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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:38 PM

http://www.traveland...y-gay-tourists/

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Thinking of taking a vacation to Europe this summer? If a trip to iconic city of Moscow or the edgier St. Petersburg is on your bucket list, an anti-gay law recently passed in Russia may have you thinking again. It is now outlawed to be ‘out and proud.’
In a throwback to the country’s authoritarian ruling, Russian president Vladimir Putin has signed a controversial law that punishes people for “homosexual propaganda.” The law fines people—including tourists—up to 200,000 rubles ($6,240 CDN) for “propaganda of non-traditional sexual relations.” For Canadians—where same-sex marriage is legal—it is unfathomable that Russia’s laws permit the government to arrest and detain gay, or pro-gay, foreigners for up to 14 days before they would then be expelled from the country.
So what is considered pro-gay? Anything from gay-affirmative speech to hand-holding; even displaying a rainbow flag alongside a maple leaf on your backpack is illegal. Recently in southern Russia, there were complaints that Elton John’s stage outfits fell under “gay propaganda.”
While LGBT are being told they are unwelcome in Russia, with such vague definitions, one wonders if anyone who even looks like they might be gay could alsobe fined or deported from the country.
According to Voice of Russia, any display of affection between same-sex couples could cause a “distorted understanding” that gay relations and heterosexual relations are socially equivalent, and risk spreading Western liberalism. Putin claims the law doesn’t discriminate against LGBT people, but rather—in an argument riddled with faulty logic—is there to “protect children from pedophilia.”

So backwards..

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:43 PM

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Putin claims the law doesn’t discriminate against LGBT people, but rather—in an argument riddled with faulty logic—is there to “protect children from pedophilia.”


Wtf how does that.... wtf....

What kind of argument is that? I'm dumbfounded.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:46 PM

and this country was given the world cup over England. Despicable

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:56 PM

Well, that''s gay. tounge.gif

Seriously that sucks.

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Posted 11 July 2013 - 11:57 PM

Meh, that's nothing. In Uganda you 'll get a lifelong sentence or even death sentence for being gay. People are brainwashed over there.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:06 AM

It's truly depressing how many bigots run countries in this day & age.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:09 AM

Damn, now i wanna go to Russia even more.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:13 AM

Why is the progression of the world stopping? This makes me sad for humanity. I thought the medieval times ended long ago apparently I was wrong. sad.gif

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:17 AM

And yet another backwards step is taken.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:24 AM Edited by Typhus, 12 July 2013 - 12:27 AM.

I look forward to s string of insulting posts in broken English claiming that we 'don't understand' and blaming everything on America.
Bonus points if they mention how people have 'marched against Homosexuality' in Russia, thus proving that all Russians support this kind of nonsense.
For a nation of such beauty, refinement and education, I find it sad to see what it has been reduced to and how horribly their flirtation with Democracy has failed.
I am loathe to call Mr. Putin a tyrant, because that would be incorrect, but he behaves in a manner that any despot would instantly recognise - right down to deflecting criticisms of himself onto the American boogeyman.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:43 AM Edited by Chris Fromage, 12 July 2013 - 01:09 AM.

nvm...

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 12:57 AM

Gay people need a getaway from all this bigotry, they should just make their own colony on their own secluded island.

After a generation or three I'm sure no one would be complaining.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:03 AM

this is good ,and I agree with it .If gay people just acted like normal people instead of playing it up so much then maybe people wouldn't have so much of a problem with it .If you're a man ,act like a man .If you're a women act like a women .

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:08 AM

QUOTE (wannaslide @ Friday, Jul 12 2013, 03:03)
If gay people just acted like normal people instead

So you're saying that homosexuals aren't normal people? Then what are they? Cows?

Society should just treat homosexuals as normal people, instead as some special group of retards. But that's too much asked I guess..

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:13 AM Edited by Rawra, 12 July 2013 - 01:17 AM.

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If gay people just acted like normal people

So what do normal people act like? And who gets to be considered 'normal'? Only heterosexuals, or is that entirely up to you?

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If you're a man ,act like a man .If you're a women act like a women.

What does a man act like? Are the homosexual males not men? Same with women.


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but they do act like retards

So you have observed every homosexual in the world I take it, or is this just another one of your generalizations?

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for the fact it's not natural

Homosexuality is man-made?

