|QUOTE (Killerdude8 @ Tuesday, Jul 9 2013, 07:11)|
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| So I'm not allowed to criticize peoples opinions and question the legitimacy for holding said opinions? |
Except you haven't done that. I've explained why it was the cop's fault (he wasn't charged with anything so shouldn't have been handcuffed, they could have let him go to calm down the dog anyway, the only reason the dog lunged at the cop was because he barged in trying to grab his leash) and you've offered no comment- all you've done is occasionally butt in with your fingers in your ears going "la la la la I can't hear you you're just biased against cops la la la la"
But please, explain why he was handcuffed without being charged with a crime. Explain why they couldn't have let him calm down his dog. Explain why the cop that shot the dog felt the need to run in between the dog and his owner and try to grab the leash. Explain why the cop couldn't take a little nip and had to shoot the dog. We've all been bitten by dogs, and at no point does killing the dog cross our minds.
What he did was stupid, and like it or not, a perfect example of the police's incompetence, power drunkenness, disregard for other people, gang mentality and immunity to consequence. That's why people are outraged, not because they have some arbitrary hatred of police and are always waiting for an opportunity to rag on them.
I don't know about the states, but I can handcuff anybody I see fit. They don't need to be charged, arrested or even officially detained for the cuffs to be applied.
One such example, call to 4 youths reported with a knife, all 4 of them were placed in cuffs (but not arrested) whilst we searched them for offensive weapons - one knife recovered but couldn't be used on us...
You had a reason to cuff and detain them, They were reported with a weapon, The guy in the video was just playing music and recording the Police. They had no right cuffing him.
No, he just said he doesn't need a reason. The guy in the video was playing loud music, at an area where a police operation was obviously in progress, and was told a number of times by the police to lower the volume down or get away from the area, couldn't quite hear it. He didn't comply, after repeated warnings, cops started walking towards him, the guy knew what was going to happen, and they handcuffed him.
Look it at the cops perspective: they are in the middle of a police operation. Some unknown guy starts walking around, with loud music, with a menacing dog. Cops tell him to stay away, because they don't know what the guy is up to, what is his relation to whoever they are after. Guy doesn't comply. After repeated warnings, he starts to comply only after being handcuffed. Again, cops don't have a clue who this guy is or why is he so set on the scene. The dog threatens them, sh*t escalates, dog gets shot.
In hindsight, it's easy to say "Oh the cops shouldn't have done that! They should have let him go calm his dog! They should have never handcuffed him!" but hindsight is 20 20, and we don't know all the facts of whatever happened. I don't think cops are specially trained in how to deal with dogs or any other animals, and I know that if I had a large dog lunging at me, like a rottweiler, knowing of it's capability for causing harm, my first reaction would be to use anything I have at reach to knock out/kill/incapacitate the dog. For the cop, it happened to be the gun he had at his reach. We've all been bitten by dogs, and for some of us killing the dog has crossed our minds, specially when the dog maimed someone dear to us.