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[weidncol]

I do realize that a lot of people have been making texture overhauls for Liberty City in GTA IV, but I personally just want a whole new map that is as realistic as possible to NYC. If this were to be created, it will take a lot of time and effort since its a whole new map with all new buildings and textures. My idea would to make Manhattan way more dense and have more skyscrapers, but to put them in the correct place. Manhattan would also feature the new World Trade Center. There will be a new island called Staten Island. (Something Liberty City is missing) Make Jersey bigger and Queens bigger. Since I am not to experienced with modelling, I would need a team of people to help make this, including scripters, modelers, etc.

This guy on the forums, Six Paths of Pain was going to carry this out, but while making it his computer got a virus and he lost all the files That's why you should backup!

Anyway, to get an idea of what I want, here was his topic from a few years ago:
http://www.gtaforums...howtopic=431747

EDIT:
Due to the limitations of GTA IV map boundary, I currently only plan to recreate Manhattan. I know this is a let down for those that wanted the whole map to be re-done, but it just isn't possible. Once GTA V comes out, perhaps I'll make NYC for that so we have more room to make a map

[RoadRunner71]

That would be the most awesome sh*t ever made for GTA. For making a reallistic size map I think it could just been added Manhattan, placed in diagonal so there would be more space. Having the WTC would be awesome, and for complementing it in my opinion the city should have 1980s or 1970s gritty look; lot of abandoned buildings or in ruins even in areas like the Lower East Side, abandoned cars (hell, I've seen pictures of abandoned cars next to I think the Manhattan Bridge), the old Battery Park and abandoned West Side Highway, the X Movies Cinemas in Times Squares with the neon lights... That city had to be awesome (and dangerous) back then

[weidncol]

Oh sorry I didn't clarify, but it would be set in this era with the NEW World Trade Center. Did you check out the topic I posted a link to yet?

[Murad96]

Do you actually think you're gonna get anyone five years after GTA 4?

[weidncol]

QUOTE (Murad96 @ Saturday, Jun 29 2013, 22:40)

Do you actually think you're gonna get anyone five years after GTA 4?

I don't know, but what I do know is that people still work on projects for San Andreas so... Also, GTA IV is the current game right now so people obviously still mod it.

[weidncol]

I really wish SPoP would reply to my message so we can start on this...

[LibertyKing]

Are you doing this on Sketchup or another 3D modeler?
I ask this because Six Paths of Pain made it in Sketchup and I have some little experience in Sketchup, I once made a decent model of Manhattan.
If you want pics, ask me, I always dreamed of working on a NYC map mod for GTA.

BTW: What a coincidence: You were born 2 months before me, you joined the forum 1 day before me and, strangely, yesterday I was reading SPOP New York Topic...

[weidncol]

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Sunday, Jun 30 2013, 22:05)

Are you doing this on Sketchup or another 3D modeler? I ask this because Six Paths of Pain made it in Sketchup and I have some little experience in Sketchup, I once made a decent model of Manhattan. If you want pics, ask me, I always dreamed of working on a NYC map mod for GTA. BTW: What a coincidence: You were born 2 months before me, you joined the forum 1 day before me and, strangely, yesterday I was reading SPOP New York Topic...

Actually I really could use a good modeler since I am not to experienced myself. Show me some of the pics and you could possibly be on my team I am a little worried about using Sketchup for GTA IV because of the fact it adds a lot of polys and can cause it to lag like a f*ck

I really want SPoP to help out! Anyway you can contact him?

What version of sketchup should I get?

[LibertyKing]

QUOTE (weidncol @ Sunday, Jun 30 2013, 20:43)

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Sunday, Jun 30 2013, 22:05) Are you doing this on Sketchup or another 3D modeler? I ask this because Six Paths of Pain made it in Sketchup and I have some little experience in Sketchup, I once made a decent model of Manhattan. If you want pics, ask me, I always dreamed of working on a NYC map mod for GTA. BTW: What a coincidence: You were born 2 months before me, you joined the forum 1 day before me and, strangely, yesterday I was reading SPOP New York Topic... Actually I really could use a good modeler since I am not to experienced myself. Show me some of the pics and you could possibly be on my team I am a little worried about using Sketchup for GTA IV because of the fact it adds a lot of polys and can cause it to lag like a f*ck I really want SPoP to help out! Anyway you can contact him?