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:13 AM

I don't mean to sound like a dick or anything but they do act like retards ,the way they talk the way they act ect ,its not normal , but hey what is normal I guess lol . anyways i'm not a fan of how they are .And I honestly don't think it should be publicly excepted ,for the fact it's not natural .

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:15 AM

QUOTE (ThaBoY @ Thursday, Jul 11 2013, 17:08)
QUOTE (wannaslide @ Friday, Jul 12 2013, 03:03)
If gay people just acted like normal people instead

So you're saying that homosexuals aren't normal people? Then what are they? Cows?

Society should just treat homosexuals as normal people, instead as some special group of retards. But that's too much asked I guess..

What kind of normal person wants a penis to be shoved up where your excrement comes out..?

Not only is homosexuality unhealthy, counterintuitive to survival and causes diseases, but then we might as well begin treating cannibals and necrophiliacs as normal people as well. I mean, why not, they're born that way unless you want to discriminate them as well?

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:17 AM Edited by lzw3, 12 July 2013 - 01:20 AM.

QUOTE (wannaslide @ Friday, Jul 12 2013, 11:03)
this is good ,and I agree with it .If gay people just acted like normal people instead of playing it up so much then maybe people wouldn't have so much of a problem with it .If you're a man ,act like a man .If you're a women act like a women .

This makes no f*cking sense. What you're saying is you essentially would like the human population to turn into a bunch of spineless humanoids who are all exactly the same. What do you mean if gay people act like normal people? We ARE normal, blind old man! I am actually amazed at the amount of homophobic Australians, well brace yourself because Rudd's for it. If you like this Russian law then please kindly f*ck off and move there where you will hopefully die in a LiveLeak dashcam video. icon14.gif

This law is ridiculous, we are just getting to the point where gay people can finally come out and be open about themselves in modern society, what would make Russia want to undo all of that? There isn't really a logical reason behind it, in my eyes this is really a human rights issue, there's no way that an entire country should be allowed to censor what people are open and not open about whatsoever.

I generally like Russia as a country and have wanted to go there, but I guess I won't be now because to be honest I'd prefer to not be imprisoned for being exactly the person that I am.

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What kind of normal person wants a penis to be shoved up where your excrement comes out..?


It does not matter what you think whatsoever. The fact of the matter is that people are having their rights taken away from them, it does not matter what the topic at hand is, I would be just as cross if they were charging people for being openly TALL. This is something that people CAN NOT change about themselves, and Russia are violating that.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:20 AM

QUOTE (lzw3 @ Friday, Jul 12 2013, 01:17)
QUOTE (wannaslide @ Friday, Jul 12 2013, 11:03)
this is good ,and I agree with it .If gay people just acted like normal people instead of playing it up so much then maybe people wouldn't have so much of a problem with it .If you're a man ,act like a man .If you're a women act like a women .

This makes no f*cking sense. What you're saying is you essentially would like the human population to turn into a bunch of spineless humanoids who are all exactly the same. What do you mean if gay people act like normal people? We ARE normal, blind old man! I am actually amazed at the amount of homophobic Australians, well brace yourself because Rudd's for it. If you like this Russian law then please kindly f*ck off and move there where you will hopefully die in a LiveLeak dashcam video. icon14.gif

This law is ridiculous, we are just getting to the point where gay people can finally come out and be open about themselves in modern society, what would make Russia want to undo all of that? There isn't really a logical reason behind it, in my eyes this is really a human rights issue, there's no way that an entire country should be allowed to censor what people are open and not open about whatsoever.

I generally like Russia as a country and have wanted to go there, but I guess I won't be now because to be honest I'd prefer to not be imprisoned for being exactly the person that I am.

I don't think i'm old (26 old ? ) lol.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:20 AM

I agree with it and I now have a reason to go to Russia.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:20 AM

QUOTE (wannaslide @ Friday, Jul 12 2013, 02:03)
this is good ,and I agree with it .If gay people just acted like normal people instead of playing it up so much then maybe people wouldn't have so much of a problem with it .If you're a man ,act like a man .If you're a women act like a women .

Do you even know what ''openly gay'' means?
you seem to think it is just restricted to being what is called ''camp'' e.g. being like jack McFarland from the TV sitcom will and grace, if you don't know what either of those 2 things are, youtube is your friend, and if you can'r be arsed I jsut mean being very flamboyant, like a sterotypical gay prancing and mincing which i have ONLY EVER SEEN when someone is taking the piss (making a joke) I have never seen a gay guy actually do those things because they just are that flamboyant, never ever ever.

