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Posted 26 June 2013 - 12:28 AM

QUOTE (Raavi @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 17:15)
So the trial and subsequent verdict is basically futile.

we already know that criminal law isn't applied to the rich / powerful the same way it's applied to the rest of us.

unless there is actual, undeniable, video evidence of the crime then powerful people can literally get away with murder.
money and connections = get-out-of-jail-free card.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:51 AM

QUOTE (sivispacem @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 20:24)
QUOTE (Stephan123 @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 17:58)
I hope Europe finds justice and brings him into jail.

So, what's the criminal sanction for ECB-sponsored state financing these days? Oh, that's right, it isn't a criminal offence.

What's wrong about it? That he gives money to de facto bankrupt states and banks, for which all Euro-states have to be liable for. He has no democratic legitimation to do so.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 08:28 AM

QUOTE (Leblanc @ Wednesday, Jun 26 2013, 00:12)
QUOTE (Distrom @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 13:21)
About time, f*ckig scumbag.

One down, there are still plenty political criminals in Venezuela that have to jail.. Starting up with Henrique Capriles

Outta curiosity, why? Maduro is like a dictator, he just used populism and the death of Hugo Chavez to reach the power and he can't stop bullsh*ting.

Anyway, all around the world there are too many politicians that should be in jail...

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 08:35 AM

QUOTE (Stephan123 @ Wednesday, Jun 26 2013, 07:51)
QUOTE (sivispacem @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 20:24)
QUOTE (Stephan123 @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 17:58)
I hope Europe finds justice and brings him into jail.

So, what's the criminal sanction for ECB-sponsored state financing these days? Oh, that's right, it isn't a criminal offence.

What's wrong about it? That he gives money to de facto bankrupt states and banks, for which all Euro-states have to be liable for. He has no democratic legitimation to do so.

Those eurostates you refer to would be in a much worse spot if it weren't for the ECB- and that includes Germany.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:08 AM Edited by Stephan123, 26 June 2013 - 09:13 AM.

QUOTE (Zugzwang @ Wednesday, Jun 26 2013, 09:35)
QUOTE (Stephan123 @ Wednesday, Jun 26 2013, 07:51)
QUOTE (sivispacem @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 20:24)
QUOTE (Stephan123 @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 17:58)
I hope Europe finds justice and brings him into jail.

So, what's the criminal sanction for ECB-sponsored state financing these days? Oh, that's right, it isn't a criminal offence.

What's wrong about it? That he gives money to de facto bankrupt states and banks, for which all Euro-states have to be liable for. He has no democratic legitimation to do so.

Those eurostates you refer to would be in a much worse spot if it weren't for the ECB- and that includes Germany.

Yes of course, and this is the point where everyone must see, that this sick system would already be dead, if everyone would respect the laws.

But if you refer to the simple people and the mid size companies, it didn't save them. The situation is worse than ever before.

If one would break up the € and give every country a decent debt cut at banks, hedge-funds and private investors costs, every single country would be better of, and the "real" economy of these countries would be in a better shape.

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#36

Posted 26 June 2013 - 10:01 AM

QUOTE (Stephan123 @ Wednesday, Jun 26 2013, 08:51)
QUOTE (sivispacem @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 20:24)
QUOTE (Stephan123 @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 17:58)
I hope Europe finds justice and brings him into jail.

So, what's the criminal sanction for ECB-sponsored state financing these days? Oh, that's right, it isn't a criminal offence.

What's wrong about it? That he gives money to de facto bankrupt states and banks, for which all Euro-states have to be liable for. He has no democratic legitimation to do so.

I hear a lot of complaining and no explanation of how he broke the law, and if so what sanctions are applicable. You can't be labelled a criminal if you don't actually break the law.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:23 AM

QUOTE (sivispacem @ Wednesday, Jun 26 2013, 11:01)
QUOTE (Stephan123 @ Wednesday, Jun 26 2013, 08:51)
QUOTE (sivispacem @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 20:24)
QUOTE (Stephan123 @ Tuesday, Jun 25 2013, 17:58)
I hope Europe finds justice and brings him into jail.

So, what's the criminal sanction for ECB-sponsored state financing these days? Oh, that's right, it isn't a criminal offence.

What's wrong about it? That he gives money to de facto bankrupt states and banks, for which all Euro-states have to be liable for. He has no democratic legitimation to do so.

I hear a lot of complaining and no explanation of how he broke the law, and if so what sanctions are applicable. You can't be labelled a criminal if you don't actually break the law.

A week ago there was a trial at the Federal Constitutional Court of Germany. The judges will decide if this was compatible with our constitution, and if Germany has to draw consequences out of it (leaving the Euro), or it hey direct the case to the European Court of Justice, which can directly judge on him. In my eyes he is a criminal of the worst kind. And what he did is worse than having sex with a sixteen year old girl.




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