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Posted 04 July 2014 - 04:32 AM Edited by El_Diablo, 04 July 2014 - 04:33 AM.

the media absolutely affects this particular issue.

 

you can't exactly perform a "study" on this idea, but I'm personally convinced that the world today has more pedophiles in it than it would naturally thanks directly to the impact of our hypersexualized beauty and fashion industry. not porn, and not TV, and not movies, but the mainstream fashion and beauty industry (clothing, makeup, etc). they specifically go out of their way to focus on an unnatural and unhealthy image of what they think an attractive person is supposed to look like and it's sick.

 

since the turn of the last century, mainstream fashion and beauty around the world has been geared toward the skinniest possible models who are all thoroughly waxed from head to toe and clean shaven like prepubescent children. this is not natural and it's not healthy; it's not healthy physically for the models themselves and it's not healthy for society. our standards for what should and should not be a sexual object have become totally f*cked. the natural standard for beauty used to be maturity and fitness, not skin and bone. the most desirable women were those who were in shape, ate a healthy diet, had 'child bearing hips,'  etc etc. for hundreds of thousands of years this was the normal and natural way of attraction; just look at ALL of human art before the last 125 years. you don't see the kind of women we see in magazines today, you see women like this:

 

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I submit that society knew exactly what normal beauty was supposed to look like until recently.

normal, healthy looking, adult women.

 

the kind of chemical imbalance that would otherwise cause someone to be born a pedophile is no longer the only factor in certain people become pedophiles.

this world we have constructed is breeding more sexual deviants where there wouldn't be.

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Posted 07 July 2014 - 10:51 PM

I seriously can't believe this thread.

 

 

I just hope I die before people start trying to justify bestiality.

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#153

Posted 08 July 2014 - 07:32 AM

I seriously can't believe this thread.


If that's all you have to contribute to it it would be better you didn't bother at all. Check the D&D rules please.
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Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:40 AM Edited by Myron, 12 July 2014 - 03:44 AM.

If I were attracted to kids I would kill myself and I advise anyone who is to follow suit, or at least hide in eternal shame. A modern liberal society does not accept it like homosexuality for the same reason it doesn't accept people with a strong compulsion to murder so yes these freaks should be oppressed and if that comes in the form of prison justice a la a dumbbell to the head then I personally would not cry at their funeral. It's pretty sick that anyone would defend this, but then again typhus is an admitted aforementioned freak.

on another note el diablo's notion that modern media culture exacerbates this due to women shaving their crotches and being thin is complete trash
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Posted 12 July 2014 - 04:57 AM

on another note el diablo's notion that modern media culture exacerbates this due to women shaving their crotches and being thin is complete trash

I could cite studies saying otherwise but why bother with you...

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 10:00 AM


on another note el diablo's notion that modern media culture exacerbates this due to women shaving their crotches and being thin is complete trash

I could cite studies saying otherwise but why bother with you...

'You can't exactly perform a study on this but... '

Nice work bro.

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 10:55 AM

In certain anthropological constructs, an adult-child relationship might not be abuse. Our modern society is not one of those. Romantic interest, even should it mutually exist in that situation, isn't sustainable, and true romantic interest has sustainability as a goal. So on the topic of whether paedophilic acts can gain acceptance with better understanding, no. Not here and now anyway, nor should they.

The fear and hate mongering surrounding this subject must change, though. Not only because it's wildly unfair to the pedophile (in particular those disinclined to be harmful) but also to the children at risk.

Most pedophiles are normal people. A great many recognize that to act on their impulse is almost certainly abuse. A great many would never harm a child, at about the same rate of the rest of the population. A great many are disinclined to take sexual advantage of anyone of any age, at about the same rate as the rest of the population.

The draconian laws involved (for example, if I were two draw 2 stick figures in a compromising position, and then write age 8 on the paper, with an arrow pointing to one of them, in many jurisdictions I am equally guilty of producing child pornography as someone who videotaped a molestation) make it hard to get the proper mental help that someone dedicated to controlling their urges may need.

