM attacks and HTML 5 timing attacks that allow an attacker to render a page perfectly based regardless of how it is transported or whether or not it is encrypted or obfuscated.

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 07:29 PM

QUOTE (finn4life @ Wednesday, Aug 7 2013, 02:42)
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QUOTE (Hameer @ Tuesday, Aug 6 2013, 20:01)
QUOTE (chapapote @ Tuesday, Aug 6 2013, 19:59)
Someone could explain what exactly the Deep Web IS, instead of talking about child pornography?

This image explains it all.

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http://2.bp.blogspot...OKE/s1600/1.jpg

EDIT: Big pic, just click the link.

Hameer, thanks for quoting me inlove.gif


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Alright this is bullsh*t and some of 'yall need to be schooled. The deep web isn't in itself illegal. Alot of the stuff on there is though. It has actually helped A LOT of people. Womens rights bloggers in Iran and others wishing to speak out against oppressive regimes now have the opportunity to do so due to Tor giving you an anon identity. That said you do get kiddie fiddlers and sh*t on there as well.


I'm pretty sure the deep web is illegal, but Tor isn't. Tor can be used differently. It can be used with bad intentions (posting CP and gore, and hiring hitmen and hackers), but it can also be used with good intentions, like for people who want to speak out about something, but they can't because their regime have blocked a lot of pages. Tor itself isn't illegal because it only hides your identity, and you can still access all the pages from the "surface internet".

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Posted 07 August 2013 - 07:44 PM

Deep web isnt illegal, just some of its stuff is

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 12:06 AM

I use the '' Deep web'' to watch wwe ppv's for free. f*ck paying for that sh*t. $50 for a 3 hour show and only an hour is good if you're lucky ? The price tag is way too much if you ask me

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 12:07 AM

QUOTE (im_stoned @ Thursday, Aug 8 2013, 00:06)
I use the '' Deep web'' to watch wwe ppv's for free. f*ck paying for that sh*t. $50 for a 3 hour show and only an hour is good if you're lucky ? The price tag is way too much if you ask me

Why use the deep web to do that when you can do it on the "normal web".

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 12:08 AM

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I use the '' Deep web'' to watch wwe ppv's for free. f*ck paying for that sh*t. $50 for a 3 hour show and only an hour is good if you're lucky ? The price tag is way too much if you ask me

Why use the deep web to do that when you can do it on the "normal web".

Chronic paranoia.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 12:19 AM Edited by im_stoned, 08 August 2013 - 12:23 AM.

QUOTE (thebodies @ Thursday, Aug 8 2013, 00:07)
QUOTE (im_stoned @ Thursday, Aug 8 2013, 00:06)
I use the '' Deep web'' to watch wwe ppv's for free. f*ck paying for that sh*t. $50 for a 3 hour show and only an hour is good if you're lucky ? The price tag is way too much if you ask me

Why use the deep web to do that when you can do it on the "normal web".

I assumed they were the same thing ? I do want to say I went to a live show once so despite stealing their content I have atleast given them money in some other way.

I don't support piracy unless you chip in money from time to time. With music for example I listen to a lot of sh*t on youtube which is illegal but I will make an effort to buy someones cd if I really like the album their've made. People always say i'm wrong for doing this and I am but why wouldn't you take advantage of it ? It's not like these companies/ artist are struggling because of what people like me do.

I'm a hypocrite but I don't support downloading games illegally. I mean if you weren't going to buy the game anyway and it's not really you're taste but you want to give it a try all the power too you. I just think if you're A fan of a game the dumbest thing you can do is download it. It's harder for games to make money they can't do concerts. Sponsors don't poor in a ton of money into RDR because they can't put their logo in the game ect. This goes for everything you pirate mind you. If you like something support it or it might not make it.

I can pirate wwe worry free because the whole shows one giant commercial essentially

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 12:30 AM

QUOTE (im_stoned @ Thursday, Aug 8 2013, 00:19)
With music for example I listen to a lot of sh*t on youtube which is illegal

Youtube isn't illegal... I think.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 12:48 AM

Been on it once. Never again.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 01:00 AM

I can't swim, so no deep web for me.


Being serious though, I can't believe this is the first time I've heard of this. Guess my browser history isn't as bad as I thought it was knowing that there are people that use the deep web.

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 10:39 AM Edited by GtaOutKast, 08 August 2013 - 10:48 AM.

Never heard of it but I took a look at the comments in here and looked up some information on 'Tor' and 'The Hidden Wiki' on this video:

Don't think I will ever try it out.
EDIT: All the type of categorical sites such as drugs, weapons, Hitman are insane.




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