But if you think that being like that is what openly gay means, or if you think that being flamboyant is the only thing that will get you arrested in that armpit of a country (no offense to Russians but this bigotry makes your country a cultural armpit in my eyes, if you are against it then good on ya) then you, wannaslide, might just be the dumbest member I have seen here, who isn't banned, yet. Seriously this is youtube comment level stupidity.

They say that 2 men holding hands, or sporting a rainbow flag is enough to get you arrested, in what f*cking way is that not "normal."

I don't want to think you are bigoted, from what i can see your idiocy can be explained by simple ignorance, or amybe a misunderstanding, does not stop you being an idiot, but if that is all it is then you are not beyond help like some people.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:20 AM

QUOTE (wannaslide @ Friday, Jul 12 2013, 11:20)
QUOTE (lzw3 @ Friday, Jul 12 2013, 01:17)
QUOTE (wannaslide @ Friday, Jul 12 2013, 11:03)
this is good ,and I agree with it .If gay people just acted like normal people instead of playing it up so much then maybe people wouldn't have so much of a problem with it .If you're a man ,act like a man .If you're a women act like a women .

This makes no f*cking sense. What you're saying is you essentially would like the human population to turn into a bunch of spineless humanoids who are all exactly the same. What do you mean if gay people act like normal people? We ARE normal, blind old man! I am actually amazed at the amount of homophobic Australians, well brace yourself because Rudd's for it. If you like this Russian law then please kindly f*ck off and move there where you will hopefully die in a LiveLeak dashcam video. icon14.gif

This law is ridiculous, we are just getting to the point where gay people can finally come out and be open about themselves in modern society, what would make Russia want to undo all of that? There isn't really a logical reason behind it, in my eyes this is really a human rights issue, there's no way that an entire country should be allowed to censor what people are open and not open about whatsoever.

I generally like Russia as a country and have wanted to go there, but I guess I won't be now because to be honest I'd prefer to not be imprisoned for being exactly the person that I am.

I don't think i'm old (26 old ? ) lol.

Very mature response. icon14.gif

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:21 AM

QUOTE (wannaslide @ Friday, Jul 12 2013, 01:13)
I don't mean to sound like a dick or anything

Too late. We don't act, everything we do comes naturally to us. There's no acting,only real life. Hmppff....

Anyway, I don't expect anything good from Russian politicians. They are bigoted, close minded people. Too bad...cause I'm in love with Russian culture.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:22 AM

QUOTE (wannaslide @ Thursday, Jul 11 2013, 21:13)
I don't mean to sound like a dick or anything but they do act like retards ,the way they talk the way they act ect ,its not normal , but hey what is normal I guess lol . anyways i'm not a fan of how they are .And I honestly don't think it should be publicly excepted ,for the fact it's not natural .

I'm willing to bet there are a sh*t ton of gay people that you can't identify on sight. An over zealous gay couple is no different than an over zealous straight couple.

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Not only is homosexuality unhealthy, counterintuitive to survival and causes diseases, but then we might as well begin treating cannibals and necrophiliacs as normal people as well. I mean, why not, they're born that way unless you want to discriminate them as well?

Do you plan on having children and growing them into fine bigots and misinformed freaks?

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:32 AM

@GrandMaster Smith I find it funny that people always use the 'penis-up-in-your-ass' excuse. I never hear anyone complaining about lesbians, but when it comes to gays people are always "It isn't natural! That isn't right!". It's his choice to want a penis up in his ass, and her choice to want a finger or tongue in her vagina. Who are you to judge them and tell what's right and what's wrong?

QUOTE (GrandMaster Smith @ Friday, Jul 12 2013, 03:15)
Not only is homosexuality unhealthy, counterintuitive to survival and causes diseases?


Haha wow, you sound like a priest from the 80's right now. Sure, (male) homosexuals have a bigger chance of getting AIDS than hetrosexuals, but that's why people use protection, don't they?

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:36 AM Edited by Gtaghost22, 12 July 2013 - 01:38 AM.

QUOTE (GrandMaster Smith @ Friday, Jul 12 2013, 01:15)
might as well begin treating cannibals and necrophiliacs as normal people as well.

Comparing normal people with just a different sexual orientation than yours to cannibals and necrophiliacs. Good job.