People get turned in all the time, by professionals they sought out, for trying to do the right thing. It's like when people were ignorant enough to think every homosexual was a pedophile. Now people think every pedophile's a rapist. It's simply not true.

It also means that for every story of a guy who tries to find professional help, and at the least gets publicly outed and his home and life turned upside-down by an investigation, there's a guy who hears that story and decides trying his best to be his best is too great a risk. The therapist who outed the original guy thought she was trying to help, but she's put all the children around the second guy at a greater degree of risk.

This is a topic I feel strongly about, but my phone's about to die, so I will clarify and expound on this at some point in the next day or so.
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Posted 12 July 2014 - 11:03 AM Edited by HolographicBunny, 12 July 2014 - 11:27 AM.

If I were attracted to kids I would kill myself and I advise anyone who is to follow suit, or at least hide in eternal shame. A modern liberal society does not accept it like homosexuality for the same reason it doesn't accept people with a strong compulsion to murder so yes these freaks should be oppressed and if that comes in the form of prison justice a la a dumbbell to the head then I personally would not cry at their funeral. It's pretty sick that anyone would defend this, but then again typhus is an admitted aforementioned freak.

on another note el diablo's notion that modern media culture exacerbates this due to women shaving their crotches and being thin is complete trash

A) That's an easy thing to say from outside the situation, but you wouldn't jump enthusiastically at the chance to kill yourself if your hypothetical was true. That's kind of ignorant.

B) How's this for an alternative to suicide or resignment to wallow stagnant in a pit of abject shame? If you can't be proud of all the things you are, you can at least be proud of how you fight against the things in yourself you don't like.

C) I must confess I half-skimmed the whole thread before I weighed in, but I have great confidence in my ability to derive content that way. If I did miss something, my preemptive apologies. You did though, specifically use the word compulsion, as opposed to action.

As far as I read, we were discussing pedophilia the condition, not pedophilia the act. Considering that, are you genuinely advocating the concept of thought police? Or did you only think it through as far as "Pedophiles are bad, mmm'kay?" before you started typing?

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 11:43 AM

there's no defense for pedophilia.

being sexually attracted to children is a disease of the mind. it's not healthy for the adult and it's certainly not healthy for the child.
even if it's not rape, it's still wrong. consent from a child does not make having sex with a child right or acceptable; it doesn't matter if you coerced the child into consent because it's still coercion on the part of the adult who is supposed to be mature and responsible.

children can have sex with children. that's relatively normal.
2 people of the same age (or very close together, in the same school) exploring their sexuality is normal.

an adult seeking out sex with a child (because they're a child) is not normal.
it's indefensible.


And here we have another individual incapable of distinguishing the condition from the act. Of course an adult seeking out sex w/ a child is indefensible. What about in the situation of a pedophile who's very aware of that? Are impure thoughts indefensible? Are only certain impure thoughts defensible? How would
you go about policing/legislating desire?

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 11:53 AM

Pedophile or not, if an adult touches a child in any sort of sexual manner, no, that person should not be seriously defended. That person should be tortured and killed. Period.

If you're sexually attracted to children and you can't control it than you should commit suicide immediately because you have serious f*cking issues, and because someone else will probably kill you for it anyways.


We don't disagree that adult/child sexual contact is just plain not ok, but torture, huh? Way to make a moral stand. :/

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 02:21 PM

Whilst I welcome your intelligent contributions, please edit posts before multiple posting in the future.

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Posted 12 July 2014 - 03:14 PM Edited by CenMan, 12 July 2014 - 03:15 PM.