I couldn't contact him, I don't know him. If you're worried about poly, then I could only do the base of the buildings.
I will show you my New York model anyway:









I didn't make the textures and the model was only made for overhead views.
I downloaded the trees, the Statue of Liberty, the Chrysler Building, the Empire State Building and the Madison Square Garden.

[weidncol]

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 01:21)

QUOTE (weidncol @ Sunday, Jun 30 2013, 20:43) QUOTE (Libertyking @ Sunday, Jun 30 2013, 22:05) Are you doing this on Sketchup or another 3D modeler? I ask this because Six Paths of Pain made it in Sketchup and I have some little experience in Sketchup, I once made a decent model of Manhattan. If you want pics, ask me, I always dreamed of working on a NYC map mod for GTA. BTW: What a coincidence: You were born 2 months before me, you joined the forum 1 day before me and, strangely, yesterday I was reading SPOP New York Topic... Actually I really could use a good modeler since I am not to experienced myself. Show me some of the pics and you could possibly be on my team I am a little worried about using Sketchup for GTA IV because of the fact it adds a lot of polys and can cause it to lag like a f*ck I really want SPoP to help out! Anyway you can contact him? I couldn't contact him, I don't know him. If you're worried about poly, then I could only do the base of the buildings. I will show you my New York model anyway: I didn't make the textures and the model was only made for overhead views. I downloaded the trees, the Chrysler Building, the Empire State Building and the Madison Square Garden.

Looks decent. I plan on using Sketchup for the map only and then 3ds max for everything else. BTW what version of sketchup should i get?

[LibertyKing]

Sketchup Pro cost money, but you can extract models in other 3D formats and there is more functions.
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[weidncol]

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 01:24)

Sketchup Pro cost money, but you can extract models in other 3D formats and there is more functions.

Money is no object to me

EDIT:
I think it's time to move this topic to the mod showroom

[LibertyKing]

QUOTE (weidncol @ Sunday, Jun 30 2013, 21:25)

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 01:24) Sketchup Pro cost money, but you can extract models in other 3D formats and there is more functions. Money is no object to me EDIT: I think it's time to move this topic to the mod showroom

Mod Showroom is for near finished mods I think.

[weidncol]

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 01:27)

QUOTE (weidncol @ Sunday, Jun 30 2013, 21:25) QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 01:24) Sketchup Pro cost money, but you can extract models in other 3D formats and there is more functions. Money is no object to me EDIT: I think it's time to move this topic to the mod showroom Mod Showroom is for near finished mods I think.

hmmm true. I think as long as you post some progress pics you are fine, but I need to wait a little bit.

[LibertyKing]

QUOTE (weidncol @ Sunday, Jun 30 2013, 21:28)

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 01:27) QUOTE (weidncol @ Sunday, Jun 30 2013, 21:25) QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 01:24) Sketchup Pro cost money, but you can extract models in other 3D formats and there is more functions. Money is no object to me EDIT: I think it's time to move this topic to the mod showroom Mod Showroom is for near finished mods I think. hmmm true. I think as long as you post some progress pics you are fine, but I need to wait a little bit.

I could help you making the base of the buildings, without textures... anyway, can you do textures?

[weidncol]

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 01:29)

QUOTE (weidncol @ Sunday, Jun 30 2013, 21:28) QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 01:27) QUOTE (weidncol @ Sunday, Jun 30 2013, 21:25) QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 01:24) Sketchup Pro cost money, but you can extract models in other 3D formats and there is more functions. Money is no object to me EDIT: I think it's time to move this topic to the mod showroom Mod Showroom is for near finished mods I think. hmmm true. I think as long as you post some progress pics you are fine, but I need to wait a little bit. I could help you making the base of the buildings, without textures... anyway, can you do textures?