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:37 AM

QUOTE (ThaBoY @ Thursday, Jul 11 2013, 17:32)
@GrandMaster Smith I find it funny that people always use the 'penis-up-in-your-ass' excuse. I never hear anyone complaining about lesbians, but when it comes to gays people are always "It isn't natural! That isn't right!". It's his choice to want a penis up in his ass, and her choice to want a finger or tongue in her vagina. Who are you to judge them and tell what's right and what's wrong?

QUOTE (GrandMaster Smith @ Friday, Jul 12 2013, 03:15)
Not only is homosexuality unhealthy, counterintuitive to survival and causes diseases?


Haha wow, you sound like a priest from the 80's right now. Sure, (male) homosexuals have a bigger chance of getting AIDS than hetrosexuals, but that's why people use protection, don't they?

Well sh*t, if you've ever had a hemorrhoid I'm sure you could only imagine what kind of damage and pain something such as anal penetration could cause.

Sticking a reproductive organ up an excrement shoot is absolutely counterintuitive to reproduction. It's about as normal as a human having sex with a corpse.. I mean necrophiliacs were born that way as well, don't tell me you're gonna discriminate against them as well?




QUOTE (Gtaghost22)
Comparing normal people with just a different sexual orientation than yours to cannibals and necrophiliacs. Good job.


Can you tell me the difference between a human born with a sexual desire towards the same sex and a human born with a sexual desire towards corpse's?

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:38 AM

QUOTE (wannaslide @ Thursday, Jul 11 2013, 21:13)
I don't mean to sound like a dick or anything but they do act like retards ,the way they talk the way they act ect ,its not normal , but hey what is normal I guess lol . anyways i'm not a fan of how they are .And I honestly don't think it should be publicly excepted ,for the fact it's not natural .

Haha you're a complete melt. You really think all gay people talk - how you say it - retarded? First of all, you're comparing people who are actually retarded to people who are homosexuals. Not only does it prove you're an idiot for doing so, but it tells me that you're generalizing people in the wrong sense. Second of all, are you even aware of who gay people really are? Hold up, what the f*ck, why did I even ask that? I bet you seem to think gay people are just guys who love wearing pink tank tops and go shopping at forever 21. Oh, and they "talk retarded."

Shut the f*ck up and leave this topic for good, ignoramus. No one wants to read your moronic responses and potentially garner a share of your idiocy and sh*tty grammar skills from it.

Get, out.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:40 AM

QUOTE (GrandMaster Smith @ Friday, Jul 12 2013, 11:37)
Sticking a reproductive organ up an excrement shoot is absolutely counterintuitive to reproduction.

Reproduction is not the goal dimwit! Don't tell me for all these f*cking years you've been thinking that gay people have been doing anal sex in the hopes of having a child.

Necrophilia affects people not directly related to the situation, homosexuality does not. The two are not comparable in any way, shape or form.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:41 AM

QUOTE (GrandMaster Smith @ Friday, Jul 12 2013, 01:37)
QUOTE (ThaBoY @ Thursday, Jul 11 2013, 17:32)
@GrandMaster Smith I find it funny that people always use the 'penis-up-in-your-ass' excuse. I never hear anyone complaining about lesbians, but when it comes to gays people are always "It isn't natural! That isn't right!". It's his choice to want a penis up in his ass, and her choice to want a finger or tongue in her vagina. Who are you to judge them and tell what's right and what's wrong?

QUOTE (GrandMaster Smith @ Friday, Jul 12 2013, 03:15)
Not only is homosexuality unhealthy, counterintuitive to survival and causes diseases?


Haha wow, you sound like a priest from the 80's right now. Sure, (male) homosexuals have a bigger chance of getting AIDS than hetrosexuals, but that's why people use protection, don't they?

Well sh*t, if you've ever had a hemorrhoid I'm sure you could only imagine what kind of damage and pain something such as anal penetration could cause.

Sticking a reproductive organ up an excrement shoot is absolutely counterintuitive to reproduction. It's about as normal as a human having sex with a corpse.. I mean necrophiliacs were born that way as well, don't tell me you're gonna discriminate against them as well?

So it's ok to discriminate against gay people because some people also like to f*ck corpses.

You keep talking about how you can't understand how someone could like having a reproductive organ shoved up their "excrement shoot", but you seem quite comfortable having your own head up your ass.




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