HolographicBunny, would you consider watching child pornography as harmful? While I agree that not all pedophiles are rapists, I would guess (of course I can't say I know) that a significant portion of them watches child pornography. One might say that it is harmful because it creates a demand for child pornogrpahy, but it might also be true that a lot of it is made because the producer gets a kick out of it, not for financial gain. We can say for certain that when it is watched, it has already been produced and the only harm done is another person seeing it, probably without the knowledge of the child or his/her family. I haven't looked at any studies, but I can imagine that child pornography might satisfy some urges, preventing an actual molestation. But then again, I can also imagine the opposite being true.

 

My personal opinion is that when people are caught with child pornography, they should undergo psychological/psychiatric treatment, forcefully if necessary. I think the overtness of it (to what extent the person's surroundings become aware of the treatment) and the forcefulness of it should be judged on a case by case basis. A high risk case should be treated in a closed institution, lower risk cases could go on with their lives while undergoing the treatment. People who have molested children should without a doubt be in a closed institution or in prison with treatment. People who can't be helped by treatment should, unfortunately for them, be put in a closed institution indefinitely.


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Posted 12 July 2014 - 08:02 PM Edited by El_Diablo, 12 July 2014 - 09:51 PM.

'You can't exactly perform a study on this but... '

 

because none of them are definitive.

but instance of pedophilia predation has been on the rise since the about the 1930's. you can look it up.

 

the research that's been done has to deal with the simple conflict of rise in statistics.

the reason it's not conclusive is because you'd have to consider the fact that we simply didn't track clinical pedophilia prior to the turn of the last century. so the rise in numbers might also be due to mere awareness more than anything. interestingly enough, this theory was born out of accidental results from studies that dealt with female (and even male) body image / self esteem based on the media.

 

those studies were never focused on the unintended effects that our media has on sexual predation, but the consequences they reveal appear regardless. so you're not exactly going to find literature that is worded in such context. which is why I said what I said originally...

 

either way, pedophilia appears to be more prevalent in recent society than historically.

which is why those studies will never be definitive, but they're out there, and why my theory is actually more than "trash."


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Posted 22 August 2014 - 01:38 AM Edited by Eden1023, 22 August 2014 - 01:39 AM.

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Posted 13 September 2014 - 03:48 AM

I dont understand some of these people's posts. Its never f*cking okay to abuse a child. EVER. end of story. It's abuse because it harms these children. thats what abuse is. Anyone who believes that there are certain cases where its okay might as well be Satan himself. Its not that these abusers have these desires (because i do believe some of them cannot control it) its that they ACT upon them! Sorry if you dont agree. you dont have to, but thats my opinion


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Posted 13 September 2014 - 07:47 AM

I dont understand some of these people's posts. Its never f*cking okay to abuse a child.

I don't know where you've got the idea that anyone ever said it was okay?
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Posted 16 September 2014 - 09:10 PM

 

I dont understand some of these people's posts. Its never f*cking okay to abuse a child.

I don't know where you've got the idea that anyone ever said it was okay?

 

 is it inherently wrong to sexualise children the way we do adults?

 

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    • This statement implies that it is necessary to ask the question whether it is right to be sexual towards children the way we are to adults

      Why should one even have to ASK that question? It implies that some people would believe it IS okay. Which of course, it isn't. Also, this person writes "is it abuse because children are supposed to be off limits or is it abuse because children are not taught to consent the way adults are" (that's not the exact quote but that's what is said) This statement, in my opinion is ridiculous as well because children are not SUPPOSED to be taught to consent as adults and NO sh*t that children are off limits. THEYRE CHILDREN for God's sake!


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Posted 16 September 2014 - 09:53 PM

 is it inherently wrong to sexualise children the way we do adults?

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    • This statement implies that it is necessary to ask the question whether it is right to be sexual towards children the way we are to adults

      Why should one even have to ASK that question? It implies that some people would believe it IS okay. Which of course, it isn't. Also, this person writes "is it abuse because children are supposed to be off limits or is it abuse because children are not taught to consent the way adults are" (that's not the exact quote but that's what is said) This statement, in my opinion is ridiculous as well because children are not SUPPOSED to be taught to consent as adults and NO sh*t that children are off limits. THEYRE CHILDREN for God's sake!

