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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:19 AM Edited by wwinterj, 28 June 2013 - 01:23 AM.

QUOTE (Official General Friday @ Jun 28 2013, 01:47)
I still find your views quite strange.

When I play GTA I don't even think of kids being among the peds, I don't give it a moment's thought in my head. I find it really strange that some guys actually think about this and desire to have it.


As said before it adds realism. Is it a must? No and as I said before I doubt it'll ever happen but would I be against it if it was? Absolutely not. It really doesn't bother me whatever way it went. It's fair enough if you find my views strange.

QUOTE (brwhizz @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 01:49)
I don't think you understand gta at all.

Translated: You don't agree with my opinion so rather than agree to disagree I'll throw this "insult" out to try and make it sound like I have a better understanding of a video game when in reality it makes me come across as a condescending child ironically. Elaborate your point of refrain from replying to me because as far as I'm concerned our conversation is done based on that comment.

QUOTE (Official General Friday @ Jun 28 2013, 02:01)
You don't need to be Einstein figure out why killing children in video games is in very bad taste.


I find this hypocritical really when folk are fine with killing adults and wild life that also are completely innocent. You are still killing for no reason whatever way you look at it. Save for if attacked.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:24 AM Edited by brwhizz, 28 June 2013 - 01:30 AM.

[QUOTE=brwhizz, Friday, Jun 28 2013, 01:49] I don't think you understand gta at all.[/]
Translated: You don't agree with my opinion so rather than agree to disagree I'll throw this "insult" out to try and make it sound like I have a better understanding of a video game when in reality it makes me come across as a condescending child ironically. Elaborate your point of refrain from replying to me because as far as I'm concerned our conversation is done based on that comment.
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I had a very long argument with you in which I made all my points very clear, you jackass. I'm beginning to think that you're just an inadequate freak. Take your child-killing fantasies and piss off, you weirdo.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:24 AM Edited by Official General, 28 June 2013 - 01:26 AM.

QUOTE (brwhizz @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 00:49)
QUOTE (wwinterj @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 00:42)
QUOTE (Official General @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 01:21)
Bro, you can have whatever opinion you want. My opinion is that your opinion is wrong, that is all it is.

If you personally think it is okay and perfectly fine to kill children in video games, then I seriously there is something wrong with you or you have very a warped sense of enjoyment. If you were able to decide what goes in GTA, the go ahead and enjoy yourself, if killing children in video games makes you happy and you find it fun, then so be it.

BUT....I will state my opinion of people with views like yours as I see fit.

That's completely fine if you believe I'm wrong fella. I've no problem with you voicing a opinion as that makes discussion. I'll be honest I've no issue with people of any age group been killed in a video game because although I do like realism in games I'm well aware it's just a video game.

In life I'm against Animal cruelty more than anything. I could see a kid got shot and not care as much but if it was a Animal it would bother me unless it's for protection purposes as I believe Animals to be more innocent and defenseless. A little weird huh? However in a video game none of this bothers me. My main reason for having different age grouped pedestrians in GTA is to add realism not go on a killing spree killing every kid I see. This is the point I was saying in a previous post. The world simply isn't mature enough yet to allow kids in video games.


QUOTE ( brwhizz @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 01:23)
You can go on and on about children, but that doesn't change my point that children have NO place in this game. Is that clear to you?

We will have to agree to disagree then. smile.gif

I don't think you understand gta at all.

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One day when he has kids for himself, he won't be so quick to request the ability to murder children in a video game. If not, then there is cause for concern. He might be one of those guys you gotta put on community alert. I wouldn't be surprised if the comments of those on here who wanna kill kids in video games are being monitored by online law enforcement.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:32 AM

QUOTE (Official General @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 02:24)
-snip-

Me: Different aged pedestrians will add more realism to the game.

Tweedledum and Tweedledee: OMG!!! you want to kill children! You sick bastard you need locking up! You clearly don't have kids yourself, I know everything about you and you don't know anything about GTA!!!!!