I actually have someone who can do that. His name is RoadRunner71

[weidncol]

Getting Sketchup Pro now

[LibertyKing]

QUOTE (weidncol @ Sunday, Jun 30 2013, 21:30)

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 01:29) QUOTE (weidncol @ Sunday, Jun 30 2013, 21:28) QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 01:27) QUOTE (weidncol @ Sunday, Jun 30 2013, 21:25) QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 01:24) Sketchup Pro cost money, but you can extract models in other 3D formats and there is more functions. Money is no object to me EDIT: I think it's time to move this topic to the mod showroom Mod Showroom is for near finished mods I think. hmmm true. I think as long as you post some progress pics you are fine, but I need to wait a little bit. I could help you making the base of the buildings, without textures... anyway, can you do textures? I actually have someone who can do that. His name is RoadRunner71

Well you're ready I think! Anyway, I'll go to bed now, it's 9:30 here, so goodbye. I'll come back tomorrow.
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Hello, I'm back. I thought I could make a better quality model to show you what I can do.
So I decided to make a One WTC Sketchup model. If it was to scale, and had an antenna, this would be the kind of model I would send you.

[weidncol]

Looks good! How would you add the individual glass panels too it and the glass on the lobby? Sorry I'm not good at sketchup

I think it's best we use 3ds Max 2012 if we want high quality models...

[LibertyKing]

QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:21)

Looks good! How would you add the individual glass panels too it and the glass on the lobby? Sorry I'm not good at sketchup

That would not be the good way to do it in Sketchup: Way too much polys. You should make a high quality glass texture, similar to how Rockstar did it in GTA IV.
BTW, will you keep the original IV models for your mod? Because they're not exactly to scale IE: the ESB is over-scaled.

QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:21)

I think it's best we use 3ds Max 2012 if we want high quality models...

Aw.. OK. Wanted to work on this one. I don't have any idea how 3DS max work...

[weidncol]

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 19:28)

QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:21) Looks good! How would you add the individual glass panels too it and the glass on the lobby? Sorry I'm not good at sketchup That would not be the good way to do it in Sketchup: Way too much polys. You should make a high quality glass texture, similar to how Rockstar did it in GTA IV. BTW, will you keep the original IV models for your mod? Because they're not exactly to scale IE: the ESB is over-scaled. QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:21) I think it's best we use 3ds Max 2012 if we want high quality models... Aw.. OK. Wanted to work on this one. I don't have any idea how 3DS max work...

We can use Sketchup as long as we can make the models look good ingame. I want to redo all the landmark buildings to make them as realistic as possible.

[LibertyKing]

QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:38)

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 19:28) QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:21) Looks good! How would you add the individual glass panels too it and the glass on the lobby? Sorry I'm not good at sketchup That would not be the good way to do it in Sketchup: Way too much polys. You should make a high quality glass texture, similar to how Rockstar did it in GTA IV. BTW, will you keep the original IV models for your mod? Because they're not exactly to scale IE: the ESB is over-scaled. QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:21) I think it's best we use 3ds Max 2012 if we want high quality models... Aw.. OK. Wanted to work on this one. I don't have any idea how 3DS max work... We can use Sketchup as long as we can make the models look good ingame. I want to redo all the landmark buildings to make them as realistic as possible.

Then, we need Six Paths of Pain...

[weidncol]

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 19:39)

QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:38) QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 19:28) QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:21) Looks good! How would you add the individual glass panels too it and the glass on the lobby? Sorry I'm not good at sketchup That would not be the good way to do it in Sketchup: Way too much polys. You should make a high quality glass texture, similar to how Rockstar did it in GTA IV. BTW, will you keep the original IV models for your mod? Because they're not exactly to scale IE: the ESB is over-scaled. QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:21) I think it's best we use 3ds Max 2012 if we want high quality models... Aw.. OK. Wanted to work on this one. I don't have any idea how 3DS max work... We can use Sketchup as long as we can make the models look good ingame. I want to redo all the landmark buildings to make them as realistic as possible. Then, we need Six Paths of Pain...

ya... I messaged him like 2 times and no reply still

I cant believe we don't have any negative feedback yet!

[LibertyKing]

QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:41)

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 19:39) QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:38) QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 19:28) QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:21) Looks good! How would you add the individual glass panels too it and the glass on the lobby? Sorry I'm not good at sketchup That would not be the good way to do it in Sketchup: Way too much polys. You should make a high quality glass texture, similar to how Rockstar did it in GTA IV. BTW, will you keep the original IV models for your mod? Because they're not exactly to scale IE: the ESB is over-scaled. QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:21) I think it's best we use 3ds Max 2012 if we want high quality models... Aw.. OK. Wanted to work on this one. I don't have any idea how 3DS max work... We can use Sketchup as long as we can make the models look good ingame. I want to redo all the landmark buildings to make them as realistic as possible. Then, we need Six Paths of Pain... ya... I messaged him like 2 times and no reply still I cant believe we don't have any negative feedback yet!