 

I've known myself to completely screw up the wording of my replies, making my point not clear, but I'll give it a shot here anyway.

 

I can answer the first part of what you were saying, rhetoric or not. The general reason people ask questions is so that they can further their knowledge - in this case, it's understanding why the answer is yes/no. Sure, you may think that a question such as this has an obvious answer that is 'right', but it's pretty useless if you don't know why you 'should' be thinking that - a bad thing, in all. It's basically just adopting the opinions of other people without bothering to make your own - which kinda defeats the point of opinions. Look at the discussion it's generated; simply saying "of course it isn't" is a very blunt statement with little meaning. And yes, some people do think it's okay - as the OP said, entire cultures thought/think it's okay. 

 

As for the second part, you pretty much show what I'm talking about. You just throw the question away with the only reasoning being "they're children". Oh, won't somebody think of the children! Simply "they're children" doesn't answer the question - children shouldn't eat pizza because they're children for god's sake! Look how useless that it. What trait(s) universal to children lead to the conclusion, and how do they lead to it? That's what this discussion is about. 

 

It's certainly not trying to justify abusing children, it's just discussion.

Especially since it's moved to general "are paedophiles bad" which is a tad removed from abusing children. 


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Posted 25 September 2014 - 03:11 AM Edited by Sting4S, 25 September 2014 - 03:13 AM.

If I were attracted to kids I would kill myself and I advise anyone who is to follow suit, or at least hide in eternal shame.

That is the silliest thing I've read in ages. Why would you kill yourself if you had an attraction to kids? And why should anyone who does follow suit or hide in shame? Nobody chooses to be physically attracted to anyone/thing. I mean you can try to force yourself to but in truth you can't. Being attracted to kids is nothing to kill yourself about or to even be ashamed of unless you're sick enough to do anything creepy/perverted.

 

Myron, please just think before you post next time.


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Posted 25 September 2014 - 09:19 AM Edited by Doc Rikowski, 25 September 2014 - 09:21 AM.

Why in truth you can't? Self-control and will power can used to contain yourself in relation to a number of things.

I quit smoking almost 2 years ago and every day I fight the urge to smoke a cigarette.

The urge is still there but I fight it with self-control and will power cause I know getting back to the habit is bad for me.

 

Same goes for former alcoholics, sex addicts, drug addicts, food addicts, gambling addicts.

 

Even on a daily basis we have to control ourselves in a number of occasions.

We have to control our rage, frustration, depressive moments, appetite etc

 

Life is all about attitude.

 

This of course doesn't mean that each of us will be successful at self-control but at the same time it doesn't mean a pedophile should get a free pass because "in truth" he can't control himself.

 

Also, being attracted to kids is already creepy and perverted.

Pedophiles are never just "attracted", they put in action their attraction by abusing kids or by watching kid porn which is also an abuse.

Let's not lose focus please.


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Posted 25 September 2014 - 10:17 AM

I think there's a point in life where there are certain things that people shouldn't hold a shield up against. Say that a man is attracted to horses, whether or not this man is a brony is completely irrelevant, but nevertheless, such a thing shouldn't simply be accepted as normal. Despite what the collective hipster consciousness believes, there are certain things that are disgusting and unacceptable. If you're having sex with a creature that cannot grant consent, it's basically the same as somebody who didn't grant you consent whatsoever. Molestation, rape, whatever you want to call it. It's disgusting. There are people who must adapt to the rules of a society, this is an inalienable rule, without exception. Considering pacifying rapists and child molesters, akin to people who practice beastiality, is one of the many forms of trying to eliminate natural selection. These traits must be eradicated completely from the human experience, without question. There are no ifs, ands, or buts, when you're dealing with creeps who need to be admitted to mental institutions until they die and have their unnecessary, disgusting traits eliminated from the human gene pool.