The last few pages in short. monocle.gif

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:32 AM

QUOTE (Official General @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 01:24)
QUOTE (brwhizz @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 00:49)
QUOTE (wwinterj @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 00:42)
QUOTE (Official General @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 01:21)
Bro, you can have whatever opinion you want. My opinion is that your opinion is wrong, that is all it is.

If you personally think it is okay and perfectly fine to kill children in video games, then I seriously there is something wrong with you or you have very a warped sense of enjoyment. If you were able to decide what goes in GTA, the go ahead and enjoy yourself, if killing children in video games makes you happy and you find it fun, then so be it.

BUT....I will state my opinion of people with views like yours as I see fit.

That's completely fine if you believe I'm wrong fella. I've no problem with you voicing a opinion as that makes discussion. I'll be honest I've no issue with people of any age group been killed in a video game because although I do like realism in games I'm well aware it's just a video game. U

In life I'm against Animal cruelty more than anything. I could see a kid got shot and not care as much but if it was a Animal it would bother me unless it's for protection purposes as I believe Animals to be more innocent and defenseless. A little weird huh? However in a video game none of this bothers me. My main reason for having different age grouped pedestrians in GTA is to add realism not go on a killing spree killing every kid I see. This is the point I was saying in a previous post. The world simply isn't mature enough yet to allow kids in video games.


QUOTE ( brwhizz @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 01:23)
You can go on and on about children, but that doesn't change my point that children have NO place in this game. Is that clear to you?

We will have to agree to disagree then. smile.gif

I don't think you understand gta at all.

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One day when he has kids for himself, he won't be so quick to request the ability to murder children in a video game. If not, then there is cause for concern. He might be one of those guys you gotta put on community alert. I wouldn't be surprised if the comments of those on here who wanna kill kids in video games are being monitored by online law enforcement.

After his last comment I've come to the conclusion that the guy's a loon, just like a large proportion of the forum users. It's frightening to think of someone like that reproducing.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:35 AM

QUOTE (wwinterj @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 01:32)
QUOTE (Official General @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 02:24)
-snip-

Me: Different aged pedestrians will add more realism to the game.

Tweedledum and Tweedledee: OMG!!! you want to kill children! You sick bastard you need locking up! You clearly don't have kids yourself, I know everything about you and you don't know anything about GTA!!!!!

The last few pages in short. monocle.gif

When I know I'm in the wrong I give in, as gracefully as I can. Others will just flog a dead horse and make themselves look like idiots.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:35 AM

QUOTE (wwinterj @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 01:32)
QUOTE (Official General @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 02:24)
-snip-

Me: Different aged pedestrians will add more realism to the game.

Tweedledum and Tweedledee: OMG!!! you want to kill children! You sick bastard you need locking up! You clearly don't have kids yourself, I know everything about you and you don't know anything about GTA!!!!!

The last few pages in short. monocle.gif

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Just don't have any children. You might just one day decide to go one step further than video game realism, because that was not 'real' enough for you.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:37 AM

QUOTE (Official General @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 02:35)
Just don't have any children. You might just one day decide to go one step further than video game realism, because that was not 'real' enough for you.

That's cute and also going completely off topic. Trolling and trying to get this topic locked at this point.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:38 AM

QUOTE (Official General @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 01:35)
QUOTE (wwinterj @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 01:32)
QUOTE (Official General @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 02:24)
-snip-

Me: Different aged pedestrians will add more realism to the game.

Tweedledum and Tweedledee: OMG!!! you want to kill children! You sick bastard you need locking up! You clearly don't have kids yourself, I know everything about you and you don't know anything about GTA!!!!!

The last few pages in short. monocle.gif

@ wwinterj

Just don't have any children. You might just one day decide to go one step further than video game realism, because that was not 'real' enough for you.

Yeah, because they're just people after all - people die all the time, right? Why should your kids have any more rights or have you care about them in any way?

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:38 AM

QUOTE (wwinterj @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 01:37)
QUOTE (Official General @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 02:35)
Just don't have any children. You might just one day decide to go one step further than video game realism, because that was not 'real' enough for you.

That's cute and also going completely off topic. Trolling and trying to get this topic locked at this point.