SPoP was online this morning. Missed him by 3 hours.

Anyway, I think we should make a map of the project before doing it, like a plan.

[weidncol]

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 19:45)

QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:41) QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 19:39) QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:38) QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 19:28) QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:21) Looks good! How would you add the individual glass panels too it and the glass on the lobby? Sorry I'm not good at sketchup That would not be the good way to do it in Sketchup: Way too much polys. You should make a high quality glass texture, similar to how Rockstar did it in GTA IV. BTW, will you keep the original IV models for your mod? Because they're not exactly to scale IE: the ESB is over-scaled. QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:21) I think it's best we use 3ds Max 2012 if we want high quality models... Aw.. OK. Wanted to work on this one. I don't have any idea how 3DS max work... We can use Sketchup as long as we can make the models look good ingame. I want to redo all the landmark buildings to make them as realistic as possible. Then, we need Six Paths of Pain... ya... I messaged him like 2 times and no reply still I cant believe we don't have any negative feedback yet! SPoP was online this morning. Missed him by 3 hours. Anyway, I think we should make a map of the project before doing it, like a plan.

Our plan is on Google Earth

[LibertyKing]

QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:46)

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 19:45) QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:41) QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 19:39) QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:38) QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 19:28) QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:21) Looks good! How would you add the individual glass panels too it and the glass on the lobby? Sorry I'm not good at sketchup That would not be the good way to do it in Sketchup: Way too much polys. You should make a high quality glass texture, similar to how Rockstar did it in GTA IV. BTW, will you keep the original IV models for your mod? Because they're not exactly to scale IE: the ESB is over-scaled. QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:21) I think it's best we use 3ds Max 2012 if we want high quality models... Aw.. OK. Wanted to work on this one. I don't have any idea how 3DS max work... We can use Sketchup as long as we can make the models look good ingame. I want to redo all the landmark buildings to make them as realistic as possible. Then, we need Six Paths of Pain... ya... I messaged him like 2 times and no reply still I cant believe we don't have any negative feedback yet! SPoP was online this morning. Missed him by 3 hours. Anyway, I think we should make a map of the project before doing it, like a plan. Our plan is on Google Earth

You want to make it street accurate? I don't think it would fit in GTA IV's modable area.

[weidncol]

No I mean its not going to be THAT big lol. I'll show you in a sec

EDIT:
This is about right:

[LibertyKing]

I'm gonna stop quoting, it's useless considering we are the only two talking.
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You are increasing my hype...

Edit: I really want to see this mod come to life. I love NY, even if I've never been there... I know the name of most high-rise in Manhattan and the name of all the long bridges... When I've nothing else to do, I read Wikipedia's history of New York. I hope to go there someday... Some people say that I'm obsessed...

[weidncol]

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 19:50)

Edit: I really want to see this mod come to life. I love NY, even if I've never been there... I know the name of most high-rise in Manhattan and the name of all the long bridges... When I've nothing else to do, I read Wikipedia's history of New York. I hope to go there someday... Some people say that I'm obsessed...

I might go there next year for the opening of One World Trade Center

[LibertyKing]

QUOTE (weidncol @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 15:59)

QUOTE (Libertyking @ Monday, Jul 1 2013, 19:50) Edit: I really want to see this mod come to life. I love NY, even if I've never been there... I know the name of most high-rise in Manhattan and the name of all the long bridges... When I've nothing else to do, I read Wikipedia's history of New York. I hope to go there someday... Some people say that I'm obsessed... I might go there next year for the opening of One World Trade Center

Oh, I would love to... But I'm in Canada and I need a passport... stupid terrorists... if it wasn't for 9/11, I wouldn't need one.

I'm close enough to go there by car.

EDIT: Didn't see the image. This is SPoP's Liberty City. It does not fit in the area, though.