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 11:50 AM Edited by Sting4S, 26 September 2014 - 02:27 PM.

Pedophiles are never just "attracted", they put in action their attraction by abusing kids or by watching kid porn which is also an abuse.
Let's not lose focus please.

Not all pedophiles act on their attractions. Think for a second now. Being a pedophile doesn't automatically make you a person with no self control.
 
Judging from what I've read last night and this morning, people still seem to have a lot of stereotypical and generalized views on pedophiles. You all think that they're all the same and all want to abuse/molest children. This to me is just ignorant and I'm just going to refrain from arguing on this matter anymore because it's just not worth it. I can't deal with hate induced by ignorance.
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Posted 25 September 2014 - 05:11 PM Edited by RedDagger, 25 September 2014 - 05:13 PM.

Say that a man is attracted to horses, whether or not this man is a brony is completely irrelevant

Your pointless mention of bronies here makes me wonder just how you are thinking. Attraction to horses, then bronies? Gee, this means that the rest of the post is going to contain tripe! Hooray!

 

but nevertheless, such a thing shouldn't simply be accepted as normal. .

It's not.

 

 If you're having sex with a creature that cannot grant consent, it's basically the same as somebody who didn't grant you consent whatsoever. Molestation, rape, whatever you want to call it. It's disgusting.

Here we go, here's the jump from 'has an attraction' to 'rape'. Anyway, ignoring that, sex with animals=rape? is a whole other can of worms that I'm not going to open here. Still, I get the point that was made here, rape and molestation is bad. 

 

Considering pacifying rapists and child molesters, akin to people who practice beastiality, is one of the many forms of trying to eliminate natural selection. These traits must be eradicated completely from the human experience, without question. There are no ifs, ands, or buts, when you're dealing with creeps who need to be admitted to mental institutions until they die and have their unnecessary, disgusting traits eliminated from the human gene pool

Well, there's a whole lot I disagree with here. For starters, not killing these kinds of people isn't 'trying to eliminate natural selection', since we'd have to manually 'eradicate' all these people ourselves.

In the thread there's been a whole lot of discussion of why paedophiles aren't these horrible, horrible people you talk about, and it's not even opinion that paedophiles aren't all rapists/child molesters.

Finally, you go on to eugenics, and even though that's yet another can of worms that personally I would say in itself is stupid, applying it to paedophiles based on the flawed reasoning you've stated just seems like a fairly terrible, and ignorant, idea. 


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Posted 25 September 2014 - 05:42 PM

 

Say that a man is attracted to horses, whether or not this man is a brony is completely irrelevant

Your pointless mention of bronies here makes me wonder just how you are thinking. Attraction to horses, then bronies? Gee, this means that the rest of the post is going to contain tripe! Hooray!

 

but nevertheless, such a thing shouldn't simply be accepted as normal. .

It's not.

 

 If you're having sex with a creature that cannot grant consent, it's basically the same as somebody who didn't grant you consent whatsoever. Molestation, rape, whatever you want to call it. It's disgusting.

Here we go, here's the jump from 'has an attraction' to 'rape'. Anyway, ignoring that, sex with animals=rape? is a whole other can of worms that I'm not going to open here. Still, I get the point that was made here, rape and molestation is bad. 

 

Considering pacifying rapists and child molesters, akin to people who practice beastiality, is one of the many forms of trying to eliminate natural selection. These traits must be eradicated completely from the human experience, without question. There are no ifs, ands, or buts, when you're dealing with creeps who need to be admitted to mental institutions until they die and have their unnecessary, disgusting traits eliminated from the human gene pool

Well, there's a whole lot I disagree with here. For starters, not killing these kinds of people isn't 'trying to eliminate natural selection', since we'd have to manually 'eradicate' all these people ourselves.

In the thread there's been a whole lot of discussion of why paedophiles aren't these horrible, horrible people you talk about, and it's not even opinion that paedophiles aren't all rapists/child molesters.