Bro, just saying dontgetit.gif

Not so 'fun' now is it ?

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:41 AM

QUOTE (wwinterj @ Thursday, Jun 27 2013, 17:32)
QUOTE (Official General @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 02:24)
-snip-

Me: Different aged pedestrians will add more realism to the game.

Tweedledum and Tweedledee: OMG!!! you want to kill children! You sick bastard you need locking up! You clearly don't have kids yourself, I know everything about you and you don't know anything about GTA!!!!!

The last few pages in short. monocle.gif

Yeah. I don't know what I was expecting starting this really, but it's been more fun than it could have been. I was hoping the argument had evolved, but not yet.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:47 AM

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People need to get the hell over it and stop being such sissies. It's a game. So what if there are children in the game that can be killed the same as the adults. It's a f**king game. There is no correlation to the real world.

I say put the children in so I can shoot them, run them over, light them on fire, and blow them up! At the end of the day, it's just a game. Who cares. It's entertainment.

Killing an NPC child is no different than killing an NPC adult. It is what it is. A fantasy. A game. There is nothing wrong, morally or otherwise, with doing it.

It's the assholes who can't differentiate.

This.

We just gotta accept the fact that brainless assholes are running our countries and that, no matter what you say or how you prove it, there will always be some political backlash related to those things. Just look at Australia. Their leaders still think that the likes of Saints Row are extremely dangerous to the poor adults.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:48 AM Edited by wwinterj, 28 June 2013 - 01:53 AM.

QUOTE (Gigabomber @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 02:41)
Yeah. I don't know what I was expecting starting this really, but it's been more fun than it could have been. I was hoping the argument had evolved, but not yet.

Nothing wrong with the discussion. Unfortunately some folk have a issue with respecting other peoples opinions and for some reason get outraged by it and resort to childish comments. It's to be expected on this forum and the internet in general I guess.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:52 AM

I do think that adding in the animal life and "ecosystem" really brings it a lot closer to realism, and at some point in the distant future, not having some form of children in games is going to be a glaring omission unless there is some massive political bill banning all children from games. It can't be ignored forever, can it.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:52 AM

So some people have a problem having kids in GTA but don´t have a problem murdering other peds and animals?

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:53 AM Edited by wwinterj, 28 June 2013 - 01:56 AM.

QUOTE (Gigabomber @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 02:52)
I do think that adding in the animal life and "ecosystem" really brings it a lot closer to realism, and, at some point in the distant future, not having some form of children in games is going to be a glaring omission unless there is some massive political bill banning all children from games. It can't be ignored forever, can it.

I see where you're coming from. Before Animals were is games people would laugh you out of a topic for suggesting such a thing and now we have Animals in quite a few games including GTA. The world is slowly growing up so maybe one day we will see different aged pedestrians in GTA. i just wouldn't expect it anytime soon.


QUOTE (Krist075 Friday @ Jun 28 2013, 02:52)
So some people have a problem having kids in GTA but don´t have a problem murdering other peds and animals?


Apparently so. monocle.gif

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:56 AM

QUOTE (wwinterj @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 01:53)
The world is slowly growing up so maybe one day we will see kids in GTA.

And then you will finally be able to fulfill your depraved, twisted and bloodthirsty urges and desires to murder children in video games.

That long wait to achieve your nirvana will have arrived. Enjoy until your hearts content.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:57 AM

QUOTE (Tobias_Rieper @ Thursday, Jun 27 2013, 22:12)
Rockstar have stated more than once "No children. Ever."

yes they have but no one on these forums seems to believe anything rockstar says! you are correct though. it wont ever happen. especially after the school shootings that have taken place the last few years

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:59 AM

QUOTE (wwinterj @ Thursday, Jun 27 2013, 17:53)
I see where you're coming from. Before Animals were is games people would laugh you out of a topic for suggesting such a thing and now we have Animals in quite a few games including GTA. The world is slowly growing up so maybe one day we will see kids in GTA.

