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#1321

Posted 5 days ago

http://mashable.com/...r/#T.UkWjjpgsqp


A recap of the trailer that was shown. Obvious spoiler warning.

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#1322

Posted 5 days ago

Well if the above is any indication, we'll likely be seeing some of the good guys fighting each other (because of what those other characters are capable of making other people do). Loki sure as hell doesn't seem to learn either, does he? Wouldn't be remotely surprised if he's one of the deaths of the Infinity War films.


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#1323

Posted 4 days ago Edited by darthYENIK, 4 days ago.

Did I forget to show my excitement about the Iron Spider suit?

That was amazing. I thought we were going to get the scene I desperately wanted in Civil War (from the comic), which is the unveiling of Spider-man as Peter Parker at a press conference being held by Tony Stark. But I'm so happy they didn't do it. Because Peter needs to be a kid.

Spider-man: Homecoming feels the most like a comic book a movie has ever been. It has Iron Man showing up here and there, not quite co-starring as much as cameoing. Which is something you see in solo character comic books. Civil War was very comic book feeling, but it felt like an event comic, as Civil War was. This movie felt like an arc of the Amazing Spider-Man. Wholly connected to the MCU, but it's own thing. This is something some MCU movies just don't feel like they do well. Doctor Strange, Thor 2, Incredible Hulk (if you count it). Even Winter Soldier (even as my favorite MCU movie) feels a bit disconnected. But Homecoming feels like you could go to a comic book store and find a Dan Slott book that they used to adapt to film.

Speaking of Dan Slott, I hope that if they ever bring Doctor Octopus into these movies, that we eventually get Superior Spider-Man. People might hate it, but I'd love to see Holland act like SpOck.

Edit: another observation. He never goes to Manhattan. You never see Spidey swinging around time square, or hanging off of the Empire State Building.
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#1324

Posted 4 days ago

Yea they avoided all the Spider-Man film tropes that have been done in the last few films which is what made it so refreshing and different compared to them, though, I'd have had very mixed feelings if they did the whole Civil War revealing his identity thing, I wasn't fond of it, particularly because of the way they retconned it in the most stupid way as they realised Spidey's secret identity is such a big part of the character.

 

The suits super cool though, I was surprised to see some hate for it online but it looked great to me too.


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#1325

Posted 4 days ago

AND ANOTHER THING!

Not really a gripe or even observation, just what I would've wanted from Tony Stark, if you could ask more of the character. He did good as the mentor, but I wish he would've talked about his motivations behind being Peter's mentor a bit more. I would've loved if he said this after the ferry scene when he takes the suit:

"I'm a hero, but I'm flawed. I've let a lot of people down because I put my own desire to save the world ahead of the world itself. I wasn't ready to be a hero, and I rushed into situations where I got people hurt. A whole city was destroyed because I made the mistake of rushing the creation of Ultron. The love of my life was kidnapped by a terrorist because I shot my mouth off at him after he hurt another friend of mine. She would've died and nothing I did prevented that. I didn't want you to make those same mistakes. But you are."

I get that Tony has somewhat recovered from what happened in Civil War, finding out his parents were murdered, that Cap knew. And maybe this movie wasn't the place to demonstrate Tony's character development, but I would've liked to have seen that arc a bit. That he's trying to be the moral center of the Avengers in the vacuum left by Cap. That maybe Cap was more right about the sokovia accords and all of that, than he was willing to admit.

But please don't take this as any sort of criticism of the movie, as it probably works better without it.
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#1326

Posted 4 days ago

Usually I'd ignore any new spidey movies, since I grew up with the Raimi films. But I was actually interested in this one, cuz Marvel got the rights to make the movies, and do things their way. I thought it was p dope, although I agree with the suit being too OOC. And I have a love-hate relationship with Ned, kinda funny, but kinda annoying.


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#1327

Posted 4 days ago

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Spider-man: Homecoming feels the most like a comic book a movie has ever been. It has Iron Man showing up here and there, not quite co-starring as much as cameoing. Which is something you see in solo character comic books. Civil War was very comic book feeling, but it felt like an event comic, as Civil War was. This movie felt like an arc of the Amazing Spider-Man. Wholly connected to the MCU, but it's own thing.(...)

That's a very apt way to describe it. While the MCU formula might be starting to wear thin in certain regards, Phase 3 really shines at translating the whole interconnected universe aspect from the comics better than ever before. Civil War was an event, Homecoming was like a random issue of USM and now Ragnarok is shaping up to be a small team-up crossover that just happens as a part of a small story arc between Thor, Hulk with Strange dropping in for one ish.

 

I still haven't posted my impressions of Homecoming itself here (more or less for the same reasons I did not for GotG2) and that is because while I enjoyed it, I'm not sure if I can say that I liked it. It was much, much better than I expected, but still not what I wanted. Too many small creative decisions that I just can't agree with. I guess I'll say that it was a fun movie, but not for me and leave it at that. I don't want to get into the nitty-gritty and rag too much here, there are other venues to do that. The important thing to take away is that this is the first good Spidey movie in thirteen (!!!) years, Feige knows what role Spidey should play in the MCU and there's a lot of promise for Peter's growth over the next few movies.

 

I thought Tony didn't do a particulary good job as a mentor, but then I have to remember that it *is* Tony Stark, so it's completely appropriate and in-character. For him, character development still means screwing up. He was still involved and obviously cared about Peter way beyond him being an asset, but he just didn't know how to actually act as a mentor. I hope that we'll see something closer to the early Bendis' New Avengers dynamic between Tony and Peter in Infinity War. What we've already been told gives me hope.

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Spock would be awesome, but given that this is Sony running the show, I'm worried that sooner or later they'll waste him in a dumb non-canon spin-off in their Spider-verse. This is the worst thing about all of this - while Homecoming, despite all the problems I had with the execution of it - gave me so much hope for future Spidey movies, we still have Sony running the whole show to the ground right out of the gate. Again. There was a ton of enticing worldbuilding for the Spiderfamily and their enemies in this movie, but it all might be just wasted. Being a Spider-fan is indeed suffering.

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#1328

Posted 3 days ago

Yet to watch Homecoming. I grew up with Raimi's movies and it had a very adult sort of feeling about Parker's life and took a serious tone from sequel. While Garfield's movies were great and scientifically explained stuff as a part of a separate storyline, it wasn't that well received. Between those movies, I'm not sure where I'll be with this one.
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#1329

Posted 3 days ago

Concept Art:

The King is home!

 

Like a Lion standing upon its throne.

 

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#1330

Posted 13 hours ago

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