Finally, you go on to eugenics, and even though that's yet another can of worms that personally I would say in itself is stupid, applying it to paedophiles based on the flawed reasoning you've stated just seems like a fairly terrible, and ignorant, idea. 

 

Assuming you aren't one of these guys

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I'm sure you understand perfectly why having sex with animals is immoral and I shouldn't have to introduce to you the basics of why sex exists as a bodily function that shouldn't be abused. I suppose sex crimes should be ignored considering society's obsession with intercourse is forced on everyone anyways, but nevertheless, the fact that attraction to children exists as an irregularity is comparable to that of serial killers who hear voices in their heads. The "rights" of pedophiles is a nonexistent issue that does not need to be reviewed unless for some reason, these rights actually exist, which they don't and hopefully never will. As for the brony thing, I kinda hope you don't sympathize with people with a strange attraction to horses, but that was obviously a joke, and you need to lighten up, but other than that, discussing that is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand, so all jokes aside, pedophiles are disgusting, as with modern sexual morals and values in this society. As an asexual, I fail to sympathize with any kind of attraction, especially that of which is completely unnatural, unlike hetero and homosexuality, but you might as well lump yourself in with the likes of Tumblr if you enjoy trying to create a creepy "sexual identity" to separate yourself from the masses. I could honestly care less, but I try to avoid those kind of freaks on a personal note.


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Posted 26 September 2014 - 08:53 AM

 

Pedophiles are never just "attracted", they put in action their attraction by abusing kids or by watching kid porn which is also an abuse.

Let's not lose focus please.

Not at pedophiles act on their attractions. Think for a second now. Being a pedophile doesn't automatically make you a person with no self control.

 

Judging from what I've read last night and this morning, people still seem to have a lot of stereotypical and generalized views on pedophiles. You all think that they're all the same and all want to abuse/molest children. This to me is just ignorant and I'm just going to refrain from arguing on this matter anymore because it's just not worth it. I can't deal with hate induced by ignorance.

 

 

Hiding behind lack of arguments?

I didn't say that they have no self-control. They should work on having one and seek treatment cause being sexually attracted to children is a mental health issue.

Is there any pedophile that at the least doesn't engage in watching kid porn? I doubt it.

Watching kid porn is an abuse itself. 


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Posted 26 September 2014 - 12:09 PM Edited by Sting4S, 26 September 2014 - 02:29 PM.

Nobody is hiding behind lack of arguments. I think you're a presumptuous and ignoramus debater. Your points are purely based off of uneducated opinions and views that, to me, lack any actual thought on the matter at hand. Why is it so hard for you to accept the fact that not every pedophile can help being attracted to children, that some hate themselves because of it and genuinely don't want to be pedophiles?

Newsflash: not every pedophile watches child porn. "Is there any pedophile that at the least doesn't engage in watching kid porn? I doubt it." That bold statement is ridiculous. It makes me want to punch you in the face. It's like saying that every gay man is going to engage in watching gay porn. It simply isn't true. It's drivel and you're fool for saying it.

People like you need to wake up and stop generalizing. Not every pedophile is an uncontrollable, sex crazy deviant who wants to rape children. Not every pedophile watches child porn. Most pedophiles hate who they are and want nothing to do with their attractions.

Why is that so hard for you to understand? Are you just immature?

As for Myron, I just think he's attention seeking. If not, then he is too clueless to even participate in this discussion and should be banned from it.

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 02:54 PM

Nobody is hiding behind lack of arguments. I think you're a presumptuous and ignoramus debater. Your points are purely based off of uneducated opinions and views that, to me, lack any actual thought on the matter at hand. Why is it so hard for you to accept the fact that not every pedophile can help being attracted to children, that some hate themselves because of it and genuinely don't want to be pedophiles?