I hadn't played the GTAs for a while, so I went back and am playing San Andreas. Just got to the mission in which you follow Millie from the Casino, hide your identity with the gimp suit, follow her to her home, murder her lover, take the sex toy he had, and then have sex with her (premeditated rape according to numerous court cases). Then you mislead her and have the option of outright murder her all for a favor to a mob boss to eliminate the competition.

To argue that I can't drive over a kid with a car after playing through this mission is...amusing.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 02:12 AM

QUOTE (Gigabomber @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 02:59)
To argue that I can't drive over a kid with a car after playing through this mission is...amusing.

Given the context it can add to the story and gameplay. Although involving a teen(14 years old) games like The Last of Us prove this and have showed me games are slowly growing up.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 02:14 AM Edited by Official General, 28 June 2013 - 02:17 AM.

QUOTE (Gigabomber @ Friday, Jun 28 2013, 01:59)
To argue that I can't drive over a kid with a car after playing through this mission is...amusing.

Like I said to your pal earlier, you better not have children. You might one day wanna be "amused" and feel that GTA was not real enough enough to "amuse" you.

Anyway to all you weirdos fantasizing about killing kids in GTA - it's not gonna happen, go and make your own game if you want it so bad. And don't have kids or go near kids either. Just to be on the safe side.

Goodnight.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 02:28 AM

QUOTE (Official General @ Thursday, Jun 27 2013, 18:14)
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To argue that I can't drive over a kid with a car after playing through this mission is...amusing.

Like I said to your pal earlier, you better not have children. You might one day wanna be "amused" and feel that GTA was not real enough enough to "amuse" you.

Anyway to all you weirdos fantasizing about killing kids in GTA - it's not gonna happen, go and make your own game if you want it so bad. And don't have kids or go near kids either. Just to be on the safe side.

Goodnight.

Well honestly, that is the summary I was hoping to see: If you want to see kids in the game to make it more realistic for ANY reason, you are a potential pedophile/child murderer in real life and you should be careful.

Sage Advice.

NOTE: I did like to see Link prancing around in those sexy tights holding that phallic sword in Ocarina of Time, so you're spot on.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 02:30 AM

I hope see a lot of teens in GTA V

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 02:31 AM

I feel like it would add nothing to gameplay to be honest.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 02:32 AM

You know I bet the very same folk said no Animals in GTA ever and now look we have Animals in GTA. monocle.gif

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 02:32 AM

QUOTE (Gigabomber @ Thursday, Jun 27 2013, 19:59)
QUOTE (wwinterj @ Thursday, Jun 27 2013, 17:53)
I see where you're coming from. Before Animals were is games people would laugh you out of a topic for suggesting such a thing and now we have Animals in quite a few games including GTA. The world is slowly growing up so maybe one day we will see kids in GTA.

I hadn't played the GTAs for a while, so I went back and am playing San Andreas. Just got to the mission in which you follow Millie from the Casino, hide your identity with the gimp suit, follow her to her home, murder her lover, take the sex toy he had, and then have sex with her (premeditated rape according to numerous court cases). Then you mislead her and have the option of outright murder her all for a favor to a mob boss to eliminate the competition.

To argue that I can't drive over a kid with a car after playing through this mission is...amusing.

Even inmates convicted of all those crimes would still find a problem with a child killer and probably rape/kill them in prison.

Maybe someone could go to the Pen, interview some murderers and ask them why it is commonplace for them to hate/rape/kill those that have committed crimes against children. Certainly, if they see a problem with it, it must be a pretty special case.

It would, at least, be interesting to see their take on it biggrin.gif

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 02:34 AM

Kids are a mess out in public too. messin missions up. crying and playin tag or what do kids do nowadays? plankin

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:41 AM

I do believe in opinions but this thread is poison for this series. There were so many before this one. It's something that should never be put into this game or any of the gta's.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:49 AM

Rockstar could just do what they did with L.A. Noire and just inlcude them in cutscenes. Ex. Open a door to a home in a cutscene and you see kids playing inside, but they don't appear in the in-game world.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 04:02 AM

Id rather leave them out so it doesn't get banned in Australia.




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