Newsflash: not every pedophile watches child porn. "Is there any pedophile that at the least doesn't engage in watching kid porn? I doubt it." That bold statement is ridiculous. It makes me want to punch you in the face. It's like saying that every gay man is going to engage in watching gay porn. It simply isn't true. It's drivel and you're fool for saying it.

People like you need to wake up and stop generalizing. Not every pedophile is an uncontrollable, sex crazy deviant who wants to rape children. Not every pedophile watches child porn. Most pedophiles hate who they are and want nothing to do with their attractions.

Why is that so hard for you to understand? Are you just immature?

As for Myron, I just think he's attention seeking. If not, then he is too clueless to even participate in this discussion and should be banned from it.


I don't doubt that your sympathy towards pedophiles is unwarranted, but at the same time, I don't see why you should seek sympathy for them in the first place. If a man acts upon his grotesque desires and a child is the victim of this act, then obviously there was something that should have been done about him in the first place which would have spared a child the horror of the situation. I do, however, doubt that one who lacks self-control should be spared simply because he lacks it. If somebody murdered somebody and they were mentally ill, one doesn't simply say, "well they were sick in the head, so I guess we'll let it slide." A murder is a murder. If he's having murderous thoughts, well, who gives a sh*t, there are treatments for that, and it's not like murder is unnatural either, but to defend something that doesn't need to be defended is ridiculous. Who are these people that want to stand out for their nasty attractions? More importantly as long as they aren't engaging in child abuse, who cares? Seek medical help if you must. I personally don't give a sh*t. Everyone wants their own little pride parade nowadays, but you don't think about what that does to try to oust yourself as some kind of strange minority instead of keeping your weird habits to yourself. More so, this is a debate, keep your head clear Pogo the Clown, your personal discontent towards other members is irrelevant to the discussion.

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 03:26 PM Edited by Sting4S, 26 September 2014 - 03:26 PM.

Did you even skim over my post? Because what you said is totally off-topic in response to my post. I do not have any sympathy for those who act on their attractions to children. I do feel for those who have attractions to children yet don't want anything to do with it.

Please read my post again, I could not have made it any more clear than it already was. That paragraph of drivel you responded to me with made no sense in response to what I was saying.

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 04:08 PM Edited by HydraulicWaRiOr, 26 September 2014 - 04:09 PM.

Did you even skim over my post? Because what you said is totally off-topic in response to my post. I do not have any sympathy for those who act on their attractions to children. I do feel for those who have attractions to children yet don't want anything to do with it.

Please read my post again, I could not have made it any more clear than it already was. That paragraph of drivel you responded to me with made no sense in response to what I was saying.

If you have context issues I suggest you carefully go over what I said again, I sincerely apologize if you have dyslexia issues.

If someone acts upon their pedophilia, then that is an issue that needs to be taken care of, but if someone doesn't, then who gives a sh*t. The concerns of those who have such strange desires but do not seek help are nobody's buisness but their own. I do not sympathize with pedophiles whatsoever, intentional or unintentional, but unintentional pedophiles are nobody's concern unless they seek help, so they can stay in the closet where they belong.

Sexuality is a touchy issue. But like I said, you should keep those kinds of things to yourself unless you think you need serious medical help.

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Posted 26 September 2014 - 04:09 PM

They should work on having one and seek treatment cause being sexually attracted to children is a mental health issue.

 

 

Sting4S already addressed my problems with your post, but I just want to address this point. Yes, being sexually attracted to children is abnormal. However, by itself it isn't really a mental health issue. It's when people start getting negatively affected by it that it becomes an issue - anything from sexual acts to anxiety formed from it. If it's not negatively affecting anyone, it can hardly be called an issue, and otherwise has no reason to be treated. 

Though amongst paedophiles, the social stigma means anxiety is common. Meaning said paedophiles would then seek treatment because it's causing them distress, not because it's an issue by itself, if you get what I mean. 

 

Also, I didn't bother replying to Hydraulic because like Sting4S said, their posts are off-topic blabberings, and their reply barely related to my post. 





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